The NCAA Re-Defines "Petty" -- Joe Hall to now assist Calipari in coaching the Dominican Republic National Team
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John Clay of the Herald-Leader has the story. As unbelievable as it may be.
I thought coach Hall reflected quite nicely the feelings of most UK fans who are flabbergasted to the point of nausea over the NCAA's decision to not allow Hall and former UK player Sam Bowie to coach the Kentucky Pros as they take on the Dominican Republic National Team in an August 15 exhibition in Rupp Arena. Ever the voice of logic, Hall told Clay:
"We didn't do anything (Hall & Bowie). I don't understand how the former players can play in the game, but we can't coach. That makes no sense to me. I'm no danger to anybody. I would just be sitting on the bench. We're not doing any real coaching.
"It's been very confusing. Very confusing."
John Calipari, though, stepped up and offered Hall the opportunity to assist the UK head coach in his coaching duties with the Dominican Republic team. How that's allowed, yet Hall and Bowie can't coach the Kentucky squad, is well beyond my means of comprehension, but I'm certainly happy coach Hall will now be able to participate in the event.
No word on whether Bowie will be allowed in the building.
The NCAA, with each passing ruling, is quickly losing credibility, and worse, becoming a laughingstock (in some circles that evolution took place long ago). As long as Chairman of the Infractions Committee Dennis Thomas' import to the "organization" rises above that of a part-time assistant window washer, and as long as they continue to persecute Kentucky and John Calipari, and as long as they continue to fumble away opportunities to do the right thing (see Cam Newton, Ohio State, and Washington's Raphael Chillious), then their precipitous drop off the radar of reason will further accelerate the calls for disbanding the disgraced body, and starting over ... or not.
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Herky Rupp as coach..?
I posted this below but thought appropriate to mention it again. We would be continuing the rich tradition of our past and honoring it at the same time.
A man is nothing more than a summation of his scars!
Excellent Idea
Make this happen. They wont even have to ask him to wear a brown suit.
What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know,
But what we know for sure...but just ain't so.
-Mark Twain
by BigBlue1976 on Jul 30, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I think I'd vote for Larry Brown.
Then the NCAA could go back and vacate all of North Carolina’s wins while he was coaching there.
Don't take life too seriously; no one gets out alive.
Hall and Bowie ....
should flash signs, kind of like a third base coach would, to the Legends coach just to keep the NCAA guessing …
One thing this farce does bring out is that UK is running very clean program ….. no doubt the NCAA would pounce (poor choice of words??) on us at the slightest hint of ANY violation.
They were afraid of the rolled up program.....!!!!
Cowards and fools the lot of them.
I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!
by Greg Alan Edwards on Jul 30, 2011 8:43 AM EDT reply actions
Just curious
where are the profits from the game going? Anyone know? Not trying to start something at all, just curious.
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CincyBlue - No, this "Legends" game is not a charity event.
The game is being put on by a ‘for profit’ corporation called ProCamps Worldwide - with sponsors Urban Active and Orange Leaf. Rupp Arena Website Link
ProCamps Worldwide is an event management company that puts on camps and other types of events using pro-athletes to headline the event. In basketball, where I pay the most attention to the camps/events they put on, “Rondo Camp” is big right now, but other big names who run camps through ProCamps include: Dwayne Wade, Levin Durant, Dwight Howard, Danny Granger.
Calipari uses them to run his camps with pro-players like the one running right now (Jul 28 – 30) in the Joe Craft Center at UK co-hosted by Tayshaun Prince – Brandon Knight, DeAndre Liggins and Josh Harrellson were also working parts of the camp. CoachCalCamp Link
Anyway, ProCamps is a big-time player putting on camps/events not only with NBA players but also with pro-players from the NFL, MLB, and the men’s and women’s soccer leagues. Because their NCAA/amateur status prevents universities from putting on the event when professional athletes are being paid, an outside event management company has to be used….Note: The Kentucky players are all being paid for their participation in this game, which is reasonable given the professional members of the Dominican Republic National Team are all being paid (Not Eloy Vargas!) to be on the team.
That's Kevin Durant, ...
not Levin, for those of you wondering if Kevin had a brother or something.
;-)
Also, did anyone catch WHAS last night, with Coach Hall's interview?
