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Kentucky Wildcats Basketball: 2011 Recruiting Big Board

The 2011 recruiting class for Kentucky to-date has truly been a tale of two months, with just about as little drama as possible. By April 2010, John Calipari had zoned in on his two primary targets, PG Marquis Teague and F Michael Gilchrist.  Almost immediately following the end of the 2009-10 season, Kentucky had secured commitments from arguably the best point guard and best big man in the class.

After little activity in the summer, Calipari brought the recruiting buzz back to campus with a fantastic August. Gilchrist's reign as best 2011 big was short-lived with the emergence of little-known Anthony Davis. Prior to the summer, no one had heard of Davis. By August, he had shot to the top of recruiting lists and committed to the good guys. The last piece of the puzzle was sniper Kyle Wiltjer, who is almost an afterthought in the class despite also having 5 stars next to his name. Wiltjer committed at the end of August, much to the chagrin of fans of West Coast teams like Gonzaga.

As mentioned, there was little drama in this class. Kentucky had been linked to a couple other big names (Big 12 signees Quincy Miller and LeBryan Nash, to name a couple), but the offer list didn't extend far beyond the aforementioned four. Gilchrist, Teague, Davis and Wiltjer all signed their Letter of Intents during the early signing period, and since then, it's been all quiet on the recruiting front. The biggest recruiting drama hasn't been with any rival school like the Terrence Jones-Washington Huskies controversy from last year. Instead, it's been a fight between Anthony Davis' reputation and salacious accusations printed by the Chicago Sun-Times.

We'll deep dive into each of the four signees in future Recruiting Spotlights, but right now let's take a look at where Kentucky stands on its remaining 2011 big board (after the jump).

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Name Pos School Ranking (Rivals/ESPNU)
Offer (Odds)
Commitment (Odds) Favorite School(s) News & Notes
Anthony Davis PF Perspectives Charter (Chicago) Rivals: 5*, 8th
ESPNU: 5*, 1st
Offered LOI Signed / Committed (8/13/10)
Kentucky 4/9/11 - 16 pts, 10 reb at Nike Hoop Summit
3/30/11 - 14 pts, 6 reb, 4 blk at McDonald's A-A
Michael Gilchrist SF/PF St. Patrick (Elizabeth, NJ) Rivals: 5*, 3rd
ESPNU: 5*, 3rd
Offered LOI Signed / Committed(4/14/10)
Kentucky 4/9/11 - 16 pts, 5 reb, 5 blk at Nike Hoop Summit
3/30/11 - 16 pts, 12 reb, 5 ast at McDonald's A-A, CO-MVP
Marquis Teague PG Pike (Indianapolis) Rivals: 5*, 2nd
ESPNU: 5*, 7th
Offered LOI Signed / Committed (4/22/10)
Kentucky 4/9/11 - 6 pts, 4 reb, 3 ast at Nike Hoop Summit
3/30/11 - 9 pts, 3 ast at McDonald's A-A
Kyle Wiltjer PF/SF Jesuit (Portland) Rivals: 5*, 25th
ESPNU: 5*, 18th
Offered LOI Signed / Committed (8/28/10)
Kentucky 4/9/11 - 12 points at the Nike Hoop Summit
3/30/11 - 11 points at McDonald's A-A, 3 pt contest winner
Trevor Lacey SG Butler (Huntsville, AL) Rivals: 4*, 34th
ESPNU: 4*, 40th
Offered 25% Alabama
Kentucky
Kansas
Auburn
UConn
4/15/11 - Despite below report, Lacey is still planning to take visits to Alabama and Kansas prior to Apr 22.
4/7/11 - The Birmingham News reported Apr 7 that Lacey has made his decision and will announce at a school celebration on Apr 22.
God's Gift Achiuwa PF Eric CC (Erie, NY) Rivals: UR
ESPN: UR
Possible 20% Cincinnati
Washington
St. John's
Kentucky
Niagara
4/15/11 - Achiuwa took an official visit to Cincinnati last weekend and will visit Washington this weekend. Kentucky has yet to offer.
DeAndre Daniels PF/SF IMG Academy (Bradenton, FL) Rivals: 5*, 9th
ESPN: 4*, Post-Grad
Offered (reportedly rescinded) 0%
Duke
Kansas
Texas
Kentucky
SDSU
4/15/11 - Once thought to have Texas, then Kentucky, then Kansas as the favorite. Duke is current leader. Daniels will take an official to Duke this weekend; don't be surprised if a commitment soon follows.
Braeden Anderson PF Wilbraham & Monson Academy (Wilbraham, MA) Rivals: 3*
ESPN: 3*
Not Offered
0% Kansas 4/6/11 - Anderson committed to Kansas on Apr 6 without ever receiving a Kentucky offer.
Stan Simpson PF/C Logan CC (Carterville, IL) Rivals: UR
ESPN: UR
Not Offered
0% Memphis 4/8/11 - Simpson committed to Memphis on Apr 8 without ever receiving a Kentucky offer.
Kevin Ware SG Rockdale (Conyers, GA) Rivals: 4*, 56th
ESPNU: 4*, 93rd
Unlikely <1% Louisville
Georgia
UCLA
UCF
Georgetown
4/13/11 - Tennessee officially released Ware from his LOI after the Bruce Pearl firing. Kentucky is not currently on Ware's radar.

