Lamar Cardinals 64, Kentucky Wildcats (3), 86: Postmortem
Tonight, the Kentucky Wildcats passed their final exam before the Big One -- the game of the year against the Louisville Cardinals, currently ranked #4 but soon to take a fall whether or not they win at Kentucky due to their loss tonight in the Chicken Ranch to the Georgetown Hoyas.
First of all, I must say that I was very impressed with the play of the Lamar Cardinals. They came into this game somewhat undermanned but very competitive, and that shows in their 8-3 pre-game record. They were very tough, especially on the offensive glass, and didn't give an inch to Kentucky's talented but young group. They were a tougher out than I might have expected, and they played well tonight in front of a huge Wildcats home crowd. Kudos to coach Pat Knight and the Lamar Cardinals on a a fine effort.
For Kentucky, I felt this game was a mixed bag. There was some good, like the vastly improved perimeter shooting of Darius Miller, and the excellent percentage Kentucky shot from the line, a nice continuing trend. On the other hand, there seemed to be a lot of turnovers and I wouldn't be surprised to find that the Cardinals outworked the Wildcats on the offensive glass. We'll take a look after the jump.
Box Score (courtesy of ESPN):
| Lamar Cardinals | ||||||||||||
| STARTERS | MIN | FGM-A | 3PM-A | FTM-A | OREB | REB | AST | STL | BLK | TO | PF | PTS |
| Charlie Harper, F | 26 | 0-4 | 0-1 | 0-0 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 0 |
| Osas Ebomwonyi, C | 21 | 2-3 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 4 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 4 | 4 |
| Anthony Miles, G | 22 | 2-10 | 1-4 | 6-6 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 11 |
| Mike James, G | 39 | 13-29 | 1-4 | 2-2 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 29 |
| Devon Lamb, G | 23 | 1-3 | 0-1 | 0-3 | 1 | 6 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 2 | 2 |
| BENCH | MIN | FGM-A | 3PM-A | FTM-A | OREB | REB | AST | STL | BLK | TO | PF | PTS |
| Donley Minor, G | 20 | 1-2 | 0-1 | 0-0 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 |
| Stan Brown, F | 15 | 1-3 | 0-0 | 2-2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 4 |
| Nikko Acosta, F | 7 | 1-1 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 |
| Brandon Davis, G | 5 | 0-1 | 0-1 | 0-0 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 |
| Tre Lynch, G | 17 | 4-7 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 8 |
| Vincenzo Nelson, F | 5 | 0-2 | 0-0 | 2-2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 |
| TOTALS | FGM-A | 3PM-A | FTM-A | OREB | REB | AST | STL | BLK | TO | PF | PTS | |
| 25-65 | 2-12 | 12-15 | 9 | 30 | 9 | 12 | 5 | 15 | 21 | 64 | ||
| 38.5% | 16.7% | 80.0% | ||||||||||
| Kentucky Wildcats | ||||||||||||
| STARTERS | MIN | FGM-A | 3PM-A | FTM-A | OREB | REB | AST | STL | BLK | TO | PF | PTS |
| Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, F | 26 | 5-6 | 0-0 | 8-10 | 1 | 6 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 18 |
| Anthony Davis, F | 34 | 5-10 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 3 | 13 | 2 | 0 | 6 | 0 | 2 | 10 |
| Darius Miller, G | 32 | 4-7 | 4-6 | 3-4 | 1 | 6 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 15 |
| Doron Lamb, G | 32 | 3-9 | 1-3 | 5-6 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 12 |
| Marquis Teague, G | 31 | 4-8 | 1-3 | 6-7 | 1 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 6 | 2 | 15 |
| BENCH | MIN | FGM-A | 3PM-A | FTM-A | OREB | REB | AST | STL | BLK | TO | PF | PTS |
| Eloy Vargas, F | 4 | 0-1 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 |
| Twany Beckham, G | 1 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Terrence Jones, F | 27 | 4-10 | 0-0 | 1-2 | 4 | 6 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 9 |
| Jarrod Polson, G | 1 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
| Kyle Wiltjer, F | 11 | 1-2 | 1-2 | 4-4 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 7 |
| Brian Long, G | 1 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0-0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| TOTALS | FGM-A | 3PM-A | FTM-A | OREB | REB | AST | STL | BLK | TO | PF | PTS | |
| 26-53 | 7-14 | 27-33 | 10 | 35 | 15 | 4 | 10 | 17 | 13 | 86 | ||
| 49.1% | 50.0% | 81.8% | ||||||||||
As usual, the green indicates good things and the yellow, not so good.
