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NCAA Rules: South Carolina Receives Notice Of Allegations For More Than $55,000 In Impermissible Benefits

The Ol' Ball Coach knows that repeat violator status is a bad thing.

South Carolina is next up on the NCAA docket, and today the first shoe dropped in the form of a Notice of Allegations.  The notice alleges that South Carolina allowed a hotel, serving as a representative of its athletics interest, and two boosters with providing an array of extra benefits mostly to football and track athletes, both current and prospective.

The Washington Post reports thus:

The NCAA letter received Monday says 12 athletes in football and women’s track received an extra benefit of $47,000 for staying at a local hotel for a reduced rate. The NCAA also says officials with the Student Athlete Mentoring Foundation provided $8,000 worth of impermissible benefits and inducements for South Carolina athletes and prospects.

The dollar amounts are very high in this case, primarily due to the hotel charging a ridiculously low daily rate to football and women's track athletes for fairly substantial suites.  There is also major booster involvement in recruiting, and even though the monetary amounts are minuscule by comparison, they look very bad on the compliance department.  So bad, in fact, that the Committee on Infractions has trotted out the Failure to Monitor allegation, a pretty serious charge.  But there is much worse, and we'll get to that later.

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For some reaction from Gamecock land, we turn to the SB Nation South Carolina blog, Garnet and Black Attack:

-I still think the NCAA's numbers on the Whitney discounts are skewed by the fact that low extended stay rates are very common. Regardless, note that one thing the NCAA is investigating is whether or not the owner of the Whitney has a relationship with USC. My understanding is that that's not the case. That should help us. It should also help that we acted appropriately when we found out about this and that our players paid back the money they owed.

The NCAA is alleging that Whitney Hotel is a "representative of the school's athletic interests," so it seems to me that the NCAA has established that relationship to its satisfaction.  My understanding of the NCAA bylaws is that if a business like that is providing an impermissible benefit, they automatically become a "booster" for the purposes of the allegation whether or not a relationship previously existed.  I'm not sure I agree with my colleague that the lack of a prior relationship helps much, unless USC can prove that this was a normal business practice of the hotel, in which case I would say that the NCAA's case is likely to be found wanting.

-Perhaps the worst news here, IMO, is that we're being hit with "repeat violator" status due to the 2005 mess. That could make what might have been minor penalties more serious in nature.

For those of you unfamiliar with the "repeat violator" enhancement, here is the rule:

19.5.2.3.1 Time Period. An institution shall be considered a "repeat" violator if the Committee on Infractions finds that a major violation has occurred within five years of the starting date of a major penalty. For this provision to apply, at least one major violation must have occurred within five years after the starting date of the penalties in the previous case. It shall not be necessary that the Committee on Infractions’ hearing be conducted or its report issued within the five-year period. (Revised: 1/14/97 effective 8/1/97)

19.5.2.3.2 Repeat-Violator Penalties. In addition to the penalties identified for a major violation, the minimum penalty for a repeat violator, subject to exceptions authorized by the Committee on Infractions on the basis of specifically stated reasons, may include any or all of the following: (Revised: 1/11/94)

(a) The prohibition of some or all outside competition in the sport involved in the latest major violation for one or two sports seasons and the prohibition of all coaching staff members in that sport from involvement directly or indirectly in any coaching activities at the institution during that period; [DEATH PENALTY]

(b) The elimination of all initial grants-in-aid and all recruiting activities in the sport involved in the latest major violation in question for a two-year period; [PLUS!]

(c) The requirement that all institutional staff members serving on the Board of Directors, Leadership Council, Legislative Council or other cabinets or committees of the Association resign those positions, it being understood that all institutional representatives shall be ineligible to serve on any NCAA committee for a period of four years; and (Revised: 11/1/07 effective 8/1/08) [Whatever]

(d) The requirement that the institution relinquish its voting privilege in the Association for a four-year period. [DEATH STAR!] [Emphasis and brackets comments mine]

Yes, I would say that this is "more serious."

Let's just read that for what it is:  The DEATH STAR, and program obliteration.  I capitalized that more for humor than anything else, as the Gamecocks are not likely to suffer anything like that.  But the fact that they are at least theoretically in play makes this potentially a more significant case than Miami.  Note the use of the adjective, "potentially." The reality is, but for the 2005 violations, there would be no chance, even theoretically, of such a penalty.  But the "repeat violator" punishment can potentially be uglier than anything we have ever seen, even if we know it is 1000-1 it will be applied like that.  But it isn't likely to be ignored, either.

The Gamecocks, make no mistake, are in very serious trouble.  The Committee will not overlook the repeat violator thing, and an otherwise rather pedestrian out-of-control booster case has become more than a little scary.

What do you think about all this?

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Wow! Failure to monitor? Double wow!

That is issued for only severe cases isn’t it?

