The Roundabout: A few observations
There are several interesting stories that came across my feed reader in the last day or so which I think deserve a bit more commentary and feedback from the Big Blue Nation.
The first is this nugget in today's Courier-Journal Basketball Notebook about Billy Gillispie's recruiting ethics. Gillispie says that he doesn't recruit committed players who have not opened their recruitment back up:
"I don't recruit committed players," he said. "I haven't recruited committed players."
It's a significant point at UK. Rumors have swirled all season around Scotty Hopson, the University Heights star who's committed to Mississippi State but hasn't signed with the Bulldogs.
So what this means, dear reader, is that Gillispie considers Hopson off limits, and if he is to be taken at his word (and I do), he is not recruiting him, and unless he declares his recruitment reopened, he won't recruit him. As far as I know, Hopson has made several very ambiguous statements about his recruitment, but has never officially reopened the recruiting process.
I wonder if they guy in the coke-stained white suit down here in my home town plays the recruiting game by the same rules?

While we are on the subject of the Kentucky basketball coach, I heard on his post-game comments that he blamed himself for the Cats' tentative play on offense yesterday. Larry Vaught at the Danville Advocate-Messenger reports further:
"The worst thing that happened today was that I was too hard on our guys because I made them play a little bit tentative today because of the importance of the game," said Gillispie after the game. "I think they made some mistakes because of my attitude and I told them that.
"Hopefully, I won't make the same mistake, but I might. I think I got them to play too tentative because of the magnitude of the game, in my opinion."

Matt Jones is reporting on an interaction between Ramel Bradley and Jerry Tiption yesterday. Tipton asked Bradley why he no longer made the "Dynasty" triangle sign he was so famous for last year, and Bradley said it was because he essentially thought it was too self-focused and not team-focused. I was never a big fan of that whole thing and was glad to see it stop, and just assumed it was Ramel deciding it was either no longer necessary or he had become bored with it. His answer indicates he stopped making the "Dynasty" sign for selfless reasons -- yet another sign that Ramel Bradley has matured into a true leader. Selfless acts, even insignificant-looking but highly personal ones like this are a hallmark of leadership, and Ramel is showing it in spades. Good for him.

Finally, there is this article by John Clay in the Lexington Herald-Leader. John is concerned about how physical basketball has become, particularly in the area of "hard" fouls, like the one given by Georgia's Dave Bliss last week that resulted in a concussion and cut chin for Ramel Bradley:
Dennis Felton saw nothing wrong with it. "A high-speed collision," said the Georgia coach this week.
Billy Gillispie saw nothing wrong with it. "I think it's part of basketball," said the Kentucky coach.
Gerald Boudreaux saw nothing wrong with it. "It was a tough play," the SEC's director of officials said this week. "Unfortunately in the game of basketball, there are a lot of tough plays."
Here's what's wrong with it: Somebody's going to get hurt.
I hear players and coaches both rejecting this perception that the contact is too much, but quite frankly, I must respectfully disagree with them. I know kids today play a very physical style of basketball, but we needn't outlaw all contact -- merely contact of the excessive nature that happens on breakaways and attempts to stop layups. The NBA has done a better job at policing this type of contact than the NCAA has, and that is surprising and disappointing.
The SEC and NCAA need to stop this hard contact. John Clay is right -- somebody is going to get badly hurt. Why must we wait for that to happen before taking action?
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I agree the NBA refs are to "Technical happy." I'm not talking about technical fouls.
I am not talking about "a little contact," I am talking about excessive contact that could result in injury. Basketball is not supposed to be a sport where deliberate contact designed to stop a score is allowed. Incidental contact is certainly necessary and allowed, but we are talking primarily about actions that are already fouls, not contact incident to a play.
I don't think "intent to harm" is a reasonable standard for judging contact intentional. If the foul was committed with excessive contact, "intent" is irrelevant. The intent to stop the play at the cost of fouling is always there. If excessive contact occurs, there should be an additional penalty whether you call it "intentional" or "flagrant" or "reckless" or whatever.
In my opinion, Bliss' efforts to stop Bradley were reckless and dangerous. I have no doubt he intended to go for the ball, but the act was committed without regard for the consequences, the very definition of reckless. Reckless contact should always be penalized more severely, in my opinion, as should excessive contact, i.e. a foul that was deliberately harder in order to prevent the possibility of a basket.
davw83...
by wldcatsfreak on Feb 11, 2008 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Ramel's foul
by spork on Feb 10, 2008 1:31 PM EST reply actions
Why wouldn't BCG recruit Hopson
by BeatUL on Feb 10, 2008 2:54 PM EST reply actions
Actually the article says he would ...