Superlatives:
- Michael Kidd-Gilchrist really brought it tonight. There is no part of his game that seems to have a crack, let alone a hole, at least tonight. He did almost nothing but good things. Game ball.
- Darius Miller brought his offense tonight, and it really showed up in the box score.
- Anthony Davis played a typical Anthony Davis game. It seems like every one of his box scores look like this, although tonight he shot the ball a bit more from further out, and it showed in his percentage. But six blocks are definitely worthy of mention.
- Doron Lamb didn't shoot the ball particularly well tonight, but he played okay.
- Marquis Teague did some good things on defense.
- Terrence Jones did a good job on the offensive glass.
Not so superlative:
- Marquis Teague just struggled tonight with turnovers. Not his best effort.
- Eloy Vargas looks like he had a hangover from too much egg nog. His energy was low and he just didn't contribute.
- Terrence Jones was not nearly aggressive enough, and when he was, he looked out of sorts. He wasn't horrible, but he was a role player tonight, and that's not what we need from him.
- Kyle Wiltjer continues to struggle to rebound the ball.
- Darius Miller didn't play particularly well defensively, and he turned the ball over too much.
Overall, I know I'm just picking nits, but there were too many breakdowns on defense when the game got frenetic, and too many turnovers period. Kentucky allowed Lamar to get 12 steals -- a season high. If we let Louisville steal the ball 12 times, the outcome will not likely be a Wildcat victory. Marquis Teague just has to get this under control. I hope he just got the last bad game out of his system.
We need much more out of Jones, Teague, and our bench to beat the deep, talented, and now angry Louisville Cardinals. And they are next.
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MKG MKG MKG
I am convinced that he is the most consistent super-freshman so far in the Cal era (my opinion). You just know what you’ll get from him every game.
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by kentuckyrules on Dec 29, 2011 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
Jones
Perhaps it was the two game layoff or the effect of the lingering injury to his finger, but I thought Jones reverted to his bad games of last year. He looked lackadaisical on occasion, especially with passes and on defense. He even had his shot blocked at the rim while shooting it while he was coming down. Shades of last year.
I will give to a pass to jones
Due to his finger.
I am afraid cal still does not have Teague’s attention…it may take a loss to ul or early sec loss to get it. Hope not but it looked like Teague still wants to debate cal rather than listen to him.
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by memphis wildcat on Dec 29, 2011 12:33 AM EST reply actions
Jones = The Riddler
As he did @ times last season, Terrence Jones could have worn the green “Riddler” costume from the old Batman TV series. His game & effort is just full of questions right now.
I realize he is coming off an injury, but without TJ playing to his full best this team will not go where BBN wants it to go (nor will TJ be a lottery pick).
Right now it appears that both TJ & Marquis Teague may well be back for another season, a good news/bad news situation for UK.
As Dennis Miller says: “That’s just one man’s opinion; I could be wrong.”
"Life should be fairways, greens, blue skies, & fresh powder."
Last time I looked, right now
isn’t March. Much too early to come to any conclusions about their game performance as the season progresses.
I am all for people expressing their opinions, as long as they back them up with facts.
I'm curious
as to Teague’s assist to turnover ratio and how it compares to other Cal point men. He just seems far more out of control than others I have seen. Oh and if he never shoots a 3 the rest of the year I will be fine with that.
by RolandoGRoomes on Dec 29, 2011 2:08 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Welcome to A Sea of Blue.
We did a piece on this a while back, and Teagues was in line with some and higher than others.
But at this point in the season, I’m pretty sure it is at or near the low end. He needs to do much better.
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Teague was doing a good job recently
of following Cal’s advice and taking the 3 only to keep the defense honest. Last night he was taking them to take them.
Agreed, but he has to learn where that line is
By taking a few too many tonight, they will become teaching points for the staff.
