A Sea Of Blue: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:



Sports blogs for fans, by fans.
Around SBN: June USA Today / SB Nation Consensus MMA Rankings Released


BREAKING: Legion to transfer (updated)

Taking into account the source, one would generally doubt the validity of the information, but Jeff Goodman (Tru's homeskillet) is reporting that Kentucky freshman Alex Legion is going to leave the program for parts unknown.

According to Goodman's "source," the issue is not about playing time, but rather about Gillispie.

Who knows.

Ah, the hits just keep on coming.

These mutherscratchers need a win over Indiana like nobody's business.

Update [2007-12-3 22:19:30 by TheFakeGimelMartinez]: Here's the official UK Athletics press release, confirming Legion has been released will be transferring. Thanks to ASoB user shamsway for letting us know.

Update [2007-12-3 22:26:22 by TheFakeGimelMartinez]: Sorry, wrong terminology; The UK Athletics press release says that Alex desires a transfer. Not for sure how this affects his NCAA eligibility and his national letter of intent obligations.

Update [2007-12-3 23:20:20 by Truzenzuzex]:  Great Googly Moogly!  Thanks to BellSouth or AT&T or whoever for trashing my Internet connection for the last 4 hours.  It never fails -- when I am away, Cat-astrophe happens.  I have not even had time to figure out what the heck is happening.  But I will ...

0 recs | Comment 50 comments

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

Legion
I linked this a few minutes ago in the feed comment section.

My thought was even if this turns out to be valid. Legion's departure is a scholarship for Scotty Hopson next season.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Dec 3, 2007 4:49 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think so
You don't release a good player to get another player when there are a lot of them in the team who are worse than Legion.

by khlim2 on Dec 3, 2007 6:26 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not good
Not good, not good, not good.

by Ken Howlett on Dec 3, 2007 4:52 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

crap
this really really would suck if true...
GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Dec 3, 2007 5:00 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Legion
Man, the hits keep on coming. Things probably aren't going according to plan for Gillispie. I'm still looking at the big picture however, and it looks bright.

by GregJ on Dec 3, 2007 5:16 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At this point ...
... the "big picture" to me looks like one of those 3-D sailboat pictures.

I stare and I stare, but all i can see is losses.

The Online home of Big Blue Nation ...

by JL Blue on Dec 3, 2007 5:29 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

3-D
I love those things.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Dec 3, 2007 5:37 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If this isn't true
someone should start a site called FireGoodman.com

by senowen on Dec 3, 2007 5:38 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry...
I meant FireTheTroll.com

by senowen on Dec 3, 2007 5:41 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If this is true.......
One would hope that this doesn't spark another nasty split amongst the fanbase concerning the direction of the team.  Not sure if anyone has noticed but as a group we tend to be a rather paranoid lot.

by wldcatsfreak on Dec 3, 2007 5:43 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Media
Wow they'll jump all over this one.

by GregJ on Dec 3, 2007 5:52 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Something to Think About
Player turnover is not uncommon with a coaching change, but it is unusual for a player the new coach signed to transfer.

But, UK was Legion's second choice behind Michigan.

I remember reading some interesting articles concerning Legion, his mother, and a "trusted adviser".

The "trusted adviser" was intimating Legion would attend school x (I don't remember which school, maybe UCLA). Legion's mother stated that Alex would NOT be attending said school, and the "trusted adviser" should keep his mouth shut.

Anyway, it simply adds an unusual dimension to the situation. There may be a dynamic at work here that we are not aware of.

Whatever the reason, it is not good. Losing 3 of your top 7-8 players can't be painted with a positive brush.

by Ken Howlett on Dec 3, 2007 6:06 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Legion
No one released him. This isnt the NBA.

It's not the best result of the situation.

given my druthers I would like to hang on to Alex but it could open a scholarship for Hopson down the road.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Dec 3, 2007 6:39 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow
I was driving home and caught the tail end of a caller on the Coach Gillispie show say something about a talented player taking a "Greyhound outta town."  I had no clue...

Of course, Legion could end up like all those other malcontents.  He obviously has a problem sticking to his commitments.  He'll find that life isn't always full of second chances.

by chirop1 on Dec 3, 2007 6:48 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The real question
is who we get to pour  holy oil on Patrick Patterson's shoes now?

I actually called in to Matt Jones' show and wondered aloud if Alex's religion -- and specifically, his (priestess!) mother's wishes -- is part of the cause. Lord knows she's probably riled up about all the Merrick Inn stories.

The Online Home of the Big Blue Nation...

by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Dec 3, 2007 7:12 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No clue
I have no idea what the ever-informative Matt Jones added (that's sarcasm, if you didn't get it), but I actually wondered this too.

If he and his mom are super religious, is it possible that something about Coach's demeanor or language or something quite random like that would be a factor?