 

Scholarship Situation

There are four signees for the class of 2011 (Gilchrist, Teague, Davis and Wiltjer). There are four definitive returnees (Eloy Vargas, Darius Miller, Jon Hood, Stacey Poole). There are two likely returnees that remain undecided about declaring early for the draft (DeAndre Liggins, Doron Lamb). There are two potential returnees that will likely leave if they declare early for the draft (Brandon Knight, Terrence Jones). Jarrod Polson has a scholarship this year, but would return to walk-on status next year if needed and is not counted as a scholarship. If everyone stays, that leaves only one available scholarship remaining.

Remaining Targets

The first name to know is SG Trevor Lacey. Lacey currently has the only outstanding scholarship offer from Kentucky. That will likely be the case until Lacey decides or Terrence Jones declares for the draft. According to the Birmingham News, Lacey is going to commit at his high school's basketball championship celebration on April 22. It has been long-thought that Kentucky and hometown Alabama were the two favorites. Lacey has a tentative visit set with Alabama, and the latest news is that Kansas may get a visit from Lacey as well. From a Kentucky angle, Lacey's decision is likely contingent on Brandon Knight. If Knight leaves, then Kentucky still has a chance, but if Knight stays, Lacey is likely looking elsewhere. With Lamb and Liggins likely to return to man the 2 (and Poole and Hood as depth), Lacey isn't a need-based target. He would, however, provide quality depth and become a likely contributor down the road.

Kentucky's secondary target area is a big man for depth purposes. With Josh Harrellson graduating and Jones likely to bolt, Kentucky will have only one big remaining on the roster in Eloy Vargas. Davis and Gilchrist will likely snag the starting 4/5 spots, but an additional big for depth both this year and beyond would be welcome. Yet Calipari has not been particularly proactive making this happen. Two potential targets, Braeden Anderson and Stan Simpson, decided not to wait any longer for a forthcoming UK offer. Anderson chose Kansas, which had open spots after the early entries from Markieff Morris and Marcus Morris. Simpson pledged to Memphis to fill out Josh Pastner's up-and-coming roster. Another former Kentucky target, DeAndre Daniels, is no longer being actively recruited by Kentucky and will likely end up at Duke. That leaves one name remaining on the big board, and boy, is it an All-Name Team doozy: God's Gift Achiuwa.

Achiuwa is a junior college freshman, giving him three years of eligibility remaining. That also means he has never played D-1 college ball. Given the dearth of big men remaining in the 2011 class, Achiuwa has become a trendy name in recruiting circles. He recently visited Cincinnati and has Washington next on his list. With the roster crunch the way it is, Calipari has been reluctant to formally offer Achiuwa (or any other big) a potential scholarship. But if Terrence Jones were to declare for the draft, look for Kentucky to swoop in and put the full court press on Achiuwa. That is, if he hasn't already committed to another school.

