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Kentucky Basketball: Is Terrence Jones Back?

Terrence Jones looked better, but he's still not all the way back from injury and his sophomore funk.

Yesterday against the South Carolina Gamecocks, Terrence Jones managed his second double-digit scoring game since the North Carolina Tar Heels came to town back in early December. Since that time, Jones has been mired in a "sophomore slump"-like funk, combined with a dislocation of the little finger on his shooting hand which cost him two games on the bench.

I'm not sure yesterday was a watershed for Jones, though. As welcome as his excellent shooting percentage from the field and the 20 big points he scored were, Jones was a non-factor on the glass despite his imposing 6'9" 250# frame and impressive athleticism. Jones manged only 3 rebounds for the game, 2 offensive and one defensive.

Given the Wildcats' overall performance (or lack thereof) on the backboards yesterday, I think it's safe to say that Jones did not really bring what Kentucky needs from him, although he brought a lot more than he has been. That can only be seen as a good sign.

Jones has always been something of an enigma from the day he reneged on his confused commitment to the Washington Huskies until yesterday. Jones reminds me a bit of Randolph Morris, a guy with a lot of talent and physical skill who all too often looks like he is playing with the Arby's logo drifting above his head. Jones frequently looks, and plays, like his mind is on anything but the game. While I'm sure that exaggerates the problem, his focus appears to be, shall we say, somewhat less than razor-sharp.

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Terrence Jones' Trends -- 2011-12

With that said, we did see some flashes from him yesterday. On one play in particular, Jones made a diving attempt to steal the basketball that ultimately resulted in a jump ball, and that is the sort of hustle that was lacking, for the most part, from Kentucky's play yesterday. It was good to see Jones get after it like that when his teammates were either unable or unwilling, and it gives us all hope that he may be on his way back to the All-American form we saw from him early in the season.

Jones seems to be a mercurial sort of person and player. Despite his great size and formidable skill, he appears to lack a bit of self-confidence that is, quite frankly, hard to understand. His occasional demonstrations -- flexing, three-goggles and so forth -- tend to confirm to me that he is insecure with his game (and likely himself) for some reason, and needs to overcome that timidity and trust both his own game and his teammates. It may be that despite two years in college, he is still not ready to do this basketball thing for a living, and still has considerable growing up to do.

Compare Jones with Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, who is confident of what he can do and comfortable in his own skin. MKG almost always acts like he has "been there before," despite the fact that he never really has, at least not in the college sense. But MKG is a winner, knows he's a winner, and is going to win.

Jones needs to borrow some of that, and make it his own.

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lack of confidence

wish TJ could see some of his highlights without knowing it was him…might become a believer…

"Every sweet has it's sour, every evil it's good."
Ralph Waldo Emerson

by KYCatwoman on Jan 8, 2012 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

Anyone else tired of the "what's wrong with Terrence" meme?

Even after yesterday’s excellent (but not perfect) performance, it continues. I don’t see how it ends. Even if he strings together 2 or 3 good games, the first time a part of his game lets us down – could be rebounds, could be FTs, could be some posing – we’ll be right back here wondering what’s wrong with his head. Could we maybe give this a rest? Cal was happy with Terrence’s performance. I don’t think we have much jurisdiction to disagree.

by Wheatgerm on Jan 8, 2012 12:17 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

thank you!

I have kleptomania,
but when it gets bad,
I take something for it.

by bluecrip on Jan 8, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanx "germ"

You saved me the time and trouble of responding to the same old, same old drivel re TJ.
The sheet is short on the same crap regarding Marquis Teague, he must have had a decent game.
It’ll be back soon however ’cause everyone is smarter than Calipari and someone will let down a bit
providing fodder for the armchair “coaches”.
They do have pretty charts and graphs though.

by Blujean on Jan 8, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

A lot depends on your perspective.

We’re Cat fans who love these players and want the best for them. On the other hand, how many NBA scouts would currently dismiss Glenn’s comments as “drivel” and “crap”?

by hgabenne on Jan 8, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

my thoughts exactly....

Dont tell me the big boys with the bucks dont notice …………

Lets get it on!!!!

by Magnoliacat on Jan 8, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

They notice things

we never even think about, and don’t worry about things we freak out about.

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by kywineman on Jan 8, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I am with you Wheatgerm

I am reluctant to make claims about a player’s personality when I have never met or interacted with them at all and I think that is what is going on here. It happens all the time in sports where a player’s production is linked directly to “desire” or “want to” or “heart”. Those are certainly components, but I think their affect is often overstated, especially when discussing a small number of games and too often those claims are merely the result of lazy analysis.

