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Kentucky Wildcats Post-1977 All-Final Four Team -- Small Forwards

Darius Miller was the small forward for the 2010-11 Wildcats.

[Editor's Note:  I had to issue a correction to this post as I erroneously listed Walter McCarty as the 1996 small forward.  It should have been Derek Anderson.  That's what I get for trying to do two things at once.  Please re-vote if you have already voted once]

As we move along to selecting our All-Final Four team, the next position up for the consideration of the Big Blue Nation is the three spot, or small forward.

There have been some great players at Kentucky in this position.  The three spot has historically been a high-scoring position for the Wildcats, and the position is often a pivotal one for team success.  So without further ado, let me introduce the candidates for All-Final Four small forward, post-1977:

Jack Givens, 1978 -- Nobody will every forget the performance of Jack "Goose" Givens versus the Duke Blue Devils in the 1978 national championship game.  His 41 points and 8 rebounds remains one of the all-time great NCAA championship game single-player performances ever.  Givens' accomplishments and plaudits are too ling to list, but among them was  three-time all-American, 1978 National Player of the Year, and Most Outstanding Player in the 1978 NCAA Final Four.  Givens averaged 18 points and 6.8 rebounds for Kentucky in 1978, and was drafted 16th overall in the first round of the 1978 NBA Draft by the Atlanta Hawks.

Kenny Walker, 1984 -- It seems funny to think of Kenny Walker as a small forward, but that's the position he played for the 1984 Final Four team.  Walker was mostly known as a power player, doing most of his damage inside.  But compared to Melvin (Big Dipper) Turpin and Sam Bowie, Walker was the little guy on the front line.  Walker was not an all-American in 1984, but he was in 1986, as well as the SEC Player of the Year.  Walker averaged 13 points and 5.9 rebounds in 1984, and was drafted 5th overall in the first round of the 1986 NBA Draft by the New York Knicks.

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Rodrick Rhodes, 1993 -- Rodrick Rhodes was ranked the #2 recruit in the nation, and was a Parade and McDonald's All American, the most decorated recruit of Rick Pitino's career at Kentucky at that time.  Rhodes was a classic slasher, but struggled with his perimeter shooting throughout most of his career at Kentucky, but not his first year, where he shot 38% from long range.   In 1993, his first year with the Wildcats, Rhodes was more of a role player as a freshman than a star.  Rhodes averaged 9 points and 2.4 rebounds in 1993, and transferred to Southern Cal in 1995.  Rhodes was drafted 24th overall in the first round of the 1997 NBA Draft by the Houston Rockets.

Derek Anderson, 1996 -- [Note -- an earlier version erroneously listed Walter McCarty in this spot] Derrick Anderson, originally from Louisville Doss, signed and played two years for the Ohio St. Buckeyes before transferring to Kentucky.  Anderson was a sweet-shooting, athletic wing with a big smile and a dynamic transition game.  Anderson was selected to the All-Regional team in 1996.  He averaged 9 points and 3.4 rebounds, and was drafted #13 overall in 1997 by the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Ron Mercer, 1997 -- Ron Mercer was the first and only consensus national #1 high school player recruited by Rick Pitino during his tenure at Kentucky, a Parade and McDonald's all-American.  Mercer was a dynamic player who could shoot, get out on the break, and rebound his position.  Mercer was a consensus all-American in his sophomore and final year at Kentucky.  Mercer averaged 18 points and 5.3 rebounds, and was drafted #6 overall in the 1997 NBA Draft by the Boston Celtics.

Allen Edwards, 1998 -- Allen Edwards was the starter in 1998 for the surprising Kentucky Wildcats.  Edwards was Mr. Basketball in the state of Florida in 1994.  Edwards was a solid but unspectacular small forward for Kentucky, although an underrated passer.  Edwards averaged 9 points and 3.2 rebounds for Kentucky in 1998, and was not drafted.

Darius Miller, 2011 -- Darius Miller was the three man for last year's team, and a very good one.  Miller was Kentucky's 2008 Mr. Basketball and a Parade all-American.  Miller has developed into a good shooter and a dangerous scorer inside versus smaller players.  In 2011, Miller was the SEC Tournament MVP, and averaged 11 points and 4.6 rebounds.  Miller will return for his senior season in 2011-12.

Cast your vote for the favorite.  The top two in the voting will be placed on the team.

Poll
Who is your choice for the post-1977 All-Final Four small forward?
Jack Givens, 1978
234 votes
Kenny Walker, 1984
85 votes
Rodrick Rhodes, 1993
23 votes
Derek Anderson, 1996
50 votes
Ron Mercer, 1997
46 votes
Allen Edwards, 1998
0 votes
Darius Miller, 2011
5 votes

443 votes | Poll has closed

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Still Givens For My Vote

41 points in NC game seals the deal (in my opinion).

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 18, 2011 7:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed.

Tough not to pick him.

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by Glenn Logan on Jul 18, 2011 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, too

Duke had a good game plan. Givens blew them away with his unconscious mid range game. They had no plan for that. And he freed Robey up to do his remarkable 20 point, 8 of 11 from the floor, 11 rebound damage.