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Sep 19, 2011 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

No.

You’re confusing that with Lack of Institutional Control, which is the really bad one.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 19, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did didn't I? Thanks Glenn.

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Sep 19, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

No worries!

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 19, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe

the NCAA should be disbanded.

by oldkentucky on Sep 19, 2011 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Well...
What do you think about all this?

The first thing I thought was: I really don’t have the heart to read any of this- especially the actual rules. I am so sick of the NCAA and its rules that I am considering openly rooting for schools to start breaking all of them.

The second thing I thought was: No, that is not right. People should follow the rules of organizations that they are voluntarily members of. We can’t just have anarchy ruling the day.

The third thing I thought was: As bad as that would be, I think I am going back to disliking the NCAA the most.

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"I watch (UK) every night... I am going to support them for the rest of my life. I'm a Wildcat for the rest of my life." -- JWall, 2/8/11

by HSLex on Sep 19, 2011 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

well, there is an old chinese proverb that says if you live long enough

you will come to see the world think as you do. Guess I should consider myself fortunate.

As little as a year ago, I was considered to be a borderline nut case for proclaiming the NCAA unfit for their intended purpose. Looky what we have now.

I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!

by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 19, 2011 10:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

There doesn't seem to be much doubt something will happen to SC.

The outcry will come later when the NCAA deals out some penalty that makes everyone go – “HUH??”.

Don't take life too seriously; no one gets out alive.

by hoboat33 on Sep 20, 2011 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Somebody help me

Maybe I am desensitized but any hotel associated with a university or busines for that matter offers special rates for the volume. Maybe this is excessive but given how high the posted rack rate of a hotel room versus what anyone would actually pay is large especially if a volume discount is negotiated and I bet ever university could get caught on this one. What am I missing?

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Sep 20, 2011 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

I have to agree.

Wouldn’t this be something that takes place all the time?

by ScottWalls on Sep 20, 2011 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great point memphis

Maybe a team isn’t allowed to get “discounts” on anything???? I can see how that COULD be a rule.

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Sep 20, 2011 6:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

It could be.

Apparently, though, the NCAA doesn’t think so, and I think they can be forgiven for thinking that. That hotel seems to be a booster in the real sense (not the fabricated sense), and I don’t think the NCAA would charge them if they didn’t have evidence that these rates were particular to Gamecock athletes.

If that’s wrong, it should be relatively easy for the business to prove that.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 20, 2011 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Matt Hinton has this:
According to the NCAA, South Carolina athletes were given reduced room rates and nine athletes were given extra time to pay their rent. Athletes were given rooms that were normally rented $57 a night for extended stays of three months or more for $14.59 a night. So, instead of paying $1,710 per month like a regular tenant, South Carolina athletes were paying roughly $438 a month.

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If a normal USC student would have had to pay $57 per night as the NCAA is alleging, that would be a very major impermissible benefit.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 20, 2011 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks...

that would begin to put it into perspective

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Sep 20, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

The national extended stay monthly rate

at the time was within $15 of the rate charged to the athletes. I think South Carolina’s biggest problem is being a big enough name to get attention, but not big enough to have the connections to smooth things over.

"Lattimore, as the kids can say, can ball, and sometimes does it to the extent one might say [he] is out of control in his balling." - Spencer Hall

by GwinnettGamecock on Sep 20, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well ...

… that still works out to more than double what the hotel charged, says nothing about the fact that they were allowed extra time to pay, and when taken times hundreds of days is still quite a lot of money.

I’m not sure that can be smoothed over, but then again, that’s just one man’s opinion.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 21, 2011 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

$15 on a monthly rate of slightly over $400

Not within $15 on a daily rate. I think the NCAA decided they had to find something to justify 16 months in town, and this was the best they could do. I have no problem with whatever consequences develop as long as the NCAA is willing to apply the same rigorous standards to every other school in the nation.

"Lattimore, as the kids can say, can ball, and sometimes does it to the extent one might say [he] is out of control in his balling." - Spencer Hall

by GwinnettGamecock on Sep 21, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not as of now.

I’ve read a dozen reports, and none of them says why. All of them said the AD for compliance signed off on the rates.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 20, 2011 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

My law firm negotiates a reduced rate for several brands of hotels - all next door to our offices.

Anyone staying there on business with my firm can get the reduced rate. We get the reduced rate because we refer these potential customers to the hotels and deliver some # of customers to them each year.

Now – if that is the deal between the USC and the hotel, that seems legit.

But if it is something else, then I can see the point. The difference here (57 reduced to 15) is pretty big. Most hotel discounts of the type I describe are in the 30-40% range – not the 70% range.

by JackBluto on Sep 20, 2011 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

The problem is ...

… that deal can’t just be for the athletic department. That’s what the allegation is, that a regular student wouldn’t get that rate.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 20, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

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