Outlook

Right now, Kentucky is not the leader for either Lacey or Achiuwa. Lacey is expected to commit on April 22, and Knight has until April 24 to decide whether to declare for the NBA Draft. Given that Lacey has visits lined up to Alabama and Kansas, Kentucky fans shouldn't feel too optimistic for a Lacey commit. Right now, my gut says Alabama wins this battle, with Kentucky running second with a 25% chance.

Achiuwa is another story. The big man left Cincinnati without pledging, and if he can do the same this weekend at Washington, then it would appear he's in wait-and-see mode about draft statuses. I put Kentucky's percentage chance at a low 20%, simply because a formal scholarship hasn't been offered yet. Should the Wildcats offer, I think that percentage shoots up.

It's very possible that by this time next week, neither target is left on the board. If that's the case, then Kentucky still has the option to go after another under-the-radar recruit that has yet to surface on the big board. The last option of intrigue is the final name on the board, Kevin Ware. We all love Volunteer schadenfreude, and thanks to Tennessee's dismissal of Bruce Pearl, Ware is the hottest remaining target on Top 100 lists not named Daniels or Lacey. Kentucky doesn't seem to be actively recruiting him at this moment (hence the <1% commitment odds), but that could change dependent on the decisions of Lacey and Knight. This late in the game, anything is possible.

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Aaaaaand...

Right after I publish this I see the “Kevin Ware commits to UCLA” rumors. Brilliant.

by jc25 on Apr 15, 2011 11:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Heh.

Recruiting moves fast. Feel free to update above.

Very nice work, by the way.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Apr 15, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

I’ll update the big board as it becomes necessary…but keep an eye out for the 2012 board next.

The “Ware to UCLA” were indeed rumors, as UCF is becoming the next team to trend.

by jc25 on Apr 17, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice Wrap Up

Well constructed I might add.

"I bring reason to your ears, and, in language as plain as ABC, hold up truth to your eyes." Thomas Paine, December 23, 1776

by Wild Weasel on Apr 15, 2011 12:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I LOVE THIS.

Everything about it. Most of all, of course, the information.

However, periodic, compartmentalized recruiting updates like this are one of the few things that ASoB has been missing. Great work.

by mrmondaynite on Apr 15, 2011 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

JC where's that kid from Christian County going to end up?

He really tore up the high school tournament. Be nice to see us offer him if we have a spare scholarship turn up.

by BCinVA on Apr 15, 2011 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

He's got some offers from mid-majors

and is waiting on Butler to see if Mack declares for the draft.

by jdogblue on Apr 15, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Academic Scholarships?

Is it possible Brandon Knight or God’s Gift Achiuwa would be offered academic scholarships. When you have that particular level of academic excellence, then it might make sense.

Possible first team:
PG: Teague
SG: Knight (?) or Lamb
SF: Liggins (?), Miller or Gilchrist
PF: Jones (?) or Davis
C: Vargas

Possible second team:
PG: Knight (?) or Lamb
SG: Liggins (?) or Miller
SF: Gilchrist
PF: Jones (?) or Wiltjer
C: Achiuwa (?)

Possible third team:
PG: Polson
SG: Poole
SF: Hood
PF: Wiltjer
C: Achiuwa (?)

NEXT YEAR THE DDO SHOULD BE IN FULL EFFECT AND WE WILL PLAY 40 MINUTES OF HIGH OCTANE OFFENSE AND SMASH MOUTH DEFENCE.

Check Achiuwa out, he is an extraordinary shot blocker.

by Blueobsessed on Apr 15, 2011 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Once Recruited For An Athletic Scholarship

A student may not accept an academic scholarship — there may be some rare (very) exceptions.

