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Basking in the glow of unexpected victory

The very best victories are the ones you don't expect.  That's true in life, for sure, but nowhere is it more axiomatic than in sports.  An unanticipated win against a superior opponent just causes those little endorphin thingys to run wild, giving you a wonderfully sated sensation.  For whatever reason, this win was much more satisfying than the Vanderbilt victory, possibly because we suspected at the outset that Vanderbilt was just a tad overrated.  But Tennessee most assuredly was not, and even though beating Vandy was great in view of their recent success against us, beating a #3 ranked Volunteer team is particularly wonderful.

Reading around the Internet today, I noticed yet one more in a long line of "Perry Stevenson sux" posts on The Cats Pause.  Even a great game by the guy only gets him limited props from many, "yeah, but that's just one game."  No, it's four fine games in a row, this one was spectacular where the others were just good.  Perry Stevenson is getting better and more productive because finally, after 1.5 years as a Cat, he is getting one of the things you cannot teach -- experience.  There is simply no substitute for game experience, and as helpless as Stevenson has looked at times this year, he was very nearly a dominant player last night.  5 blocked shots may not be Varnado-esque, but it is impressive against such a highly ranked team.

Stevenson is finally learning to use his slender build to his advantage.  Nobody seems to notice that he and Varnado are virtually the same size and same weight, yet Varnado has managed very well for himself among the thick bodies of the SEC power forwards, thank you very much.  Thickness is an advantage in a power game, but games may also be won with athleticism and finesse, and it's that latter thing that Stevenson seems to be improving on.  His ballhandling is still a bit shaky, but light-years ahead of where he was earlier in the season.  Running the high-low with him and Patterson is becoming deadly, and it truly warms the cockles of my heart to see Stevenson figuring out how to succeed among the bruisers in the paint.


Another fascinating subplot I have seen debated hotly is the fact that this year's team looks and plays very much like last year's in a macro sense -- slow tempo, emphasis on defense, etc.  One of the biggest criticisms of Tubby Smith from the Big Blue Nation was the fact that he played a deliberate style.  Many fans wanted to see Rick Pitino's style, although a good number really probably used style as a substitute for results.  What we see now is that Gillispie is closer to Smith in style of play, at least with these players.  Unlike Smith, Gillispie seems to be a tireless recruiter who actually likes to recruit, and is signing players who should be able to play at a faster pace.  The jury will have to remain out on that until some of our older recruits move along, but it is interesting that many who were critical of Smith's style are not so critical of a very similar style under Gillispie.  But no matter where you fall out on that debate, one thing I think most fans can agree on -- results trump style every time.

There is a lot of good reading in the daily news, and I encourage you to take a look at some of them if you have the time.  Ramel Bradley is starting to really take ownership of his responsibilities as lead guard, and even though I think he takes slights a little to personally, I would rather have that than the alternative.  He played a really great game last night, and his leadership and determination are a big reason why we won the game, not to mention his free-throw shooting.  I am continually amazed at the confidence the Cats have shown at the line, particularly when compared to some of the teams of the Smith and Pitino era.  It is truly extraordinary and ... well I can't remember the last time Kentucky led the league in free throw shooting -- that has historically been a statistic dominated by the Commodores of Vanderbilt.


So where is this team going?  It's hard to say, but we have seen four quality efforts in a row now, with last night's being much the best.  If the Wildcats can continue to be a reflection of their coach and play hard-nosed defense and determined offense, I'm not sure what the ceiling for this team is.  We are facing a stretch of four games we aught to win, two of them at home.  If Kentucky can go 3-1 or 4-0 in the next couple of weeks, we could develop some momentum that may lead us to the post season in some form or fashion.  Of course, the SEC tournament is always a doorway into the Big Dance, and if we can beat UT here, you have to figure that there is at least a chance we can run the table and get into the tournament.  Even if not, the two wins we have had against top 25 competition plus a winning overall record might get us an invitation to the NIT, which I think most Wildcat fans would happily (or maybe grudgingly, I guess) take this year.

