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SEC Realignment: Analysis Of Baylor's Legal Position Vs. The SEC

Everyone who reads A Sea of Blue on a regular basis knows I'm not a lawyer, and I don't play one on this blog.  With that said, you don't have to be a lawyer to read and understand the law in its basic form, even though the procedural and precedential twists and turns can always trip you up.

So how about this threatened lawsuit by Baylor against the SEC for tortious interference?  "What the heck is 'tortious interference,'" you ask?  Rather than trying to explain it myself, I'll direct you to this Burnt Orange Nation post (hat tip:  JC25) that describes what that term means.  Essentially, it is the common-law concept that it is wrong for a third party to interfere in the contract between two other parties.

Here's how such a claim would likely go, translated into human-readable language:  The SEC interfered with Baylor's contractual interests in the Big 12 by inducing Texas A&M to leave the conference, likely leading to a breakup that will cost Baylor a lot of money and prestige by forcing it to affiliate with a lesser conference.

That seems simple enough, even to me.  So what does Baylor have to prove to prevail in such a suit, should it ever be filed?

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According to my understanding, the elements to proving this tort (legal word for "wrongful act" as applied to contracts) that must be proven by a preponderance of evidence are:

  1. A legal contract or beneficial business relationship must exist between two parties (one of whom would be Baylor) that was affected by the third party (the SEC, in this case);
  2. The third party (SEC) must be aware of the contract or relationship;
  3. The third party (SEC) intended to induce a breach of contract or relationship by one of the parties (Baylor's other party) to the contract;
  4. The third party (SEC) lacked any contractual or legal privilege to induce the breach;
  5. The relationship or contract actually was breached;
  6. The party affected by the breach (Baylor) was harmed by it.

First, lets take the easy ones and dispose of them.  There is no doubt that the SEC is aware of the contract between the Big 12 conference and the teams that comprise the Big 12.  There is no doubt that the SEC lacks contractual or legal privilege to institute any breach of those contracts.  Also, Texas A&M has announced its intention to breach the contract, and if TAMU leaves the Big 12, point 5 is proven.  So we can safely consider points 2, 4, and 5 can be proven to the required standard of proof.

Now, let's take the rest in order.  A legal contract exists between Texas A&M and the Big 12 Conference, but not between Texas A&M and Baylor.  The question therefore becomes one of meeting the first hurdle, which is basically one of standing.  Does Baylor, one of ten remaining members of the Big 12, actually have a contractual relationship that is being interfered with?

My reading would be no.  Texas A&M has a contract with the Big 12, a legal entity, not the other schools in the conference, as does Baylor.  Are Baylor's rights and privileges under the contract affected by the breach by TAMU?  No, not really.  Is it's business relationship with the Big 12 harmed?  No, not at all -- that relationship is the point of the contract between Baylor and the Big 12, which is not being interfered with.

Moving on to intent, it is clear that Texas A&M approached the SEC first, not the other way around.  That fact alone indicates the intent to breach was TAMU's idea, not something induced or put in their heads by the SEC.  Mike Slive is nothing if not highly intelligent and a lawyer to boot, and the SEC has carefully placed themselves beyond the reach of a provable accusation of intentional tortioius action by allowing TAMU to initiate all conversations with it, either directly or through the media.

Moving on down the list to point 6, it is possible that the result of TAMU's departure could place Baylor in an unfortunate position eventually, but that harm has yet to happen, and cannot be proven at all. There is no way to show what may happen in the future, it is entirely speculation on the part of Baylor.  Baylor would have a better case (albeit only marginally, it still has to achieve "party" status within the meaning of the tort and prove the SEC intended to interfere) if TAMU left, the Big 12 collapsed, and Baylor's worst fears were realized.  But until that actually happens, or unless they can show to a high standard of proof that it is inevitable, Baylor's case fails utterly on point 6.  In my view, it also fails on point 1 and point 3.

So there we go.  What do you think?  Where will this all end up?

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Good analysis, Glenn

I was listening to Houston talk radio driving home the other day, and a very articulate lawyer called and discussed a few aspects of the “Baylor problem”. I won’t rehash it all, but the host asked whether there would be enough basis for a lawsuit, and the lawyer basically said that there’s a possibility that the case could be justifiable enough to make it to court. He also mentioned that if a waiver had been signed by Baylor, any such case would be much less merited, and the chances of a court case would be greatly diminished. He wasn’t saying a case would ever make it to court (since even if lawsuits were filed, massive litigation followed by a settlement would still be the most likely outcome).

My interpretation: the SEC is basically saying, if you’re saying there’s a chance, we don’t want to take it. At this point, there’s absolutely no point for the SEC to risk a huge amount of litigation just to pick up Texas A&M. Instead, they can just wait for cooler heads to prevail. For example, if OU suddenly declared they were staying in the Big 12 (ha ha!), Baylor would immediately drop any threat of a lawsuit since they would still have a Power Conference to stay in. But unless that happens, I don’t think this just “ends” as easily as the Nebraska/Colorado exodus.

by jc25 on Sep 8, 2011 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

I think that's right.