"I bring reason to your ears, and, in language as plain as ABC, hold up truth to your eyes." Thomas Paine, December 23, 1776

by Wild Weasel on Apr 15, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correct

Ravi Moss accepated an academic scholarship to UK in 2002 but was never recruited for athletic scholarship, hence he could be walk-on in basketball.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 15, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way Vargas is going to be starting...

If everyone comes back, then starting lineup will most likely be:
PG: Knight
SG: Lamb
SF: Gilchrist
PF: Jones
C: Davis

If Knight and Jones declare as expected, then I see:
PG: Teague
SG: Lamb
SF: Miller or Liggins
PF: Gilchrist
C: Davis

Lamb, Gilchrist, and Davis will be in the starting lineup regardless who declares for the draft.

by UKfan2011 on Apr 15, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Miller will be starting

and Vargas will get more time than you are expecting. I also do not believe that this year’s veterans are simply going to step out of the way for the new guys. They will have to earn their time. That is what will make next year’s team so great.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on Apr 15, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never said Vargas wouldnt be playing…Eloy will be the getting 12+ minutes a game coming off the bench and possibly more if Cal plans to press full court & wear down teams with their depth just as long as he keeps improving…let me assure you, Miller wont be starting over Gilchrist when it is all said and done. Gilchrist goes 6’7 to 6’8 and plays a lot bigger than his height since he has a wing span of a 7’1 player. He is damn near unstoppable off the dribble, plays defense like Liggins, and is a beast on the boards. He is the most polished and ready Senior in the entire 2011 class. Sorry to say it, but Miller disappears way too much and when UK needed the upperclassmen against UCONN, Miller didnt show up (1-7 from field).

by UKfan2011 on Apr 15, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love the chart and everything else

Can’t you find us a farm boy somewhere who plays like Josh? :)

"SPORTS"--Not interested----"CATS"--Pull up a chair,I've got all night.

by kydamcat on Apr 15, 2011 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Cal won't use all his scholarships just to use them.

It has to make sense, for this team and possibly the next couple.

by Wheatgerm on Apr 15, 2011 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

The last scholarship

Looking forward to both next season and the ones after it, I think the best use of the last scholarship would be for a big man who Cal can develop over a couple of years.

Now before everyone starts jumping up and down screaming about taking “less talented guys” or whatever, I’m talking about someone in the mold of whom Cal was getting his last several years at Memphis – guys like Robert Dozier and Joey Dorsey who could come in and give 10-15 minutes as freshmen but then got better and better over their careers.

If Achiuwa is that kid of guy then great, but I’m sure there is someone out there who could come in and grab some rebounds, play some passable defense, and let Cal develop him into a possible pro as Cal did for Dorsey and Dozier.

3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.

by JLeverenz on Apr 15, 2011 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

after watching Jorts this year...

i refuse to doubt any plans Cal has for developing big men.

by dshnarw on Apr 15, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well said J,

IMO, next year, our problem will not be a lack of talent, length, depth or height, but rather a lack of “girth”. If Jones moves on, Miller wil be heaviest member on the team except for Vargas. In fact, I believe Miller, if he gets stronger, could move to the PF, but Miller is not a great rebounder. Off season weighlifting does wonders, but moving Davis from 205 to 250 is highly unlikely. Gilchrist has more of a build like Brewer of Florida a few years ago. I see Gilchrist as a SF and Davis, due to his athleticism being a very thin PF.

Without “girth”, I fear we will be pushed around by older, less talented and more physical teams. I will never forget how Patterson was mauled at Georgia a couple years ago. He was a beast, but he was all we had. We are going to have to rely on our “older” muscle at times. Look at the builds of Liggins, Miller and Vargas. They just have had more years in the weight room.

Wiltjer is another “unknown”. With a five star rating, he obviously has promise, but again is thin for the center position. I like Achiuwa on an academic scholarship/walk-on. He is still thin, but is a year older and may develop the size we need more quickly. He is a “project” that could grow into a Dorsey or Dozier-type player.