One thing is for sure -- this team is learning how to win, and there is no more important lesson to learn in college basketball than how to win.  I am optimistic, but we do have to temper that optimism with the reality that three of our best players are still hurt, and are likely to carry that hurt with them the rest of the year.  Playing the crazy minutes they are seeing right now risks aggravating those hurts into injuries.  I saw a stat while ago that Patrick Patterson is averaging 42.5 minutes per game over the last 4 games.  That isn't good, but it's the lot we have drawn.  South Carolina is next.

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I was...
thinking the exact same thing last evening about style of play as I watched the game.  Names popped into my head about the many Tubby detractors in regards to style of play and how defensive some of them now are in regards to the current Coach.

I have also been wondering what this team is doing differently in practice in regards to free-throws.  Specifically what has changed between Tubby to Gillispie - I have heard that they no longer make free-throws a part of the practice.  Can that really make this huge of a difference?

by trich on Jan 23, 2008 11:29 AM EST reply actions  

In a comment below ...
I compared free throw shooting to making three-foot putts in Golf.  It's easy to over practice, or to practice badly.  You know the old saying -- "Practice doesn't make perfect.  Perfect practice makes perfect."

Practicing free throws must be done perfectly, or its better not to practice them at all.  Confidence is the most important thing, anyway -- confidence and a repeatable routine.

by Glenn Logan on Jan 23, 2008 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Style
This team doesn't look anything like Tubby Smith's teams to me, in terms of style.  This team is fun to watch; Tub's teams really weren't.  Don't ask me why, they just weren't.  By the way, I'm a Tubby Smith fan.  But really, style is about more than how quickly you score or whether you play tough defense.  Gillispie's team plays it a whole different way than Tubby did, and I think most fans would agree.

by tzuzaki on Jan 23, 2008 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

Fun?
Fun is truly subjective. What's "fun" to you isn't necessarily fun to another.

Tru is spot on in his comparison. As usual.

by Clandestine on Jan 23, 2008 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Style and fun
Not sure what you're saying here....  My point is that the "style" of play is much different between Tubby's teams and BCG's.  Maybe they both focus on defense and don't run and gun, but the look and activity on the court is much different.  Man-to-man, for example, simply doesn't look like ball-line D.

Now, whether one is more fun to watch than the other isn't really the point.  The point is that fans can like BCG's style and not Tubby's and still be consistent.  Tru's suggestion to the contrary I think is off base.

by tzuzaki on Jan 23, 2008 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

"Fun"
I'm with Tru on this one. More often than not people who claim BCG's style of play is "more fun" are simply taking a swipe at Tubby. Style of play is most often related to tempo and the stats show that BCG's team is as slow (or slower) in tempo than Tubby's teams of the past.

by Clandestine on Jan 25, 2008 8:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Re:
Great game to watch last night! I've managed to catch a lot of Kentucky losses this year, but missed out on the Vandy win, so it was great to see the Wildcats pull this one out.

I was also amazed to see Gillispie crack a smile; that's something I can't even recall seeing during his tenure at A&M.

by jc25 on Jan 23, 2008 12:14 PM EST reply actions  

Style
I agree with tzuzaki that while the pace is the same this team looks MUCH different than last year's playing at the same tempo.

There is much more movement in the offensive sets and more direction on the offensive side of the ball. Tubby clearly had more plays installed BUT there is much less pounding of the ball outside the three point line.

On defense I like the straight in your face deny the pass man better than the ball line. It's more entertaining to see players get up in someone's jersey.

