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Kentucky Basketball: Is Duke Chicken?

This post over at Duke Basketball Report is the sort of every-so-often shot across the bow that websites from both the Kentucky Wildcats and Duke Blue Devils occasionally fire at each other.  To me, it's kind of fun to go back and forth with the Blue Devil bloggers and their condescending, insufferable fans.  Of course, I'm sure their opinion of Kentucky fans is no less unflattering.

It seems that John Calipari told the assembled masses in the Telford YMCA in Richmond yesterday that Duke "will not play [Kentucky]," implying, apparently, that Calipari and UK had inquired about the possibility of playing a series with Duke which had been rejected by Duke.  DBR had this to say:

We’re not privy to any negotiations, but we know that Duke and Kentucky have talked about it in the recent past and there was an interest.  For whatever reason it hasn’t happened.

Like DBR, we are not privy to any discussions that may have been had between Duke and Kentucky, but unlike them, we are inclined to take Coach Calipari at his word -- for whatever reason, Duke will not play us.  It may just be a scheduling thing, or perhaps the schools cannot agree on a forum. Calipari is a fan of having marquis matchups like this at neutral sites, and perhaps UK and Duke could not agree on the sites or the sites were simply not available in the time frames the teams had in mind.

More likely, Duke just doesn't want to lose to a better basketball team.

Star-divide

As to the rest of DBR's commentary, they suggest that UK fans have not gotten over The Shot yet.  That's just silly.  Yes, we all remember that game with regret, but that loss was avenged six years later in the NCAA South Regional Final in St. Petersburg, where UK defeated current Duke assistant coach Steve Wojohowski and his Blue Devil team en route to the national championship. 

I can't speak for all Kentucky fans, but for most of the ones I know, we put "Paid" to The Shot in 1998.  The famous 1992 game was a great one in every way, and I'll never forget how sad I was that we lost, but that's just part of college basketball.  I'll also never forget how classy coach Mike Krzyzewski was in victory, and the way he sought out Cawood Ledford after the game.  It was one of the truly great moments in Duke's history, as well as Kentucky's, and despite the outcome, it is a memory that I cherish.

What I do not cherish and have not gotten over is not The Shot, but The Stomp.  The Stomp was unforgivable, the biggest reason being Duke fans not only don't apologize for it, but actively applaud it still, to their eternal shame.  It was one of those moments in college basketball that are impossible to look back on with anything but righteous anger, and of course, Duke fans as a whole reflect the petulant adolescence of Laettner as described by Bill Lyon of the Philadelphia Enquirer on BigBlueHistory.net, even today:

"In front of several million witnesses, and replay, Laettner planted one sneak midway between the stomach and the chest of a Kentucky player who had fouled him and who was prone on the floor. He did it on purpose, not to stomp in a rib cage, but in petulance. It was a pouty, adolescent act, gratuitous, designed not to injure but to intimidate and to instigate. He turned his back and walked away, and it reminded you of the snotty little playground provocateur in grade school who would push from behind and then run inside." - by Bill Lyon, Philadelphia Inquirer, "A Perfect Case Against Duke," April 3, 1992.

DBR then worries about coming to Rupp Arena:

Nothing other than a win could come out of such a trip, and the rest would be bad, particularly if Duke did win.

Poor wittle Dookies!  The Big Bad Big Blue might say some harsh things and hurt their feewings. 

This sort of commentary makes me respect the Louisville Cardinals far more than the Blue Devils.  The Cardinals come into Rupp Arena more or less fearlessly every two years with their traitorous coach in tow, and yet somehow get safely back to Louisville, even on the extremely rare occasions where they do manage a victory.  Nobody is killed or maimed, just basketball.  Unless, of course, you knee DeMarcus Cousins in the head.  Then, there might be a little maiming going on.

And we’re guessing that Kentucky isn’t exactly fired up for a trip to Cameron either.

Wrong again.  We'd like nothing better than the opportunity to thrash you in front of your famous Crazies, and trust us, we are totally unconcerned about any violence in Durham, even if Duke has historically been the one to do physical damage -- first by stomping Aminu Timberlake, then by defacing Tyler Hansbrough.  But hey, we're not afraid.  We'll even bring you some wine and cheese to make you feel more comfortable with the idea.

By the way, you’ll notice that Duke was willing to play Calipari’s Memphis team (and beat them) in New York a few years back.

Whatever.  As he so often does, Calipari says something that is partially true while withholding the rest.

Yes.  Which makes us think it's more a fear of Kentucky than Calipari.  Frankly, I have concluded that Duke fears getting beaten like a red-headed stepchild by the Wildcats, and they understandably want no part of it.  Also, given that DBR said they weren't privy to the Duke-Kentucky game conversations, how, prithee, do they know that Calipari is withholding anything?  Oh, I know -- his lips are moving, right?  Never heard that before.

Most likely, Calipari's just telling it like it is.  It's on you, Duke boys and girls.  We're willing.  In fact, we're more than willing -- we're downright anxious.  Chomping at the bit.  Can't wait.  Bring. It. On.

That is, if you've got the nerve.

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It's your right and your ability, To become my perfect enemy

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Jun 16, 2011 8:03 AM EDT reply actions  

If I could rec this twice, I would

It's your right and your ability, To become my perfect enemy

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Jun 16, 2011 8:05 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Why do I have this vision

of Tru standing over the big black kettle, stirring it with a canoe paddle, all the while with an evil malicious grin on his face??

Greening it up Boss!

If your wings don't sweep....

by EagleTDL on Jun 16, 2011 8:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Don't forget the empty bottle of bourbon at his feet...

It's your right and your ability, To become my perfect enemy

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Jun 16, 2011 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nahhh...