The bottom line is that at this point we still have no answer for the big Sullinger-type centers or large muscular, athletic PFs. Hopefully, our talented depth will win the day.

by Blueobsessed on Apr 15, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you can't play through them

you have to play around them or out run them. We will be okay.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on Apr 15, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great discussion

And exactly why I would like to see Cal go after another big to close out the class. Trevor Lacey looks like he will be a fine player, but it’s not terribly difficult to grab an athletic 2, and even with Liggins graduating next year, Lamb could conceivably be back for his junior year as well as Stacey Poole, Jon Hood, and whoever else Cal goes grab-bagging for.

Consider that after Vargas graduates, the only big that will likely be on the roster is Kyle Wiltjer, who’s a big in the sense that he’s tall. Even if Achiuwa (or someone like him) contributes minimally this year, it’s a great depth cog who can offer size, boards, and at the very least, fouls.

by jc25 on Apr 17, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

blue

“The bottom line is that at this point we still have no answer for the big Sullinger-type centers or large muscular, athletic PFs. Hopefully, our talented depth will win the day.” That’s what I’ve been preaching all along. Cal doesn’t seem to like to recruit the true 5s. Our new guys better hit the weight room, the SEC will lick their chops unless we get stronger. Geez, Wiltjer’s arms have less definition than my Grandma. TIME will tell……………..and TIME NEVER LIES!

God Bless Our Troops............Especially Our Snipers!

by bigbill992001 on Apr 16, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

bill

Cal did recruit Cousins and he talked Orton into staying when Cal got the job. I fear there just wasn’t quality 5s in the mix this year. I didn’t see any in the Nike or McD game.

by jdogblue on Apr 16, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, you're right

he recruited Cuz to Memphis. But, since he’s been at UK, the closest thing to a 5 has been Eloy, and even THAT was an afterthought. You would think that after Cuz decided to go pro, Cal would have went after one.

God Bless Our Troops............Especially Our Snipers!

by bigbill992001 on Apr 16, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

It must have slipped your mind,

but he did recruit Kanter to Kentucky. Surely you think he’s a true 5.

by mess038 on Apr 16, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

mess

to be honest, I’m not so sure Cal ever thought Kanter had a chance. Well, maybe a small chance. Cal’s as sharp as they come, hard to believe he put all his eggs in one basket.

btw, Kanter is a 5 in every sense. With him, we’re hangin’ 8.

God Bless Our Troops............Especially Our Snipers!

by bigbill992001 on Apr 16, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

In all fairness

there weren’t a lot of big baskets to put eggs in last year.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on Apr 16, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice read, jc.

Glad that the recruiting stuff is getting some extra attention to keep me distracted from the sudden and depressing lack of basketball.

by dshnarw on Apr 15, 2011 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

aint that the truth

I’m like, " now what am I gonna do "……..lol……thanks jc, I enjoyed that

by Bluehound on Apr 15, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gilchrist Is Mr. Basketball

So says ESPN RISE.

"I bring reason to your ears, and, in language as plain as ABC, hold up truth to your eyes." Thomas Paine, December 23, 1776

by Wild Weasel on Apr 15, 2011 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

as long as Cal is here

we better get used to recruits showing up on campus dripping with accolades and awards. darn the luck eh?

I have kleptomania,
but when it gets bad,
I take something for it.

by bluecrip on Apr 16, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

That Happened Under Hall And Sutton Also

Somewhat under Pitino, less so under Tubby or Gillispie.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 16, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

WW

I find it a little interesting that Gilchrist and even Wiltjer are being chosen on AA lists, but Davis not so much.

God Bless Our Troops............Especially Our Snipers!

by bigbill992001 on Apr 16, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

see 'buzz on Kentucky bball' @ allkyhoops

God Bless Our Troops............Especially Our Snipers!

by bigbill992001 on Apr 16, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

p.s.