"Speculation has been that UK is recruiting Hopson. Gillispie can't comment on unsigned prospects. But speaking generally, the UK coach said he has recruited players who committed to a school, then reopened their recruitment, but said he would not pursue a player who had not taken that step."
So BCG might surely be recruiting Hopson. It does not mean that Hopson is off limits at all.
by BeatUL on Feb 10, 2008 3:00 PM EST reply actions
Hopson
He has been quoted that he remains committed to Miss St.
by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 10, 2008 3:27 PM EST reply actions
I am not sure that is correct..
by BeatUL on Feb 10, 2008 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Lately I Don't Know
by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 10, 2008 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
I am quite sure that is correct ...
Here is a recent review of the status. He has never decommitted from MSU, but he has said he may look around some more before signing with them.
That isn't a decommitment, and it is obvious to me that was just the situation Gillispie is talking about. Who knows, perhaps the comment itself will prompt Hopson to officially change his status. And perhaps not.
UK Has 4 (Or 5) Good Ones At 2 And 3 Spots
Hopson plays 2 or 3 spot, too.
by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 10, 2008 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
From Rivals in December:
"I'm just weighing my options," said Hopson. "Signing is a big decision, and I want to make sure I make the right decision.
by BeatUL on Feb 10, 2008 3:33 PM EST reply actions
Hoopmasters FWIW Said...
by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 10, 2008 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Miss St
by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 10, 2008 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
well we dont know that..
by BeatUL on Feb 10, 2008 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
Van Coleman Reported It
by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 10, 2008 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Yet Factual
by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 10, 2008 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Tru's Thoughts
I think Gillispie is ethically doing the right thing by not recruiting athletes who have already verballed.
It's funny that in football there apparently are no such ethical restrictions placed on coaches regarding the recruitment of verballed athletes. It's commonplace, as evidenced by UK losing Bohannon in the 11th hour to UT, due to a recruiting push by Tennessee. UT also made a push for Cobb, and Mason, both from Tennessee.
Reading the postgame comments last night after the game at ukathletics.com, I was quite surprised that Clyde took responsibility for the "offensive woes" of UK yesterday. It is rare indeed for a coach to reveal such things to the media.
Bradley's comments were very telling also. He stated that coach was very "tense", he went on to say that Gillispie said the game would be tight, and that "coach is always right". This is at least the third time this year that Bradley has uttered those words. It is very obvious, especially over the last seveal weeks, that Bradley holds Gillsipe in very high esteem. That can only bee good, for the present, and the future.
I thought Clay's article was on the money. I certainly am not against contact, but contacting an opponent while he is in the air, as Bliss did to Bradley, is very dangerous, and should be treated as such by the flunky officials. (Although, I do think there was a bit of Hollywood in Bradleys fall)
Hope you're feeling better Tru.
But BCG said
by BeatUL on Feb 10, 2008 4:08 PM EST reply actions
Hopson has NOT reopened....
by Chuck Alexinis on Feb 10, 2008 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
Well, maybe Pearl, Pitino, and many others..
No the end of the story..
He is back out on the market. No doubt about it,
by BeatUL on Feb 10, 2008 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
Never Said That
by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 10, 2008 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Wrong
by BeatUL on Feb 10, 2008 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
Tru Proved Otherwise
by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 10, 2008 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Hopson ad nauseum
http://www.courier-journal.com/blogs/demling/2008_01_01_archive.html
This from February 3--You have to scroll down to almost the bottom of the page to find this tidbit.
Headlines: "Hopson leads UHA to title" and "Gillispie watching UHA stars"
http://www.courier-journal.com/blogs/demling/2008_02_01_archive.html
by Ken Howlett on Feb 11, 2008 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
This from Mike Fields concerning Hopson
Entitled "Who's better: Edmonson or Hopson?"
by Ken Howlett on Feb 11, 2008 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
No Tru didn't
by BeatUL on Feb 11, 2008 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
I Didn't Read Where He De-Committed From MSU
What Gillispie may want is a public de-commit from MSU B4 offering.
Bruce Pearl has no such ethics or scruples.
by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 11, 2008 6:18 AM EST up reply actions
I didn't prove ...
I did, however, note the current "state of play."
Looking around is definitely different from decommitting.
Not splitting hairs....
Given the current state of affairs in sports today, a little ethics is refreshing.
by wldcatsfreak on Feb 11, 2008 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
He Finally Said It
by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 12, 2008 7:09 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, it certainly is splitting hairs..
the kid said he was looking, he was / is fair game and not talking to him is foolish, not ethical.
by BeatUL on Feb 12, 2008 9:06 AM EST up reply actions
I think...