I go back to Tayshaun Prince and the ridiculous notion that some Cat fans had that he somehow “didn’t care” about playing because he wasn’t demonstrative the way some players were (cough Joakim Noah cough).

Every player has bad games and many players – even good/great ones – have stretches where they don’t play as well as one would expect. It happens. In Jones’ case instead of it being left at just that, the national media has created a Narrative where every time Terrence Jones doesn’t play well* it’s because of his head or his heart or his personality and no one ever digs any deeper to see if maybe it might just be something else – like perhaps a 1.5 inch splint attached to his shooting hand.

Glenn, I think you might have been sucked in by the national media group-think on this one.

*and by “playing well” they mean “score lots of points” because of course, that is the only thing that matters in basketball.

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by JLeverenz on Jan 8, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

agreed

Players, no matter how talented, go through things like this. I think also people forget how much pressure these players are under. They are kids. I am sure no one wants Jones to play good more than Jones himself. Last year he was much more inconsistent after the offense went to Knight as the primary player. This year he had 1 awful game at Indiana and I could not believe, as badly as he played, that it blew up across newspapers and blogs the way it did. Then the very next game he hurt his finger at the very start. He sat out a game. When he came back it was obvious he was playing with pain and it severely altered his shooting. But he continued to rebound and try. To me he had 1 horrible game followed by an injury that negated his offensive play. But it was as if that did not matter to writers and instead they said he is playing horrible or not into the game. I think it was very unfair to his situation.

Anyone who saw the picture of his finger knew how bad it was. I am actually shocked how quick he has came back from that injury. What 2 weeks or less? Terrence Jones this year is leaps and bounds better and more consistent to me. I think it was blown out of proportion big time. Dick Vitale started it and it blew up to a seriously ridiculous level. He tried and battled through the injury and media attacks and yesterday showed that he is almost totally healthy and ready to lead these Wildcats through the SEC and beyond. I have all the faith in the world in Jones, Calipari, and his teammates as well as BBN.

by michael26 on Jan 8, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

He’s a heckuva ballplayer and the whole team is trying to learn how everyone fits into this year’s version of the ’Cats. They (and he) will be fine.

by sweasyf on Jan 8, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Calipari wasn't all that happy.

He made exactly the same point about rebounding, for example, just in a different way.

But Calipari is negotiating with the psyche of these guys, so his public utterances must be made carefully. I certainly have no such requirement, and I am only concerned with what I see. It isn’t my job to worry about Jones’ psyche.

So from that standpoint, the answer to your question must be "Yes, we do have the “jurisdiction” to disagree." Why should we agree with what is clearly not as rosy as the coach seems to suggest?

But I think we can all agree, notwithstanding all the above, that he played better yesterday. I think if he continues this for a couple of games, the “what’s wrong with Jones?” meme will begin to disappear, just like another good game or two from Teague will begin to put that to bed in his case. He was really good yesterday, unlike Jones, who was only mostly good.

But it’s a process, and no coach or player is entitled to tender treatment from those of us who analyze college basketball, even when we are fans.

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by Glenn Logan on Jan 8, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

A name that comes to mind

Rodrick Rhodes.Just inconsistent at the moment.But Jones has 2 months to figure it out,and I think he will..

by Zoso- on Jan 8, 2012 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

How many rebounds did he miss out on ...

because he was out of position or didn’t hustle enough? Or that were not in his area or rebounds a team mate snagged? Just curious if those are even tracked.

by jpbluekat on Jan 8, 2012 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

Good point

It’s sometimes tough to get Davis to let anyone else snag a rebound. I witnessed on a couple of occasions Jones about to snag a board when these long, spidery arms suddenly appear and attach themselves to the ball and reel it in, right out of the reaching hands of Terrence.

Davis is a monster to rebound against, and then throw in MKG and there aren’t a lot of free balls to get to.

by MTCAT on Jan 8, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

16 OR's For 'Cocks

So there were lots of free balls available.

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

by Wild Weasel on Jan 8, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

At the game yesterday,

there were several instances where it appeared that the spacing between Jones and Davis was way too close. On one occasion they both went after the same lob and knocked it away from each other. Just from my observation Jones was working hard to get in proper position and Davis came out of nowhere as he is so prone to do. I am sure they will work this out. I was thinking that Davis has had a few games recently where Jones was not where he was supposed to be so Davis was compensating and hustling to everything. This is not a bad thing but with Jones returning to form, he will not have to cover as much territory as he did without the help from TJ.