I’ve seen a few articles lately, can’t recall the loc. off hand, that mentioned that Davis was snubbed. just sayin’

God Bless Our Troops............Especially Our Snipers!

by bigbill992001 on Apr 16, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

forty

I guess you didn’t bother to access the allkyhoops site. If you HAD, you would have seen that Gilchrist and Wiltjer made Hoopniks 1st team but Davis didn’t even make 2nd team. I call that a ‘snub’. What do YOU call it? Like I said, I have read other articles that posted AA teams and Davis wasn’t 1st team, either. Personally, I give a rats ass about AA teams and AAU all-star games. I don’t get much from watching some guys make ally-oop dunks. Big deal. Doesn’t tell me much. Missing FT DOES tell me something, tho. So, when you say Davis has made EVERY AA team so far, you better go back and check those stats you’re so proud of.

God Bless Our Troops............Especially Our Snipers!

by bigbill992001 on Apr 17, 2011 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I Don't

Hoopniks is not a recognized HS A-A team.

Davis has been 1st team HS A-A on Parade and every other recognized A-A team that I’ve seen this spring.

I know what I’m talking about. All-Ky-Hoops may not.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 17, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Checked A Few Rankings

Davis rated # 1 by ESPN (Dave Telep), Scout, and Hot 100 Hoops (formerly Hoopmasters, Van Coleman). That’s # 1 in the 2011 HS class.

Rated # 4 by Bob Gibbons (All-Star Report) back in Feb 2011 but likely # 1 now (when spring update is posted).

Rivals is pathetic. Their rankings were last updated 8/24/2010.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 17, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Hoopniks is not a recognized HS A-A team"?

Not recognized by YOU? Allkyhoops doesn’t know what they’re talking about? Maybe. Maybe not. But, getting back to YOUR statement that Davis is on EVERY AA team, obviously YOU don’t know as much as you’d like to think you do. And, now that you realize that you made a statement you can’t back up, you try to backpedal and say "oh, they’re not ‘recognized’ ".

My original comment on this matter, if you care to re-read it, was directed to WW. YOU chose to jump in and that’s fine.

As I mentioned before, I have read other articles that mentioned that Davis was not on their 1st team AA. The article at allkyhoops alludes to this FACT also.

I’m not knocking Davis, he looks pretty good to me. I think we’re all aware that Davis is considered a top recruit. But, as I stated to WW, I found it interesting that the guy many would consider #1 overall could not even make the SECOND TEAM at some sites, while a guy like Gilchrist is pretty much a consensus. He’s on the Hoopniks AA team, btw. As were Wiltjer and guys like Brad Beal, Austin Rivers and Cody Zeller. All players that are among the elite of this class. But, not Davis. And, not even on the 2nd team. If one obscure AA team omitted Davis, we may have a mere oversight. But multiple AA teams? Obscure or not, yeah, I find that ‘interesting’.

God Bless Our Troops............Especially Our Snipers!

by bigbill992001 on Apr 17, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Correct

Hoopniks is NOT a recognized HS A-A team. McDonalds, Parade, Street & Smith, USA Today, Slam/Rise (magazine) are a few of the recognized teams. Hoopniks is nothing at all.

Davis is on every HS A-A team (mostly on the 1st team) and rated # 1 by most recruiting services.

If All-Ky-Hoops or you think that’s being overlooked, so be it. This is one subject I know better than most.

I don’t.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 17, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hoopniks (Credentials) Clipped

This post was written by:
Kellon Hassenstab – who has written 213 posts on Hoopniks.

Kellon Hassenstab is the publisher of Hoopniks.com. He previously contributed to various high school basketball and college basketball websites and magazines, prior to founding Hoopniks.com

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 17, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hoopniks is only ONE site

Personally, I didn’t know anything about Hoopniks until this conversation. And, I don’t pay a lot of attention to how any given kid is ranked by all the “experts” nationally. In college, we’ve had great kids with few ‘stars’ and kids with lots of ‘stars’ that didn’t pan out. Since anyone, even you or me, can make a list, I would submit that one list is as valid as another. I could grab a copy of Parade/McD/ESPN recruiting list and make my own AA list. Just look at the top ranked players and plug them in. Which most sites seem to do. Mr. Hassenstab has as much a right to make a list as does the so-called experts at Parade/McD. The fact that multiple AA lists had Davis missing, not just Mr. Hassenstab, would suggest that they DIDN’T just plug in the names. Davis being conspicuous by his absence is what I find “interesting”.

