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The Roundabout: A few observations

There are several interesting stories that came across my feed reader in the last day or so which I think deserve a bit more commentary and feedback from the Big Blue Nation.

The first is this nugget in today's Courier-Journal Basketball Notebook about Billy Gillispie's recruiting ethics.  Gillispie says that he doesn't recruit committed players who have not opened their recruitment back up:

"I don't recruit committed players," he said. "I haven't recruited committed players."

It's a significant point at UK. Rumors have swirled all season around Scotty Hopson, the University Heights star who's committed to Mississippi State but hasn't signed with the Bulldogs.

I think this is a remarkable, and laudable attitude, and it increases my respect for Coach Gillispie tremendously.  I have written at length about what I see as ethical shortcomings in recruiting, and it's nice to see the Kentucky coach drawing a bright line exactly where it belongs.  It's reasonably clear to me that Coach Gillilspie didn't try to bring DeAndre Jordan with him to UK, even though that would have no doubt helped Kentucky.  In fact, many online ethics heroes repeatedly bemoaned the fact that Gillispie didn't try to bring Jordan.  Sad, but true.

So what this means, dear reader, is that Gillispie considers Hopson off limits, and if he is to be taken at his word (and I do), he is not recruiting him, and unless he declares his recruitment reopened, he won't recruit him.  As far as I know, Hopson has made several very ambiguous statements about his recruitment, but has never officially reopened the recruiting process.

I wonder if they guy in the coke-stained white suit down here in my home town plays the recruiting game by the same rules?


While we are on the subject of the Kentucky basketball coach, I heard on his post-game comments that he blamed himself for the Cats' tentative play on offense yesterday.  Larry Vaught at the Danville Advocate-Messenger reports further:

"The worst thing that happened today was that I was too hard on our guys because I made them play a little bit tentative today because of the importance of the game," said Gillispie after the game. "I think they made some mistakes because of my attitude and I told them that.

"Hopefully, I won't make the same mistake, but I might. I think I got them to play too tentative because of the magnitude of the game, in my opinion."

That is simply fantastic.  It's so easy to blame the players, but Coach Gillispie has really impressed me with his willingness to place the responsibility for things where he thinks they belong.  Yes, when players do dumb things, they get a share, but whenever things go wrong, the UK coach places the responsibility in the proper place.  I find that a very endearing and laudable quality.


Matt Jones is reporting on an interaction between Ramel Bradley and Jerry Tiption yesterday.  Tipton asked Bradley why he no longer made the "Dynasty" triangle sign he was so famous for last year, and Bradley said it was because he essentially thought it was too self-focused and not team-focused.  I was never a big fan of that whole thing and was glad to see it stop, and just assumed it was Ramel deciding it was either no longer necessary or he had become bored with it.  His answer indicates he stopped making the "Dynasty" sign for selfless reasons -- yet another sign that Ramel Bradley has matured into a true leader.  Selfless acts, even insignificant-looking but highly personal ones like this are a hallmark of leadership, and Ramel is showing it in spades.  Good for him.


Finally, there is this article by John Clay in the Lexington Herald-Leader.  John is concerned about how physical basketball has become, particularly in the area of "hard" fouls, like the one given by Georgia's Dave Bliss last week that resulted in a concussion and cut chin for Ramel Bradley:

Dennis Felton saw nothing wrong with it. "A high-speed collision," said the Georgia coach this week.

Billy Gillispie saw nothing wrong with it. "I think it's part of basketball," said the Kentucky coach.

Gerald Boudreaux saw nothing wrong with it. "It was a tough play," the SEC's director of officials said this week. "Unfortunately in the game of basketball, there are a lot of tough plays."

Here's what's wrong with it: Somebody's going to get hurt.