He’d save that for the victory celebration afterwards!

If your wings don't sweep....

by EagleTDL on Jun 16, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd but not only for this
Poor wittle Dookies! The Big Bad Big Blue might say some harsh things and hurt their feewings.

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Jun 16, 2011 8:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Duke's weak schedule

This has been one of my main complaints for the last 5 years: DUKE ALWAYS HAS A WEAK NON-CONFERENCE SCHEDULE.

Why is that? In my opinion, Mike Krzyzewski is trying to get as many wins as possible before he retires. The weak schedule all but guaranteed he would become the all-time winningest coach, passing Bob Knight. And if that’s true, it’s a b.s. move.

by MNBlue on Jun 16, 2011 9:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Great read this morning-

I watched “Fab Five” for the second time last night, and watched as the ‘93 Puke team defeated Michigan. It was great Listening to Jalen Rose talk about how much he hated Puke. No doubt, we’d take them to the woodshed with the teams Cal has now…

"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"

by iam4ukintn on Jun 16, 2011 9:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Rec'd

Love, love, LOVE this!! :)

"Tink"

by kentuckygirl0724 on Jun 16, 2011 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Nov. 2012 in Atlanta

I’m sure there will be plenty of warm-up jawing at the Champions Classic in New York this November.

by DCBlueandWhite on Jun 16, 2011 10:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Yup

I am looking forward to that game very much.

3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.

by JLeverenz on Jun 16, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't understand

I thought UK and Duke were playing in the Champion’s Classic two years from now. Nonetheless, it seems to me that Duke and Syracuse habitually have two of the easiest pre-conference schedules. Boeheim won’t leave the state of New York and Duke won’t even leave town.

by chicagoblues on Jun 16, 2011 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Venues

It would not surprise me if the venue is an issue. Duke never wants to play a true road game in the non-conference schedule and the only neutral site they’ll schedule is MSG where there is a large Duke grad population.

3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.

by JLeverenz on Jun 16, 2011 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

My guess

is that Cal want to play them in Atlanta, but all K will agree to is playing in Greensboro (their NCAA home court).

by jdogblue on Jun 16, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nail. Head. Bang!

Well said, Tru. Shaking my head at the level of delusion required to think that UK is unwilling to set foot in their crappy little high-school bandbox.

by BCCatFan on Jun 16, 2011 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Thoughts

Well written article. Being a graduate of both Duke and UK—undergraduate and PhD respectively, I have quite an odd wardrobe (Kentucky shirt and Duke hat gets me a lot of weird looks in Lex) and ideas about this.

These two teams should absolutely play. Regardless of what fan base you are loyal to—if you know anything about college basketball, you would realize how good this match-up would be for revenue and college basketball as a whole. Thankfully they will be playing in Atlanta in 2012 and can’t wait to see them in the Georgia Dome.

I wish there could be a UK-Duke series much like the current UK-UNC (which is set to expire this coming season I believe). And while both sides knock the other’s venue, both atmospheres are absolutely amazing. I hope the Champion’s Classic will open some eyes that this needs to occur on a more regular basis.

by VeryBlue on Jun 16, 2011 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the thoughtful comment.

I agree. I wish we had a series with Duke just like we do with UNC.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Jun 16, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Duke, U Mad Brah?

It's your right and your ability, To become my perfect enemy

@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Jun 16, 2011 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Must be something in the water

This whole thing reminds me of this from a few weeks back and this very funny piece by the SBN Marquette blog.

Which leads me to wonder how many other schools/fans are out there who feel that some school is avoiding their school.

3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.

by JLeverenz on Jun 16, 2011 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

What does Duke/ Coach K have to gain

National exposure? Nope
Money? doubt it.
A better seed come March? Please, they could shoot bricks for 3 months and still get the most favorable seed from the NCAA than any other team.

This makes UK look petty. I don’t blame K. Nothing to win by playing UK. When you (UK) are the winningest program in history you don’t call out other teams to come play with you. They call out you. Let’s face it bbn, we inexplicably still have an inferiority complex.

No matter where you're at, there you are

by cincyblue on Jun 16, 2011 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I totally disagree.

Frankly, Duke has been the superior program over the last 20 years. That’s just a plain fact, like it or not, and I don’t. It’s time to set about rectifying that.

You and I may not like it, but in recent history, Duke has eaten our lunch. I think that’s all different right now, but I also think we have a lot more to prove than they do.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Jun 16, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I was saying

What does Duke have to prove by scheduling UK? Nothing… When we call them out to a gunfight at the UK corral, it makes us look weak. Let them have theirs. Coach K’s Duke has had a better 20 years. We’ll get a 2012 matchup and, God willing, a more important matchup this season. What more do we want? “Come on Dukies, come out and fight now us because we got the guns, again.” UK pride is better than that. Let them come to us, whenever that happens.

No matter where you're at, there you are

by cincyblue on Jun 16, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think it makes us look weak at all.

It makes us look hungry, and young, and ready. Besides, I really want to see a series with Duke.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Jun 16, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps Memory Fails Me ... Again

But I don’t recall UK itching for a series with Duke during the Smith/Gillispie years when the talent level was tilted considerably toward the Blue Devils. Chalk up another “wash rag” media moment for Calipari.

"Statistics are no substitute for judgment" — Henry Clay (my namesake)

by Wild Weasel on Jun 16, 2011 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Your memory is confirmed in part, and denied in part.

We were agitating for a series during most of the Smith years, but not the Gillispie ones.

We have a lot more to prove considering recent history. It’s time we proved it, now that we seem capable. Which is probably why they don’t want to play.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Jun 16, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

THANKS!

I thought I would just put 2 and 2 together…..LOL

by Sam Henson on Jun 17, 2011 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

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