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by kywineman on Jan 8, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Miller Vis à Vis K-G

It’s time, perhaps past time, for this discussion. The question of Darius Miller’s on-again, off-again on-court performance has been in the back of mind for a while now, longer than just this season. Today’s column by Jerry Tipton (whatever your opinion of Tipton shouldn’t, I believe, diminish the importance of the subject) on another “invisible” performance (4 points, one made shot, 1 rebound, 3 turnovers and only 19 minutes) by the senior wingman. A performance that brought this:

“Ech, ech, ech,” Calipari said before regaining his verbal footing. “Every once in a while, that’s what he is. Just passive.”

We who follow the Cats are by now quite familiar but not necessarily comfortable with the Miller sobriquets: Disappearious and Deferential. They may not be totally fair (I detest the word) but they are certainly apt.

All of which brings to my mind the difficulty of explaining the difference in performance levels between two athletes of similar (not identical by any means but near enough to provide comparative data) physical attributes: both ≈6-7, ≈230, vertical 30+, etc. Whatever other physical characteristics where K-G might have an edge: quickness,
speed, et al, would seem to be offset by the difference in experience, i.e. 4 years vs 1 year.

Accepting that the performance differential is not primarily physical, one is left with the obvious, call it what you might: attitude, confidence, aggression, courage, will, temperament, disposition, or the loaded and often misused term, heart. But it is obvious that the two players have very different mental and emotional traits. Why? Who’s to say? Without getting bogged down in the whole nature vs nurture debate I think it is safe to say that for whatever reason Miller and Kidd-Gilchrist are two individuals with quite different ego developments and that development is not likely to be substantially altered at this point in their lives.

Two final questions for me: Is it possible, or even desirable, for a coach to influence a player to become something different than his/her basic self? And for us fans, do we accept that player as he or she is and hope that their performance is enough for the team to reach its potential. Or do we hope, and pray for the more passionate, that there will be a psychological transformation and the player reaches his/her our perceived potential. For me the acquiescence to the reality of Darius Miller came sometime last year and now I recognize that as far as I know he is a good student, good citizen, due to graduate and a good player who contributes in accordance with his physical, mental and emotional abilities. In other words, comparison is worthless and worse, pernicious to all concerned.

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

by Wild Weasel on Jan 8, 2012 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

more concerned about DM

than I am TJ, it seems he’d rather take a backseat to the 5 star studs, but in reality we really are goin to need him when the goin gets tuff

by Bluehound on Jan 8, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

No coach/teacher can whitewash the spots off a leopard

That is to say, a person is who he is. On the other hand, it is the basic job of a coach/teacher to drive the pupil to his highest capability within who he is.

by jdogblue on Jan 8, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree completely-

In the words of John Prine… “You are what you are, and you ain’t what you ain’t”…

"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"

by iam4ukintn on Jan 8, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow - great questions WW!

When you ask, “Is it possible, or even desirable, for a coach to influence a player to become something different than his/her basic self?” – if both the will and athletic potential aren’t resident in the player then clearly it isn’t “possible” to change him – the old ‘silk-purse-from-a-sow’s-ear’ conundrum. However, if he has the potential, then the question of “desirable” becomes the salient issue and uppermost in that discussion should be, “What does Darius want?”

For me, the answer to that question lies initially with the decision on his part to play college basketball at UK and his earlier expressed ambition to play professionally thereafter. By choosing a program like Kentucky and expressing these professional aspirations, it is clear that he wants to have his game developed to its greatest possible extant. Of course, that’s not unusual in any student, attending college by its very nature embodies that desire to benefit from stretching abilities and striving toward our dreams. Coaches and we fans, like doting parents, perhaps selfishly, but no less ardently, take a vested interest in Miller reaching those ambitions through his contribution to team success.

Returning to the question of whether or not he has to the potential to expand his game consistent with his and our desires, I think the answer is clearly – yes. My perspective on this issue stems from the ‘on-again-off-again’ nature of Miller’s play. We have seen the ‘on-again’ Miller many times over the last three seasons. As mentioned in Tipton’s article, “He averaged 13.3 points and 5.6 rebounds in being named the SEC Tournament’s Most Valuable Player, Calipari credited the switched-on Miller as the reason Kentucky made its run to the Southeastern Conference Tournament title and NCAA Tournament Final Four last year.”