The SEC doesn’t want to litigate, at least not now. The ultimate question is, is the mere threat of a lawsuit all it will take to hold the Big 12-2 together?

Or to paraphrase Theoden during the siege of Helm’s Deep, “Is this it? Is this all you can conjure, Baylor?”

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 8, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another question

I think the more interesting question is: “Is the mere threat of a lawsuit the only thing holding the Big 12 together?” If so, the Big 12 is inherently unstable and can fly apart at any time. How’s that as a future for Baylor?

"He still carries a lunch bucket. What's up with that?"

by BlueCollarMan on Sep 8, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another good question.

For that one, I have no answer. But I have another question:

Will they do the same thing if Oklahoma threatens to leave?

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 8, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

In my small mind...

I see this strategic move by Baylor not necessarily to keep the sinking Big 12 together long term – though that would certainly be an acceptable outcome – but rather as a positioning move to buy more time in the short term to review options and potentially a negotiated financial settlement.

by TXCat on Sep 8, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be.

Makes as much sense as anything else to me.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 8, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

My two cents

Baylor knows that the Pac-12 won’t make a move until an A&M move to the SEC is written in stone.

The Pac-12 does not, in any circumstances, want to be the conference that throws the first stone (as an aside, I actually find it astounding that the SEC, the most stable conference in the land, is actually the one disrupting the waters).

Just the threat of a lawsuit against the SEC is sufficient enough for them to delay an official offer to A&M, and thus a final acceptance from A&M.

For now, A&M remains a Big 12 school, and the SEC remains at 12, even if both are just formalities.

But because of the formality, the Pac-12 won’t actively offer/accept OU, nor will OU actively leave the Big 12.

In short, like TXCat says, this buys time.

by jc25 on Sep 8, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see that the SEC has disrupted the waters.

They have only reacted to the situation, they are not proactively seeking TAMU or anyone else. Sure they got together and voted on whether they would accept a membership application from the Aggies but that is only taking a proactive approach internally so that they have a read on the SEC members.

Don't take life too seriously; no one gets out alive.

by hoboat33 on Sep 8, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good write-up

I know this has pretty much been my take on it, too.

and the SEC has carefully placed themselves beyond the reach of a provable accusation of intentional tortioius action by allowing TAMU to initiate all conversations with it, either directly or through the media.

I’d take that one step further, and say “by requiring TAMU to initiate all conversations with it…”

At this point, my only guess is that Baylor’s counsel thinks that they could unearth some evidence of collusion. Again, that’s just a guess. Realistically, this may just be posturing and a last-gasp effort to stitch the remnants of the Big XII back together.

(Humpty Dumpty, as the case were…)

by AU Tiger on Sep 8, 2011 9:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks.

I think you may be right about the SEC requiring TAMU to approach them in every case. They did that in fact, according to my understanding.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 8, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess my point to Baylor would be,

Why is TAMU any different than Nebraska? And if there is no difference, then why didn’t Baylor sue them?

I am going to avoid the obvious political jokes and insults on this one and get straight to the heart of the matter. Baylor holds the same contract with the Big 12 as everyone else right? So if their contract and TAMU’s contract are the same, does the existence of individual contracts with all those schools not eliminate #1? Doesn’t the fact that TAMU’s contract exists override the premise that TAMU or the SEC seek to do harm to Baylor? No law forced TAMU into their contract with the Big 12, and there are monetary penalties for breaking that contract inside it. As long as TAMU is willing to pay those penalties, what other premise would legally stand against it?

If Baylor’s premise were true, should they not have to be entered into a contract between the Big 12 and TAMU themselves?

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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 8, 2011 9:13 AM EDT reply actions  

I suppose the answer to your question is ...

… that Baylor didn’t feel as threatened by the circumstances surrounding Nebraska.

To answer your question about contracts, it seems to me that the suit would fail because Baylor is not a party to TAMU’s contract. That, it seems to me, removes Baylor too far from any actual contract that it holds to have the requisite standing.

The only way Baylor could be harmed, it seems to me, is if the SEC were somehow interfering in Baylor’s contract with the Big 12, which I doubt contains a provision guaranteeing Baylor the continuation of all other parties to the conference. If it did, then Baylor would seemingly have a cause of action against the Big 12 itself.

As to the last sentence of your first paragraph, that’s a good question. If TAMU chooses to breach, which is its right, how does Baylor obtain a cause of action? I don’t think it has one.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 8, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Contractual issues finally stated

Thanks for the point-by-point listing of the actual contractual issues “probably” being cited by Baylor (and apparently some of their other Big 12 cohorts). Several (hundreds) of sites have reported the lawsuit but no one has discussed exactly what contractual issues were being broken (that Nebraska and Colorado hadn’t already broken??). I honestly think the SEC fails on point three (third party inducement to breach contract). Their public statement at the beginning of all this with their “satisfaction” with the current 12-team alignment would seem to show that the SEC wasn’t initiating this possible A&M move (coupled with the SEC’s vote to accept A&M conducted after the Aggies announced their intent to depart the Big 12). As cited by a previous poster, there would have to be evidence of some upfront “coordination” between the SEC and A&M to put the SEC at risk.

