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A Word From the Founder

I don't come around here that much anymore, though once upon a time I was all there was here. Yes, I'll admit that in those early days I wasn't above posting a comment on my own blog under a pseudonym. In the online world that's akin to giving yourself plastic surgery, but I was in desperation mode, you see.

Back then, there were only two camps of Kentucky basketball fans: pro-Tubby or Anti-Tubby. You weren’t allowed to be Ambiva-Tubby. So I created Bogans’ Heroes, a blogspot blog where I could rant for 3,000 words a pop knowing that there would be no one to call me a homer, a Tubby lover (What a slur!) or some other even less interesting slag some anonymous hero could come up with. I created Bogans’ Heroes solely to make a place where folks who disagreed or agreed could do so with intelligent discussion, insight and even vitriol, so long as it was directed not at other posters and grammatically on target.

Eventually, my little piece of the blogosphere got noticed by the nice folks at Sports Blog Nation who were looking for new voices for college fan bases. I was tapped to be the Kentucky guy. I hemmed and hawed originally, worried that I was signing something my arse couldn’t cash, but it turned out to be a great decision. Despite those lonely early days, slowly and with ever-surer footing, A Sea of Blue came to live and breathe.

Star-divide

Thanks in large part to Glenn, we grew the old fashioned way, as the old commercial used to say, we earned it. Readers who tired of flame wars and trolling and all those lovely things that come along with traditional message board life found a home here, and with every voice that came aboard, the conversation grew in depth and in breadth.

Why do I stroll down memory lane today? Because it illustrates just what a colossally long time it’s been since we last found ourselves here, united, with a third weekend of basketball to look forward to. Years and years, to be precise. And the Tubby War raged and waned, the Billy War came and went, too. But A Sea of Blue stayed true to its purpose and never wavered.

The irony here, and I’m sure I’m not the first to note it, is that this group of Kentucky Wildcats is one either Tubby Smith or Billy Clyde would have been proud to call his own. DeAndre Liggins is straight from the Chuck Hayes school; Knight a Fitch with press clippings and Jones a rich man’s Erik Daniels. Yes, there are some problems with this analogy, but the gist is true. This edition of the Kentucky cagers plays hard, works hard, wills itself in the same tradition as those great Tubby teams of the early 2000s. As much as we like to forget what we loved so much then, there was nothing wrong with those teams until they didn’t win the big game. Then they were garbage, at least to to many.

Even during the brutal Billy Clyde years we saw kids working harder than they should have, playing above their station. That first Gillispie season Ramel Bradley and Joe Crawford showed fans something we Kentucky fans all appreciate and always have: heart. So, too, does this team. Only this team has reserves of talent and guile that those Gillispie teams and most of the Tubby Smith teams simply didn’t have available. So when that last rebound was needed, there was nothing. When that one more stop was essential, it didn’t happen. It wasn’t for lack of trying, it was for lack.

So I humbly submit that for us thoughtful fans, the ones who broke away from the pattern of blame and anger that so plagues the most diehard of fan bases across all sports, let’s tip a glass to our fallen seasons. Let’s not simply revel in what is ahead, but think back more fondly on what passed in frustration, because in forgiveness is salvation. And if John Calipari is our program savior, let’s do all of Big Blue Nation a favor and move on, too.

I’m sorry I don’t come around as much as I should. I read, but time only permits me so much posting and commenting. But I am immensely proud that this place exists, and that it exists without me. That was always the goal. Best to you all as we return to our rightful place in college basketball, and Go Big Blue.

JL Weill

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Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Mar 28, 2011 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

A long time coming indeed

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Mar 28, 2011 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

JL, thank you very much

for starting this blog. I am sure you are very proud of the job Glen and Ken have done with your baby.

by Grasslands1 on Mar 28, 2011 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Immensely so ...

… I have never once regretted handing off the reins. Both because it saved my sanity and because it’s far better now than I could have done.

The Heart & Mind of the Big Blue Nation ...

by JL Blue on Mar 28, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

my fondest memory from the Tubby Era

I think it was feb. 2003 and the Florida Gators had just reached numer 1 in the polls and promptly came into Rupp and got a beat down. I would love to relive that over and over, only with a different coach and of course different players. As for Tubby, he was alright for awhile, but I was more than happy to see him go. Before anyone calls me a racist, just know that I am just one of many Black kentucky fans.

to strive, to seek, to find and not to yield.

by gobigblueky on Mar 28, 2011 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

The Suffocats (2003) ...

… are my favorite UK team of all time. To me, it is irrelevant that they didn’t win the championship. What they did, and how they played, was the greatest college basketball I have ever seen.

Sometimes, what happens on the way can be more important than the outcome.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Mar 28, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mine Is The Slaughterhouse Five (1975)

I knew many of those players personally. My sister dated one of them.

by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 28, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mine too

The OSU game reminded me so much of the 1975 92-90 against IU.