I think Clay is exactly right.  If Ramel had been badly hurt in that fall, I suspect that fouls like this would be banned throughout NCAA basketball.  I saw a somewhat similar hard foul delivered by Florida's Dan Werner to JP Prince in the recent UT-Florida tussle.  I personally thought both Bliss' foul on Bradley and Werner's foul on Prince should have been called intentional fouls (Werner's was), at minimum.  Werner's was very nearly flagrant, not because Werner tried to hurt him, but the contact was unquestionably excessive and deliberate.

I hear players and coaches both rejecting this perception that the contact is too much, but quite frankly, I must respectfully disagree with them.  I know kids today play a very physical style of basketball, but we needn't outlaw all contact -- merely contact of the excessive nature that happens on breakaways and attempts to stop layups.  The NBA has done a better job at policing this type of contact than the NCAA has, and that is surprising and disappointing.

The SEC and NCAA need to stop this hard contact.  John Clay is right -- somebody is going to get badly hurt.  Why must we wait for that to happen before taking action?

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I have to disagree with you about the rough nature of today's game, especially in regards to the NBA's efforts to police the game. The NBA is way out of control and has put much to much power into the hands of the refs in regards to foul calls. I would like to see the league go back to the way it was before 2004. It's getting to the point where players cant even frown at a ref without being T'd up.  I can totally see where you are coming from thinking the game is too rough but basketball is a contact sport in my opinion. I would like to see a more concerted effort on getting the calls right and I dont like to see intentional fouls or a desire to harm someone but as long as a player is going for the ball a little contact is okay by me.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Feb 10, 2008 11:55 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I ...
concur in part and dissent in part.

I agree the NBA refs are to "Technical happy."  I'm not talking about technical fouls.

I am not talking about "a little contact," I am talking about excessive contact that could result in injury.  Basketball is not supposed to be a sport where deliberate contact designed to stop a score is allowed.  Incidental contact is certainly necessary and allowed, but we are talking primarily about actions that are already fouls, not contact incident to a play.

I don't think "intent to harm" is a reasonable standard for judging contact intentional.  If the foul was committed with excessive contact, "intent" is irrelevant.  The intent to stop the play at the cost of fouling is always there.  If excessive contact occurs, there should be an additional penalty whether you call it "intentional" or "flagrant" or "reckless" or whatever.

In my opinion, Bliss' efforts to stop Bradley were reckless and dangerous.  I have no doubt he intended to go for the ball, but the act was committed without regard for the consequences, the very definition of reckless.  Reckless contact should always be penalized more severely, in my opinion, as should excessive contact, i.e. a foul that was deliberately harder in order to prevent the possibility of a basket.

by Truzenzuzex on Feb 10, 2008 1:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

davw83...
Your disdain for the NBA officials being quick to pull the trigger on a tech wouldn't have anything to do with Rasheed and his ability to draw the ire of the refs at the drop of a dime would it? :)

by wldcatsfreak on Feb 11, 2008 8:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ramel's foul
watched it several times(tivo is awesome), bradley slowed down for the layup and got bumped and took a nose dive. He flopped and payed the price. Just because he got hurt nobody wants to acknowledge the fact that it was an unnecessary flop. One thing about Ramel that hasn't changed is that he continues to do horrible acting jobs when he's bumped or something

by spork on Feb 10, 2008 1:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Why wouldn't BCG recruit Hopson
he is no longer committed so he is fair game.  There is nothing wrong with that and it would not be BCG breaking his word.

by BeatUL on Feb 10, 2008 2:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Actually the article says he would ...
recruit a player who committed but didn't sign,  then reopened his recruitment:

"Speculation has been that UK is recruiting Hopson. Gillispie can't comment on unsigned prospects. But speaking generally, the UK coach said he has recruited players who committed to a school, then reopened their recruitment, but said he would not pursue a player who had not taken that step."

So BCG might surely be recruiting Hopson.  It does not mean that Hopson is off limits at all.

by BeatUL on Feb 10, 2008 3:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hopson
Has never publicly de-committed, just didn't sign LOI in Nov 2007.