At this point, with no reason to see why Legion would bail, it's hard to know.

The Online home of Big Blue Nation ...

by JL Blue on Dec 3, 2007 8:00 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The primary reason
...has to be playing time. The ever-helpful Matt Jones said that from the media area, he could hear Legion's mother screaming bad things down to the UK Coaching staff during the UNC game.
The Online Home of the Big Blue Nation...

by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Dec 3, 2007 8:11 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Matt Jones
KentuckySportsRadio is a fantastic blog, but I think they kind of jumped the gun on this one. Yeah, maybe Legion IS gone, but maybe he isn't. As of right now, he thought about leaving, agreed to stay and now has missed one day of practice. Who knows, but there are a lot more rumors than usual flying around that site, like the fact that four more could transfer.

by GregJ on Dec 3, 2007 8:31 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Strike that, reverse it
Jones is on record saying its more about Legion's relationship with Gillispie and less about playing time. So take what I just said and reply with "hey, you're an idiot." :)
The Online Home of the Big Blue Nation...

by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Dec 3, 2007 8:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In other news
FireBilly.com and FireGillispie.com (which redirects to FireBilly) are getting hammered right now.

Damnit, I gotta post! Page views! Potential Page Views!!!! ;)

The Online Home of the Big Blue Nation...

by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Dec 3, 2007 7:21 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Matt Jones
Who I do find relatively informative and reasonably accurate also said

"There are multiple members of this team that arent happy with the way the Coach operates and are considering a transfer"

I've posted on this likelihood on a number of occasions.  Happens all too often with a new coach.  If Legion's mom was truly screaming at Rupp Arena, she would be the first parent to get in the way of their kid's success.  Let her scream somewhere else.

If Bradley and/or Crawford are considering transfer, (and I wouldn't be surprised) I say let them go and we'll rebuild from scratch or should I say Patterson.  Really tired of waiting for these two to play like mature upper classmen.

by run and gun on Dec 3, 2007 8:19 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bradley and Crawford
...would basically be ending their careers if they left, wouldn't they?
The Online Home of the Big Blue Nation...

by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Dec 3, 2007 8:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I suppose that was wishful thinking
as you are correct......had a flashback to Rod Rhodes....seriously, I wish Ramel and Joe nothing but the best in their quest to be what they and we hoped they would be as seniors....no one will cheer louder than me if they do.... I just get a little concerned when seniors continue to play non-senior basketball

by run and gun on Dec 3, 2007 8:50 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Other players
I'll tell you right now that I listened to his entire radio show tonight and was informed of the other players possibly leaving by a caller, he was completely in the dark about it. So I consider that one made up as of now.

by GregJ on Dec 3, 2007 8:33 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The post in question
Was made in the subscription-only forums by an actual writer for KentuckySportsReport.com (aka Scout.com).

But I agree with the points you're making -- nothing yet is official.

The Online Home of the Big Blue Nation...

by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Dec 3, 2007 8:45 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Porter
Its been widely reported that Michael Porter's dad is not very happy with Billy G and has been critical of the coach. Matt could have been thinking about him.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Dec 3, 2007 8:43 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

UH
someone should fix the breaking news feed.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Dec 3, 2007 8:44 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Weakling
I don't think I have the power to do that, else I would have.
The Online Home of the Big Blue Nation...

by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Dec 3, 2007 8:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anything????
Am at work and cannot check for update regularly....is there anything new?  Is the university commenting or is the feeling that these are just doom and gloom rumors from the discontent?  

I have seen where si.com, espn and cbssportsline.com have not even mentioned the smallest blip about the story.

by wldcatsfreak on Dec 3, 2007 9:26 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nothing yet
I think most of the major sites aren't reporting on it yet because nobody can confirm with Legion or his mother yet.
The Online Home of the Big Blue Nation...

by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Dec 3, 2007 9:32 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks
This really sucks!!!

Not terribly deep but seems to sum it up.  

by wldcatsfreak on Dec 3, 2007 9:38 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Courier Journal online reporting

BCG says tonight that he has discussed transfer with Alex but cannot reach himn to confirm or deny his departure - did not attend practice today - not sure if this link will work

by run and gun on Dec 3, 2007 9:37 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Billy Clyde is walking a fine line...
   I understand that Gillispie is trying to establish the work ethic and toughness into this team that gets them to play at the high levels that some of his former teams have played at.  But, when you coach that way, you walk a fine line.  You must be a master psychologist and know when to push and when to pull back and build them up.  I'm not sure Billy Clyde has a good feel for when to pull back and build up.

