Guarding John Jenkins on the Perimeter
Sometimes life just converges in a nicely satisfying way. On Saturday Kentucky beat Vanderbilt in a terrific game. In the game thread and later in the Vandy DSS I (and others) noted how well Doron Lamb did chasing John Jenkins around the floor and in particular doing a pretty good job of not giving him many open looks from the perimeter. Then on Monday Glenn posted some thoughts about a series of posts that Ken Pomeroy made last week regarding the impact that defenses have on opponents' ability to take and make 3 point field goals.
While doing the video review for the DSS I was even more impressed by how active Lamb was in chasing Jenkins, fighting through screens to stay with him, and generally making sure that the SEC's leading scorer could never get multiple open looks in the game. Lamb didn't do this alone - he occasionally got some help defense from teammates to help slow Jenkins down until he could catch up to him and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist was charged with guarding Jenkins when Lamb was on the bench or at times when Kedren Johnson was in the game (Lamb then guarded Johnson while MKG was on Jenkins). Lamb got the primary assignment though: 95% of the time he was the guy defending one of the best shooters in the country.
It would be tempting to say that Lamb had a bad defensive game - Jenkins did score 18 points and shoot 44.4% (4 of 9) on his threes. But a lot of what Lamb did so well was in preventing shots - an aspect of defense that is more difficult to account for systematically, even for something like the DSS. That's what I want to highlight here.
What I did was watch the Vandy game again, this time keeping my eye on Jenkins when the Commodores were on offense. I took screen grabs of every 3 point FG he attempted as well as every time he received the ball on the perimeter in a number of typical shooting situations - coming off screens, in transition, or curling around after cutting along the baseline. The purpose is to give you some idea of how tightly (or not) Kentucky was able to play him throughout the game.
This first picture shows each of Jenkins' 9 three point attempts as close as I could get to when he started to take each one. I've outlined in the blue the attempts when Lamb was the defender as well as kept a running tally of Jenkins' overall shooting after each shot. You can see that in the first half Jenkins only took 2 shots and missed both and each time a different UK player came out to contest the shot. The only really bad bit of defense by Lamb came on the first make of the game, when Doron went under a screen by Steve Tchiengang allowing a wide open look. It's hard to convey using still images, but the Cats were very active and alert at identifying where Jenkins was on the floor at all times and not letting him get a good look at the basket.
This picture is the one that I think is most interesting: it shows what happened immediately after each time Jenkins received the ball coming off a screen, in transition, or cut along the baseline and curled around to the perimeter but didn't attempt a shot. I've once again outlined in blue the times when Lamb was the defender.
A few things are striking from these plays. First, there was a big adjustment by the Commodores between halves: they ran Jenkins off a lot more screens in the second half and made a more concerted effort to get him the ball in those situations. Second, you can see that Lamb was right on him in 8 of the 11 plays. Notice how often Jenkins is in a shooting position - a few are ball fakes but many times he looked like he really wanted to shoot immediately, but was dissuaded from doing so by the proximity of a Wildcat defender. Most of the time that defender was Doron Lamb.
I would estimate that Lamb prevented Jenkins from attempting at least 2-3 three point shots just by sticking to him through screens. That might have been the difference between Jenkins scoring 18 points and scoring 24 and giving this game a very different look in the final minutes.
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Nice work
It confirms what I saw during the game. I believe you underestimate the number of 3 attempts by Jenkins that Lamb denied by sticking tightly to him. Again, I think this was Lamb’s best defensive effort as a Cat, and one that was sorely needed because Cal needed MKG to defend Taylor.
I hedged on the conservative side
Just because Jenkins might have been open I don’t know that he would have automatically taken the 3 – time and score would have some impact too. A couple of times Jenkins wasn’t open immediately but then dribbled around a bit and eventually took a shot, so some of those possessions did ultimately end up with him taking a shot, just not right after the screen.
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Agree 100%
Also, Great work, JLev. Really first class.
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by Glenn Logan on Feb 29, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Much Better Than Gators
Doing tonight, Jenkins with 3 3’s in first half, up 9.
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yeah, he's been getting open or just a bit of daylight - that's all he needs.
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he doesn't even really need that.
You could probably tackle him to the ground, sit on his hands, and he would still launch and hit nothing but net. SMH. It’s remarkable, or lucky, but probably the former.
30-27 Vandy Half
Jenkins 4-4 11 points, Walker 10 for Gators.
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Yep,
Jenkins has it going tonight. And Florida doesn’t have a “Lamb” to put on him so it just makes you appreciate even more what Doron did last Saturday.
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Terrific work JLev.
In my view, Lamb is a much, much better defender than he was last year, or even earlier this season. With him it’ll all about effort, and he’s been giving great effort over the last few months on the defensive end.
Again, thanks for the great stuff, JLev
Thanks Ken!
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Anthony Davis says, "Just bring'em to me, I ain't letting nobody score"......
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Feb 29, 2012 12:05 AM EST reply actions
Heh
There’s a play on the Statue of Liberty quote there somewhere.
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your tired, poor, huddled masses longing to be free.......
sounds like the rest of the SEC……lol
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Feb 29, 2012 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
And also a good example of how going back to look at the pictures...
..helps to clarify the numbers. Like Cal said Friday “stats idict, the tape convicts!”. You put in a lot of work doing just that, and it shows in the results. Good stuff — thanks for sharing.