"He still carries a lunch bucket. What's up with that?"

by BlueCollarMan on Mar 28, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was a great game

and RMK hasn’t forgiven us yet for that one.

by sweasyf on Mar 29, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

For obvious reasons, mine is the Runts.

On the other hand, 2003 was the best coaching season I’ve ever seen, except maybe this year. Absolutely concur that the trip is more important than the destination.

Go Cats!

"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena . . .who spends himself for a worthy cause . . ."

by oldcat'69 on Mar 28, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rupp's Runts are testament to that.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on Mar 28, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

For me it was the Comeback Cats ('98)

For some reason I quit putting as much effort into watching UK while in college so while I watched our loss to UAB and caught a few games here and there I really didn’t follow it as much as I did in the late 90s or as much as I do now so for me my favorite team is still the Comeback Cats. I don’t know what it was about them but I just loved watching those games.

But recently I have started watching every nationally televised game (living out of Kentucky that is all I can get my hands on most of the time) which means that during the BCG years I could barely watch anything until the SEC games. That is making the 2010 and 2011 iterations instant favorites for me because I can get them on TV every game. I only missed a handful of games this year, thankfully that included most of the losses.

Maybe the best thing about watching UK lately has been having someone (ASOB) to share it with, even when I don’t post I read almost every comment in the game threads, sometimes well after the game just to see what happened. This site has made BBN come alive for me, I feel more knowledgable and I feel like I actually know what is going on with the team more than ever before. It is the same feeling I got when I discovered Viva El Birdos for the StL Cardinals. I don’t know what I did before I found these sites but I can’t imagine not having them now.

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Mar 28, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1, hugo

God Bless Our Troops............Especially Our Snipers!

by bigbill992001 on Mar 28, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

My favorite team is the Unforgettables

simply because their hearts were bigger than their collective talents.

And right behind is the 1975 team, including one member I played against in high school.

by jdogblue on Mar 28, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I might have to agree with you on this one

they were not the best, didn’t win it all, but they stuck it out when others cancelled their commits or went to the league instead. They won on heart, something this years team has developed all of a sudden. They won with grit and determination. I do think I like them best.

Because of that this team is up there on the list. I was pretty down on this team earlier this year and didn’t think we’d get past or maybe even to the round of 16 or 8.

For a coach who doesn’t believe in “team meetings”. That one that the kids called – must’ve got them all on the same page. I would like to know what was said that day, because it began to turn around after that.

by sweasyf on Mar 29, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the same reason

those of us a little older love Rupp’s Runts.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on Mar 29, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Orlando Sentinel sports guy...

Mike Bianchi wrote that morning about how the Wildcat Reign was over…… so when he wrote before this year’s SEC Tournament that Cat fans still wanted Billy D I knew the Cats would roll on!

by jpbluekat on Mar 28, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can remember some of your early posts

At times in the beginning, it seemed like you were having a conversation with yourself. You did leave it in the best of hands however. Blame and anger in any form or fashion toward the Cats is just not in my genes ( or jorts :) I will have to admit to anger toward a couple of programs. That comes not from sports but a more personal interaction many years ago. Thanks for all you did. Wish you would come back more often.

"SPORTS"--Not interested----"CATS"--Pull up a chair,I've got all night.

by kydamcat on Mar 28, 2011 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Well .. .

… welcome to my brain.

The Heart & Mind of the Big Blue Nation ...

by JL Blue on Mar 28, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

What I meant was not many posters back then

I think it was over 2000 posts for the Ky/ NC game.

"SPORTS"--Not interested----"CATS"--Pull up a chair,I've got all night.

by kydamcat on Mar 28, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good to see you around again JL

I lurked around ASoB for a while to get the lay of the land and see what kind of site it was going to be – it is precisely what you described that made me take the plunge and join up. I would have to double check to be sure, but the first comments I made were in the game thread of some random SEC game in 2007, and I’ve not regretted it once.

Thank you JL for starting the site, to Glenn and Ken for expanding on the greatness, and to everybody who jumps in and keeps things interesting.

3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.

by JLeverenz on Mar 28, 2011 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I am thankful

for the day I stumbled across Bogan’s Hero’s and it wasn’t long after that it changed to A Sea of Blue. I know I’m not alone in that I am very thankful for all the work you guys put into the site. We can tell it really is a labor of love. GO BLUE!

by cthom on Mar 28, 2011 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Debatably (Nicer Word Than Arguably)

Among the prior 10 years (2001 through 2010 rosters), the 2011 team has less overall talent than 2001-02-03-04-05 and 2010 did. Each of those teams had enough talent for FF but didn’t make it.

Talent is important but really UK only has (5) UK “caliber” players in terms of talent – Knight, Jones, lamb, Liggins, and Miller.

The success of the 2011 Cats has much more to do with EFFORT and HEART.

by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 28, 2011 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

DeAndre Liggins Said It Best (Clipped From ESPN)

"We have talent, but we also have desire," Liggins said. "You need talent. You need to work hard. You need discipline and you need passion to win. We have all of that."

by FortyYearCatFan on Mar 28, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chemistry, my friends, chemistry.

