I think we finally understand one another, Billy Gillispie.
Losing to Louisville is a frustrating experience whatever the sport, but in basketball, it is particularly exasperating. I don't care if the Cardinals are the relative equivalent of the New England Patriots or the San Antonio Spurs, it hurts Cat fans deep in their soul. In basketball, fortunately, losses to the Cardinals happen far less than half the time, so we only have to go through this catharsis once or twice every few years.
I learned a few things yesterday about our team, and about Billy Gillispie. Billy Gillispie is not going to play zone. Ever. If you see him play zone, what you are seeing is a man on the way out the door, so in that sense, I am glad we haven't seen it. "Now, Tru," you may ask, "what about this is a revelation? He has told us from the outset he didn't like a zone defense. Besides, this has been discussed ad nauseum." OK, let me explain.
Louisville is a poor shooting perimeter team. Their known weakness is a zone defense, and it has been used to defeat the Cardinals several times this year. It gives a team that has less talent and athleticism a chance to hide their deficiencies and force perimeter shots. Every coach in America with a team similar to the Wildcats as currently constituted would have played some zone at least. Every coach, that is, except one -- Billy Giilispie. Gillispie not only didn't play "some zone," he hasn't played one second of zone, ever, since coming here. Not on an out of bounds play. No zone press. "Zone" may not be a four-letter word in your vernacular, but it absolutely is in Gillispie's. Even in a game where almost any college basketball coach in America would tell you that a zone is the appropriate defense, Gillispie never considered it even for one tiny second, if what happened on the court reflects his thinking.

While it may not seem that I am breaking any new ground here, you have to think past the obvious. When faced with a challenge, most people will try to defeat that challenge by any fair means possible. That is the kind of coaching we have come to expect in college basketball -- coaches making moves and countermoves, adjusting the defense, changing the offense and personnel rotations, tinkering with this and that in order to gain a competitive advantage. This game was the ideal game for Gillispie to show his pragmatism in order to gain a competitive advantage -- a game against a poor perimeter shooting club that has better athletes and a deeper bench. That makes the decision a no-brainer for virtually every college basketball coach I have ever heard of, except, apparently, one -- Billy Gillispie.
It is said that when all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. That's how it is with coach Gillispie -- his solution to every problem is "Play my way, and play harder." Billy Gillispie is obviously not a pragmatist. He is taking the position that Kentucky is going to win basketball games playing his way, and he is not changing his way for any reason whatsoever. None. Ever. If a team has a weakness, most coaches will look for ways to hide it or minimize its impact. Not Gillispie. No matter how big the game, how high the stakes, who his personnel are or who's life depends on it, there is only one way in the Kentucky universe to play college basketball with him as UK coach, and that is Billy Gillispie's way. Period. The End.
Now, think about this for a minute, and what this means. Gillispie is staking his entire career, his livelihood, his coaching reputation and millions of real dollars on "his way." Gillispie is "all in," as they say on the World Poker Tour. He is "all in" on his basketball philosophy, and will not let circumstances dictate a change. Gillispie isn't a pragmatist, he is absolutely single-minded and utterly inflexible, an idealist of the highest order. "My way or the highway" is not his credo -- it is "My way, win or lose." There is no highway. If there were, half our current team would be playing pick-up ball planning transfer along with Alex Legion. Billy Gillispie is so fixed on doing it his way that the result of the game is secondary to the way it is played. That is not to say he doesn't care about winning -- I'm sure he does. But what we are seeing here is a man that is willing to put his job and future on the line rather than sacrifice even the tiniest mote of his basketball principles on the altar of near-term success.
Folks, I have to tell you, that is both frightening and

What is clear is that Gillispie has not been successful yet transferring this set of beliefs to his charges. He recognizes the effort and so do I, but the problem is, the players have so far been either unwilling or unable to embrace Gillispie's core philosophy. The result is what we can see 6-7, with losses to unheard-of programs and being taken to the woodshed by three of our four most bitter rivals. Even with Kentucky nearing full strength, the Big Blue Nation is left wondering if the Cats can actually be competitive in the SEC, or if we will be overrun like we were yesterday.