I think a lot of UK fans who whine about the tempo dont know squat about basketball. We all say that UK fans are among the most educated basketball fans but those who comlpain about tempo sure dont exhibit any knowledge. The game has changed since Pitino came to UK and people need to get with the times. Look at Pitino's own numbers at UofL. They tell a much different story. I sure havent seen the Phoenix Suns win a championship yet and until I do I'll take effciency and substance over running and jacking up three's any day of the week.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Jan 23, 2008 12:20 PM EST reply actions  

Stevenson
Surprisingly, Tru, in all the stuff I've read today about last night's victory, you're the first I've seen make more than a passing comment on Stevenson. Where I come from 14 points, 7 rebounds, 5 blocks, and 2 assists gets you consideration for player of the game.

I think you're spot on (as usual) regarding why we've seen the improvement -- experience. At the risk of sounding like I'm piling on Tubby, I think a good number of us wanted to see more Stevenson and less Sheray Thomas last year. Yes, Thomas was more consistent, but Stevenson had more upside. Unfortunately, that upside could only be realized through playing time against quality opponents. Tubby would rather go with the known quantity in Thomas than weather the learning process with Stevenson.

Gillispie proved that he wasn't afraid of the growing pains (or perhaps he didn't have any choice but to live with them) and now he is reaping the benefits in the form of a possible low-post compliment to P-Pat. Remember when Stevenson got 5 fouls in 8 minutes against UNC and Gillispie called it his best game all year? There's no teacher like learning from your own mistakes.

Here's hoping this kind of player development proves to be one of Coach G's strengths. If he can recruit the best players and then make them better, we'll be back to our rightful position at the top of the college basketball world sooner rather than later.

by Acdixon on Jan 23, 2008 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

I think ...
Stevenson actually was player of the game.

:-)

by Glenn Logan on Jan 23, 2008 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah
I didn't actually know who got the honor, but if Stevenson did, the papers this morning didn't seem to reflect it. That's all I was saying.

by Acdixon on Jan 23, 2008 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

A.J.'s PT
I'd like to see Stewart getting a little more playing time -- experience -- this year.  

by Fortunatus on Jan 25, 2008 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Clandestine
I think Tru is correct BUT I also think that you hear less griping about the pace because of the increaed motion and agressivness on the court. He does not really address WHY fans arent griping (except for the comment about results) just that they arent.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Jan 23, 2008 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

I attribute it ...
as much to boredom with Smith's system as anything.  There really isn't that much difference offensively, it just seems that way because it is a different type of offense.

Plus, people want to see Gillispie's offense in a positive light, and by the time Smith left, that just wasn't the case.  Last night, UK's offense ran exceptionally smoothly, primarily due to the fact that UT's half-court defense just isn't that good -- they rarely play it.  But if you recall the game against Vandy, for much of the second half, our offense ran about as smoothly as a 1977 Rambler with broken motor mounts and a mistimed distributor.

by Glenn Logan on Jan 23, 2008 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Point
A good observation. I would agree with that.
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by davw83 on Jan 23, 2008 4:03 PM EST reply actions  

Stevenson
According to Tom Leach he was.

Im not sure if he was ESPN's POG.

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by davw83 on Jan 23, 2008 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

yeah, Stevenson WAS
actually the POG according to the UK radio people.  It didn't seem like ESPN talked his performance up much (or EVER put the camera on Gillispie whereas the got a Pearl reaction shot after every play, but whatever).  But he DID get much deserved love from the UK folks.  Stephenson's post-game interview was awesome--he talked a bunch about how great playing with PPat was, and called Rupp "magical."  To put it mildly, this endeared him to me just a bit : )

by blue kentucky girl on Jan 23, 2008 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta ...
love that.  I always thought Stevenson was very happy to be a Wildcat, and I am just that more convinced of it now.

by Glenn Logan on Jan 23, 2008 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Latest Trend
We have all put our own spin on the last few games so I will be no different. I have been surprisingly impressed with the heart of this team of late. There was a stretch which may have defined this team and it's coach. The ball gets loose and we've got players diving on the floor and crashing into Vols with no thought for personal safety. Billy Clyde walked the full length of the bench clapping and smiling. Just smiling!!