Side note: Can’t wait for the “Center” poll. THAT will get interesting.

No matter where you're at, there you are

by cincyblue on Jul 18, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Big Dan in a landslide...!

A man is nothing more than a summation of his scars!

by KansasUKCat on Jul 19, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dan played pre-1977, though.

He won’t be on the ballot.

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by Glenn Logan on Jul 20, 2011 6:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup.

We’ve had some great guys, Walker being one of my favorites. But the “Goose” was definitely the man.

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by GriffinRC on Jul 18, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

In my typical fashion

I opened up the website this morning and thought there was something wrong with my computer (before I read the editor’s note).

I imagine we’ll get another shot at Walter McCarty.

by jdogblue on Jul 18, 2011 9:08 AM EDT reply actions  

We will, no doubt.

The question is where? I guess I’ll have to throw him in at center, although that was not at all his position. Antoine Walker was more of a center than McCarty was.

Sometimes players just don’t fit neatly into positions.

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by Glenn Logan on Jul 18, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

1996

From memory, Walker played PF in the low post (more typical of C).

McCarty (and Pope as his back-up) played C in the high post (more typical of F).

The 96 team really had no C other than Nazr Mohammed.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 18, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's seems about right ...

… although McCarty often played on the wing. He had a better percentage from 3 than Tony Delk, and only Epps and Delk made more. McCarty had 1 more 3-point attempt and 5 more makes than Anderson did, and Anderson was a darn good 3-point shooter.

That’s not a center’s game. He may have been the center nominally, but his game was between a 3 and a 4, the 3 when UK went big with Pope and Walker. He was often on the wing, depending on the setup. But I also recall him playing some high post, just as you say.

Just one of those “put your best players out there and call them what you want” kind of things, I guess.

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by Glenn Logan on Jul 18, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's right, Glenn.

Players gotta do what players gotta do—PLAY. Doesn’t matter what they’re called, there are only so many functions that have to be accomplished, and somebody’s gotta do them.

"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena . . .who spends himself for a worthy cause . . ."

by oldcat'69 on Jul 18, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Case In Point, Rupp's Runts

Any one of them but Dampier could play 3 or 4 positions. None was really a C.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 18, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rodrick Rhodes

I haven’t been on here for awhile so maybe this is old news but somebody told me a couple days ago that RR got a coaching job? Just curious.

Oh and there is no debate on the topic here…Goooooooose!!!!!!!!

by maysvilleblue on Jul 18, 2011 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes

Somewhere in Eastern KY – not sure where (exactly).

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 18, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cordia HS in Hazard

Looked it up myself. The internet is a wonderful thing. .

by maysvilleblue on Jul 18, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's also going to run the local Community Center

He did not want to teach classes

No matter where you're at, there you are

by cincyblue on Jul 18, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

He’s coaching high school right now.

I’m really happy for him, and hope he does well.

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by Glenn Logan on Jul 18, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ron Mercer

Jack “Goose” Givens has to be the best and most popular player on this list, but Ron Mercer should be a close second in my opinion. It’s true that I was only 2 when Kenny Walker’s Wildcat team made the Final Four in 84’ and therefore may be biased towards the “newer” players but Mercer was a BEAST in 97’. When Derek Anderson went down with the knee injury, I remember thinking that this team would NEVER make the final four without him. (I was young, what else can I say to defend my lack of faith?) Mercer stepped up his level of play, and led us to a near overtime victory against the Miles Simon led Arizona Wildcats by scorching the nets from everywhere on the floor. With D.A. on the floor, the 97 team would have been as unstoppable as the 96’ or 98’ cats, but without him Ron Mercer picked up the slack and led us to the title game firmly cementing him as one of my all-time favorite Wildcats

by Hillbilly Bennett on Jul 18, 2011 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Mercer At FF In 1997

19 points versus Minnesota in semii-finals, then 13 versus Arizona in NC game (per Jon Scott website).

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 18, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mercer was really good.

No doubt about it.

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by Glenn Logan on Jul 18, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know ...

… it’s just a shame that Walker will never get a vote in this exercise for his true position, which is the 4. He was one of the great 4’s in Kentucky basketball history.

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by Glenn Logan on Jul 18, 2011 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Givens gets this b/c Walker was more of a roll player in '84.

In ’85 and ’86 he was the team, but in ’84 he was out of position and, while capable of being the star, played behind the pretty good tandem of Turpin and Bowie.

Mercer and Anderson were both great players, but with only 2 years it is hard not to go with the second (or third now?) leading scorer in UK history who had his best game against Duke in the NC game.

by JackBluto on Jul 18, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Walker Started As Frosh In 84

But at the 3. Bowie played 4 and Turpin 5. Bearup redshirted. Bennett subbed at 3 and 4. Bowie moved over to 5 sometimes.

F Walker and Bennett. C Bowie and Turpin. G Master and Beal plus Harden and Blackmon. The roster had (8) HS A-A (counting Bearup).

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 18, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Should have won it all.

Classic meltdown in Georgetown game.

by JackBluto on Jul 19, 2011 12:40 AM EDT reply actions  

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