NCAA Rules: Why Are John Calipari And Pete Carroll Smiling?
So what does a former Southern California Trojan football coach and the current Kentucky Wildcats basketball coach have in common, and what could possibly amuse them so? What they have in common is that both of them were smitten by the NCAA Committee on Infractions chaired by Paul Dee. What they are smiling about is that Paul Dee was the Miami Athletics Director during most of the period when Nevin Shapiro alleges there was unprecedented hanky-panky going on in Coral Gables.
Paul Dee was the chair of the COI that declared the Memphis 2007-08 season void and sent Calipari to his new job at Kentucky under a cloud, and then a year or so later crushed USC and Pete Carroll with a stentorian remark that will ring forever in his own ears, "...high-profile athletes demand high-profile compliance."
Mike DeCourcy of Sporting News pegs Dee's involvement in the Memphis matter thus:
Essentially, Memphis had the greatest season in its history wiped from the record because the Tigers used a player, Derrick Rose, the NCAA clearinghouse had ruled academically eligible. This seemed odd on the face of it. Memphis president Shirley Raines argued the university had followed guidance provided by the NCAA, but Dee and his committee determined that approval had been in error because the Educational Testing Service invalidated Rose’s SAT score—following the conclusion of his freshman season. "Strict liability," he said.
Seems almost quaint now, doesn’t it? If placed into the middle of the mess allegedly transpiring with the Miami Hurricanes during Dee’s final years as athletics director at The U, Rose’s situation wouldn’t merit mention. Not salacious enough. Not sleazy enough.
Indeed, it does seem quaint when compared to the emerging debacle at Miami, even assuming only 50% of what convicted fraudster Nevin Shapiro has revealed so far is actually true. Compared to the accusations Shapiro is chucking about like backpack nukes in the general direction of Coral Gables, but also hitting cities as far away as Louisville, Derrick Rose's alleged (and unproven) academic fraud seems as mild as jaywalking.
The Memphis decision was roundly criticized for all sorts of reasons, not the least of which being that the NCAA was for Derrick Rose before it was against him, and the novel new "strict liability" interpretation from the committee over for which Dee was chair. John Calipari was understandably unhappy with the Memphis ruling, probably even more so than we'll ever know.
Indeed, the phrase "Strict liability" in the NCAA context was pretty much coined by Dee's committee, and already, people are lining up to mock Dee for what looks like hypocrisy in both the Memphis and USC matter. Most of the sports world is convinced that Miami had to have some idea about Shapiro's apparently naked illicit involvement with the program, and the fingers will all be pointed straight at Dee as the man in charge of the athletics department at Miami during most of the shenanigans.
It really doesn't matter if Dee was completely ignorant or not -- frankly, it would probably be better if he knew and looked the other way. That way, at least, he wouldn't come off looking like a complete buffoon, but merely an ethics-free hypocrite.
So, lets see: Behind door #1 is "clueless moron." "See-no-evil scofflaw" is behind door #2. It looks like Dee is going for door #1 and the "clueless moron" defense:
Frantz said he never saw Shapiro at booster meetings. Former Miami athletic director Paul Dee, who went on to become the chairman of the NCAA Committee on Infractions, said he didn’t have any suspicions of Shapiro. [my emphasis]
No matter what really happened, no matter how many truly good reasons there may or may not have been for the failure of Dee's oversight, the result will be the same. At least he can share the blame a little bit with the NCAA -- "Yeah, my sports management IQ may only be marginally higher than an amoeba's, but look who hired me to chair their committee!"
The Memphis fans are already having a field day, and you know Southern Cal is ripping and roaring. Even the Pac-12 commissioner, Larry Scott, is throwing haymakers Dee's way:
Safe to say [Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott] agrees with many that Dee blasting the Trojans while his own department ran amok makes him a hypocrite.
Somewhere between here and the Dominican Republic, John Calipari is smiling at the rich irony, and Pete Carroll is probably falling out of his $65,000 antique armchair laughing uproariously.