He should only take a contested 3 if the shot clock is very low, even then a quick “pass” to the rim area hoping for an AD dunk might be better. However, he needs to take enough “open” 3s that the defense will respect the threat. Its a tough balancing game, especially for someone who is not a good long range shooter, as the D will tend to back off regardless.
I don't think I've seen him take a contested three yet
I’m fine when he shoots open, as long as it isn’t early in a possession.
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Here you go.
Teague is averaging 4.462 assists per game. His turnovers per game are 3.154.
Totals, 58 assists, 41 turnovers for the season.
His A/TO ratio is +1.4. Marquis needs to run the team and let his game come to him.
He needs to take the open shot, but, his driving ability should be utilized to score and to dish out for an open shot.
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by seattlekat on Dec 29, 2011 6:14 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
agree-
He is more of a driver and slasher than shooter…
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
True
We have plenty of shooters. He just needs to distribute the ball, settle down and play D.
"He still carries a lunch bucket. What's up with that?"
by BlueCollarMan on Dec 29, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
if you take out the first 4 games....
i believe his A/TO improves – however, last night would hurt the ratio…
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by memphis wildcat on Dec 29, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Teague
I think we will go as far as Teague’s play will let us. So far I am not impressed. He is just not the calming effect that a championship team usually has. I hold my breath every time he drives into the lane, usually into 2 or 3 defenders. His passing is sloppy & his outside shot is – shall we say – inconsistent. I really have been disappointed in his play so far this year.
As to TJ? Who knows what’s going thru his head this year. I’ll give him some slack due to this injury, but I’ve seen more of the “old” TJ rather than the “new & Improved” model. I counted 3 times that he got his shot blocked last night – against LAMAR! What’s UL going to do to him?
Poor Wiltjer couldn’t guard a fence post. He is S-O-O-O S-L-O-W. Great shooter though when he spots up.
Overall some good things last night – MKG & Davis are just spectacular & fun to watch. Miller had a good outing, need more of that but not a totally satisfying game last night. With the Cards coming to town I suspect every soft spot we have to be exposed. We’ll need to raise our energy level several notches, say what you will, RickyP’s guys will play hard. We must match that energy to win.
Too Much To Expect I Suppose
But I continue to be disappointed in this team’s ability to remain focused over any extended period — anything over 6-8 minutes. Announcers noted last night that things seem to come easy for Cats: on the plus side that means they are highly athletic and make the difficult simple, on the minus side it means that they’re lacking in the mental part of the game. The positive will allow victory in Rupp over less talented foes. The negative will be costly on the road versus more equal talent.
"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
I Agree
They still seem to be relying on their athletic ability alone. Since so many teams out there have talent close to ours the mental aspect needs more emphasis. You can tell Cal knows this by his constant “reminding” during timeouts. So far it looks as if he’s really having trouble getting thru to members of this year’s squad.
Great to see Miller's shot return
I watched him closely on several of his threes, and he seemed to shoot them with ease — no straining or forcing. I think hitting the shot got him more focused on rebounding too. We need Miller to hit the outside shot to complement Lamb.
Cal was screaming at Miller all night on defense
He was yelling so loud you could clearly hear him on the broadcast.
Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun
An Example I Think
of the athletic mindset over the mental. You must have both at this level. Why would he have to yell at a senior?
As an example
You yell at a senior because you know he can take it and you yell loud enough the entire team can hear.
Miller has a bit of the whiteman's disease - slow of foot
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MKG
I really like that Kidd-Gilchrist can play after picking up two fouls. He plays under control and seems to be cognizant of not fouling while continuing to play defense. Cal put him on James in the second half, and I thought his length bothered James some (as much as any Cat defender). Seems that most players become a magnet for a foul once they have two.
Did Anybody Hear
that Teague told Cal that he didn’t carry out his instructions after a time-out because “he didn’t want to”!
Please don’t let this be true.
I've not heard this, where did you see this at?
Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun
That was "Quoted" from Cal's postgame press conference
Cal may have been stretching the truth a little to make a point.
Picky, picky, picky (and no rolls!).