I have no idea how this is going to work out. I fear for the Coach, though, because this is not TAMU or UTEP, where you can come in and sacrifice an entire season to install your philosophy. Kentucky fans simply aren't long-term thinkers, and this is 30+ years of adult Wildcat fandom speaking. I am willing to go through Hell, if necessary, to get to where we want to be, but how many are truly willing to go with me? Gillispie is quickly losing the local media, who desperately want to help him. He has lost the national media, who are now skeptical of his prior success. The rumor mill churns on, generating more spectacular "they says" with every loss. Can any coach survive in this ... maelstrom?
I have a feeling we are about to find out.
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Very interesting perspective...
"Frightening and fascinating" -- wow, what a great description. Thanks for leaving the strikethrough on the second word, for basketball fans outside of the Big Blue Nation who just can't unglue their eyes from the screen.
It takes a bold man in this age of long-range assassins and 3-point shooting to simply refuse to play zone coverage... ever. Frankly, it comes close to boggling the mind. He must be, literally, the only coach in D-IA basketball to espouse this philosophy.
I feel like I must be watching a modern hoops version of Karate Kid, where Mr. Myagi forces Daniel to "wax-on, wax-off" and paint his house "side-side" for days on end, refusing all questions until exasperation is answered with revelation, which finally comes in the form of a karate combo Daniel beautifully demonstrates thanks to his his newly acquired painting skills.
Like Myagi and his skinny little protege, I wonder if maybe there'll be a moment when Gillispie finally sees what he's been waiting to see; he'll grin, wink, pull his team into the huddle and then send them back out to finally play some zone.
He can't really refuse to ever play a lick of zone, can he? Can teams at this level survive without zone? It's impossible to play perfect man all night. Eventually someone will be out of position or the wrong guy gets doubled and a wingman on the perimeter is wide open for the trey. Saw plenty of wide open shots given to Louisville, and again saw the tired legs in second half.
Mystifying. Frightening. Fascinating.
He's definitely all-in, but you know the risk of that kind of gamble.
by Gatorpilot on Jan 6, 2008 10:22 AM EST 0 recs
I don't have any answers ...
In fact, I think it's safe to say that no program of Kentucky's stature has any experience with a coach like this. It is ... extraordinary.
I have met some gamblers in my life, but if my perspective is correct, Gillispie might need the NASA Vehicle Assembly Building to house his testicles. This man has balls big enough to cause a solar eclipse or set the planet off it's orbit.
I sure hope for his sake and ours it works out. I'm all in with him, but I have nothing at all at stake except some emotional attachment. I can't recall ever feeling that my fandom was quite so ... inadequate.
by Truzenzuzex on
Jan 6, 2008 10:34 AM EST
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I thought it was a good fight
What no one expected was a Cardinal team that looked like the team ranked preseason top 10. Had the Cards not gotten back to full strength, were Caracter and/or Sosa still sulking; any number of variables could have not improved and the Cards don't have the depth to run down the Cats.
My take on it: congratulate the Cats on a hard fight and encourage them to keep giving 100%.
by CarolnDave on Jan 6, 2008 10:41 AM EST 0 recs
Absolutely ...
I will always encourage the Cats, but this article is about Gillispie, not the game. Getting into his mind has not been easy, and part of being a Cat fan is understanding what is happening on the court. Up until yesterday, me and ... well, virtually everyone has had difficulty comprehending the coach.
But now, I think I have his measure. We'll just have to wait and see if this entire thing works out, but I will never abandon my team. Never. And Coach is an integral part of that team.
by Truzenzuzex on
Jan 6, 2008 10:52 AM EST
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Just Another Coal on the Fire
That my friends is a dual-edged sword. All or nothing! WHEW!
I am not sure how many of us today could, or even would, commit so totally to our philosophy in day to day life. Some might even venture the word psychopathic in his determination. I'm not quite there yet, but I am keeping a close watch.
by Bluegilla on Jan 6, 2008 11:16 AM EST 0 recs
watching Gillispie is very strange...
by I am legend on Jan 6, 2008 11:21 AM EST 0 recs
Regardless how
What has led to losses this year is not being able to shoot consistently,and failure to execute properly(turnovers).Games that were won,were games when the shots went down,and fewer turnovers,and stupid fouling.
