NO! NO! NO! … NOT "Salesman" – Promoter!
[If it helps put this post in perspective, imagine I'm channeling my 1st grade teacher, Mrs. Hoeback, bless her soul, and have manifested a stern though entirely false British accent as you read this. ‘;-)]
Yesterday, Glenn posted a good article (Click Here) about Calipari not getting his just accolades for his ability to successfully coach up the carousel of one-n-done freshman who annually dominate the teams he puts on Kentucky’s court. And, not surprisingly, I agree.
The idea promulgated by his hecklers that Cal may be a great recruiter but not a supremely talented coach is a clear injustice. The concept that he merely rolls the ball onto the court and lets them have at it is just ridiculous and says more about the people who voice such rhetorical garbage than it impugns Calipari. By itself, this type of defamation constitutes a part of the low level derisive background jeering that all public figures must breast. One of our roles as Kentucky’s fans is to correct the public record and constantly counter this type of micro-slur in the public debate to assure Cal’s image (as well as that of the Kentucky program) does not suffer the burden of a metaphorical death by a thousand tiny malignant cuts. And, as can be attested to by the vast majority of both local and national sports media, we’re darn good at it!
One of the problems I’ve noticed, however, is that we Kentucky fans sometimes inadvertently validate some portion of this rhetoric of small slights that Cal is heir to by allowing some of the mocking vocabulary to leak into our descriptive discussion of our own coach. An example of this is how Cal is routinely depreciated as more of a "salesman" than a great coach. Clearly this portrayal is in the exact same vein as the libel Glenn seeks to debunk in his post, but in the comments section of that same post, I noticed a couple of our fans fell into a semantics trap by using the term "Salesman" to label Calipari.
In the fullest and strictest sense, he is not a "salesman." And, when we fans use that term to label him, you’re shortchanging Cal by adopting and disseminating the pejorative characterization used by his detractors who seek to portray him in a shady and thereby less than savory fashion. Encarta Dictionary defines ‘Salesman’ as - "A man who sells goods or services, either in a store or by contacting potential customers" – In a stereotypical cultural context, often subliminally paired with the loaded adjective ‘Slick,’ the term ‘salesman’ frequently has a negative connotation, as in the individual who preys on a naïve individual by convincing them to buy something they don’t need and wouldn’t normally want, often at an exorbitant price they can’t afford, e.g., "He could sell ice to Eskimos."
Individuals who attempt to defend their use of the term ‘Salesman’ point to the recruiting component of a college coach’s job, but they are wrong, imo. To ‘sell’ implies the reciprocal action ‘buy or purchase’ and when someone buys something they are taking possession/ownership and, in effect, separating the purchase from the seller in some manner – and that’s not what happens in the college recruiting process. What college recruiters, in general, and Calipari, in particular, does is to ‘Promote’ UK’s athletic program to the prospect and invite him to join with Cal in becoming a member of the team, rather like an evangelist seeking converts, though Lord knows, in the secular castes of our society, the term ‘Missionary’ carries no small amount of its own baggage.
So, imo, if you have to use a term other than ‘Recruiter,’ the appropriate term is ‘Promoter.’ In addition to abjuring the negative connotations of an inappropriate label, using the term ‘Promoter’ has the added benefit of allowing his wildly successful recruiting activities to be seen as just another aspect of what makes John Calipari so tremendously successful in general - He is a consummate promoter. He’s constantly promoting - promoting himself, the University of Kentucky, its athletic programs, his coaching staff, the team, his players, his opponents, the SEC, his friends, his wife, his charities, Orange Leaf frozen yogurt, etc., etc., etcetera.
Encarta Dictionary defines ‘Promoter’ as: "1. someone who arranges and advertises events. Someone whose job is to arrange and advertise concerts and sports events; 2. Someone who tries to get support for an issue. Someone who tries to make people support an idea or issue; 3. Someone who tries to make a product popular. Someone who tries to make a product or institution more popular; 4. Someone who helps to start a new company. Someone who helps to start a new company or project."
But the best way to see how appropriate the term ‘Promoter’ fits what Calipari does is to read Encarta’s list of synonyms for the word: "Organizer, Agent, Sponsor, Advocate, Supporter, Publicist, Marketer, Developer, Backer, Advertiser, PR person." – Not "Salesman." ';-)
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Nice.
Sometimes the little things really do matter. I think your point is well made.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
I think Cal comes off as a salesman but then
We see he is promoting. We see it because we love UK, but others on the outside looking in fail to see the bigger blue picture.
On a side, my daughter likes Orange Leaf so much, her staff gives her gift cards often. She got about $100 worth for Christmas alone. That is a lot of Orange Leaf!