Funny, since Arkansas has been recently APPROACHED by the Big 12 to possibly move to the Big 12, I would assume if that occurred that the SEC would certainly have grounds for a lawsuit against the Big 12.

by pseudonymion on Sep 8, 2011 9:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Let's just swap 'em......lol

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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 8, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I totally agree ...

… and you are completely right that if Baylor can’t prove that the SEC intended to break TAMU off, the suit fails. In fact, if any one of the three remaining elements can’t be met, the suit fails.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 8, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately Waco has a history of wackos

Baylor is putting a finger in the dyke while a tsunami is headed their way. The Big 12 has both feet in the grave and any school with reasonable opportunities for the future is heading for the exit. Let it go.

by chicagoblues on Sep 8, 2011 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

As I asked above ...

… will they threaten Oklahoma also?

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 8, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

As long as they continue to be irrational, yes

I think the genie is out of the bottle and there will be an inexorable move towards sixteen-member super-conferences. The interesting thing is where does the NCAA wind up in all of this?

by chicagoblues on Sep 8, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

that brings me to this question.....

If there are not enough big conferences to hold everyone, will a conference of also rans POP up like conference usa?

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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 8, 2011 12:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Haha!

I like it!

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 8, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

let the (Buffalo) chips lay...

Interesting take on Baylor branding themselves with their poison apple. When this all settles out, who is going to be in a conference with them?
http://www.ubbullrun.com/2011/9/8/2412738/talking-bull-baylors-new-helmets
And their prototype Baylor helmets are too “cute”.

What’s Kenneth Starr’s favourite Johnny Cash song?

                                “A Boy named ‘sue’.”

by blenheim bard on Sep 8, 2011 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder if the roles were reversed

would Texas A&M be looking to sue Baylor to keep them in the conference?

How long would it take the rest of the Big 12 to even notice?

And in classic “I am not sure that you have really thought your cunning plan all the way through” fashion, is this Ken Starr ploy going to make Baylor a popular and attractive school to be in a conference with (Big 12 or otherwise) moving forward, or will it just make everyone wary of them?

It isn’t as if this is even going to work in the end.

One of my favorite posts that I have seen on this issue is someone who wrote: “The Big 12 should just get together and kick Baylor out first so then everyone else can leave in peace.”

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by HSLex on Sep 8, 2011 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Truthfully

I don’t think it will affect Baylor’s appeal – or lack of it – either way. BCS conferences won’t see a attractive candidate primarily due to historical weakness in football (Baylor is 18-101 in Big 12 play since the conference was formed in 1996, small TV market in Waco TX and smaller alumni base. However, to a non-BCS – where Baylor seems likely to drop – will seemingly find some cache in having a former BCS school with an overall successful sports program and strong academic reputation join them.

by TXCat on Sep 8, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have an idea!

Why doesn’t the SEC just invite Baylor to come along as the 14th team?

That way, maybe Kentucky could have another team it could occasionally beat in the SEC! Win/Win! :-)

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 8, 2011 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

lol......oooookay.....add-a-patsy is it???

we havent gotten that desperate here have we? then again 7-5 every year does seem like more fun and success than we have now…..lol

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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 8, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baylor couldn't leave and break any contract...

because it would only be so long before someone suggested to Starr that he go sue himself.

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"I watch (UK) every night... I am going to support them for the rest of my life. I'm a Wildcat for the rest of my life." -- JWall, 2/8/11

by HSLex on Sep 8, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is NOT what I would

suggest he go do to himself.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on Sep 8, 2011 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, "sue" sorta rhymes with it, tho.

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by hoboat33 on Sep 8, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that may very well be their inner not-so-secret hope.

If my opinion counted for anything, SEC expansion would be:

TAMU
Florida State
Missouri
West Virginia

Look, we’ll even keep the Eat & West somewhat balanced! ;-)

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by jords on Sep 9, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Corporate College Sports

This whole rigamarole is little different than Google buying Motorola or ATT’s takeover of T-Mobile, and is reflective of college sports’ steady march toward corporatism. The peril lies in the temptation for government involvement.

"Statistics are no substitute for judgment" — Henry Clay (my namesake)

by Wild Weasel on Sep 8, 2011 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I heard on WHAS radio

that the Big East is poised to invite Baylor if the Big 12 breaks up. Furthermore, I heard that BYU is prepared to join the Big 12 if asked.

by jdogblue on Sep 8, 2011 6:34 PM EDT reply actions  

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