He has been quoted that he remains committed to Miss St.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 10, 2008 3:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I am not sure that is correct..
when was the last time he said in public he is honoring his verbal?

by BeatUL on Feb 10, 2008 3:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lately I Don't Know
But I've read several quotes from Hopson saying that since November 2007.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 10, 2008 4:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am quite sure that is correct ...
he has never decommitted or said he isn't going to MSU.  He has said that he might be willing to change his mind.

Here is a recent review of the status.  He has never decommitted from MSU, but he has said he may look around some more before signing with them.

That isn't a decommitment, and it is obvious to me that was just the situation Gillispie is talking about.  Who knows, perhaps the comment itself will prompt Hopson to officially change his status.  And perhaps not.

by Truzenzuzex on Feb 10, 2008 5:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

UK Has 4 (Or 5) Good Ones At 2 And 3 Spots
Meeks and Jasper return. Harris also. Miller and Liggins signed. All play 2 or 3 spot.

Hopson plays 2 or 3 spot, too.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 10, 2008 5:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

From Rivals in December:
As for his recruitment, Hopson said that Tennessee, Louisville and Kentucky have been in contact with him and have offered scholarships. He also said it was his understanding that Indiana, Georgia and Georgia Tech had contacted his high school coach. Hopson also had these comments on his situation.

"I'm just weighing my options," said Hopson. "Signing is a big decision, and I want to make sure I make the right decision.

by BeatUL on Feb 10, 2008 3:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hoopmasters FWIW Said...
...Hopson committed to Mississippi State, but did not sign durinmg the early signing period, which ended last Wednesday. Sources close to his recruitment told Hoopmasters that he signed a letter of intent, which he can turn in up to 21 days after the end of the signing period or he could wait until the spring to make his college decision...

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 10, 2008 4:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

When did he sign
a LOI and to what school?

by BeatUL on Feb 10, 2008 4:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Miss St
He signed LOI but never sent it in to MSU. Null and void 21 days after LOI signing period ends.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 10, 2008 5:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well we dont know that..
hear say and rumor.  who really cares?

by BeatUL on Feb 10, 2008 8:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Van Coleman Reported It
Hopson coach or family member told him.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 10, 2008 8:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, hear say..
and rumor.

by BeatUL on Feb 10, 2008 9:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yet Factual
Hearsay and rumor both may be true. VC pretty accurate based on his 30+ years in recruiting gurudom.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 10, 2008 10:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe or maybe not...
but not this time.

by BeatUL on Feb 11, 2008 12:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tru's Thoughts
I have read and heard what everybody else has as far as Hopson is concerned. He has been open to re-recruitment, and Tennessee and Louisville are supposedly the frontrunners. I have read that Gillispie isn't crazy about Hopson because he thinks he takes plays off, which has been echoed by Jody Demling of the CJ. This was the widespread opinion of Hopson last year, but less so this year, so who knows.

I think Gillispie is ethically doing the right thing by not recruiting athletes who have already verballed.

It's funny that in football there apparently are no such ethical restrictions placed on coaches regarding the recruitment of verballed athletes. It's commonplace, as evidenced by UK losing Bohannon in the 11th hour to UT, due to a recruiting push by Tennessee. UT also made a push for Cobb, and Mason, both from Tennessee.

Reading the postgame comments last night after the game at ukathletics.com, I was quite surprised that Clyde took responsibility for the "offensive woes" of UK yesterday. It is rare indeed for a coach to reveal such things to the media.

Bradley's comments were very telling also. He stated that coach was very "tense", he went on to say that Gillispie said the game would be tight, and that "coach is always right". This is at least the third time this year that Bradley has uttered those words. It is very obvious, especially over the last seveal weeks, that Bradley holds Gillsipe in very high esteem. That can only bee good, for the present, and the future.