"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena . . .who spends himself for a worthy cause . . ."

by oldcat'69 on Mar 28, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maturation

As someone said earlier, “this team has been forged by adversity”. They’ve been through a lot at this point. They’re hungry and best of all they have a chip on their shoulder. They’re a very compelling team. I agree, they have a nice chemistry.

by chicagoblues on Mar 28, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very well said.

Hope you find time to pen a little more often, I always enjoy your thoughts.

Don't take life too seriously; no one gets out alive.

by hoboat33 on Mar 28, 2011 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Mud in your eye, kind Sir!

“Who’d have thunk that little (insert name here, in this case, “Bogans’ Heroes”) would have grown up to become (again, insert name here, “ASoB”)??"

I’m sure it’s a bit impressive to see what you started roll up a 1000+ posts during a game thread… We can’t ever escape history, and you’re a large part of this, so again, thanks for what you began!

If your wings don't sweep....

by EagleTDL on Mar 28, 2011 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I caught two

comment sections today and both were bemoaning the loss of the “good teams:” Both thought the tourney could be salvaged only if Conn wins. Scott Van Pelt had a great rant just now that says you know what is great about this tournament? Merit wins in March. that is what makes this great. Sports Nation voted impressed with Calapari 52%.

So how did the team make it to Houston? Merit
How did Josh make it to todays headlines? Merit
How did ASOB make it to the best Kentucky chat community? MERIT BABY MERIT

by CAWebb on Mar 28, 2011 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Favorite team

Until this year, my favorite team was the ‘78 Cats. I was attending UK then, and the memories of that wonderful season when Coach Joe B. and the team gave Kentucky their 5th national championship always bring a smile. I live in Houston now, and my daughter’s a senior at UK. More than anything else I want her to experience the joy of being a student at UK when they win their 8th national championship (and in her hometown, no less!). This team may very well fulill that wish, but even if they don’t win the championship, they’ve displayed the kinds of qualities that heroes are made of – they rebounded from defeat, they worked hard to improve themselves (individually and as a team), they never gave up and they never stopped believing in themselves. My daughter’s gotten a great education at UK, but I think maybe the best part of it has come from watching this team. So I’d have to say this year’s Cats are my favorite team.

GO BIG BLUE!

by rocketcat on Mar 28, 2011 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

And they have learned

to believe in each other and their coaches. They have become a team. They have one goal now and nothing will be left on the floor in their effort to achieve it. We as fans are a diverse lot but if there are any among us that are not inspired by this group of individuals I fail to comprehend how that is possible.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on Mar 28, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

This team just may become my all time favorite - NC or not

Simply because of the compelling story of Josh and DeAndre. Two guys who could had dropped out or transferred out of the program due to the hardships they both suffered prior to Cal. Two young men from totally opposite ends of American society. Two young men who both grew together into what we see today. I couldn’t be prouder if they were my own sons.

A man is nothing more than a summation of his scars!

by KansasUKCat on Mar 28, 2011 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

For better or for worse

Without JL this site would not exist, so for that, I say a big THANK YOU!!

by Ken Howlett on Mar 28, 2011 5:36 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Very welcome...

… it barely resembles my early pontifications and overly crafted graphs, but that’s probably for the better overall. …

Could use a bit more literary analysis to drive away the weaklings, though … :)

The Heart & Mind of the Big Blue Nation ...

by JL Blue on Mar 28, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!

I think Glenn has you covered on the literary analysis … :)

by Ken Howlett on Mar 28, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just discovered

this site yesterday and I’m so glad I did. I live in KS amid the scores of fans from another team dressed in blue and white, but they’re not my cats. It’s wonderful to be able to read the posts from other UK fans. Thanks JL Blue

by CptCatFan on Mar 29, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks Ken

I’m so very happy to be here. What an amazing season our team is having; I can’t wait till Saturday! I completely agree with the statements about Liggins’ D.

by CptCatFan on Mar 29, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome, CptCat

I think you’re gonna like it here.

God Bless Our Troops............Especially Our Snipers!

by bigbill992001 on Mar 29, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish I could express myself that well

You just said what many of us on ASoB feel.

"SPORTS"--Not interested----"CATS"--Pull up a chair,I've got all night.

by kydamcat on Mar 28, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on Mar 28, 2011 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 also, a2.

"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena . . .who spends himself for a worthy cause . . ."

by oldcat'69 on Mar 29, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t often comment, however I have read for a year now. This site was your journey like this team was ours. They both lead to great things. I am always reading this blog for anything Cat related, and darn it the commentary is just plain fun. Thanks to all who made this site possible!

Now, on to Houston!

by phatcatfan on Mar 29, 2011 12:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I like the 78 team the most ... I listened to almost every game that year on the radio

Macy, Givens, Robey,Joe B Hall, Cawood Ledford …. it was an amazing run .. an amazing year … But this years team is awesome too …

by ukcris on Mar 29, 2011 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

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