On Jones: I initially thought he didn’t have his finger taped, but he did, only the tape was dark and not as visible as the white tape he had just after he injured it. Every time he tried to go left, except one, he lost control of the ball. His first two FGs were right-handed. I thought his effort was OK, not great, but OK. But try playing with your little finger taped to the ring finger on your dominant hand and let me know how that works out. It just has a huge effect on your “spread”, and I daresay it is the second most important finger to the thumb in handling the ball and shooting. Let the man heal, then throw rocks at him if he doesn’t do well.
On Wiltjer: He surely had some mistakes on defense, but he also looked much better than in the past on several defensive plays. As a matter of opinion, the entire team handled some well-executed P&Rs by Lamar much better than earlier in the season. It’s precisely what Cal spent some time working on in the televised practice. Also, Wiltjer, except for one obvious instance, was more aggressive in looking for his shot, and I count that as progress.
Teague is a freshman and is not John Wall, Derrick Rose, or even Brandon Knight. Let’s see how he’s doing in mid-February. If we’ve forgotten, last year’s team had NINE LOSSES and still made the FF because their chemistry improved at the right time.
Lots of mistakes still, but I think there’s progress. Let the stew simmer for a while before we start lopping off heads (This coming from a guy who is usually quick to nit-pick performances, but I just get a different feel from this team now than earlier.). I’m glass half-full on this bunch so far.
"The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena . . .who spends himself for a worthy cause . . ."
by oldcat'69 on Dec 29, 2011 8:37 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
You're Right Of Course
I guess I see so much athletic ability out there that I hate for the mental mistakes to not allow that to shine.
I agree with you,
but there’s lots of athletic ability elsewhere, too, and far more experience in some cases.
Let’s give these kids some more rope and see if they hang themselves or tie up their opponents.
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by oldcat'69 on Dec 29, 2011 4:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
At last, a voice of reason.
All of this gloom and doom is getting old. I think most fans do not realize all that goes into coaching and developing a “team”. We are seeing what happens when a coach has to kill the me to give birth to the we. He gets a bunch of talented young men who have accumulated a bunch of habits that do not fit into his style of play. It is obvious to me after watching the practice that there is still a lot of confusion among the players as to exactly what he wants them to do in certain circumstances. When you have to spend a lot of time thinking about not doing what has become natural to you, it is going to show in a game where time to think about it is a luxury. There is a reason most teams do not peak until Feb or March. These guys will get it, I have no doubt. Fans are just expecting it now and it ain’t gonna happen. Teague has the most to learn of all, and the most personal habits to abandon. People need to give him the room to grow.
Keep that glass half full oldcat, we may yet be topping it up by season’s end.
I am all for people expressing their opinions, as long as they back them up with facts.
by kywineman on Dec 29, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I hope so, wineman.
I’m optimistic.
“Did I (say) thayut?
Urkel
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by oldcat'69 on Dec 29, 2011 4:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I just remember
how it was to be less quick (Wilt) and naturally less aggressive (DM) than I now, in retrospect, wish I had been. (Diagram that sentence, English teachers!)
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by oldcat'69 on Dec 29, 2011 4:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I am on board with all of you basically...
I still worry about the lack of “heart” I am not seeing, but time and time again, I am reminded that we are a team of FROSH and that is typical….
But an example that worries me: I watched some of the UL/GT game before UK, and I noticed that UL BOXED OUT (all players) when GT shot the ball….that is “heart” and I fear that heart will overcome talent on Saturday…unless we show it, we won’t win…
Don’t want to be the downer.
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Well, our boys will hopefully prove me wrong...
and be ready to BRING IT ON Saturday :) ….hoping for a blow-out.
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by kentuckyrules on Dec 29, 2011 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
I think this is such a subjective opinion that isn't necessarily true....
I still worry about the lack of "heart
I do not question their “heart”.
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I agree,
in my opinion heart is better measured in terms of effort than measures of performance.
I am all for people expressing their opinions, as long as they back them up with facts.
When league play starts next week...
I think you’ll see the team step up play. It has to be hard for a young team not to look at the name on the opposition this time of year and stay inspired. League play carries more importance than non-conference play. Look how long it took last’s year’s team to gel and click. These guys just need to have more games together under their belts. They’ll be fine.