I thought Clay's article was on the money. I certainly am not against contact, but contacting an opponent while he is in the air, as Bliss did to Bradley, is very dangerous, and should be treated as such by the flunky officials. (Although, I do think there was a bit of Hollywood in Bradleys fall)

Hope you're feeling better Tru.

by Ken Howlett on Feb 10, 2008 3:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

But BCG said
he would recruit a kid who re-opened his recruitmen like Hopson has.  I am fine with that.

by BeatUL on Feb 10, 2008 4:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hopson has NOT reopened....
his recruitment....period.  End of story.  He will have to publicly say that he is not going to sign with MSU and make himself available...until that happens, any hope for him to play at UK is gone.  

by Chuck Alexinis on Feb 10, 2008 6:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, maybe Pearl, Pitino, and many others..
...have reopened it for him. In any case, he is being sought after very hard by many schools.

by Ken Howlett on Feb 10, 2008 6:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No the end of the story..
not even close.  I doubt he comes to UK but he verballed to MSU, did not sign the LOI and has now said he is leaving all his options open.

He is back out on the market.  No doubt about it,

by BeatUL on Feb 10, 2008 8:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Never Said That
He could say it, but hasn't.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 10, 2008 8:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wrong
Yes he has said it...  he has said publicly he is leaving all his options open.

by BeatUL on Feb 10, 2008 9:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tru Proved Otherwise
Hopson has never publicly decommitted from Miss St and re-opened his recruiting process. Never.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 10, 2008 10:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hopson ad nauseum
The following are links to two "stories" by Jody Demling from his blog regarding Hopson. Hopefully, this will put this semi-ridiculous dialogue to rest.

http://www.courier-journal.com/blogs/demling/2008_01_01_archive.html

This from February 3--You have to scroll down to almost the bottom of the page to find this tidbit.

Headlines: "Hopson leads UHA to title" and "Gillispie watching UHA stars"

http://www.courier-journal.com/blogs/demling/2008_02_01_archive.html

by Ken Howlett on Feb 11, 2008 12:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This from Mike Fields concerning Hopson
Be sure and read the entire paragraph.

Entitled "Who's better: Edmonson or Hopson?"

http://fieldsnotes.wordpress.com/

by Ken Howlett on Feb 11, 2008 12:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No Tru didn't
Hopson has made it clear a couple different times he is looking at other schools.  If this diappoints you for some strange reason I am sorry.

by BeatUL on Feb 11, 2008 12:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I Didn't Read Where He De-Committed From MSU
No doubt he is open to hearing about offers.

What Gillispie may want is a public de-commit from MSU B4 offering.

Bruce Pearl has no such ethics or scruples.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 11, 2008 6:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't prove ...
anything.

I did, however, note the current "state of play."

Looking around is definitely different from decommitting.

by Truzenzuzex on Feb 11, 2008 6:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Splitting hairs...
he is fair game now.

by BeatUL on Feb 11, 2008 9:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not splitting hairs....
as far as BCG is concerned.  Sounds like until the kid makes a formal, public announcement that he is reopening his recruitment, BCG will not consider him "fair game."

Given the current state of affairs in sports today, a little ethics is refreshing.

by wldcatsfreak on Feb 11, 2008 9:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, it certainly is splitting hairs..
there is no key word..  lol

the kid said he was looking, he was / is fair game and not talking to him is foolish, not ethical.

by BeatUL on Feb 12, 2008 9:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think...
you are missing the point, it's BCG's call to make, not yours, not mine, he only needs to do what he feels is right.  If in his opinion, kids that haven't officially de-commited are hands off than he has got to stick to his priciples.  Most people would admire that quality and feel the coach is doing what he deems ethical and wouldn't consider him "foolish."