If you wanna take me to task for something I wrote, that’s fine. Sometimes I know what I’m talking about and sometimes I don’t. If someone can show me where I was wrong, I’m intellegent enough to understand it. And man enough to admit it. So far, you’re gonna have to do better.

God Bless Our Troops............Especially Our Snipers!

by bigbill992001 on Apr 17, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

As I Said

Davis is ranked #1 (player) by most recruiting services and has been named to every reputable HS A-A team this spring. He’ll probably be # 1 in RSCI consensus, too.

He’s not being overlooked. Hoopniks is not a reputable A-A team.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 18, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

To coin a phrase..........

“There you go again.” You keep referring to him being a #1 recruit. Off topic. Maybe your reading comprehension is dissipating in your old age. Maybe you should re-read the original comment.

God Bless Our Troops............Especially Our Snipers!

by bigbill992001 on Apr 18, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

UC Signed PF Cheikh Mobdj Yesterday

Pronounced “shek moodge” FWIW.

He took the scholarship that would have to to Aichuwa, who is leaning to St John’s.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 15, 2011 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

SJU will no doubt have the 2nd best incoming class in the nation next year

with or without Aichuwa. No 5*, but 6 4*. I’m a big Steve Lavin fan.

by mrmondaynite on Apr 16, 2011 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

So far, he seems to be doing a great job there

God Bless Our Troops............Especially Our Snipers!

by bigbill992001 on Apr 16, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is anyone else having trouble with this site?

It’s EXTREMELY slow now, C & Z functions not working and many times I click on a “comments” and nothing happems.

God Bless Our Troops............Especially Our Snipers!

by bigbill992001 on Apr 15, 2011 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Mine is slow, bill

No Z, gateway and error messages. Thought I might have a virus so I ran a deep scan, but it was clean.

"SPORTS"--Not interested----"CATS"--Pull up a chair,I've got all night.

by kydamcat on Apr 15, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks, kdc, I thought maybe it's my feed here

I switched over to Firefox and it’s better, but not 100%.

God Bless Our Troops............Especially Our Snipers!

by bigbill992001 on Apr 16, 2011 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Works Fine For Me

"I bring reason to your ears, and, in language as plain as ABC, hold up truth to your eyes." Thomas Paine, December 23, 1776

by Wild Weasel on Apr 15, 2011 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Coach Cal NBA rumors and Recruiting

Does rumors about Cal looking toward the NBA hurt UK recruiting? I read a sporting news article today that quoted Cal . He said he believe that UK rivals (Pitino?Calhoun?) started the rumors just to hinder recruiting. Makes sense to me. What do you think?

http://www.everythingkentuckyonline.com

by Sam Henson on Apr 15, 2011 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Sam

it certainly can’t HELP recruiting.

God Bless Our Troops............Especially Our Snipers!

by bigbill992001 on Apr 16, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Joseph Uchebo 6-9 PF from John Wall’s HS has de-committed from NC State.

More on Uchebo including listing him as 7-0 post player.

"I bring reason to your ears, and, in language as plain as ABC, hold up truth to your eyes." Thomas Paine, December 23, 1776

by Wild Weasel on Apr 16, 2011 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Uchebo

at least he’s not built like a balerina………..LOL

God Bless Our Troops............Especially Our Snipers!

by bigbill992001 on Apr 16, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah .. depends on who you believe - he's anywhere between 7'0 220 and 6'9 240 .. somewhere beyond ballerina material ...

I like the way Vargas progressed at the end of the season … but someone will have to battle with the Renardo Sidneys and Festus Ezilis of the SEC and OOC as well …

by ukcris on Apr 16, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw a short clip on him

he looks pretty strong

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by bigbill992001 on Apr 16, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

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