Miller’s problem is ‘inconsistency.’ If we hadn’t seen the ‘on-again’ Miller, if all we saw was the ‘Disappearious and Deferential’ Miller, then I think your perspective is accurate. But the fact that he has periodically played inspired play, suggests the opportunity to meet his aspirations and, through them, our own, is a reasonable “hope” on our and his part.

I take a different view to your last point about comparisons being pernicious. Contrasting our performance against an objective standard allows us to gage our level of achievement and progress toward our goals. I ascribe to the precept that goals should be reasonable. If goals are set impractically high, ‘shoot for the stars and accept the moon,’ they cease to be motivational and are, indeed, pernicious. On the other hand, I think it is entirely reasonable to set performance goals at a level you have shown yourself previously capable – like Miller’s post season play last season when he performed at a level on par with that of Kidd-Gilchrist.

Per Edward Gibbon, “We improve ourselves by victories over ourselves. There must be contest, and we must win.”

by TeamWeaver on Jan 8, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Looking Ahead

Poythress And Goodwin Light Up Lexington. Future Cats score 42 and 37 respectively.

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

by Wild Weasel on Jan 8, 2012 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

Cats Make Bennett's Cut

PF Anthony Bennett cut his list of schools to 5 including UK.

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

by Wild Weasel on Jan 8, 2012 5:01 PM EST reply actions  

Lady Cats Set 2 Records In Win

Mitchell’s Minxes remain perfect in SEC with 88-40 win over MSU. In victory 2 records: biggest margin of victory and 14 3-pointers.

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

by Wild Weasel on Jan 8, 2012 7:05 PM EST reply actions  

Back from where?

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"I'm not present I'm a drug that makes you dream I'm an aerostar I'm a cutlass supreme In the wrong lane Trying to turn against the flow I'm the ocean I'm the giant undertow I'm the ocean..." - N. Young

by HSLex on Jan 8, 2012 10:07 PM EST reply actions  

Yes he is

TJ is back. I think he was just going through the dreaded sophomore slump. If he can keep his head up the kid has no ceiling to stop him !

http://www.everythingkentuckyonline.com/2012/01/john-calipari-caption-this-photo-of-day.html

by Sam Henson on Jan 8, 2012 10:55 PM EST reply actions  

Jones is OK

My first time posting oh here. I love the site and after about a year I finally signed up to comment. I think Jones is fine. If we wanted we could find something that a player didnt do so well in any certain game, aside from MKG and Davis. The effort is there from Jones. Yes he did not rebound good yesterday but it happens. Its just that Jones has that " label" that he doesnt try hard all the time. While this is true, its also true of almost any player in college hoops. It happens. I think as fans we get selfish in what we want from these players and part of that is unreal expectations. While I would say almost every fan wants the absolute best for these guys, sometimes we are to demanding. Jones is and will be fine. I have faith in him, Cal, and the rest of the team. GOD BLESS

by michael26 on Jan 8, 2012 11:25 PM EST reply actions  

Welcome...

But worrying is what makes us uk fans :)

Glad you posted. This site helped me keep my sanity living in Memphis post Cal’s leaving…always love to see a new comment..

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Jan 8, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

Oh yeah, worrying is just one example why we are the best fan base. We care more about our players and every other thing that is involved with the Cats than any fans maybe in any sport. Actually not maybe, we do. Thank you so much for the welcome. I read this site every single day and have for a year and read all the comments but never tried to comment myself. So you lived in Memphis as a cat fan before Cal came to UK? Again thank you for the kind comment and welcome. It means a lot and shows just how great our fans are. God Bless

by michael26 on Jan 8, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Boyz to men...

I think we lose sight of the age of the players we are talking about. Jones is just a sophomore, the first year a player could hope to play in the old days, But on today’s squad with all it’s one-and-dones we view him as a “veteran” .

Jones seems to be a mercurial sort of person and player. Despite his great size and formidable skill, he appears to lack a bit of self-confidence that is, quite frankly, hard to understand.

This may be exactly what he needs to learn at UK for his future, how to believe in himself, and quite honestly not everyone does learn this lesson, whether they are an athlete or not. And as for it being hard to understand, well consider that one of the icons of feminine beauty in the last century, Marilyn Monroe never came to terms with either her beauty or her talent (she was one of the great comedians of her day). Garland evidently was the same, and constantly sought reassurance. And the lists goes on and on.

Those who write know the terror of the blank page. When you sit down and …nothing comes out. Or nothing we feel we can put out before others to see. We have come to the dreaded writer’s block . Salesmen have the same thing happen, when suddenly instead of seeing your way through to the close of the sale, all you can see are the obstacles, and you find yourself just going through the motions.