He sounded genuinely upset about all of this. He said he was embarrassed.
Coach, if you are reading this, We love you man. We’re with you. And we’d all have loved to see you coach the UK Legends team. The fact that you are not is horse manure, plain and simple.
If you want to skip Matt Jones — interview starts at the 9 minute mark.
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All this group (NCAA) needs is some face paint and a clown costume,but..
..they are already clowns without the props!
That would be disgracing Clowns as a whole
And some I’m sure are more mentally efficient to handle the NCAA duties that these dirty low-down imbeciles are capable of.
A man is nothing more than a summation of his scars!
by KansasUKCat on Jul 30, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess the fact is that not many schools
could do this kind of thing. First of all, not many coaches have high enough profile to coach another nation’s team. Second, not many schools could find enough former players still active in the NBA to field a team. Finally, the majority of fans wouldn’t give a damn if most other schools tried to do it.
"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena . . .who spends himself for a worthy cause . . ."
Oscar Combs Tweeting... this may not be NCAA's fault.
4 tweets Sat afternoon — roughly.
“I don’t really know how to say this, but I may need to make big-time apology here in next few days. When you’re wrong, you need to admit it.”
“Maybe, just maybe, big brother NCAA wasn’t/isn’t as bad as I & lot of other people made them out to be recently. In time, all will come out.”
“To clarify. Not saying NCAA is great. Just saying no one, including NCAA, should be criticized for something it may not be guilty of.”
“Sorry, I can’t say more now, but for the time being, you won’t hear me lashing out at NCAA until all this is cleared up.”
Huh, what, who,?
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Based on the wording of Peevy's release, it read like the NCAA stepped in
I’m sure we’ll find out more in the days to come.
how can it not be due to the NCAA one way or another?
There certainly isn’t any legal reason preventing Hall/Bowie from coaching and the game from being on tv.
Age is always advancing. And I believe it's up to no good. - Harry Dresden
Other tweets and toots
Combs again: “If anyone believes chapter-by-chapter version of Joe B saga that has played out so far, I’ve come some swamp land in Durham, NC to sell you.”
from Oscar: "It’ll probably still be a few days before it get to the bottom of the “BeasmanGate.” But we will, eventually."
My question: Who is Beasman?
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And this
http://kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=88339
Hot dog, this is fun! It’s not Algebra 2 gate but what the heck!
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NCAA: We Didn't Do It!
Public speculation, fueled by inaccurate media reporting, incorrectly assumed the NCAA denied former Kentucky coach Joe B. Hall the opportunity to coach in an exhibition game against the Dominican Republic. In reality, the University of Kentucky withdrew its involvement and association with this event due to a conflict with member mandated NCAA bylaws. These bylaws prohibit member schools from participating in events that pay former players and raise funds to benefit teams that include prospective student-athletes.
Joe B. likely to coach ex-Cats.
"Statistics are no substitute for judgment" — Henry Clay (my namesake)
I'm sure it is not the NCAA's fault in any way, shape, or form.
And that is exactly what the NCAA told UK and Cal and they expect them to clear all of this up. Regardless of what the NCAA said at first when UK communicated with them. UK misinterpreted what the NCAA told them. And Oscar will of course play along because he really has no choice if he wants what is best for the school’s programs.
Kentucky Basketball - The Reason for Living
This is all french for : If you had done it the way we told you to, there would be no problem.....
I hate people who say “I told you so”……grrrr
I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!
by Greg Alan Edwards on Jul 30, 2011 7:38 PM EDT reply actions
so, seriously...
television and/or radio coverage? Pretty please? If Joe B now maybe is going to be allowed to coach and/or assist with this team/the other team (I really can’t keep up), could this possibly mean the no coverage fatwa could also be reversed? Pleeeeease?
by blue kentucky girl on Jul 30, 2011 10:55 PM EDT reply actions
Need a laugh gang?
Read the comment section [page 2] at Ken’s link to John Clay. PG is accused of always bashing Cal. ’-)
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
LOL, good catch a2d2.
I’m not a regular reader of the H-L comment threads, but I do check them out from time to time, and as far as I can tell Paris is regularly chastised for being so negative. I really don’t think he’s a fan of UK, just an instigator.
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