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Is recruiting an art or a science? It really doesn't matter because fans want to see positive results. We've had that with basketball for years, but Calipari has taken recruiting to another level. So has Mark Stoops and his staff with our football recruiting. Recruiting at Kentucky for football is reaching heights that no one could have imagined. As you will see below, there's still plenty of room for improvement. Can he take us even higher?
We tend to talk a lot about our recruiting and our recruits, and we believe that Kentucky has one of the best in Vince Marrow. The job he's done in Ohio is, for Kentucky fans, astonishing. He is one of the best, but he only ranks 28th, according to 247 Sports.
247 Sports (247) is the only recruiting service that attempts to rate the recruiters, which is just one of the things I do like about the,. I also like their profiles, the fact that they provide a timeline for each recruit, and the way they show more offers than the other services. Unfortunately, I do not like their evaluations of players, their star ratings or their rankings for both the players and teams. Setting the dislikes aside, I want to give you what I've found in their recruiter rankings.
There are 513 recruiters listed who have bagged at least one recruit. Actually, there are more if you add in the ties, but I am just too lazy to count them. Vince Marrow's position at 28th puts him in the top 5.8% of 247's top 30, and you will see that Kentucky is the only school represented as a conference cellar dweller. Auburn, Kentucky and Tennessee are the only schools in the list that suffered through losing records last year. All three have new coaching staffs.
Here's 247'stop 30:
Recruiter Rankings |
Top 30 |
7/22/2013 |
Name |
School |
Rank |
Dameyune Craig |
Auburn |
1 |
Bryan McClendon |
Georgia |
2 |
Jeremy Pruitt |
Florida St. |
3 |
Mike Vrabil |
Ohio St. |
4 |
David Beaty |
Texas A&M |
5 |
Travaris Robinson |
Florida |
6 |
Chip West |
Virginia |
7 |
Kirby Smart |
Alabama |
8 |
Jerry Montgomery |
Oklahoma |
9 |
Clarence McKinney |
Texas A&M |
10 |
Tommy Thigpin |
Tennessee |
11 |
James Coley |
Miami |
12 |
Mike Elston |
Notre Dame |
13 |
Michael Barrow |
Miami |
14 |
Bob Diaco |
Notre Dame |
15 |
John Lilly |
Georgia |
16 |
Shame Beamer |
Virginia Tech |
17 |
Derrick Nix |
Ole Miss |
18 |
Tim Brewster |
Florida St. |
19 |
Ben Strickland |
Wisconsin |
20 |
Frank Wilson |
LSU |
21 |
Mike Sanford, Jr |
Stanford |
22 |
Robert Gillespie |
Tennessee |
23 |
Mike Bobo |
Georgia |
24 |
Kerry Coombs |
Ohio St. |
25 |
Reese Morgan |
Iowa |
26 |
Jeff Scott |
Clemson |
27 |
Vince Marrow |
Kentucky |
28 |
Matt MacPherson |
Northwestern |
29 |
Darrell Wyatt |
Texas |
30 |
You can see the complete rankings at 247 Sports.
Here’s the rankings for each UK coach (notice I said EACH):
# 28 – Vince Marrow
#52 – Neal Brown
#86 – Chad Scott
# 98 – Bradley Dale Paveto
# 106 - D.J. Eliot
#125 – Tommy Mainard
#141 – Jimmy Brumbaugh
#212 – Derrick Ansley
#459 – John Schlarman
All nine coaches have brought in at least one recruit. If you’ll recall, we had some coaches last year who simply didn’t and wouldn’t recruit. Rick Minter is the first who comes to mind. David Turner, Pat Washington and Mike Summers are the only coaches from last year who have one or more commitments. Turner, the DL coach at Mississippi State, is ranked #123 and has 3 commitments for the Bulldogs. Washington is ranked #139 with 5 commitments for Missouri and Summers ranks #288 with two commitments for Southern Cal. Joker Phillips has yet to get a commitment, so he’s not included in the 513. Maybe even more amazing is the fact that Florida has yet to get a commitment from a wide receiver either before or after Joker was hired as the wide receivers coach. Maybe wide receivers aren’t a priority for Florida this year.
