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Kentucky Football: Dragging sportswriters kicking and screaming to face reality

The times, they are a changin'.

For many years, Kentucky fans have had to put up with condescension from fan bloggers at other schools and comments from sportswriters that demean our football team and by extension, our university.  Of course, it's hard to make a snappy comeback to a "you guys suck at football" when it happens to be true.

But not this year.  Now, don't misread me -- I am not going to beat my chest too much here for a couple of reasons.  The first one is that one or even two years of improvement does not make us the historical equal of the Great Powers in SEC football.  Anyone who thinks it does is simply mistaken, or overzealous.  We must own up to the reality of our situation, and that has been that we haven't been a good football team.  This year, we are.

I can't really blame pundits, bloggers and sportswriters for being reluctant to jump on the Kentucky bandwagon.  I remember back when Louisville began to significantly upgrade their program, and make no mistake, the same thing happened to them.  Now, they are having a down year, but the reality is that the Louisville program is no longer a joke, or irrelevant.  They may not play in the toughest football conference in the land, but when you see USF sitting up there at #2 in the nation, you can't deny the Bulls, and by extension the Big East, legitimacy if we are going to demand it for ourselves.

Speaking of legitimacy, by defeating LSU in Lexington in the biggest upset since the 1964 Ole Miss game, we have won over the vast majority of the fans of college football.  Of course, there are a few holdouts who can't see past the last 30 years of futility and still think we are a flash in the pan, but those who follow the college game closely are beginning to realize that Kentucky is special this year.  You don't beat a team like LSU anywhere without having some serious quality in your program, especially since there were no game-changing calls or injuries, except one -- Rafael Little being absent.  That makes success against the Tigers all the more notable.

I thought I would look around and provide a few links to illustrate what I am talking about:

And it wasn't like USC's loss to Stanford and Cal losing to Oregon State, both of which were at home, by the way. LSU lost to a quality, ranked opponent, on the road - in TRIPLE OVERTIME!

Of course, there are holdouts (there always are, aren't there?) who just refuse to drink the "Kentucky deserves to be here" Kool-aid.  First, and perhaps most predictably, is The Loathsome Troll Jeff Goodman.  TLTJG knows that out-and-out dissing Kentucky is a credibility-loser for him, so he goes the route of LSU apologist, blaming the loss on Matt Flynn:

Sure, the Kentucky defense did an admirable job and put pressure on Flynn. But it didn't matter. Flynn wasn't going to get it done even if the Wildcats defense had to yell out, "One Mississippi, two Mississippi, three Mississippi!" before crossing the line of scrimmage.

Whatever. I suppose, as Goodman articles go, this is pretty benign, and perhaps there a bit of me looking for something bad to say about him because, well, you know why. But anyway.

And the next one is Trev Alberts of CSTV.   I give Alberts credit -- he really does try to drink the Kool-aid, but he just can't seem to swallow it, so he also turns into an LSU apologist:

But you have to be proud of the Kentucky defense and I think Matt Flynn missed more than a few receivers and the Tigers had their fair share of drops. They didn't complete the kind of passes they needed to. It has to be frustrating because LSU has talent and the defense wasn't quite as dominating as we thought they'd be.

I suppose saying that Kentucky's offense was just more than LSU had faced all year, or noting the fact that LSU has been dropping the football all year long was just too much for him. Or maybe he really just doesn't follow games closely enough to know that Early Doucet and Richard Dixon are the only truly reliable pair of hands on the LSU team, and one of them was out of the game.

Yes, Flynn threw a couple of bad balls, but at least 5 hit the receivers in areas where they should be caught -- except, as I say, they haven't been catching them all year (Update [2007-10-15 14:2:48 by Truzenzuzex]:  I know I have it right when SMQ says the same thing).  I guess when you are a quarterback like that, you get all the heat regardless of reality.  But the truth is that Kentucky was in Flynn's grille all day long, and nobody throws really well under all that pressure.  You want to blame somebody?  Blame the offensive line, who was expected to dominate the UK defensive line.  Didn't happen.

I give Alberts credit for a good effort, though.  Sometimes, ingrained perceptions are hard to change.

Update [2007-10-15 13:37:44 by Truzenzuzex]:  Here is a nice post from a blog I have never run across before.  He makes some very sound points from a relatively non-partisan point of view.