UofL had 46 free throw attempts yesterday,and the game turned into a freethrow shooting contest in the last 5 minutes.If UK shoots better than the 25% they shot early in the second half,and the defense holds UofL to 40% rather than the 65% they had,its a whole different game.
by UKats on Jan 6, 2008 12:16 PM EST 0 recs
Agreed...
And really this is the stubbornness that Rupp had... Which is nearly terrifying because whether we Kentucky fans want to admit it - The Baron as a new coach coming into this program wouldn't make it today.
by trich on Jan 6, 2008 12:17 PM EST 0 recs
Too Correct.....Unfortunately
The most appropriate observation you make is that the UK fans do not have the patience to wait for the new system to work. They want proof of performance now. Question is......will Barnhart be able to weather the storm and wait for results?
I suspect with the conflict on the contract, that
Barnhart will support a "one and out" scenerio. If only 1/2 of all of the rumors on the off court behavior of BCG is true, then he won't have any support from the aministration to give him the time he needs to recruits that will adopt his style.
A new coach is a certainty. Can you imagine then how difficult it will be to get anyone to come and coach at UK? It would only be a past player that would risk coming to this environment.
We are in deep trouble.
by woohop on Jan 6, 2008 12:39 PM EST 0 recs
I hope ...
The real question is, can Barnhart himself survive a major uprising? I really don't know the answer to that.
by Truzenzuzex on
Jan 6, 2008 12:59 PM EST
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Near Suicide.
Who would the alternative be other than recruiting a new coach within "The Family"?
This Coach can do the job if the fans don't hyperventilate and some of the people on the other side of the Old Coach's debate don't bask in the schadenfreude too much.
by trich on
Jan 6, 2008 1:40 PM EST
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I totally agree ...
If we think this season has been tough so far, I'm not sure we have seen the bottom yet. God, I hope so.
by Truzenzuzex on
Jan 6, 2008 1:43 PM EST
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We have not seen the bottom
by sgray62 on Jan 6, 2008 2:03 PM EST 0 recs
Excellent Perspective
But there was no Internet then so he was allowed time to implement his system and style.
After that 6-7 start, he finished 213-43 (83+ %) those 8 seasons.
by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 6, 2008 2:29 PM EST 0 recs
Right you are
UK has lost what 25 games in the previous two seasons. Surely we knew that this year was going to be a downer. Isn't that really why the previous coach left? Would he have done better with his players(isn't Patterson Gillispie's only player?) than the present coach? Probably, a little. When is Gillispie going to put in his system? This year? Next year? When? Must he sacrifice the underclassman to the past. I don't think he's going to change the seniors. They've played a different brand of ball too long.
He should do exactly what he's doing for the underclassman. I can remember years ago Pitino putting in his style of play without the players to play. Remember when they went to Kansas and got slaughtered? Pitino coached for the long term and it paid off.
Gillispie will be just fine
by 58Fan on
Jan 7, 2008 2:33 AM EST
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I'll disagree a little
I think he is as profound as you say. I do think "former player" is correct; if Billy Gillispie doesn't work out, we will see Travis Ford on the UK sideline, and he will be an incredible success.
Don't like Ford and want Pelphrey instead? Fine. I just don't think that the situation is as dire as you say with those two waiting in the wings.
As for his insistence on man to man: every team needs it's "go to" defense and offense. This team hasn't learned to play Billy's man to man yet. I believe once Billy has players who have played his man to man successfully for a year or two, he will teach a one three one or a matchup zone. But he has to have ONE defense that players play well.
I've said this all over the internet and I'll say it here. We were left a team of four or five two guards, a "point forward" and some leftovers on the front line. We aren't quick, and we aren't good shooters from the outside. We don't really have a point guard or a center. Who will win with a team without a point guard or a center, without quickness, ball handling or shooting skills?
by bigsky on Jan 6, 2008 2:48 PM EST 0 recs
Disagree About SEC Season Being Tough
If healthy, the 2008 team CAN win 10 SEC games.
by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 6, 2008 3:03 PM EST 0 recs
Can anyone remember?
I am not one to sacrifice a season to instill an offence either, however we seem to forget that the coach we once worshiped used many very similar tactics...dedication to the offence, Game day practices, sparing with the compliments.