But when a basketball player hits that wall, and is just going through the motions, no matter how hard they are trying and how hard they want to do so successfully, everyone can see that the spark isn’t there. And in this day and age it isn’t just the reporters who comment on it, but everyone and their brother (or sister) is adding their 2 cents here or even directly to the player on FB or their twitter account..

When TJ’s belief in his abilities catches up with our perception of them, then he will be ready to make the jump, in the meantime we get to enjoy his playing for our team. Some players take a little longer than others, but when the switch is flipped then we get the benefit and so do they. And no, it does not just rely on the talent, it is in large part the belief in one’s talent. If it isn’t against the NCAA rules, maybe someone should get TJ a pair of “jorts”. LOL there is a great example of what a positive self image does to maximizing the use of one’s talents.

by blenheim bard on Jan 9, 2012 12:44 AM EST reply actions  

I think that all of us should think about

what our best ability was at 20 years old and then imagine having to perform that ability in front of 24000 screaming, highly critical, and impossibly demanding spectators.

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by kywineman on Jan 9, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

We ARE spoiled, and expect too much...

If we want to pin blame we need to look at the state of basketball today or even gasp Coach Cal. You can’t blame the kids, especially freshmen and sophomores. The best players are looking at college as a 1 year audition for the NBA. And the way Cal recruits, well, we get a lot of these kids. I’m not complaining, I’ll take Anthony Davis over some 50 ranked recruit 10 times out of 10, but even the best freshman can’t be dominant 100 percent of the time.

In the old days (up to the mid 90’s), you could expect MAYBE one kid to leave early for the NBA every other year. That allowed the kids to play 4 years and settle into their skill set. Freshmen played, but they weren’t expected to take over. Look at guys like Wayne Turner… I remember being VERY nervous about our chances when he was inserted into the lineup as a freshman. Tony Delk was no freshman phenom either. But they played 4 years and became Wildcat greats.

TJ is just a sophomore. And he’s coming off an injury to his shooting hand, of which I have no reason to doubt its severity. Cut the guy some slack, he just scored 20 for the cats, which is like scoring 30 for a normal college team. TJ will be fine.

by cat stevie on Jan 9, 2012 7:28 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Some of the article about rebounding I really don't care about....

If TJ would have had 15 Rebs, and only 2 pts, we would have lost, right? I mean, his points carried us to victory, IMO, and I think that TJ has more teammates to cover the REBS this year than last.

I do agree that sometimes, Jones has something on his mind – whether he is afraid to get blocked (when he changes his shot mid-point and forces something) or if he just seems “out of it” – either way, I think it will go away. However, with this small “slump” he has had, if his draft stock goes down a but, does one fan think he may stay AGAIN to put him in the top 5-10 for draft next year? One could hope if he will not go in the lottery this year….right? Blessing in disguise?

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by kentuckyrules on Jan 9, 2012 9:29 AM EST reply actions  

Disappointing Analysis

Unfortunately I usually don’t get around to reading these postings until well after my comments could have any effect. But, I really take issue with this particular post.

I’m tired of the Jones-bashing on this blog. If he scores, his rebuilding is weak. If he rebounds, he isn’t scoring. Or, he should get over his injury, since we all know that a dislocated finger on a shooting hand is minor. Blah, blah, blah. Only the Leverenz defensive analyses recognize his excellent defensive play.

One point I haven’t seen anyone make is that defenses are double and triple teaming Jones in large part because Anthony Davis has no post moves aside from alley oop dunks. That is what Indiana and lesser teams since have done to lower Jones’ offensive impact. Also, no one seems to remember that he was considered a 3-4 in HS who has been converted to an everyday 4.

I also find the psedo-psychological comments about his body language or attitude based on facial expressions like something out of Psychology Today. Most of that is like a substance found in many Fayette County barns. During the Indiana game, Dick Vitale, whom I normally like, went out of his way to lambast Jones based on some view of his attitude. We have no idea what is going on in his head. He’s a 20-year-old male. I used to be one of those and had three sons, and I still can’t figure it out.

Finally, I don’t remember this much negative todo when Demarcus Cousins had bad games or demonstrated “bad” body language, and no one, including the Maloof brothers, has figured him out yet.

by Big Blue Daddy on Jan 9, 2012 12:32 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

First of all ...

… there is no “Jones bashing” going on here. There never has been, and never will be player bashing allowed on here.

