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I want to believe you know what you're doing. I really do.

I am not a respected sports columnist. Dick Weiss is a respected sports columnist. He gets paid to know sports; I get paid for something else entirely. I'm well aware of my place, who I am, and that I don't know everything about sports.

But I can't be the only person who feels like Mr. Weiss's latest column is just... off. Some of his remarks seem on the mark. Other remarks seem to be focused on old or missing data. And those of us who've been so (obsessively!) focused on the Wildcats this year, it doesn't seem like Mr. Weiss is talking about our current Wildcats at all.

After the jump, I break down what seems wrong with his column. (Bring a lunch; its a novella!)

Star-divide

Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?

Part of the problem, according to Mr. Weiss, is that Billy succeeded in the small quiet college basketball venues. But now at Kentucky, he's barely treading water in a sea of blue. (Go on, groan.) Mr. Weiss cites some examples of other small-time coaches who flamed out on the big basketball stage:

He certainly seemed happier in College Station, where Big 12 football is always the big news and basketball is a pleasant diversion until the spring game. We're still not sure Gillispie understands or apprecates the magnitude of the position at UK. ...

He's not the first coach to leap before he has looked and put himself in unfriendly, unfamiliar waters. Gary Waters, a Midwesterner in every sense of the word who was successful at Kent State, did not have the expected success at Rutgers. Waters is now back in the Midwest at Cleveland State, where his team is in the upper echelon of the Horizon Conference.

Bob Hill was more disastrous in his run at Fordham, having only coached in the NBA. He never realized the league did not have an expansion franchise in the Bronx.

...

We don't know what went on at outposts like UTEP and A&M, where Gillispie performed miracles away from prying eyes.

("Gillispie understands or apprecates the magnitude of the position at UK" is a direct cut-and-paste from the current article [here's a screen grab]. Whoever is doing copy editing at FoxSports.com needs to start right-clicking the red underlined words. I point this out for humor's sake, not in the standard "OMG HE CAN"T SPELL HE B DUM!!!!" Internet Flame Attack. I don't dare judge; when I type, I have more red lines than a peppermint candy.)

Yeah, some small-time coaches go big and flame out. Some don't. Off the top of my head, I present a counter-example in Ben Howland. After leading tiny Northern Arizona University to the NCAA 1st round, he was hired away by Pittsburgh. Considering Pittsburgh's lack of basketball pedigree (one Final 4 appearance) compared to its football history (4 consensus championship titles), I consider it comparable but not equal to Texas A&M's situation. Howland won several Big East Championships and got Pittsburgh to the NCAA Sweet 16 twice before moving to the big time national program of UCLA. Under the big-program pressure, he has done very well, recruiting top talent and getting to the NCAA Final 4 in back-to-back seasons.

We don't know what went on at outposts like NAU and Pittsburgh, where Howland performed miracles away from prying eyes. Whatever he did translated at UCLA as well. Howland didn't have a good time his first year at UCLA either, going 11-17.

Regardless of my counter-example, I say the that the data on Coach Gillispie is currently inconclusive. It will take time for Gillispie to set up his system. Away from prying eyes, Gillispie went 6-24 his first year at UTEP. If Kentucky only had 6 wins this year, we'd be hiding in the shadows. (Go on, groan again. That one was a stretch.)

(Howland is probably not the best example of someone who succeeded in a small-time and a big-time program. I'll openly admit that comparing Pittsburgh's athletic situation to Texas A&M's is probably faulty. But I bet there are coaches who fit the standard made by Mr. Weiss in the column. Since I'm lazy, I'll use my professor voice to say, "it stands as an exercise to the reader.")

Do You Like Billy? Circle Y or N

Though painting in broad strokes, I think Weiss gives a good overview about us "obsessive" Wildcat Basketball fans. But even here, his perceptions of the relationship between Coach Gillispie and the fanbase is not quite right:

Kentucky fans want their coach to be clean, charismatic, energetic and somewhat scientific. They want their coach to be all things to all people at all times. He must be as reverent about tradition as a boy in Cooperstown, as knowledgable as John Wooden and as charismatic as Brother Jimmy or Elmer Gantry. They want pedigree, not the Marlboro man. They perceive their program to be the finest and they want to see the finest.

Unlike "Hoosiers,'' there is no need to reinvent the wheel at this storied SEC program. You just manage the talent, you don't practice two hours on game day, don't start walk-ons, don't distance yourself from the powerful and the most passionate fans in the country and don't tell the Big Blue nation this is the way we did it at Texas A&M.