I think big picture, we'll be fine...but as a fan...
we always wonder “when” will the gel come together :\ …being a fan is a love/hate thing LOL
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by kentuckyrules on Dec 29, 2011 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
You do not want the team to gel too soon.
It is a long season and they still have much to learn. Everything that I have seen them come up short on is coachable. Take Wiltjer for example. He cannot be coached to be quicker than his ability, but he can learn to be efficient with his game. These things take time and experience.
I am all for people expressing their opinions, as long as they back them up with facts.
One thing that really irritates me
I’ve been attending UK games for many decades and something I saw last night really bothered me. During the national anthem, every player and coaching staff for Lamar had their hand on their heart – conversely, only Calipari, Robic and Twany Beckham did for Kentucky. Coach Cal stresses teaching his team about life bigger than basketball, and he should make this a point of emphasis.
On the plus side, this is a really fun team to watch. Lamar is better than all but UNC, Kansas and IU of the teams we’ve played so far. I expect the Cats will ramp up their intensity Saturday against the Cards and we’ll see a performance more like the Tar Heels game. If so, I think we win by double-digits.
Really?
The players need to prove their patriotism by holding their hand over their heart during the NA? You probably also point out whenever a politician isn’t wearing their flag pin while out in public.
These rituals drive me crazy. Beckham MUST love the good ol’ USA… but surely Polson does not. Commie!
by UKfaninDC on Dec 29, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I am sure there are many who publicly display
their patriotism while privately betraying the principles of our country. Best not to expect others to meet your own standards. There are far bigger fish to fry.
I am all for people expressing their opinions, as long as they back them up with facts.
by kywineman on Dec 29, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think you miss the point
Putting your hand over your heart during the national anthem is purely about respect and has nothing to do with proving or publicly displaying one’s patriotism. Admittedly there are thousands of fans in attendance that seemingly don’t understand this either – would be nice to have our players and staff provide them with an object lesson.
This isn't the place, but...
Do you believe that all of Lamar’s team actually “respects” whatever it is you want them to respect? Or do they do it because maybe the coach makes them, it’s become habit, others will pass judgment on them otherwise (ahem), etc?
I’m all for you doing whatever you want during the NA. Personally, I refuse to put my hand over my heart. It’s not that I lack respect, but I hate artificial rituals. You do you and I’ll do me.
by UKfaninDC on Dec 29, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No, I'm not a Bolshevik
However I did stand during the Soviet national anthem when they played UK. I felt it was the right thing to do considering they came all that way to play, you know, southern hospitality and all. However, a few others had contrary opinions and didn’t hesitate to share them. So it goes.
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by BlueCollarMan on Dec 29, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Darius Miller's 3 pt %
would have been even better if he didn’t have to force up a shot at the end of the first half.
by tyler cottrell on Dec 29, 2011 10:11 AM EST reply actions
Indeed. I think shots like that should only count if they go in. :-)
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by Glenn Logan on Dec 29, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Just another example why statistics
only tell part of the story.
I am all for people expressing their opinions, as long as they back them up with facts.
boys to men
I see an early out in the big dance if this team doesn’t grow up! Teague has the skills but he is not using them to lead this team. Miller needs to have a tougher/meaner attitude. Jones just needs to get back to his NBA level skills. I think he will be a beast in the end. If any player wants to play at the NBA level he needs to listen to coach Cal. Its all about Coach Cal helping these young guys to become MEN!
Well ...
… what have they done to give you the idea that they will go out early? They have only had one loss, and two close games.
They will surely improve, and have improved. The thing is, they will never improve fast enough for us, or the coach, which is as it should be.
Teague is learning, just like the players learned the previous two years. All he needs to do is get there by the middle of the SEC season and I think we’ll be fine.
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by Glenn Logan on Dec 29, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Bulldogs
I know it’s late, but wonder if anyone caught the Baylor-Mississippi St. game. I watched the last ten minutes, and the Bulldogs look awfully good. Sidney is a new man and Dee Bost may have been the best player on the floor. If it hadn’t been for a blown “no foul” call and a Sidney mind-f**t tecnical, they would have beaten the undefeated Bears on a neutral court. I believe we’re playing the Dogs in Starkpatch this year.
They will be the team to reckon with in SEC play
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