Update [2007-10-15 15:17:32 by Truzenzuzex]:  Can this guy be serious?  UT vs. 'Bama the "best rivalry in all of college sports?"   ** Sigh **

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Odd....
...but it really is the oposite of SEC basketball. We know the UTs and LSUs will pop up and will go away and time will tell if FLA stays. (I would lay smart money on yes there)

We are just in new waters. Not unlike the Gators in basketball. Learning more about the game and how to react on the top floor.

I can recall Gatorpilot and other Football school guys calming us and letting us know to chill and wait that we had good coaching and players.

The media however, like to drink any anti-UK kool-aid whenever possible. I LOVE LOVE LOVE how, for the whole state and athletic programs, that this is happening on the heels of the neg press of "runnin Tubby out" and the positive press Billy G has created. Just what the doctor ordered.

by wilson452 on Oct 15, 2007 12:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Goodman and Cont Success
Goodman has no credibilty whatsoever. I dont buy into the sports analysts who cover multiple sports. It's like Mark Story or John Clay. I like most of their pieces but wouldnt give their opinion much weight.

On Continued Success. While we arent yet a perennial top SEC team and may never reach that level I do see the beginnings of some reason to expect success in the future. Next season may not be as great as this one (obviously) BUT it's clear that Brooks is laying the foundation of a successfull program, not just a two year flash in the pan. The improvement and depth of our lines and non skilled positions are evident and if these keep improving UK can expect success in the future even when we lose the Little's and Woodson's.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Oct 15, 2007 12:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Right on
On this topic, I know it is way early and it may be some of that old school "the balloon is going to break at some point" feeling I fight off after every game, but exactly what do we look like next year? (players and what we know of the schedule)

Curtis is a great athlete but stepping right in...?
I keep seeing during games the names making plays on the whole are not really seniors. We do have a great deal of skill and leadership leaving but I can't help but feel like Brooks has slowly and steadily laid the ground work to get off the doormat and at least be taken seriously year-in-year-out and have pop-up seasons from time to time.

What I see that makes me happy is that Brooks will leave this program as an attractive job for some hot stud at the time. Almost like the quite structural engineer that makes it possible for the hot shot architect to guide the right construction crew to a glorious building.

by wilson452 on Oct 15, 2007 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Flash In The Pan
Is Kentucky a flash in the pan? Two indications are:
  1. Does UK get a good recruiting class? If they can't attract outstanding talent this year, it's an uphill battle.
  2. Do the assistant coaches stick around? This year will be good for their resumes. If several leave it says something about the future at UK.
So what about Florida? Gatorpilot thinks it will be a cakewalk for the Gators. Not so fast.
Earlier in the year the talking heads were disrespecting Florida's defense. After the Mississippi game they noted the lack of a pass rush and the young DB's were being beaten. Eventually these problems will be solved but when? If Florida allows Woodson to stand in the pocket like he's standing in his living room, it's going to be a long day for the Gators. But maybe Urban Meyer has solved those problems.
LSU beat Florida by getting physical with them. They ran it down their throats. They tried that against UK in the fourth quarter and overtime, it didn't work. The reason Hester wasn't in to run the ball on the final play was he had limped off the field. I believe it was Micah Johnson who hit him and he had to leave also. I apologize for a remark I made about Woodson being soft. One thing we all know now is they aren't soft. Hint UK, don't make it a finesse game, hit them hard and often.
To defend against the Florida offense is going to be difficult. Unlike LSU, The Gators can pass as well as run. UK bend but don't break, make them kick FG's. Wouldn't be surprised to see both teams score more than forty without overtime. Should be entertaining.
If UK is to have a chance to win the SEC East, they must win. If not both South Carolina and Florida will have tiebreakers on them. Maybe Tennessee has the best chance to win the SEC East. They have Florida behind them (loss) and don't play LSU. Their fate is in their own hands.

by 58Fan on Oct 15, 2007 1:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My biggest worry
is the assistants.

Joker may need some more time but QB coach Sanders is hot.

However, if they really look at it, they have a good chance to just take over when Brooks leaves. I don't see it in two or three years but four or five and he may head to the house.

by wilson452 on Oct 15, 2007 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re My Biggest Worry
Brooks is 66. The retirement age use to be 70. I know they made Rupp retire. The coaches know the situation best. When coaches leave it says something about the future whether they can be replaced with good people or not. Sometimes they leave for better jobs, sometimes to get off a sinking ship. Hopefully the coaching situation is stable. IMO

by 58Fan on Oct 15, 2007 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sanders
Sanders is hot as a QB coach BUT everyone will remember his last stint as an OC.