There is an ongoing "feeling out" period between coach and fanbase. Billy's methods are new to us, and its taking us while to understand why he does what he does. Remember when Billy said he doesn't like running the zone? It was like telling some of us that the ball was a cube. But I don't think there is any sort of divide between the all-knowing-about-basketball fanbase of UK and its coach. At least, not the kind of divide implied by Weiss' "this is the way we did it at Texas A&M" statement. If there was, there would be a louder backlash against Coach Gillispie than there is currently.

There are always going to be those fans who can LAZ-E-BOY coach better than the Coach. I remember a call-in show with Pitino back in 1996. The caller slammed Pitino for allowing Scott Padgett to play so many minutes, because Padgett didn't act like he wanted to play. I don't remember the particular game, but I do remember Kentucky won by over 20 points. Kentucky fans being a little crazy about basketball is to be expected.

I do think Weiss is right that Gillispie didn't expect the public expectations of the job to be so concentrated. The impression I have of Billy is that he does not like working the media. Even to this day, Billy looks uncomfortable in front of a camera, especially on his own weekly show. He sits very rigid, flashes that nervous smile when he speaks, and his face deadpans when Rob Bromley is speaking. If he's really having fun, he's not communicating that in non-verbal ways on the show. He may grow more comfortable in the media, but I think it would be unfair to ask him to be a Grand Marshall like Pitino.

So we may not get Brother Jimmy or Elmer Gantry from Coach. But he has not distanced himself from the fanbase as Weiss asserts. As far as I know, he hasn't canceled a public appearance, stopped his radio and TV shows, or denied a post-game press interview. When confronting the fanbase directly on his radio show directly after the Vandy blowout, he didn't dodge questions or double-speak. He answered each question politely, disagreeing with some of the remarks made by the callers. (When one caller asked him to be more like Coach Bobby Knight, then asked Billy to play more zone defense, Billy playfully feigned confusion because Coach Knight never played zone D.)

I'm fine with Billy being Billy, because Billy is a nice guy. Although if Billy took us dancing this year, I'm sure everybody would be much happier with him. (I don't mean this kind of dancing.)

When will then be now? Soon.

Look, I don't blame Mr. Weiss for thinking the same team that showed up in Nashville is the same team that lost to Gardner-Webb, Houston, etc. And Mr. Weiss clearly notes that there has been a change in the middle of a season:

To be fair, Gillispie didn't inherit championship material. He privately told friends that 6-8 freshman Patrick Patterson -- one of the 10 best players in his class nationally -- is the only player who could have started for him at A&M. And we believe it. Kentucky has talented but selfish guards and little, if any, frontcourt depth. But Gillispie is not the first person to inherit a less-than-stocked shelf here. A coach worthy of a $2 million salary should be capable of doing more with less the way Pitino did when he arrived in the quagmire of a huge scandal.

To Gillispie's credit, the 'Cats appeared to be making progress, beating Vanderbilt and Tennessee at Rupp and playing Florida to overtime in a road loss. They had won five straight, played better defense, and straightened out their rotation before Vandy sent them spiraling back to earth.

But before we went spiraling down to earth, what did Billy change? Those "selfish guards" stick out. Anybody who has been following the Wildcats closely have seen the great change in our senior guards. Ramel Bradley especially deserves praise for working so hard to become Billy's lead guard. During the Auburn game, it was clear that the lead guard position is tough to replace, as Michael Porter, Derrick Jasper and Joe Crawford took turns trying to run it.

Speaking of Joe, there has been a remarkable improvement in his scoring decisions. The Old Joe that would pound the ball outside the circle then drive wildly into the lane was replaced with a New Joe that played more within the system and began passing on the drive. Old Joe showed up in Nashville -- trying to carry the Wildcats on his shoulders, like last year -- so I don't blame Weiss for thinking that he hasn't changed. But I can testify that Joe and Ramel have been born again hard.

But Weiss missed the biggest factors of this season -- the injuries and youth. We all know what a major difference Derrick Jasper makes in our team. He adds better on-ball defensive pressure, rebounding and ball-handling experience, and he's still rusty. Additionally, there has been remarkable improvement in Ramon Harris and Perry Stevenson since the beginning of the year.

Given that we have (by Mr. Weiss' passed-on assessment) only one player worthy of starting for Billy, I'd say that we'd had no business beating Tennessee anywhere, Vandy (at Rupp), or most of the other SEC games we've won. Sounds like Gillspie is earning that $2 million paycheck this year.

As it is, I think Billy and the Big Blue Nation are ready to make the Vandy game -- and that old struggling team -- the distant past. Prepare to Fast-Forward!