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Miami Orange Bowl and KY
Does anyone remember who the Orange Bowl official is that made fun of UK when UL went to the Orange Bowl? Was he associated with Univ Miami?
should this latest round of misconduct
be more of an indictment of the NCAA or Miami? it seems to swing both ways with Paul Dee and company. NCAA lets Miami off the hook (which others have come the same conclusion) and their greed and not good are on display. by off the hook i am going with anything less than the death penalty. this will be interesting to see how the NCAA squirms out of this one. Miami will be fine. other than some sanctions and a few stiff penalties it’ll still be a lovely place to attend school, education won’t suffer, and they’ll return with players just as good AND with chips on their shoulders. they may not have the same number of all world athletes they are accustomed to for a while, but that will go away as well.
and holy moly! check out Paul Dee’s pic!!! that boy has been living large. his hands are probably soft as butter! tell me HE DIDN’T KNOW!!!! i see knowledge of those alleged affairs on his right jowl plain as day!!! if ever there was one who could literally BOUNCE BACK he’s it! hahahaha!! gluttony in persona!
I have kleptomania,
but when it gets bad,
I take something for it.
And lest we forget: Dee's new definition of strict liability
Dee on Tuesday also defended Miami’s atmosphere of compliance practices in the football program.
“We did all the things we thought were appropriate,” Dee said. “But the things you can control are the things you have your hands on — like grades, discipline on campus, financial aid. But when you get further out, when you get to a booster who has decided to do something inappropriate, you have less control, because they are out in the environment and we’re not there.”
Hat tip to Chirop1, who posted the quote from ESPN here at ASOB, yesterday.
No matter where you're at, there you are
Well, that comment
sure flies in the face of “strict liability” doesn’t it? This buffoon needs to be dismissed immediately from any position he may still hold in the NCAA and all rulings by his committee should be reviewed. That barely audible “plink” you just heard was the last tiny piece of NCAA credibility falling to the ground.
I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.
we alabama fans
are also rather enjoying seeing dee hoisted by his own petard.
Remember the Rose Bowl: The Story of the Alabama Crimson Tide & the Grandaddy of Them All
Seems quite a few people are.
I guess that’s one bit of schadenfreude we can all enjoy. :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Well, I would love to be able to say that this is just another one of those, gotcha! scenarios
but this is much more than that.
We have discussed this over and over, but the guidelines and penalties have to change.
The people enforcing the rules have to change,
The system has to become pro active instead of reactive……
The list goes on and on……ugly does not even begin to cover this one
And the sad part is, there are probably programs out there with worse going on.
I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!
by Greg Alan Edwards on Aug 18, 2011 5:42 PM EDT reply actions
To be fair ...
… a lot of this is people assuming the worst. Sometimes, that isn’t true. Let’s be honest — people assume the worst about Calipari. The best we can say about all this is that he’s not the only one. Paul Dee is really just a target of opportunity, but a really juicy one.
It doesn’t much matter though. It looks bad, and therefore, to most, it is bad. It’s one of them thar “no win sichiasuns.” Nobody minds it when the sanctimonious wind up hoist by their own petard, and are usually falling all over each other to light the fuse.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Well, my only assumption at this point is that Paul Dee was the AD at Miami when all of these
alleged violations, which have photographic, hardcopy and corroborating witness testmonial evidence to substantiate them, occurred. During which time, his OTHER job was to sit on the committee on infractions and pass judgement on other schools when evidence of this very same type was presented to he and his fellow committee members to review.
I will not draw any other conclusions until evidence supports them.
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Aug 18, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Well ...
… We know that can’t be true, because the check written to Louisville assistant Clint Hurtt was dated in 2009, and Dee left in 2008, where he went to the NCAA.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
That isnt the only one if I remember correctly,
besides, he gave them his bank statements, they dont need the cancelled checks do they?
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Aug 18, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
and Dee sat on that committee from 2002-forward......he was only the chair
after he left Miami…….
I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!
by Greg Alan Edwards on Aug 18, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually didn't know that.
But my point is still the same. Infractions clearly happened after Dee left the NCAA, probably right up to Shapiro’s indictment, and possibly even after that. After all, he was indicted for fraud, not NCAA violations. :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Glenn Logan on Aug 18, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I bowed out of the whole "Gotcha!" Game
in regards to other schools and their NCAA Violations a while ago. As such, I recently missed out on some prime finger-pointing opportunities like: Bruce Pearl, Ohio State and Cam Newton. It didn’t bother me to sit them out.