Also, I just realized that I have no idea about other school’s coaches when it comes to being ’Promoters" of local companies. Does K, Roy, Billy D, to name a few, appear in ad after ad on local TV like Cal, Joker, Matthew and many before them have done? I am a Kentucky product and assumed it was the norm.
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
Wouldn't appearing in local commercials
as a celebrity be more of a “pitchman”? Help, I need clarification!
Making waves in a sea of blue.
Pitchman. I guess that is better
But Orange Leaf promos are pure salesman, since he bought into the company. Right? And I am always getting texts from Cal for discounts and promos around town, on food and all kinds of things. You can’t tell me he isn’t upping sales FOR THEM! ’-) Profitable promoter.
I need more clarification too! I’m totally confused.
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
I had a whole comment. It disappeared,
And posted the subject line twice! Weird.
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
a2d2, ...
As far as I know, all D1 coaches do commercials if they can; a few years ago there was a Guitar Hero commercial that included coaches Roy Williams, Mike Krzyzewski, Rick Pitino, and Bob Knight all in the same spot (Click Here). Here’s a TV spot with Billy Donovan that’s currently appearing on Fox Sports (Click Here).
The idea isn’t whether coaches in general or Calipari in particular personally promote commercial products in the public media or even if they are actually hands-on hawking books and CDs down on the corner, it’s the fact that the term "Salesman" has some baggage attached to it in this culture and when we use it in the public debate to label our coach, even as we seek to defend him, it detracts from our message by effectively adopting, and thereby validating, a portion of the negative rhetoric his critics are employing to defame him.
To utilize an extreme example to illustrate my point, it’s as though Boeheim said, "That child molester Bernie Fine is a darn good man." If your goal is to defend the man and lend your support in the most effective manner, you avoid using a term that may have loaded meanings or derogatory connotations to the audience you are addressing.
Thanks TW.
I remember the Guitar Hero commercial well. I guess I was more wondering if local companies use coaches like they do in Kentucky. Endorsements are a huge part for a UK coach and I have no idea if they are as big on Tobacco Road, Syracuse to name a few, Do local car dealerships make special edition “Coach” vehicles in other towns or are Kentucky companies running with everything they can because we are the BBN? That is more what I am wondering?
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
a2d2, I believe so, though I don't actually see the 'local' product and company endorsements, ...
of all these coachs. I know Billy Donovan did local product and company endorsements and appearances in and arround Huntington, WVa when he was coach at Marshall. And, I know Roy Williams did local promotions in and around Lawrence, Kansas when he was there. Some of this is encouraged and directly linked to business community outreach by the various university athletic programs. Some of it is even part of the compensation package contributed by booster organizations like the UKAA. But most of it is just big time coachs cashing in on their celebrity status any way they can.
By way of example, here is Mike Krzyzewski’s agent webpage listing of the type of endorsement and engagement availability (Click Here).
a2d2, ...
As far as I know, all D1 coaches do commercials if they can; a few years ago there was a Guitar Hero commercial that included coaches Roy Williams, Mike Krzyzewski, Rick Pitino, and Bob Knight all in the same spot (Click Here). Here’s a TV spot with Billy Donovan that’s currently appearing on Fox Sports (Click Here).
The idea isn’t whether coaches in general or Calipari in particular personally promote commercial products in the public media or even if they are actually hands-on hawking books and CDs down on the corner, it’s the fact that the term "Salesman" has some baggage attached to it in this culture and, because it is being used by his hecklers to depreciate his accomplishments, when we use it in the public debate to label our coach, even as we seek to defend him, it detracts from our message by effectively adopting, and thereby validating, a portion of the negative rhetoric his critics are employing to defame him.
To utilize an extreme example to illustrate my point, it’s as though Boeheim said, "That child molester Bernie Fine is a darn good man." If your goal is to defend the man and lend your support in the most effective manner, you avoid using terms that may have loaded meanings or derogatory connotations to the audience you are addressing.
Sorry about the double post, ...
I don’t know what happened. smh.
Don't Disparage Salesman
You can use whatever term you wish but the fact is that nothing in this world happens until someone sells something. More to the point, David Ogilvy, perhaps the father of modern advertising, stated:
"In the modern world of business, it is useless to be a creative original thinker unless you can also sell what you create. Management cannot be expected to recognize a good idea unless it is presented to them by a good salesman."
It’s about closing the deal, promotion only prepares the way.
"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
WW, …
Absolutely agree.
And in effect we are being that "Good Salesman" of Ogilvy’s when we craft our message supporting Cal with an eye toward avoiding the same pejorative terms that his detractors sneer to describe him.
Or, as KansasUKCat suggeted below, ...