Im not too worried about losing the assistants.

I think Mitch will open up the pocketbook for all the coaching staff at the end of the season Brooks included.

Joker has to see that he has an inside shot of becoming head coach once Brooks is gone. Steve Brown needs at least one more year of defensive improvement to land a really high quality job and Sanders and fam are from Knoxville and I just dont see them moving any further away. He was an asssistant at UT for 20 years.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Oct 15, 2007 3:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd ...
be surprised if we don't lose one of them fairly soon.

by Truzenzuzex on Oct 15, 2007 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A victory yes a dynasty know
Let's dont get carried away. It was a win against the number 1 team.  It took three OT's and a home field advantage.

Play this game two more times - once at LSU and once on a neutral field.

Do you really think the Wildcats  win all three?

by Blue Seas on Oct 15, 2007 3:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No ...
but one out of three ain't bad against a team like LSU.

by Truzenzuzex on Oct 15, 2007 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Finally
 a voice of reason finally

by Blue Seas on Oct 15, 2007 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who is getting carried away?
I am floored we won and would be floored if we end up 8-3.

I say we are finally making REAL advances. Not dink and dunk smoke and mirrors like Mumme and better tallent than Claiborne. I think we are leaving the Vandy station and docking close to UGA level. We will have our peak years and shock some teams but we will not be a doormat. I don't think that is carried away.

This thread has been very solid with more questions than proclimations.

by wilson452 on Oct 15, 2007 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carried Away
Who's getting carried away?
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Oct 15, 2007 4:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

More Ohio State BS
Are those people slick or what? Last year they got whathisname the Heisman Trophy. Does anyone believe he was even close to being the best college football player? Then they got themselves in the national championship game and got stomped by Florida. Does anyone believe they were even close to being one of the two best teams? Give them credit they know how to work the system. Big Ten football is inferior to the way its played in the South and West.
So here we go again, they've positioned themselves again and IMO are the most likely team to get to the championship game. The question is which team will be chosen to stomp them this year? The Big Ten people are master politicians. The BCS continues to serve them. We need a playoff, but it won't happen until the havenots of college football demand it. After all they are the majority.

by 58Fan on Oct 15, 2007 4:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Playoff
Good article. What's needed is a compromise saving the bowl system while deciding the national champion on the field. In a sixteen team seeded playoff there would be fifteen games. Grandfather the 15 top bowls in for say ten years. One year the semi-final games could be played at the Orange and Sugar Bowls with the final at the Rose Bowl. If the lesser teams want to play in the lesser bowls sobeit. In the end the money situation would be the same or better. As far as revenue I'd think a NCAA football playoff would dwarf the basketball tournament. How about a playoff beginning with 8 games on Thanksgiving weekend (Thu,Fri,Sat) with the championship game on New Years Day? The fans would go crazy.

by 58Fan on Oct 16, 2007 5:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

UT-Bama
that someone would actually think that's the best rivalry in all of college sports is beyond absurd. i'm not sure there's a word for it...we should make one up. I guarantee you ask any Alabama fan who their biggest rival is, they all say Auburn.
GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Oct 15, 2007 6:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was ...
what I was told last time I was by the Capstone.  I think I have heard that Alabama-Auburn was the biggest rivalry game in the entire SEC somewhere.

In fact, I thought they had a name for that game -- "Iron Bowl", I believe it was.

When games have names, they are big.  I have never heard a name for the Alabama-UT game.

by Truzenzuzex on Oct 15, 2007 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's called....
The Third Saturday in October, officially.  Doesn't matter, you'd have to be dense to think that it's more important to them than the Iron Bowl.
Go Big Blue and let's go 'Canes!

by tmed on Oct 15, 2007 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well ...
I guess that counts.  I wonder how I could have overlooked that?  

Probably because I am not a UT or 'Bama fan, and that game just never has stood out to me as a rivalry on the order of Alabama-Auburn or, Florida vs. Georgia, or Florida vs. Florida State, or even Auburn vs. Georgia.

by Truzenzuzex on Oct 16, 2007 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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