Now that the kid has OFFICIALLY decided to reopen his recruitment we will see if BCG is really interested in him.

by wldcatsfreak on Feb 12, 2008 10:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tru
I got you. I agree with you about the Bliss foul. IMO he was just trying to run Bradley over.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Feb 10, 2008 4:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tru
My understanding of the Hopson situation is dead on what Tru is saying. Signing an LOI or not Hopson never sent it to MSU and has stated publicly that he is lookng at other schools but he is still fairly solid with MSU. Thats not reopening your recruiting per say BUT it does invite other schools to contact you and that you are open to going somewhere else. I heard G's comments and took exactly what Tru did from it and I really commend G for that position.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Feb 10, 2008 7:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Driving back from Bowling Green tonight...
Listening to ESPN radio, they did an interview with the head coach of (number 21 ranked) St. Mary's from the West Coast Conference.  One major thing that stuck out to me during the interview (besides the fact that their home court seats 3000 fans) is the current standings in the WCC.  Right now, St. Mary's has one conference loss and is tied at the top with Gonzaga and.... (wait for it)... (wait for it)... San Diego.  And ranked St. Mary's one loss was to guess who????  San Diego.  

Tru... I want you to go back to that post from two months ago and take out the line that losing to San Diego would be worse than losing to Gardner-Webb.  That statement is still burned in my mind to this day.

by chirop1 on Feb 10, 2008 8:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry ...
it burned in your mind.

However, that isn't what I said.  What I said was this:

This team [San Diego] is even worse than Gardner-Webb at the moment, and if the Cats lose this one, it will be the biggest upset in Rupp Arena history.  This team is nearly as weak as Tennessee Tech, so there are no excuses available for a poor performance Saturday.

Quite frankly, every word in that statement was profoundly true at the time it was written.  What, exactly, would you have me take back?

:-)

by Truzenzuzex on Feb 10, 2008 11:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What to take back...
Would it be possible to take back the entire first two months of the season?  Can we?  Please?  Just start things with SEC play?  Hey look everyone!  We're 6-2!!!!!

Speaking of... did anyone else catch the College Gameday discussion before the UofL/G'town game on whether UK was in or not?  Bilas was pretty adamant that they weren't.  Digger and Hubert both seemed to think the door wasn't closed.  I think the one thing they failed to really emphasize is that Kentucky would NOT get in if selection were held today.  But if they close the SEC season as well as they started it, and pick up a couple wins in the tourney... then the discussion changes.

by chirop1 on Feb 11, 2008 7:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

For some reason I have never understood ...
God neglected to grant me the power to manipulate time and space.  That may come as a shock to some, but sadly, it is so.  :-)

But if I could, I would.

I heard about the Gameday discussion, and I don't blame Bilas for his opinion.  Despite our winning streak, we barely look NCAA-worthy even to our own fans.

Still, I think this is a case where Bilas is playing the odds a little too well, and may wind up having to get out a salt and pepper shaker at the end of the year.  Then again, he might be the one laughing up his sleeve if the Cats fail to fire in any of our remaining games.  We have no margin for error, and lots of room for doubt.

This ESPN article (thanks to UKWildCatFanatic) is one of several I have linked today where the media has noticed Kentucky's current win streak and is speculating about the chances of the resurgent Cats clawing their way into the field.  So in sum, I think we can safely say that if the Cats continue to win, we will see more and more minds move from the "no way" to the "maybe."

by Truzenzuzex on Feb 11, 2008 8:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Georgia 2001
16-14 but #8 seed. One of 89 (yes, 8-9) teams to earn NCAA bid with 11+ L between 1985 and 2007.

Good article in TCP paper edition last week.

by FortyYearCatFan on Feb 11, 2008 8:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In or Out?
We could win the SEC tourny and definitely be in! As far as the first of the season, I think we needed the humilty and the learning curve of that dreadful start. BCG has something to point to and say, "Do we want to feel like we did then or do we want to feel like we do now after(is it 5?) five SEC wins in a row?"
Stinky Blue

by Stinky Blue on Feb 11, 2008 12:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Just some help
Can someone explain why UK did not get the ball after 'Bama's coach got T'd up? We shot free throws, and then 'Bama got the ball. Why didn't we get it back?

Also, any thoughts that the hard foul on Harris should have been called intentional? I was at the game, and the fans definitely thought it should have been. IMHO, that foul looked harder that the Bliss on Bradley foul.

by blbskue on Feb 11, 2008 8:49 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Because ...
Alabama had the ball.  