Second, as far as my perception of Jones’ game, you are free to disagree with me, but I will kindly ask you not to mischaracterize and disparage my comments. My complaints with Jones’ game, such as they are, are founded in both fact and educated perception. I have been watching and playing basketball a long time. I am absolutely confident I know what I’m talking about.

Jones has lost confidence. That’s easy for anyone to see. It will come back, no doubt, when he plays better. As Calipari says, “confidence is demonstrated performance.” When he demonstrates, both in practice and in games, that everything is fine, it will become fine in his mind as well, and he’ll be back to good. But in this writer’s opinion, he is not there yet, and periodic lapses have been an ongoing issue with him. Anyone can have a bad game, or even a bad couple of games. Four sub-par games in a row, and I’m not counting the last one despite his poor rebounding, is a concern.

One thing that hasn’t slacked off is his defense, and I have consistently remarked positively on that. I also don’t fault his effort, and never have. Much of what is going on with Jones is revealed in his own comments, Calipari’s comments, the comments of his teammates, and the way he plays the game. I have seen Jones playing well, and I know what that looks like. He hasn’t looked that way in over a month, regardless of what his numbers have been. I have seen what players look like when they lose confidence. Jones looks like that. I have seen what players look like when they are not focused. Jones looks like that.

I have no idea what Cousins hasto do with this. It is not necessary for us to have remarked on Cousins’ behavior to remark on Jones’ game. The two have nothing to do with each other.

This article was to point out the FACT that we are not currently getting enough production out of Jones, and to posit possible reasons why. That’s all. We need 12-15 points and 8-10 rebounds out of him every game, and quite frankly, he should be doing more than that because we got 15 and 9 out of him last year. Right now he’s at 11 and 6. That’s way below where he needs to be. Hopefully, it will get better soon.

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by Glenn Logan on Jan 9, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Once again my science background must respond to this,
We need 12-15 points and 8-10 rebounds out of him every game, and quite frankly, he should be doing more than that because we got 15 and 9 out of him last year.

Please note that there are several variables at work between last year’s team and this year’s. Several players who started or played significant minutes have moved on thus creating a shift in performances at key positions. It is not as simple as saying he should be doing more this year. With that said, I think that he and Davis haven’t quite defined their roles as complimentary to each other and more often than we would like to see are trying to occupy the same space and time. This will almost certainly be resolved as the season progresses and I look for Jones numbers to increase.

Making waves in a sea of blue.

by kywineman on Jan 9, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well ...

… while that may be so, in my humble opinion, these variables do not sufficiently account for his lack of performance to date. The fact is that Jones is as talented at his position as any player in the country, and much of his failure to perform has been about just that, not fewer touches or worse opportunities.

Anthony Davis’ rebounding is roughly on par with that of Josh Harrellson, so that doesn’t explain Jones’ decreased production as a rebounder. Jones is one of three returning starters (considering Darius Miller the sixth starter) and as such has a major advantage offensively over the newcomers.

I hope, and expect, it is on its way to resolution. Calipari has taken steps to help Jones in this area, and it seems to be paying off. The best cure for a lack of confidence is to play so hard you forget about it. It never fails.

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by Glenn Logan on Jan 9, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

You have raised a good point.

If AD has assumed the role and production of Josh, and TJ is still there in his position, this is a good argument for your position. How does MKG fit in this compared to those playing his position last year? Not arguing here, just trying to analyze.

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by kywineman on Jan 9, 2012 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Frankly, I'm a little disappointed too.

I thought the thing that distinguishes ASOB from most other fan sites is the articles that are partisan, informed, yet HONEST. Fans, readers, and bloggers who are only interested in “positive” observations and opinions about their team are a dime dozen, for Pete’s sake. Such people are often found at the LHL site where they lie in wait for opportunities to pounce on Jerry Tipton’s “negativity.” But ASOB is different. Here, someone can wonder aloud why a preseason SEC Player of the Year and AP All-American has not yet met those expectations and receive responses that are thoughtful (such as the one by Kywineman below), whether they agree or disagree, rather than just snide. Right?

by hgabenne on Jan 9, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly-

As long as I’ve read and posted here, everyone’s opinion is just that. We are fans, not psychological experts. In some peoples minds that frequent this fine site, TJ has not lived up to his potential. SEC Player of the Year and All American has maybe put a lot of pressure on the kid. I mean, he turned 20 years old today. I think and hope he will be fine. I personally would like to see him have his break-out game of 2012 in Knoxville Saturday… GO CATS!!!

"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"

by iam4ukintn on Jan 9, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

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