   The Merrick Inn stories and other talk cannot be helping his relationship with Barnhart.  I think therein lies the reason that a contract has not been signed.  I think Mitch is leaving his options open for cutting ties without a contractual buyout if Billy Clyde embarrasses us off the court.

by ReverendBlue on Dec 3, 2007 10:53 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Which way will we go from here?
I see one of two scenarios for us:
  1. Word gets out about the hellish practices and discontent among the current team and kills our recruiting efforts.  Some more players from the current team defect.  If, indeed, there are others considering leaving, they must be underclassmen (not Crawford or Bradley) because seniors would basically be done for good.  Please don't let Patterson be one of them!  Was that disgusted look on his face at the end of the Carolina game due to the final score or other frustrations?
  2. Legion's discontent is an anomoly rather than the typical feeling of the whole team.  A potential locker room distraction is removed and the rest of the team rallies together with an "us-against-the-world" attitude and buys into Gillispie's system and ways of doing things.  Hopson takes Legion's scholarship and minutes next year and -- along with Liggins, Miller, Patterson, and Meeks -- we finally begin to put "Old UK"-caliber talent on the floor and return to respectability and begin competing for championships again.

by ReverendBlue on Dec 3, 2007 11:04 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sayonara sucka!
Goodbye Alex and we hardly even knew ya!!! This season has really started off with a bang. I for one believe that this could be another Crawford thing. He's gone...now he's back. What's up with these Michigan players? Dual personalities? Cult following? Over hyped? Bad public drinking water? They haved whiffed for UK recently. Maybe the auto industry setbacks have got folks mentally whacked, or it could be the documentary by Feinstien, or whatever his name was with the beard and the glasses, that has them messed up.

One thing is for sure, Coach isn't going to let some mama's boy, wussy on D, stick around long. Coach does such a good job at talking I'm sure if he thought the Legion of Gloom was worth it we'd be discussing something else right now. I don't mean Alex has no ability and will never do well for another team, my point is that Coach probably recognized that Gloomy doesn't fit into the style of team play that he is looking for and therefore a release would be best for both parties. Sure UK takes a hit immediately but supposing this kid is gone then maybe it cuts a knot of problems from forming in the future and sets an example to others that this team doesn't allow selfishness to get in the way of selflessness. BTW didn't this kid also miss a game because he fell asleep at a team meeting? WHEW!

This year is going to be interesting as hell! My only hope for this team is to try and enjoy the ride and get a shot at the NCAA Tourney. Good luck Coach G and thanks for cleaning house and cracking skulls. It's been needed.

by bluecrip on Dec 3, 2007 11:05 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One thing to discuss
Notice how Billy's official statement indicates that the Annette informed the coach that Alex wants a transfer, Alex told coach later that he wanted to stay, but after Saturday's game, things have changed. Matt Jones indicated that during the UNC game, Annette was screaming towards the UK Bench in displeasure. I wonder if the explicit mentioning of Annette's role in Friday's meeting -- which honestly, didn't need to be mentioned to the public -- was an attempt at a parting shot?

You may now stew for the rest of the night; I have a bus to catch.

The Online Home of the Big Blue Nation...

by TheFakeGimelMartinez on Dec 3, 2007 11:17 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

terrible day...
I blame Billy Gillispie and Alex Legion's mother for Alex's leaving UK.  

I understand that Billy Gillispie wants his players to work hard and improve their game.  He rewards those who showed strong practice effort with playing time.  There is nothing wrong with that.  However, I do not believe sacrificing your team's chances of winning a basketball game by sticking to such a strict rule is an intelligent idea.  There is simply no excuse for playing Michael Porter 28 minutes (and get 3 points out of him) and Alex Legion only 6 minutes (he scored 7 points during that span) while your team is trying to come back from a 20 point deficit against the then No. 2 team in the country.  I don't care how hard Michael Porter practiced, when I need offense I am going to play Alex Legion.  After watching the more talented Tarheels kicked our butts, would anyone ever argue against putting more talent on the floor???  Moreover, I would understand if Gillispie bench Alex Legion if he was playing terribly or without energy, but that simply was not the case!

Alex Legion's mother is controlling, so it does not surprise me that she wants her son out of Kentucky because of how little playing time Alex is getting.

The bad news is that this season is going right down the toilet.

The good news is that Gillispie can honestly tell Scotty Hopson that he will be getting 25 or more minutes of playing time per game, and seeing how pathetic UK is going to be, Hopson's mom might actually let his sone come play for UK.

Gillispie probably should be calling Tyrek Evans right now and tell him that he will get 30 minutes a game if he comes to play for UK instead of U of L...

by CincyWildcat on Dec 3, 2007 11:28 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Season going down the toilet?
Maybe the kid was a cancer to the locker room, who knows? Who's to say this won't make us a better team?

Truly, I think this is Legion's loss. He screwed the pooch on this one, could have become great. Exhibit A: Acie Law

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/big12/2007-02-20-aggies-cover_x.htm

by GregJ on Dec 4, 2007 12:04 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh ...
I think we'll be OK.