Now that the kid has OFFICIALLY decided to reopen his recruitment we will see if BCG is really interested in him.
by wldcatsfreak on Feb 12, 2008 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
Tru
Tru
Driving back from Bowling Green tonight...
Tru... I want you to go back to that post from two months ago and take out the line that losing to San Diego would be worse than losing to Gardner-Webb. That statement is still burned in my mind to this day.
I'm sorry ...
However, that isn't what I said. What I said was this:
Quite frankly, every word in that statement was profoundly true at the time it was written. What, exactly, would you have me take back?
:-)
by Glenn Logan on Feb 10, 2008 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
What to take back...
Speaking of... did anyone else catch the College Gameday discussion before the UofL/G'town game on whether UK was in or not? Bilas was pretty adamant that they weren't. Digger and Hubert both seemed to think the door wasn't closed. I think the one thing they failed to really emphasize is that Kentucky would NOT get in if selection were held today. But if they close the SEC season as well as they started it, and pick up a couple wins in the tourney... then the discussion changes.
For some reason I have never understood ...
But if I could, I would.
I heard about the Gameday discussion, and I don't blame Bilas for his opinion. Despite our winning streak, we barely look NCAA-worthy even to our own fans.
Still, I think this is a case where Bilas is playing the odds a little too well, and may wind up having to get out a salt and pepper shaker at the end of the year. Then again, he might be the one laughing up his sleeve if the Cats fail to fire in any of our remaining games. We have no margin for error, and lots of room for doubt.
This ESPN article (thanks to UKWildCatFanatic) is one of several I have linked today where the media has noticed Kentucky's current win streak and is speculating about the chances of the resurgent Cats clawing their way into the field. So in sum, I think we can safely say that if the Cats continue to win, we will see more and more minds move from the "no way" to the "maybe."
Georgia 2001
Good article in TCP paper edition last week.
by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 11, 2008 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
In or Out?
by Stinky Blue on Feb 11, 2008 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Just some help
Also, any thoughts that the hard foul on Harris should have been called intentional? I was at the game, and the fans definitely thought it should have been. IMHO, that foul looked harder that the Bliss on Bradley foul.
Because ...
The ball is put in play after a direct technical foul at the point of interruption of play. Possession doesn't change and the penalty is two free throws.
by Glenn Logan on Feb 11, 2008 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
THANKS
Injury Updates
Thanks.
Ramon ...
Meeks practiced a little today, but nowhere near full speed. He is doubtful for tomorrow, and even if he can go, it won't be for long.
That may be part of it
Earlier this season Udonis Haslem was T'd up for throwing his mouth piece in frustration. It's examples like this all across the league that I find ridiculous.
Rasheed earned his reputation in his younger years but I must say that as a Piston he really is unfairly targeted. He is a really really smart basketball player and one of the best big men in the league and many times he is arguing the merits of a call with a ref and is T'd up because of his history. The man goes way out of his way to educate young bigs on the finer points of the game and does a heck of a lot for the community that he is unrecognized for.
No doubt...
His rep, like Lambieers will forever preceed him. Unfortunately for the Pistons those 2 names will always go hand in hand with the term technical.
by wldcatsfreak on Feb 11, 2008 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of Wallace
YES!
by wldcatsfreak on Feb 12, 2008 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Wallace
Tay' v. 'Sheed
Tay- 33.5 mpg
Sheed- 31.4 mpg
Tay- 44.3% FG's Down slightly from his career #'s
Sheed- 43.2 % FG's
Tay- 41.7% 3's Wow!
Sheed- 35.0%
Tay- 4.8 rpg
Sheed- 7.2 rpg
Tay- 3.0 apg
Sheed- 2.0 apg
Tay- 13.4 ppg
Sheed- 12.8 ppg
by Ken Howlett on Feb 12, 2008 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Tay vs. 'Sheed
I agree
by Ken Howlett on Feb 12, 2008 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Tay vs Sheed
Tay was great last summer on the olympic team. As usual he doesnt put up big stats but he was getting the most clock on the team before he went down with an ankle injury. He is the perfect person to play alongside all those stars.
In regards to Tay and Sheed's numbers I have to say the number dont tell the whole story. Tay has been playing much better lately but I have to say Sheed has been more of a positive impact on the Pistons this season up to this point. Thats said Tayshaun is an integral part of that team and if you take him away the Pistons really suffer. Rasheed was picked for the game becuase he plays the same position as Garnett. Doc Rivers is whining about how Ray Allen should have been sent in his place but even he admits that he voted for Rasheed on his own ballot.

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