I saw some apologies on a prediction that UK would beat Florida twice. Don't apologize. Once at Rupp and again in the SEC tourney. That was what you had in mind wasn't it?

I have completely vacated my fetal positioning of the early season and am beginning to walk upright. I could get used to this.

by modcpa on Jan 23, 2008 7:08 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed
The chemistry and passion of this team has so noticeably improved over four games that I have almost forgotten the first couple months of the season (I stress almost).  
On a side note, was anyone else extremely impressed with the press breaker which Bradley passed to Jasper along the baseline, then back to Bradley?  Not only was BCG timimg and creativity on point, but it almost sent a message to the Vols that the Cats will break your press and win this game.  Good stuff.    

by yonder24 on Jan 23, 2008 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

completely agree
loved that play that they ran at the end of the game. and gillispie ran it at the perfect time too. tennessee was definitely not expecting that.
GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Jan 23, 2008 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

that out-of-bounds play
was crazy!  I panicked for a minute because I was all stressed about us pulling out the win and it looked so unconventional.  I don't know if I even remember ever seeing such a thing before.  I do love the fact that coach has got some stuff up his sleeve...even though it scared the shit out of me for a second : )

by blue kentucky girl on Jan 24, 2008 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

That ...
was a nice bit of coaching there.  He ran it twice in a row, and the Vols were unprepared for it both times.

They don't run that enough anymore.  Teams used to run that against UK back during the Pitino years.  I'm not sure why it has fallen out of favor, but Gillispie pulled it out at the right time.

by Glenn Logan on Jan 24, 2008 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I Prefer Any Style That W's
Even Pitino (Louisville) plays a different style than 1990's teams did.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 23, 2008 10:03 PM EST reply actions  

Tru's Take
Once again, Tru proves to be da man when it comes to post game thoughts and analysis.

The Vanderbilt victory isn't even in the same ballpark as the UT win, in my opinion. Not only is UT much better than Vandy, but UK played a much more complete ballgame against UT.

Vandy was a great win because that game signalled the beginning of the "turnaround". We saw for the first time an emergence of an understanding of how to play Clyde's defense.

UT is a season changing win because of their ranking, and the fact that UK played, by far, their best game of the season. That's twice we have said that in the last 4 games. Another good sign.

Stevenson has been showing glimmers of excellence, but Tuesday night he put on his cape.
Although Patterson and Bradley had terrific ballgames, I thought Stevenson was the player of the game for UK. Confidence I think is the key component of his improved play. He is handling and passing the rock much better, Tru I feel hit the nail on the head about the high-low execution betwen Patterson and Stevenson.

All UK fans are aware and have witnessed great passing big men. That attribute can lead to a lot of W's. The new guys aren't Eric Daniels just yet, but a definite improvement has been noted.

I am in the minority on this, but I don't care what style Clyde, or any other coach plays, as long as it's a winning style.

I don't think one can overstate the fact that Bradley was an absolute beast. This is soooo good to see. We have nearly all year bemoaned the fact that Ramel wasn't a leader, couldn't be a leader, won't be a leader, etc, etc. Uhh, I think I am convinced now.

He has lead in a variety of different ways over the last 4-5 games. But mostly his is leading by his improved play. Defensively, ball-handling wise, decision making, he's scoring when UK needs him to, and he is hitting his game clinching free throws.

Locking down Lofton was impresive to watch. UT sets numerous screens for #5, but Bradley fought through, around, under and over most of the screens he was hit with. His energy level was incredible, especially considering he has played every minute of the last 4 games. (save 30 seconds Tuesday)

I like the way Tru articulated Bradley's revival: taking ownership. Bradley has seemingly taken ownership of this team. Tru used the word in describing Ramel's improved play at the lead guard, but I think it extends to all areas of his play and attitude. This is a real opportunity to erase all of the negative feelings people have about his 4 years.

With the amount of minutes some of the players are logging, is anyone other than me a little worrried about them hitting the "wall".