I just can’t bring myself to care very much about any of it. Probably in part because I know that as the MONEY only grows LARGER around the business of college football and basketball in future years then stories like this of NCAA rule-breaking will just grow more and more frequent. It will never end. And it is already frequent enough to have become pretty boring to me whenever the next new “Hey, they broke some NCAA rules!” story pops up.
The NCAA is running a bizarre business (powered by “amateurs”- woo hoo!) with really bizarre personnel choices (like this Dee character) in key positions. How anyone can support this organization is a mystery to me.
Of all the many, many NCAA rule-breaking stories out there right now, though, this one is probably the most entertaining. Based on his USC and Memphis quotes, Dee is pretty deserving of whatever fallout comes his way. He probably shouldn’t have run his mouth so much when dropping the hammer on those schools.
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"I watch (UK) every night... I am going to support them for the rest of my life. I'm a Wildcat for the rest of my life." -- JWall, 2/8/11
Yeah.
If you have to swing a big stick, it’s better to avoid the platitudes.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
"The NCAA is running a bizarre business
(powered by "amateurs"- woo hoo!) with really bizarre personnel choices (like this Dee character) in key positions. How anyone can support this organization is a mystery to me."
Kinda makes you think about that top 64 teams breaking away and forming a super conference with regional divisions idea. Cal may be a visionary. ;j
I have kleptomania,
but when it gets bad,
I take something for it.
careful crip.....you are treading on shaky ground by suggesting that the NCAA might not be a
viable institution any longer…..lol
I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!
by Greg Alan Edwards on Aug 19, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
heyyyy i was just mimicking Cal's idea!
don’t shoot the macaw!!
I have kleptomania,
but when it gets bad,
I take something for it.
One thing I must disagree with
Even alleged academic fraud is never mild.
see, jdog, that is a major part of the problem......
the mindset……
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Aug 18, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand why I would have to explain it to you.
Just kidding. :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
ok....ok.....I guess I asked for that one.....lol
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Aug 19, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Well ...
… First, it was meant as a simile.
Second, comparing the two is what made it “mild,” much as a 5-ton TNT explosion is “mild” compared to a nuclear blast.
Of course, why I should have to explain this to a smart guy like you completely escapes me. :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Eddie Sutton
was the president of the National Association of Basketball Coaches when all the crap broke at UK under him. I guess representing universities at a high level doesn’t preclude dishonest behavior at home.
I guess not.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Glenn Logan on Aug 18, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Buffoonery
I’m starting to see a pattern here! 1st it’s Gene Smith chairing the NCAA selection committee, all the while Tressel is captaining the tattoos and cars for memorabilia ship! Now this newest buffoon Dee is the chair of the infractions committee, while this astronomically wayward booster, is greasing the palm of everyone down to the waterboy! ……Kinda makes Bruce Pearls picnic, reek of nitpicking huh?…….The NCAA is possibly the most inept governing body in sight, with the possible exception of the the United States of Lobbyist….er I mean’t Congress….Can we fire the whole danged bunch and start over?…..Sheesh!!
This is why the AD's, Presidents, Coaches, and all other University personnel
should have no other position inside the NCAA other than a voting membership. Take away the committee seats, chairs, allowing them to police themselves, and the nonsense will then be handled by people who have no vested interest in how the violations are handled.
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Aug 19, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Well ...
… there probably is a better way to do it. I’ll have some commentary up on that later today, when I have the time to fully cogitate on it.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Somehow you made
that sound incredibly painful. I’ll check in later to see if you regurgitated all of that cogitation.
I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.
NCAA Motto:
“It takes a crook to spot a crook. Now hiring.”
Don't take life too seriously; no one gets out alive.
yeah, but who wants to list the accomplishments on their resume as a laundry list of NCAA Violations???
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Aug 19, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
And Kelvin Sampson was the head of the ethics committee, I believe.
Clearly, a position of authority representing what’s "right’ doesn’t mean the person in that position believes the rules apply to him.
by Mr Kilgore Trout on Aug 19, 2011 9:12 AM EDT reply actions
Was he in charge of the NABC's ethics committee?
I thought he was just president when it was formed.
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I can't believe I'm linking to a Richard Justice article
But SMU. Pony Express. F Craig James. Never forget.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/justice/7703545.html
Now I know why James was such a pain for his kid's college coach......
he probably thought he wasn’t getting paid enough to put up with the abuse……lol
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Aug 19, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions

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