Gee, Fake Gimel, care to add anything else to make this novella sized?

I'll openly admit I may be drinking the Big Billy Blue Kool-Aid. The last 9 games have shown a different breed of Wildcat; a breed strong enough to perform without any further relapses & win games we're not supposed to win. No games more important than the 3 or 4 games in the Georgia Dome.

But I don't think I'm completely off my rocker here. Just because Coach Gillispie came from Texas A&M doesn't mean his methods won't work at Kentucky. Just because there's been an adjustment period between coach, players and fans doesn't mean we've turned against the coach. Just because our team looks like the old hapless snake-bitten Wildcats at Vandy doesn't mean the previous 8 games by the new hard-working Wildcats are completely discounted.

Maybe Mr. Weiss knows something I don't. I'm not a respected sports columnist. But Mr. Weiss's column just doesn't seem like he's writing about the same Wildcats I've seen. And that's a shame. I think he'd like the Wildcats that I've seen. I want to believe in them. I really do.

Update [2008-2-17 0:16:15 by TheFakeGimelMartinez]: My friends at LogeLevel.com made a really funny photoshop. You have to see it.

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I'm Not A Fan Of Dick Weiss
He touts Clark Francis of HoopScoop as the #1 recruiting expert.

He lost me right there.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 16, 2008 6:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Call in show
I often forget what days the call in show is on, but its on during my drive home in the evenings so I did catch it last week.  There were some great moments in there like the one Tru mentioned about the Bobby Knight caller.  I also liked Billy's response when the caller said "I'll hang up and listen to your answer" and he said "Answer?  Was there a question in there?  I thought it was just a comment."  I literally laughed out loud at that because its the way I feel about 78.2% of all calls to the coach's show.  One of my favorites from earlier in the year was the fan from North Carolina who wanted to see the team tuck their shirts in while playing because they looked sloppy.

As to the article, I have some mixed feelings.  Like Tru pointed out, there are some legitimate comparisons in there... but there's a lot of hyperbole and exaggeration too.  But I bet if you go back to some of his other recent articles, this one gets more comments and feedback.  And really... isn't that what its all about?

by chirop1 on Feb 16, 2008 9:19 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Just a note
But Tru didn't write this post, Fake Gimel did.  :)

by blueninja on Feb 16, 2008 10:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed.
And what a great job he did, too.

by Truzenzuzex on Feb 16, 2008 10:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Injuries
I didn't read where Mr. Weiss mentioned the severe impact on injuries on UK in 2007-08.

Carter, recovering from shoulder injury.

Harris, broken foot early in the season.

Meeks, injured most of the year.

Jasper, recovering from knee surgery.

Bradley, Crawford, even Patterson were someimes injured for a game or two.

UK is now (finally) healthy up and down the roster.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 16, 2008 9:27 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

"healthy"
Just because they're all "cleared to play," I think I'd stop short of calling our team "healthy!"  

by chirop1 on Feb 16, 2008 9:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This is a ...
fantastic piece that I am extremely proud to have on our blog.

Dick Weiss is a friend of this blog, and he and JL probably bump into each other once in a while.  Dick is a great writer and has kindly linked us a time or two, which always results in a flood of readers.

But as FGM points out, Dick was a little off his game in his latest, at least in my opinion.  Not that he is really dead wrong about much, more that he makes a couple of judgments that seem highly suspect to me.

But whatever the case, this is a great piece, FGM, and reflects exactly the high standards that we try so hard to achieve here at A Sea of Blue.  I shall now pat myself on the back yet again for putting you on the front page.

Outstanding.

by Truzenzuzex on Feb 16, 2008 10:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agree
I could not agree more

by blueninja on Feb 16, 2008 4:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhh, logic.
Anyone else like how he cites the fact that we suffered our worst loss since Pitino's first year as evidence that BG is heading down the path of failure, but then also says 'a coach worthy of a $2 million salary should be capable of doing more with less the way Pitino did when he arrived.'?  Of course - because BG had a loss in his first year here that was almost as bad as Pitino's big loss, he must be destined to being a failure as a coach.  Likewise, if BG was as good of a coach as Pitino the CATS would have never lost a game so badly.
I finally get it!  Circular logic is an acceptable way for a professional writer to support an argument as long as it is being used to criticize UK.  I wonder if Weiss would buy the argument BG is going to be a hall of fame coach because his first season at UK has mirrored Pitino's in many ways.  My guess would be that he would say 'well that kind of thinking just doesn't make any sense at all.'
 

by cdnWildcatfan on Feb 16, 2008 10:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

FGM
Great Post FGM.

