NCAA Basketball: The Proposed Draft Deadlines
If you thought the May 8th withdrawal date for the NBA was too short, wait until you get a gander at the new proposed deadline -- that would be before the first day of the spring signing period. If that were this year, it would have been Tuesday. Of this week.
Mike Miller of NBC's Beyond the Arc is one of those understandably outraged:
The NCAA says the proposed rule change is intended to help players focus on academics during the spring semester, but that’s so disingenuous it’s worthy of a four-letter rant that I can’t provide here. We’re a family friendly site.
Instead, it’s to help coaches spend their Aprils by going fishing or golfing or whatever else they choose instead of helping their players make the best possible decision for their future. It’s completely ridiculous, unfair and self-serving.
Mike is right about it being self-serving, but I'm not really convinced it is designed to help coaches, although they surely do benefit. But the move to benefit coaches was the one that happened last year, that moved the withdrawal deadline to May 8. So why would the NCAA do this?
My perception of the NCAA as far as rules go is that it could care less about coaches. If it did, it would eliminate the July evaluation period -- that would do far more to free up coaches time than this particular rule. After all, most coaches are scrambling to grab last-minute recruits at this time of year.
So why narrow the aperture for entering the NBA almost to non-existence? Well, to me it seems pretty straightforward -- the NCAA does not want players making informed decisions about the league. Instead, it wants to make the barrier to league entry as high as possible, and one way of doing that is making it virtually impossible for players to get meaningful feedback from the NBA about their prospects.
In one way, Mike is absolutely right about this being unfair to the players -- players who are marginal, that is. It isn't unfair to Harrison Barnes, or Brandon Knight, or Terrence Jones -- players who know they are first-round draft picks and about whom the only question is a matter of how high, not if. Players like DeAndre Liggins or Travis Leslie, however, would be hamstrung by this rule. For marginal players, the NCAA is now giving coaches the support they need to recommend another year in good conscience -- how could a coach recommend such a jump without having any idea what the landing would be like?
When we complain about the "one-and-done" rule, many people's problems with it are the fact that it hurts players' chances at obtaining an education and puts them into the NBA meat grinder too quickly, and also creates a lack of continuity for NCAA teams. This rule appears intended to counteract that by forcing players to be more sure of themselves before they make the jump, or risk a hard landing in the NBADL or a choice to go to Europe to play. In other words, this rule is entirely consistent with the NCAA's mission, which ostensibly is not to help refill the player ranks of the NBA, but to help young men and women get a college education.
Let's get one thing perfectly straight, and here is where Mike and I part ways -- the NCAA's interests are better served by this rule. They have a legitimate interest in helping kids decide to stay in college longer, both for commercial self-serving reasons and for what they consider the best interests of the young men. This rule helps accomplish that, although in a somewhat cold-blooded way -- by denying them the ability to glean enough information from the league to make an informed decision when their prospects are marginal. Really good players won't be affected, but the ones who are likely to go, say, from #20 on will have much more to think about.
The NCAA is ostensibly not in cahoots with the NBA to act as a farm team for the Association. The NBA front offices, if left to their own devices, would surely make players stay at least three years in college before accepting them in the draft. The NBA Player's Association strongly opposes that, rightly or wrongly, and this point in the college season is the nexus upon which all these three interests collide. The NCAA is now baldly inserting its interests into the matter by forcing the NBA to find a mechanism to provide feedback while the professional season is still going on -- something the pros will probably be unwilling to do.
The complaint Mike is making, and with some justification, is that the NCAA is placing the future of some of these players in jeopardy. The truth is though, that is only the case if they decide to leave college rather than stay. What it is really doing is forcing young men to make big boy decisions without a safety net, something that all us adults who have been in the world a long time do every day. They can do the safe thing -- stay in college, get better, maybe earn a degree that will help them if their hoops dreams land on the rocks, or close their eyes and jump.
So I guess the question of whether these young men's interests are being sacrificed is a matter of who is right about what those interests are, or rather, should be.
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NCAA and NBA are playing high stakes poker here
The problem is they are playing with someone else’s money — that being the players.
I doubt either one will win the game of public opinion in this though. I’m all for keeping players in college. But decreasing the flow of information seems very inconsistent with the era we are living in.
I appreciate your analysis on this.
I remember
reading something about the ACC coaches wanting to know definitively who would be back before the spring signing period instead of having to wait on players making a decision about coming back a few weeks later.
The NCAA has set a precedent (for what that is worth) of allowing a player to miss the deadline and return to school with punishment of a few games suspension.
For an organization that makes millions on these young players to throw roadblocks in the path of their making informed career decisions is beyond the comprehension of a reasonable person.
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Good post, Glenn
It’s definitely a self-serving move by the NCAA, although one that could be mitigated anyway when the new NBA CBA comes out. Stern is pushing hard for a 2-year rule, and I think he just might get it.
I honestly would like to hear the baseball model proposed more often. Players can declare after HS, but if they decide to go to college they would then have to wait 3 years to go the NBA. Sure, we’d lose out on a lot of wunderkinds like John Wall, but we’d also stop seeing so many ill-advised decisions like Daniel Orton declaring just because he’s got tremendous upside potential. Is it better for Kentucky to get a Wall-type for 1 year, or an Orton-type for 3? Is it better for the NCAA as a whole? I’m not sure it’s THE right answer, but it’s a plausible suggestion.
I choose Wall
His type are team oriented, trouble free young men with an innate desire to excel. I would take him or someone like him over 50 of the other type any day.
"SPORTS"--Not interested----"CATS"--Pull up a chair,I've got all night.
I don't think the
baseball model makes any sense for the NBA in their eyes. If I am not mistaken, one and done came about so they could see the players perform against a higher level of competition before drafting them. The baseball model doesn’t accomplish that. Two and done makes a lot more sense.
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Players Should Be Able To Go To NBA Straight From HS
NBA is a job. Nothing more, nothing less.
Players should be able to apply for a job whenever they want.
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 16, 2011 9:52 AM EDT reply actions
The companies that offer these jobs can set any conditions or pre-requisites they want on those jobs though
if being 1 year (or 2 years) removed from HS is part of the NBA job description, that’s just the way it is, and those not qualified need not apply.
How this affects unqualified players, or the NCAA, is not the NBA’s business, nor should it be.
kc
wouldn’t that be, and IS actually age discrimination? I’m surprised some lawyer hasn’t picked up on that.
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by bigbill992001 on Apr 16, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
People have tried to fight it
it’s not age discrimination, though. Jobs can require that you have so many years of experience in the field and the like, and no one raises an eyebrow. To work for the FBI for example, you must be at least 24; any objections? Also, the workers in the NBA are unionized, and the union agrees to these rules.
hmmmmmmmmm
so how many yrs. would a kid have to play bball in h.s., jr. hi and elem. to qualify? We were unionized in the UAW but still couldn’t discriminate because of age. Also I think, don’t hold me to this, that many yrs. ago the arlines had a similar age/height/weight discrimination problem.
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by bigbill992001 on Apr 16, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not age discrimination.
That ship has sailed.
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