Remember Tee Martin, who UK fans believed was a great recruiter? Not a member of the club of 513. I had to verify in the USC 2013 Media Guide that he’s still on the staff at USC. Yep, there he is on page 17. He’s still the Trojan’s WR coach. I remember the UK fan sadness when he left for USC. We thought we had lost something. Just for what it’s worth, Ed Orgeron ranks as #85 with 4 recruits. He’s USC’s recruiting coordinator, assistant head coach and the defensive line coach and is making $1.2 million per year.
So, how does the UK staff stack up in the SEC? I have you covered on that as well. (click here for the complete SEC rankings)
Recruiter Rankings |
Top 30 SEC |
7/22/2013 |
Name |
School |
Rank |
Dameyune Craig |
Auburn |
1 |
Bryan McClendon |
Georgia |
2 |
David Beaty |
Texas A&M |
3 |
Travaris Robinson |
Florida |
4 |
Kirby Smart |
Alabama |
5 |
Clarence McKinney |
Texas A&M |
6 |
Tommy Thigpin |
Tennessee |
7 |
John Lilly |
Georgia |
8 |
Derrick Nix |
Ole Miss |
9 |
Frank Wilson |
LSU |
10 |
Robert Gillespie |
Tennessee |
11 |
Mike Bobo |
Georgia |
12 |
Vince Marrow |
Kentucky |
13 |
Matt Luke |
Ole Miss |
14 |
Doug Nussmier |
Alabama |
15 |
Mark Elder |
Tennessee |
16 |
Chris Wilson |
Georgia |
17 |
Jeff Banks |
Texas A&M |
18 |
Corey Raymond |
LSU |
19 |
Billy Napier |
Alabama |
20 |
Ricky Rahne |
Vanderbilt |
21 |
Brent Pease |
Florida |
22 |
Zach Azzani |
Tennessee |
23 |
Neal Brown |
Kentucky |
24 |
Sean Spencer |
Vanderbilt |
25 |
Shawn Elliott |
South Carolina |
26 |
Tony Hughes |
Mississippi St |
27 |
Greg Brown |
Alabama |
28 |
B.J. Anderson |
Texas A&M |
29 |
Brick Haley |
LSU |
30 |
There are 116 coaches listed in the SEC who have obtained commitments. Here's the Kentucky staff's rankings in the SEC.
#13 - Vince Marrow
#24 - Neal Brown
#34 - Chad Scott
# 39 - Bradley Dale Paveto
# 42 - D.J. Eliot
#49 - Tommy Mainard
#54 - Jimmy Brumbaugh
#74 - Derrick Ansley
#111 - John Schlarman
That's not too shabby. The fact that all nine coaches are actually working to bring in commitments is impressive. I'm willing to bet this is the first staff to hit the trail this hard in, like, forever.
As I said earlier, I don't like the way 247 rates and ranks players. The 247 recruiting rankings are based on those player ratings and rankings. In a future article (It will take time), I plan to convert the 247recruiting rankings to rankings based on Rivals and Rank By Offers. I am positive we'll see different results. Just as a reminder, you can see a snapshot of the differences in player ratings here.
If you take a serious look at these rankings, you will see some implications for the future. I think Missouri, Arkansas, and Mississippi State are in trouble. I've already shown in a previous article that Florida is on a slight decline since Urban Meyer left. Tennessee, Kentucky, Ole Miss and Vanderbilt are on the rise, and Alabama, Georgia, Texas A&M, and LSU are maintaining their positions as SEC powerhouses. The jury is still out for Auburn and South Carolina. Take a look at the 247 team rankings and see if you agree. You can also look at a comparison snapshot at Rank BY Offers.