NCAA Rules: Eight Miami Players Suspended In The Nevin Shapiro Affair
by Glenn Logan on Aug 30, 2011 5:34 PM EDT
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PrintThe NCAA has just issued a release concerning some of the Miami Hurricanes players implicated in the Nevin Shapiro affair, which has galvanized college football over the last few weeks. The players and number of games they are suspended are as follows:
| MIAMI SUSPENSIONS | ||
| Player | Pos. | Game(s) |
| Olivier Vernon | DE | 6 |
| Aravious Armstrong | S | 4 |
| Dyron Dye | TE | 4 |
| Travis Benjamin | WR | 1 |
| Marcus Forston | DL | 1 |
| Jacory Harris | QB | 1 |
| Adewale Ojomo | DL | 1 |
| Sean Ryan Spence | LB | 1 |
From the release:
Of the eight football student-athletes, three received substantial benefits as prospective student-athletes from Shapiro and athletics personnel to entice them to enroll at the university, which are considered some of the most serious recruiting violations within the NCAA.
On it's face, this doesn't appear all that bad to me. I would expect Miami fans to be pretty relieved, but there will be more to come, probably much more in the form of sanctions.. But this seems to clear up the current team situation from their standpoint.
What do you think? Is this pretty much as expected, to light, to heavy?
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What are "substantial benefits"?
And then what insubstantial benefits warrant a one game suspension?
Not sure any of them are insubstantial.
But some appear to be far less than others.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
I am assuming this is just the current players......
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Aug 30, 2011 5:58 PM EDT reply actions
Did you expect them to suspend future or past players?
Just askin’ :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
I meant this is just the beginning of the penalties....lol.....
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Aug 30, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
careful, we will have coop photoshop your face onto a grocery worker.....lol
I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!
by Greg Alan Edwards on Aug 30, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
those of us who are either thick skulled or slow on the uptake appreciate it greatly.....lol
I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!
by Greg Alan Edwards on Aug 30, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
No Death Penalty?
I really was looking for something much harsher to be given to Miami. I believe this was way too light!
It isn't over yet.
Not by a long shot. But no, you won’t see the death penalty.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Screen spew..........
He has a bigger title than this. Still funny.
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
Well, he is the VP in charge of Marketing for a grocery supplier......lol.....
The VP In Charge of Marketing title is usually translated into: Whatever everyone else won’t do
And we all know there’s nothing Pearl won’t do to support his employers
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Aug 30, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Eric Manuel
was barred forever from the NCAA for alleged academic fraud. I would think that receiving substantial benefits to sign with UM would be just as egregious.
I wouldn't think so.
Accepting benefits is mere rulebreaking. Academic fraud is considered an ethics violation, where illegal benefits are normally not.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Illegal benefits are not an ethics violation?
What is the world coming to?
Miami players have the best ethics
money can buy.
I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.
Heh.
well, that’s the convoluted view of the NCAA, anyway.
The correct term is “Impermissible benefits.” :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Glenn,
I definitely think this is something that needs to be shored up and recognized as a common course of careful writing in the future.
Academic fraud is easy to understand as an ethics violation. No doubt.
But with other words floating around like “illegal”, what exactly is illegal about breaking an NCAA rule? Breaking an NCAA rule is breaking an NCAA rule and of course carries penalties to remain eligible in the NCAA, but how is it necessarily described as either “illegal” or “unethical” to have done so?
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"I watch (UK) every night... I am going to support them for the rest of my life. I'm a Wildcat for the rest of my life." -- JWall, 2/8/11
Adj. 1. unethical – not conforming to approved standards of social or professional behavior;
Synonyms: cheating, corrupt, crooked, dirty*, dirty-dealing, dishonorable, disreputable, double-crossing, fake, fishy, flimflam, fly-by-night, illegal, improper, mercenary, scam*, shady*, sharp*, slick*, slippery*, sneaky*, two-faced, two-timing, underhand, unfair, unprincipled, unprofessional, unscrupulous, wrong
Seems to me “not conforming to approved standards” fairly well covers not complying with the rules of an organization that one (a university) voluntarily belongs to.
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Seems to me "not conforming to approved standards" fairly well covers not complying with the rules of an organization that one (a university) voluntarily belongs to.
So you are skipping defining “illegal benefit” and going straight to the ethics question? Alright.
I do not condone any academic fraud, which you equated to “receiving benefits” in your original post. As for receiving benefits, I am not too keen on those, either.
If I had a kid who was a voluntary member of the NCAA I would want him to follow all of the NCAA rules. But on the other hand, I am not quite ready to label any current player or his family as “cheating, corrupt, crooked, dirty*, dirty-dealing, dishonorable, disreputable, double-crossing, fake, fishy, flimflam, fly-by-night, illegal, improper, mercenary, scam*, shady*, sharp*, slick*, slippery*, sneaky*, two-faced, two-timing, underhand, unfair, unprincipled, unprofessional, unscrupulous, wrong”….. for each and every time they break any NCAA rule.
Are you?
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"I watch (UK) every night... I am going to support them for the rest of my life. I'm a Wildcat for the rest of my life." -- JWall, 2/8/11
I wouldn't apply all those synonyms
but I might apply some of them.
Sadly,
this whole affair is going to get worse before it gets better.
One has to wonder how genuine Miami was in letting new coach Al Golden know how disturbing and plentiful the violations were. The NCAA has been on their campus for over 5 months, so they had to know the situation was ugly, and only going to get uglier.
The fact that the "athletics personel" were involved...
in giving enticements to players to enroll at Miami is very serious. It’s one thing for a rogue booster but when its staff and/or university employees, you are in deep doodoo. And this is just for current players. Once they are done investigating the entirety of this situation, they will find lots more of the same with former players from what I have seen. This will not rise to the SMU death penalty sanctions but I think it will be worse than USC.
I can’t speak to each individual suspension b/c I am not sure what each player is exactly “charged” with.
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hah hah hah I just pasted George Bush’s head on on the body of Gisele Bundchen. Boy, am I clever.
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