I liked how that guys term as coach turned out... I am willing to bet that the new guy knows what he is doing.
I am willing to wait and see.
by sylvar on Jan 6, 2008 3:04 PM EST 0 recs
1997 And 2007 Rosters
07 UK roster left over 2 C (if Morris back) 3 F - 5 G. Recruits included 1 C - 1 F with F and G added.
by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 6, 2008 3:08 PM EST 0 recs
Talent in 2006 and 2007
Last year Bobby Perry played the three spot. Of the remaining players this year who even comes close to comparing with Perry? No one
Lukasz Orbzut was the backup center. Who on the bench can compare to Woo? Carter? Williams? No one. Sherray Thomas was a power forward. Who on this years bench can play power forward as well as Sherray? Can't think of anyone.
Kentucky's bench this year does not even come close to the ability of Perry,Woo,or Thomas. There has been a big drop in overall talent and experience.
by 58Fan on
Jan 7, 2008 12:39 PM EST
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Patterson over Morris?
The two playing together would be would be the most desirable situation, and would solve many of UK's problems.
by Ken Howlett on
Jan 7, 2008 1:28 PM EST
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Morris and Patterson
by 58Fan on
Jan 8, 2008 3:01 AM EST
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Perry, Thomas, Woo
You ask who compares to Perry on this team? I'll take just about any of them. Maybe not from a leadership perspective, but playing ability I put him just above AJ Stewart at this point.
Woo? I think Carter compares very favorably to Woo. The difference is, he doesn't have a foreign accent and a silly name to make him likable.
Thomas? Again, I'd compare to AJ Stewart or Mark Coury. They're on about the same level.
As you pointed out that Porter didn't play... I meant to ask if there had been any comment on him not playing? Its another example of BCG's inexplicable substitution patterns. The kid plays 30+ minutes a game up to this point and doesn't even see the floor against UofL? Odd in my book.
by chirop1 on
Jan 7, 2008 1:31 PM EST
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More Perry, Thomas, Woo
What if Perry,and he alone, were on this team? I'm convinced he'd be starting at the three spot. He was a heady kid who hustled,and at times could score some points.
What if Perry,and he alone,were on this team? He might well get some time at power forward because he would be more physical that what's here now.
Agreed, those three were not up to the standards of the past. The problem is those on the bench are worse,at least for now. Some of them like Stewart may in time be pretty good players.
by 58Fan on
Jan 8, 2008 3:17 AM EST
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Correction
by 58Fan on
Jan 8, 2008 3:22 AM EST
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what a crock
You know maybe, just maybe I could beat myself in the head with a hammer long enough that I could persuade any reasoning I have remaining to induldge this argument but I just have one glaring fly in the ointment so to speak.
I am to believe the genius of BCG and also accept the fact that his genius will not allow him to start Joe Crawford but his geniusness can play him for 35 minutes. His genius can play Meeks and Jasper when they're "available". Explain this psychobable first and then possibly I can make this ride to la la land and along the way say hello to the sugar plum fairy.
by modcpa on Jan 6, 2008 3:36 PM EST 0 recs
What would you have him do?
I've said it time and again. Tubby would have struggled to win this season. Add in injuries, bull headed seniors, new systems all players are trying to learn...
Einstein himself couldn't win with this team and I think his "geniusness" was not questioned.
by hoopchi on
Jan 6, 2008 3:52 PM EST
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fix?
For better or worse I think he's one and done and as I've said many times I think it is off court problems that will be his downfall.
by modcpa on
Jan 6, 2008 4:12 PM EST
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Right...
Yeah, don't stop believin', hatah.
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by JL Blue on
Jan 6, 2008 4:19 PM EST
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Sutton
by modcpa on
Jan 6, 2008 5:04 PM EST
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Sutton years
by BeatUL on
Jan 6, 2008 6:17 PM EST
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I fail to see...
by hoopchi on
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Not A Genius (But)
by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 6, 2008 3:45 PM EST 0 recs
Let Him Coach
Ya don't need 100,000 (or a million) assistants.
by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 6, 2008 4:23 PM EST 0 recs
the ugly truth
i think tru hits some great points and i agree with much, but i am a little more optimistic.
quick points:
- apparently BCG's method of teaching his system is like training a wild animal. he seems to be trying to bend the team to his will. we all need to realize that this team will most likely not pull out of the tailspin this season.