I would have to agree that his most recent article is just a little bit off.

I certainly dont see BCG going anywhere after this season. I dont think he's the kind of man is going to look for a way out. Im pretty sure he wants to right the ship abnd prove everyone wrong.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Feb 16, 2008 11:30 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Portents of Doom
All these "portents of doom" articles from the sports press have me wondering if these sports writers have been killed off and replaced by animatrons programmed to write the same article over and over.  Even if not, I suspect these articles are a tactical maneuver more than anything else.  That way, when the Cats are a four seed next year, they can write feel good "back from the brink" articles about how BG overcame the obstacles of this year and how UK fans are fickle bumpkins who now love him.  However, if BG has a bad year next year they can write the "Matt Doherty" article.

BTW, on a more serious note, FGM is an acronym for Female Genital Mutilation commonly used by the international human rights community.  Just thought I'd throw that out there.

by senowen on Feb 16, 2008 11:46 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yuck.
That's OK.  We'll change that around.

:-)

by Truzenzuzex on Feb 16, 2008 12:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Great
I'm a human rights violation.

If you need to go with initials, go FG. You can also use "FGimel", or "dumbass".

The Online Home of the Big Blue Nation...

by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Feb 16, 2008 2:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My Wife Says...
She has copyrighted that last name (D-A) for me.

She'll sell U the copyright if U want to use it...

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 16, 2008 6:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Definately..
some truth in the article that Weiss wrote, at least in regards to the expectations of the BBN fanbase and BCG's "my way or the highway" approach.  There is also a bit of exagerration/speculation that I just don't see happening like Gilispie being happier in college station and him possibly jumping ship to head for ok. st..  The biggest story of the season however was left out entirely.  In case Weiss hadn't noticed, UK has been ravaged by injuries all year long.  As FortyYearCatFan points out, player after player has missed multiple games and that will kill any season for any team.  Strange that he would put out a story with such a glaring omission of facts.

by wldcatsfreak on Feb 16, 2008 12:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Weiss
Great piece FakeGimel.

I too, was a bit perplexed at the Weiss column. I thought he wrote it back in December, tucked it away and forgot about it. Fox then calls, he doesn't feel like writing anything new, so he submits the flawed piece he wrote long ago.

Even using this explanation, Weiss attempting to draw a parallel between Gary Waters and Gillispie is laughable, and yes I laughed.

This type of blather seems to be ubiquitous around the Internet and mainstream media since GW, so I have decided to take a "wait and criticize attitude".

I am patiently waiting for Clyde to do his thing, and when he does (as early as next year?) I and others will flood the offending journalists in-boxes with demands for retractions. It should be fun :)

This is the second piece Weiss has written, that contained questionable content, about UK. I have been a fan of his for many years, but perhaps he has reached the end of the writers line, if there is such a thing.

Perhaps we should all pitch in a ship him a rocking chair.

by Ken Howlett on Feb 16, 2008 12:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nice bounce back.............
After what happened Tuesday night, and with all of the former LSU stars in the house, a very nice way to bounce back.  3 home games in a row coming up...win those 3 and then we can be back on track.  Go Cats!

by Chuck Alexinis on Feb 16, 2008 3:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha!
In case you didn't notice my update, check out what my friend at LogeLevel.com has made.
The Online Home of the Big Blue Nation...

by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Feb 17, 2008 12:19 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Fanbase
I think 90% of the fan base either like Coach G or fully support him.....like any political situation, there will always be a "vocal minority" that will continue to work hard to drag him or the program down......we have to remember that this site and others are just part of the deal......I think our fanbase is passionate and want to win and get back to the Pitino days of winning and winning and winning...we will get there....but you have to rebuild.  Coach G would not be here today if we were fat and happy......time will tell, but I for one feel very good about Coach and what he is trying to instill in this team and program.  I am 41 years old and I have seen a lot in my lifetime with this program. I just know that things can't happen over night.  Patience, patience, patience.

by Chuck Alexinis on Feb 17, 2008 12:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Overnight
Rupp won from Day 1 and won SEC / Helms Trophy in his 3rd year. (No NCAA or NIT then)

Hall won SEC and made Elite 8 his 1st year.

Sutton won SEC, SECT, and made Elite 8 his 1st year.

Pitino had best SEC record his 2nd year and won SECT / made Elite 8 his 3rd year.

Tubby won SEC, SECT, and NCAA his 1st year.

UK coaches historically win BIG right away or pretty close to it.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 17, 2008 2:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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