But we have to be honest -- this is not only a loss to our team, it is embarrassing to have a player leave like this, and it hurts our program's standing and our player's psyche.  To make matters worse, this is yet another blow in a virtual flurry that we have taken lately.

It is up to us fans to pick up the slack.  Nobody else can do it.  This is a fan sport, and we have to stand behind our young men and our athletic program.

by Truzenzuzex on Dec 4, 2007 12:22 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Next year's lineup??
Here's my wish list...

PG - Andre Liggins / Jasper
SG - Jodie Meeks
G/F - Darius Miller
G/F - Scotty Hopson
C - Patrick Patterson

Other players in playing rotation:

   Perry Stevenson, A.J. Stewart, Michael Porter

by ReverendBlue on Dec 3, 2007 11:58 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know this is wishful thinking...but I like it!
Total PT: 200 minutes

PG - Tyreke Evans (25)/ DeAndre Liggins (25)
SG - Jodie Meeks (25)/ Scotty Hopson (25)
F - Darius Miller (25)
F - AJ Stewart (25)/ P.Stevenson (10)
C - Patrick Patterson (30 min)

rest of the team (10)

Even if each player gives us only 10 points, we'd still average 80 points...also, the taller/more athletic guards will help get more rebounds than this year's team...

by CincyWildcat on Dec 4, 2007 12:16 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Evans
This is the first I've heard of this Tyreke Evans. Just took a quick peek on Scout, are we going after him?

by GregJ on Dec 4, 2007 12:23 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Evans
As far as I know UK has never been in on Evans. Pitino is hot after him, but I think he's going to Memphis.

by Ken Howlett on Dec 4, 2007 12:35 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Found this comment
on the back end of a HL article and thought that it was rather poignent:

"IT'S NOT ABOUT TUBBY OR BILLY G,IT'S ABOUT LEGION GIVING UP.AND WHEN YOU GIVE UP YOU LOSE.AS A FORMER SEC PLAYER,IT'S ABOUT DOING THE THINGS YOU GOT TO DO,TO GET WHAT YOU WANT.IT'S ABOUT SACRIFICING,MENTAL TOUGHNESS AND BEING COACHABLE.TO PLAY AT ONE OF THE TOP PROGRAMS IN THE COUNTRY,YOU JUST DON'T LEAVE.THIS JUST TELLS ME THAT,HE'S NOT AROUND THE RIGHT PEOPLE.TONY ROMO HAD TO WAIT,LOOK AT HIM NOW.FANS,COACHES AND PLAYERS NEED TO BE PATIENT.EVERY SEASON BRINGS A DIFFERENT PERSONALITY.BOTTOM LINE,HE'S YOUNG AND DON'T HAVE THE REAL SUPPORT HE NEEDS AND THAT SADDENS ME.IT'S MY WISH THAT THE TEAM FOCUS ADJUST THEIR FILTERS.IT'S ABOUT THE INTANGIBLES NOW AS UK MOVES FORWARD.LAST,I COMMEND COACH FOR NOT GIVING IN,THAT WOULD BE THE WORSE THING TO DO.PLAYERS PLAY,COACHES COACH.I DO WISH LEGION WELL. "

We all wish him well. Wish him well, go away.

by bluecrip on Dec 4, 2007 1:04 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

More defections?
Hey, if Carter and the big English guy leave, that just opens up more scholarships for Gillispie to bring in recruits.  In my mind, that speeds up the turnaround.

by ReverendBlue on Dec 4, 2007 7:00 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I actually ...
doubt Williams will leave.  And I think Williams can contribute, but not much this year.

by Truzenzuzex on Dec 4, 2007 7:32 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

An exciting community-driven SBNation blog, by and for fans of the Kentucky Wildcats.

Community Guidelines
[UPDATED 3/31/2009]
Start posting about the Wildcats »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

100521b_the-scales-of-justice-posters_small
Former College Athletes Suing EA and NCAA, Right On
Uk_vs_uofl_small
Summing up UK bball (apparently)
Chris__pics_12-21-2008_040_small
Coach K to the Lakers?? Come On...
Small
Offering scholarship to 13-year old ...
Small
1x1 video analysis with a college coach!
Small
MLB Players Target Of Lawsuit
2t-3ds-fbspin2_kentucky_240x240_small
Jarmon Likely to Be Taken in Supplemental Draft
Small
Big Blue Madness at Commonwealth
Uk_logo_blue_small
NEW UK T-Shirt
Banners_small
Misc thought of the day: The open scholarship.

Post_icon New FanPost All FanPosts Carrot-mini

Twitter Widget -- Follow me!


Managing Editor

Tru_small Truzenzuzex

Editor

Small Ken Howlett

Author

Diane-black_heels_small BigSkyCat

Official Partner of CBS Sports