- the cats will, if BCG history is true to form, be good next year. bradley and crawford will move on and the team will be young and better able to adjust to his system.
- it is apparent now why tubby chose the end of last season to leave. if he was getting the beat down over 22 win seasons, what would he do with a team that was headed for a .500 record? the fact is that this team would not excel under any coach.
- the cats will win a couple that will surprise us this year. no matter if they are a little down on talent, they are starting to learn BCG's system. and although there are not NBA players on the team, they show some talent and heart from time to time. the last 10 minutes of the first half were wonderful.
by mateotemprano on Jan 6, 2008 4:24 PM EST 0 recs
I'm not necessarily pessimistic ...
My experience is that Cat fans won't be patient. Maybe (hopefully?) I am wrong about that. I would dearly love to be.
by Truzenzuzex on
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Tru
by 58Fan on
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I do not agree. Not at all.
Myself, like the rest of the crowd need to be reminded to step back look at what is truly going on. Folks, it isn't "my way or the highway." BCG is not a riverboat gambler and he hasn't gone "all-in." Makes for good reading but it is void of reality.
The Present & Future: DeCourcy said it best in an article we all loved and held to (until a couple more losses brought out the short sightedness of UK fans once again): "Winning any particular game is not as important, in the long term, as establishing a method by which championships can be won. If Gillispie had his players running stairs on the day of the Gardner-Webb game, he likely had a reason. If the reinforcement of whatever principle moved him on that day eventually leads to a victory in some Elite Eight game, we'll never know. He will, though. And Kentucky will find itself back in the Final Four for the first time since 1998." If he were to write this today, he would have added something about playing m2m every minute of every game.
The Past: Again, I will defer to a man much more capable of verbalizing this than I am: "Kentucky did not get to where it is now in one off-season. It took years of mismanaging the program by the previous coach -- and the bosses who failed to properly direct him -- to get the Wildcats to the position where they could lose five of their first nine games. It took some stunningly uninspired recruiting and some dumb scheduling to get them here. It is going to require energetic recruiting and smart scheduling to move them forward. Most of all, though, this process demands patience. But that appears to be in shorter supply than elite talent." Remember my friends, BCG has already singed more talent in less than a year than Tubby did his previous four.
I applaud BCG for what he is doing. He is doing it the right way. Elite coaches are driven by the will to win and building a legacy. BCG is no different.
He didn't accept the UK job to come in and go 20-12 and get beat in the second round of the NCAAs year after year. He didn't come to UK to become another 10-loss-Tubby. He came to UK to rebuild a crumbling empire; to make it what it once was--the dominating force in college basketball.
Why do I say BCG is doing it the right way? He has tunnel vision of building long-term dominating success at UK and he is not going to let a wonderful & very vocal fan base or local media bantar change this. BCG is certainly not going to let short-term woes change what he knows it is going to take for UK to become dominate once again. Fellow Wildcats, do not buy in to this "my way or the highway" bantar.
This season is about the future. If UK plays every minute of every game in man-to-man defense it is because that is what is needed to rebuild UK into long-term domination of the SEC. It is not about being stubborn. It is not about "my way or the highway." It is about rebuilding; it is about changing a deteriorating program; it is about developing long-term success.
Folks, read DeCourcy's article again.. then read it again. Then email it to every UK fan you know. It is truly insightful; it is written by someone who truly understands Billy Gillispie and what is going on.
Lastly, I want to encourage my UK brethren with this. It is always darkest before the dawn. The prior regime drove us into this dark night. A new regime with proven success and ability to recruit elite talent is now at UK. They will bring us into the new dawn. UK is in the midst of a necessary yet painful transformation. When the metamorphosis is complete what you are going to see is the most athletic, talented and dynamic program in college basketball.
by BeatUL on Jan 6, 2008 7:22 PM EST 0 recs
A Few Errors In There...
Decourcy - any qualifications at all?
UK #1 recruits in 04 - #1 JC in 2005 - Top 15 in 06. Bad how?