Thanks Dan
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Doron doesn't get
the recognition he deserves for playing defense. His offensive game has never come into question, however, his defensive efforts are seldom mentioned. Keep up the great work, Doron.
Just another example of the effort and talent level of this team. Slow starts at times have been our only weakness. When TJ and Darius play the game…..this team is very, very good…..I reserve the right to call them great. 11 games left to play!
Good work, JL. Go BIG Blue!
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Thanks seattlekat
I’m not sure what to think of Lamb overall defensively. I think this game was probably on the high side of what he can do because I’ve seen several more where he doesn’t chase his man as effectively as he did Jenkins. However, if he can put forth this kind of effort consistently it will be a boost for the team as it can free up MKG to guard someone else.
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Last night
Dykes apparently was able to time Jenkins’ release of his shot in the game with Florida last night. Dykes held his phone up to the camera and showed 0.6 seconds from the time Jenkins caught the ball until it was out of his hands on the shot. Dykes said Jenkins averaged 0.7-.08 seconds. Not sure where he gets his information, but that is quick.
Dakich should have watched the Vandy-Florida game. He said that Jordan Hulls of Indiana has the quickest release on shots in basketball. Dakich would really benefit from watching games outside the Big 10 before he makes his statements. He also said the two Zellers are the quickest big men in college basketball from end to end (as pointed out by another poster); he really should watch Davis. That way he wouldn’t come off as complete an idiot.
you don't understand jdog......Dakich likes being ignorant......lol
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Feb 29, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
Interesting
I expect that Dykes info comes either from coaches or ESPN’s stat department. I’m not sure if Hulls has a quicker release than Jenkins or not, but they are probably both so quick that any difference is of little practical significance.
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Dakich
Heard exactly what you heard. I was on the treadmill and stumbled from giggling too hard.
Dykes gets a great deal of deserved grief, but I give him credit last night for saying how bad the Pac12 is this year. He went so far to say that Colonial Conference should get more bids than the Pac12. Even though it is correct, in the world of sports it takes a bit of courage to say it.
However, he didn’t mention Colorado and they could win the PAC12 bid. They are pretty good this year and trending upwards.
by darkandbloody@gmail.com on Feb 29, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Excellent Content!
I’m a long time lurker, but had to sign in to compliment this post. In the heat of watching a game it can be so hard to catch these little defensive things. I love the snapshots!
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Glad you like it!
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Leap Day In UK BB History
KSR takes a look at the “extra days” through the years.
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That tidbit from the Kernel is fun
The Carolina squad, made up largely of veterans, is a smooth running machine, which combines an excellent dribbling offense with an accurate basket attack. The Cat defense judged as the best part of the conference, could not cope with the dribbling of McDonald, Carmichael, Cobb and – we might as well say the entire Tarheel squad.
There is something about old time sports writing that I just love. This year’s Cats definitely have an “accurate basket attack”
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Brilliant Work
Simply brilliant.
Harking back to the MSU game and Coach blaming Lamb for digging down inappropriately ( that sounds like something father whacked me for doing in church back in Paducah) I didn’t see/recall Lamb doing that against Jenkins. JL, does your review bear that out?
by darkandbloody@gmail.com on Feb 29, 2012 1:18 PM EST reply actions
yes
Although I don’t show it, Lamb very rarely left Jenkins, even when the ball went inside on his side of the floor. I can only think of a few instances when it happened and even then Lamb never was never further than about 6-7 feet from his man.
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Vandy Fan response
Very informed and detailed work. Very nicely done.
Lamb’s defense on Jenkins was the best I’ve seen anyone play on him this year. Teams have tried to focus on Jenkins but at various times lost focus and Jenkins burned them. Those who watched the VU-FLA game last night know exactly what I mean by that. There were 2 or 3 times when JJ shot open 3s. That did not happen once for Lamb and a lot of credit should go to him and Cal for making that happen.
Lamb also did not go up on JJ’s pump fakes. JJ frequently gets guys in the air with a shot fake, leading to a quick side step dribble and open shot. Lamb stayed down to his credit.
I will say that I thought JJ played a relatively poor offensive game for him, and was forcing shots in a way he normally does not. You could tell that he was trying to step up for the big game and got outside of what he normally does well. He did a bit better job of playing within himself later on, but still forced things more than he should. As an aside, I also thought Ezeli was really pressing early and settled down to play much better later on. I expect that if UK and Vandy play in the SECT Final, its going to be another very closely fought tough game.
But getting back to the original post, again, very well done. And yes, Lamb played the best defense of anyone on Jenkins this year.
Thanks for the comments
You would know much better than I how this game compared to all the others Vandy has played and I appreciate your thoughts. While I would just as soon not see Vandy again, the next time would only come in the SEC Finals, I could live with that, regardless of the result. They have certainly given Kentucky the most problems this year.
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Great stuff
One of the qualitative things I see from Lamb is I think he’s a much better off-the-ball defender than on-ball. By that, I mean that if his man isn’t trying to take Lamb one-on-one off the dribble, Lamb generally does a pretty good job of shadowing him (like the Jenkins example). It’s where Lamb is forced to start defending on-ball action where his defense suffers.
Or my eyes could just be deceiving me.
I think there is a lot of truth to that
Jenkins was able to score against Lamb fairly effectively, so the DSS grade (which is results based) for Lamb was not very good – but his good defense manifested in the ways you mentioned.
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