“Used Car.”
Speaking as one of the people in this world who make their living as a "salesman" I find
that disparaging the term “salesman” is offensive. I wrote that term because I respect the premise. Try earning a living as one, and you will see that it is one of the only true “pay for play” careers out there. You don’t work as a “salesman” you don’t eat.
My reference to the same for Calipari was done not just respecting him, but by a feeling of mutual understanding. If he doesnt work, he doesnt eat……and a whole lot of the BBN will go off their feed too.
I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!
by Greg Alan Edwards on Feb 2, 2012 9:21 AM EST reply actions
Greg, …
I went to a lot of trouble to avoid calling out individuals or insulting you. That you are still offended is unfortunate but essentially irrelevant to the facts and the facts are, any time there is a problem with a company’s product or service, the negative emotional backblast, rightly or wrongly, more times than not, falls on the salesman, even without counting the number of times the salesman actually was the problem.
As a result, even you, as the most fervent supporter of the iconic Willy Lowman, didn’t try to refute the idea that the term ‘Salesman’ can carry significant negative connotations in this culture. Or, that when one of Cal’s critics disparages him as being a ‘salesman’ rather than a great coach, the barb is effective because of how a large fraction of people viscerally respond to the term ‘Salesman.’
I’d be willing to bet anytime you meet a person for the first time, and they ask you what you do, you respond, "I work for XYZ," or, "I’m in sales." Not, "I’m a salesman." Or if you do, it’s with an eye watchful for any negative response and a readiness to crush any overt disapproval with your razor wit and staunch moral rectitude.
But that’s not really the point, … The point is, If Cal’s critics are effectively smearing his reputation by screaming, "Bunny," you don’t go around trying to defend his public image by describing Cal as a "Bunny," despite your sensitivity to the feelings of any of the characters at Warner Brothers who are outraged about being used as a depreciating slur.
My point is simply this.....I not only have no trouble with the term, I am proud of it.
Shying away from something that the uneducated like to turn into a negative will get you nowhere.
There are lousy salesmen, just like there are lousy coaches. Cal is neither.
Being a salesman didn’t become a negatiove in anyone’s eyes until unscrupulous persons started doing things that they shouldnt. But hey, as close as I can tell, you can do that in any profession, not just mine.
I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!
by Greg Alan Edwards on Feb 2, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
I feel you.
I was in sales for years, and to some extent still am, since I wear that hat for my companies.
It is an honorable profession, perhaps the most truly capitalistic job on Earth. You eat only what you kill. Metaphorically speaking, of course. :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Don King and P T Barnum were promoters
Every time we get a call or a visit from a “promoter”, my first reaction is to reach back and push my wallet a little deeper in the pocket and then check my shirt and fingers to see if they are missing.
I think I prefer “salesman”.
"SPORTS"--Not interested----"CATS"--Pull up a chair,I've got all night.
As another salesman...
.. I to take umbrage with the put down of “salesmen”. Only those who have never taken the careerpath think of it in such narrow terms. And almost all the great coaches are great salesmen. their books are to be found on many a salesman’s bookshelves, for what they tell about motivation is directly applied to our daily lives.
The unknowing think of Herb Tarlick of WKRP as a typical salesman, we tend to think of those who have changed the world by changing the people around them. Think of Jesus, the Buddha, Thomas Paine, Patrick Henry, Lincoln, and many more whose products were ideas, but which had to be sold, often to a very resistant buyer.
WE all deal with sales people, and often respect and rely upon them, and when you find a good one in an area of life often return to them time and again. That there are bad ones is no more surprising than there are bad doctors, lawyers, or ministers.
i think Coach Cal is the consummate salesman of the school, the state, and his way of basketball, and I am glad that he is.
bard, ...
I didn’t disparage salesmen, that job has already been accomplished far beyond my meager ability to add or detract.
I agree with most of your points, but they’re irrelevant to the issue covered by the post. As I responded to Greg, above, "If Cal’s critics are effectively smearing his reputation by screaming, “Bunny,” you don’t go around trying to defend his public image by describing Cal as a “Bunny,” despite your sensitivity to the feelings of any of the characters at Warner Brothers who are outraged about being used as a depreciating slur."
I love the Herb Tarlick reference! I really miss WKRP. My particular favorite is "Turkeys Away" … "As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!" (Click Here for the entire episode.)
Loved that show
They had absolutely no respect for anyone. And Loni Anderson made it easy to watch. Just watched it, I had forgotten how funny it was. Thanks for the link.
"SPORTS"--Not interested----"CATS"--Pull up a chair,I've got all night.
Well at least no one has used the term "Used Car Salesman"
A man is nothing more than a summation of his scars!

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