Gillispie AVERAGES 20-12.
by FortyYearCatFan on
Jan 6, 2008 10:40 PM EST
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No errors...
DeCourcy - read his article; all I said he verbalizes it well. No error.
Tubby's "great" recruiting class was signed 5 years ago. Oh, and that "great" class produced one of the worse 4 year periods in UK history.
"Gillispie AVERAGES 20-12." Uhmm.. ok. So?
No errors.. just logic and the truth.
by BeatUL on
Jan 6, 2008 11:25 PM EST
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That's all very fine ...
After rereading you, I am convinced that in your haste to disagree with me, you didn't read what I wrote with care. I understand that it was a long piece and there is much in there to disagree with. But I never accused Gillispie of "my way or the highway," and you would know that if you read what I wrote. I also never used the term "Riverboat gambler," an I don't think there is any doubt at all that Gillispie is placing all his chips in one basket. Answers like "that's just my decision" are substantial evidence of that.
And how do you purport to know all this? Are you privy to Gillispies inner conversations? If it's just an opinion, why are you so certain that you are right and others are wrong? On what basis can you deny any room for doubt? My point here is that your opinion is no more valid than mine. Many people, me included, are not just inclined to take a person's word, especially after the reality doesn't quite live up to the expectations that Gillispie himself helped create.
You may be right, for all I know, but certainly your reasoning is no more compelling on its face. You assure us that Gillispie "knows what he is doing," but there is no evidence of that, not really. DeCourcy is a sportswriter, one I happen to respect, but I do know for a fact that both you and I are closer to the situation than he is. Why does he get to become the opinion authority and have the last word on Gillispie?
I still believe in the guy, I really do. I think he owes UK fans more than he is giving out, but that is surely a judgment call on Gillispie's part -- if he doesn't want to, he certainly doesn't have to.
My entire point was that pragmatism is simply not in Gillispie's wheelhouse, or if it is, he has not shown any so far. He has shown not one whit of inclination to adjust his philosophy to take advantage of opponent's weaknesses. If that is part of his plan, fine, but that just goes to reinforce my take that he is essentially a rigid idealist. That doesn't make him a bad coach, or even the wrong coach for UK -- it is simply a fact that we haven't had a coach like that since Rupp, and almost nobody is old enough to speak authoritatively on how Rupp was in his heyday.
I also suggest that rigid idealism may result in a season so bad that it becomes catastrophic. Even if I am willing to go "all in" with Gillispie, and I am, that doesn't mean the rest of the BBN will follow. My experience is that most of them will not.
by Truzenzuzex on
Jan 7, 2008 12:11 AM EST
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stop with the all in
by modcpa on
Jan 7, 2008 9:30 AM EST
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Yeah ...
What is the big deal here? In the context I use it, "all in" simply means he is committed to his philosophy, and is willing to stake everything on it.
In poker, that's exactly what "all in" means. It means you bet whatever you have, and if you lose, you are out of the game. The same is true with Gillispie -- if he loses his bet, if Kentucky doesn't improve under his system, he will be out. That is a fact. The only real variable, assuming he is actually unsuccessful, is when.
I'm sorry if you don't like my metaphor, but I think it's apt. YMMV.
by Truzenzuzex on
Jan 7, 2008 11:12 AM EST
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Poker Knowledge
by chirop1 on
Jan 7, 2008 1:33 PM EST
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all in
by modcpa on
Jan 7, 2008 10:02 PM EST
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Chill
by senowen on
Jan 8, 2008 10:39 AM EST
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Ok. Let's see...
"Having bet all of your chips in the current hand."
"When a player puts all of his remaining bankroll into a pot."
"When you have put all of your playable money and chips into the pot during the course of a hand, you are said to be all-in."
"Betting all of your chips in a hand."
"When a player bets all his chips in a poker game."
That's probably enough to confirm that Tru's analogy or metaphor or usage of the term "all-in" does apply here. Let's discuss the situation and not the way it is linguistically presented.
by hoopchi on
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Coach G.