I think this team CAN win a majority of their remaining games. With the continued improvement of Meeks and Jaspers health, these guys will be dangerous, as long as they don't forget their lunch pails when they go to work.

I am happiest for Gillispie. He has seemed happy with the players effort all season, but now he's just glowing about their effort and execution. It must be very satisfying for him, considering all of the butcher jobs he has sat through this year.

 

by Ken Howlett on Jan 24, 2008 1:52 AM EST reply actions  

Yep!
W over style any day and twice on Sunday.

When healthy, this UK team can beat any SEC opponent and compete with ANY opponent!

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 24, 2008 6:54 AM EST reply actions  

Fun
Thats crap. I was and am a total Tubby supporter but I think G's style of play is more fun. It has nothing to do with the tempo.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Jan 25, 2008 9:38 AM EST reply actions  

Opinions vary.
No right or wrong in this debate, you know. :-)

by Glenn Logan on Jan 25, 2008 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Opinions = Snowflakes
No 2 are alike. And they melt when heated.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 25, 2008 7:58 PM EST reply actions  

sorry
Shouldnt have posted so soon but I take exception to the idea that thinking Billy's system is more fun that Tubby's is in anyway a swipe or Tubby or a misunderstanding of game tempo.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Jan 25, 2008 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

Defense wins games
Whether ball-line or pass-deny, man or zone, well-played defense wins games.  Why?  Shooting -- team and individual -- is hot and cold.  A player shoots the ball 10 times in one game and hits 7; the next game, with the same kinds of shots, he's 3 for 10.  Defense can be, should be, consistent.  How well a defense is played is more important than the particular type of defense.  But every defense also has at least one vulnerability.  

Both Tubby and Gillispie are defensive coaches first.  

Tubby's ball-line defense was probably better against teams with good big guys inside, but the pass-deny is better against 3-point shooters.  Pass-deny also requires athletes with quick feet and iron wills.  It's man's work.  Not many freshmen are going to be able to play it to Gillispie's standard.  

As to style, Gillispie's last team at Texas A&M was near the bottom of the conference in 3-point shots taken.  He wants perimeter players to pass the ball inside, but also to take it to the rim at every opportunity.  He likes getting a lot of free throws.  He likes a smothering defense that forces turnovers and bad shots.  He doesn't like quick treys.  There is some similarity to Eddie Sutton here.  

It seems to me that Gillispie's teams will score a lot of points and be exciting if the other team commits a lot of turnovers at mid-court or on the wings.  Otherwise, it's going to be a grind -- relatively low shooting percentages -- lots of free throws.  

Gillispie (as depicted in the media and somewhat self-described) seems to have a single-minded approach to the winning.  It is just a matter of teaching, motivating players to execute one defense and one offense.  The advantage of that approach is that players can concentrate on learning and executing a relatively simple set of tasks very efficiently.  The downside is that the team is predictable; other coaches know what to expect.  

Right now, the relentless single-minded approach looks pretty good.  It also worked pretty well for Coaches Smith and Pitino for 5-6 years.  

Winning requires teaching kids to compete and execute, but it also requires constant adaptations.  It's not about style.  It's about figuring out how to win.    

by Fortunatus on Jan 25, 2008 10:15 PM EST reply actions  

Re: Fortunatus
A agree with everything you wrote except for the low shooting percentage part.

Even this years team shoots the ball pretty well. They are around 48% right now. Not bad, especially ocnsidering some of the personnel that have been logging major minutes.

He likes to run the high-low, which is designed to get open shots on the perimeter, and one-on-one matchups in the paint. If it is executed properly the 'Cats should shoot a pretty decent percentage.

by Ken Howlett on Jan 25, 2008 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

After reviewing my above post...
...I feel it reads like something I would say to my 4 year old.

I am sure you know what type of offense Gillispie favors.

My only point was that I feel his philosophy is conducive to the team making an acceptable percentage of shots.

by Ken Howlett on Jan 25, 2008 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

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