The ball is put in play after a direct technical foul at the point of interruption of play.  Possession doesn't change and the penalty is two free throws.

by Truzenzuzex on Feb 11, 2008 10:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

THANKS
That makes sense. I just wasn't aware of that, and none of the fans sitting around me got it either. I guessed there was a reason since BCG didn't seem to object.

by blbskue on Feb 11, 2008 10:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Injury Updates
Can anyone tell me the status of Harris and Meeks?  I get very little information down here in the Sunshine State.

Thanks.

by tooblue on Feb 11, 2008 5:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ramon ...
is fine and will be able to go.

Meeks practiced a little today, but nowhere near full speed.  He is doubtful for tomorrow, and even if he can go, it won't be for long.

by Truzenzuzex on Feb 11, 2008 5:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That may be part of it
BUT its not all of it.

Earlier this season Udonis Haslem was T'd up for throwing his mouth piece in frustration. It's examples like this all across the league that I find ridiculous.

Rasheed earned his reputation in his younger years but I must say that as a Piston he really is unfairly targeted. He is a really really smart basketball player and one of the best big men in the league and many times he is arguing the merits of a call with a ref and is T'd up because of his history. The man goes way out of his way to educate young bigs on the finer points of the game and does a heck of a lot for the community that he is unrecognized for.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Feb 11, 2008 10:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

No doubt...
he does do good and has definately been a nice fit in Detriot.  However, some of his antics do still merit a T from the officials, not all the time though.

His rep, like Lambieers will forever preceed him.  Unfortunately for the Pistons those 2 names will always go hand in hand with the term technical.

by wldcatsfreak on Feb 11, 2008 11:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of Wallace
Am I the only one who is mystified that Wallace was selected over Prince to replace Garnett in the All-Star game?

by Ken Howlett on Feb 11, 2008 11:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

YES!
I don't know what Tayshaun has to do to be put on an all star roster.  His block on Reggie Miller alone should have put him on the following years team.

by wldcatsfreak on Feb 12, 2008 10:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wallace
Wallace finished third in all star voting for the forward/center spot. Tay has been slumping a little this season although he has started to come around in the past few weeks and his numbers are down this season. He will eventually earn an all star berth if he keeps at it though.  
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Feb 12, 2008 10:37 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Tay' v. 'Sheed
A comparison:

Tay- 33.5 mpg
Sheed- 31.4 mpg

Tay- 44.3% FG's Down slightly from his career #'s
Sheed- 43.2 % FG's

Tay- 41.7% 3's Wow!
Sheed- 35.0%

Tay- 4.8 rpg
Sheed- 7.2 rpg

Tay- 3.0 apg
Sheed- 2.0 apg

Tay- 13.4 ppg
Sheed- 12.8 ppg

 

by Ken Howlett on Feb 12, 2008 11:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tay vs. 'Sheed
Given both their style of play and on court reputations, I think Prince is more likely represent the US in the olypics while Wallace will continue to make all star teams.  Personally I think Tayshaun should be exactly what the olympic commitee needs to be looking for to compliment Lebron, Kobe, Melo, and Kidd.

by wldcatsfreak on Feb 12, 2008 11:40 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree
Prince is exactly the type of player and personality that should represent the US in the Olympics.

by Ken Howlett on Feb 12, 2008 12:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Tay vs Sheed

Tay was great last summer on the olympic team. As usual he doesnt put up big stats but he was getting the most clock on the team before he went down with an ankle injury. He is the perfect person to play alongside all those stars.

In regards to Tay and Sheed's numbers I have to say the number dont tell the whole story. Tay has been playing much better lately but I have to say Sheed has been more of a positive impact on the Pistons this season up to this point. Thats said Tayshaun is an integral part of that team and if you take him away the Pistons really suffer. Rasheed was picked for the game becuase he plays the same position as Garnett. Doc Rivers is whining about how Ray Allen should have been sent in his place but even he admits that he voted for Rasheed on his own ballot.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Feb 12, 2008 3:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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