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Other than that..
by BeatUL on Jan 6, 2008 7:25 PM EST 0 recs
Patient, but not Brain-Dead
I expected some adjustment difficulties, but after 13 games, dangnabit, this team should be showing some improvement. As of yet, I have seen absolutely NO IMPROVEMENT in the team or BCG's ability to bench coach.
I want to be patient, but patient for what? More of the same? His flippant answers in interviews provide little insight into what his strategy is and what he is doing to solve these problems so we can win games ASAP.
I am frustrated more than just with BCG's win-loss record at UK right now. His relations with the media and the fans are strained at best. He seems to be stubborn, pompous and flippant when dealing with the media and the fans. He needs to realize that the fans are an important and knowledgable part of UK basketball and they need to be informed and treated with respect.
I'm a diehard fan and nothing will sway my allegiance. But I hope BCG will become more UK-friendly the longer he is here.
by bevcat on Jan 6, 2008 7:39 PM EST 0 recs
Oh give me a break...
by BeatUL on
Jan 6, 2008 7:48 PM EST
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Maybe
Obviously there must be a hang up on an incentive program for the coach having everyone tell him how to do his job.
by wldcatsfreak on
Jan 6, 2008 9:50 PM EST
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What Zone?
Take a deep breath, Tru. We cannot afford to have those as knowledgable and passionate as you give up too early.
by longtime on Jan 6, 2008 8:25 PM EST 0 recs
I haven't given up anything ...
I think you might need to reread what I wrote when you have more time. I don't think you understood what is in there.
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One Bad Year Equals What
I, for one, will be glad when UK basketball becomes fun again. One of my favorite seasons was the 1990 season. We played .500 ball, but were a blast to watch. That team knew what it was like to have the snot pounded out of them, as evidenced by the 13-19 record the year before. The players on this year's team have had nothing of that to motivate them. All of BCG's rebuilding projects have started from the trash heap. Give him time and, if you can't, go join those who questioned Barnhart about keeping Brooks. Perhaps those people should fire up www.firerichbrooks.com to go along with their www.firebcg.com sites. Oh, wait, that Ditch Rich movement has already been tried. We see how that worked out when someone has a bit of patience.
by Tom Seaver on Jan 6, 2008 8:48 PM EST 0 recs
BCG
Folks - the man is a winner - period. I know that many of us think we are basketball geniuses, but I highly doubt any of us are being paid millions to coach basketball.
Let it ride, see if we feel this way by the end of the season or the end of next season.
"One and out" has to be the dumbest premise I have heard to date. BCG will get several years to right the ship. UK would not be able to withstand the backlash if he were released after this year.
by gacatfan on Jan 6, 2008 9:22 PM EST 0 recs
Patience is a Virtue
I think it is very naive to think that we as fans have any control over the decisions made by the coach or the AD. Most of "The Nation" was ready to throw the Tubster overboard two years ago. Will we get better? Time will tell. I always have considered UK Basketball entertainment, even at 6/7 I have still found this year very entertaining which is something I could not have said last year.
by Idiod on Jan 6, 2008 9:41 PM EST 0 recs
Decourcy No, Bilas Yes
I think Bilas said it better - You Wanted Change, You Got, Now Give Him Time (words to that effect).
by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 6, 2008 10:21 PM EST 0 recs
I think the past several posts
BCG knows waht he is doing and the whining I hear about BCG not pouring out all his thoughts to the fans is pathetic. Upset at BCG? Cry a river, build a bridge and get over it.
by BeatUL on Jan 6, 2008 11:29 PM EST 0 recs
May I respectfully suggest ...
People are entitled to their opinions, whether you agree with them or not. Please keep that in mind.
by Truzenzuzex on
Jan 6, 2008 11:33 PM EST
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Clyde v. Everyone Else
For those reading my take, I want you to remember back to when Morris signed with the Knicks. It was the day Tubby left. If you are like me you instantly pondered the upcoming season. Thinking, "who do we have coming back, and who do we have coming in?"
My initial thoughts were that we were going to be in for a long season. Undersized with Morris leaving, and with a short bench. I honestly thought 15-16 wins would be a nice number to shoot for.
Then Clyde is hired, and he miraculously saves Patterson. If you are like me, you had your computer tuned to KentuckySportsRadio to listen to the annoncement live. I was giving a friend blow by blow updates ove


