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2011-12 College Basketball Rankings: Poll Analysis for 12/26/2011

Examining the AP and Coaches poll. (via hlkljgk)

Yesterday's AP and Coaches polls had few surprises, but that's to be expected at this time of year when teams are cleaning up the last of their out-of-conference schedule. By now, most teams have played their marquee games for their non-con and are preparing for the grind of league play.

Two notable, but by no means exclusive, exceptions are the Louisville Cardinals and Kentucky Wildcats. Louisville has two very challenging games this week, one Big East contest at home in the Chicken Ranch and then, of course, the annual clash with Kentucky in Rupp Arena. No wonder Traitor Rick is so snappish these days.

After the jump, I have consolidated the AP and Coaches poll, and prepared an analysis for your edification.

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Poll Data

AP Poll Coaches Poll




Schedule Strength
Rnk Prev Change Rnk Prev Change Team Wins Losses Votes 1st SOS Rnk Proj Rnk Conference
1 1 0 1 1 0 Syracuse 13 0 1611 54 0.6014 12 0.6521 2 Big East
2 2 0 2 2 0 Ohio State 12 1 1507 5 0.5135 132 0.6290 14 Big Ten
3 3 0 3 3 0 Kentucky 11 1 1480 4 0.5051 148 0.5710 76 SEC
4 4 0 4 4 0 Louisville 12 0 1386 2 0.5365 82 0.6319 12 Big East
5 5 0 6 6 0 North Carolina 11 2 1366 0 0.5482 66 0.5985 38 ACC
6 6 0 7 7 0 Baylor 12 0 1299 0 0.5130 134 0.6158 25 Big 12
7 7 0 5 5 0 Duke 10 1 1281 0 0.5850 25 0.6157 26 ACC
8 9 1 8 8 0 Missouri 12 0 1149 0 0.4410 296 0.5772 62 Big 12
9 8 -1 9 9 0 Connecticut 10 1 1143 0 0.5816 30 0.6453 3 Big East
10 11 1 10 12 2 Florida 10 2 1050 0 0.5161 122 0.5750 70 SEC
11 13 2 11 14 3 Wisconsin 11 2 898 0 0.5448 69 0.6350 8 Big Ten
12 16 4 12 16 4 Georgetown 10 1 851 0 0.4856 202 0.6110 29 Big East
13 17 4 15 18 3 Indiana 12 0 820 0 0.4398 299 0.5914 45 Big Ten
14 10 -4 13 10 -3 Marquette 11 1 775 0 0.5335 90 0.6205 21 Big East
15 18 3 14 17 3 Mississippi St. 12 1 718 0 0.4817 212 0.5794 59 SEC
16 19 3 17 20 3 Michigan State 11 2 613 0 0.5620 47 0.6584 1 Big Ten
17 12 -5 18 11 -7 Kansas 8 3 548 0 0.5886 21 0.6281 16 Big 12
18 20 2 16 19 3 Michigan 10 2 504 0 0.5138 130 0.6396 5 Big Ten
19 21 2 20 23 3 UNLV 13 2 473 0 0.5612 49 0.5903 46 Mountain West
20 22 2 21 22 1 Murray State 13 0 342 0 0.5040 151 0.4263 280 Ohio Valley
21 23 2 19 21 2 Creighton 10 1 254 0 0.5265 103 0.5562 90 Missouri Valley
22 15 -7 22 13 -9 Pittsburgh 11 2 238 0 0.4997 168 0.6054 34 Big East
23 24 1 24 New New Virginia 10 1 214 0 0.4968 176 0.5644 85 ACC
24 New New 23 25 2 Harvard 10 1 121 0 0.4918 194 0.4723 185 Ivy League
25 New New Unr Unr - San Diego State 11 2 119 0 0.5032 153 0.5649 83 Mountain West
Unr Unr - 25 New New Kansas St 10 1 45 0 0.5297 96 0.6093 30 Big 12

Here are my comments about the teams highlighted above:

  • Syracuse will not be tested again until January 7th vs. Marquette.
  • Ohio St. faces Indiana in Bloomington on Saturday. Big test for both teams.
  • Louisville faces the Georgetown Hoyas on Wednesday and Kentucky on Saturday. If they are as overranked as I think, it will surely show up this week. Otherwise, you have to hand it to them.
  • Two words for having Duke ranked ahead of the North Carolina Tar Heels: In. Sane. Okay, that's one word, but you get the idea.
  • The Baylor Bears are still unconvincing at this level, but they have a chance to change my mind versus Mississippi St. on Wednesday.
  • Jim Calhoun's fib to the NCAA finally comes home to roost, and he will be forced to sit out arguably the easiest three-game stretch in UConn's remaining season.
  • Cupcake schedule for Indiana so far turns into a murderer's row starting on Wednesday.
  • Will Marquette be responsible for lifting up two SEC teams? They play Vanderbilt on Thursday.
  • The Kansas Jayhawks were overranked at 11. This is about right for them.
  • Michigan gets one more cupcake, and then it gets difficult.
  • Pittsburgh loss to Wagner looks like a bad omen for Big East play to me.

Poll analysis by conference:

Conference
Data ACC Big 12 Big East Big Ten Ivy League Missouri Valley Mountain West Ohio Valley SEC
Count - Conference 3 4 6 5 1 1 2 1 3
Average - SOS 0.54 0.52 0.54 0.51 0.49 0.53 0.53 0.50 0.50
Average - Proj 0.59 0.61 0.63 0.63 0.47 0.56 0.58 0.43 0.58
Average - Wins 10.33 10.50 11.17 11.20 10.00 10.00 12.00 13.00 11.00
Average - Losses 1.33 1.00 0.83 1.40 1.00 1.00 2.00 0.00 1.33

  • The Big East continues to lead the way with six ranked teams between the two polls.The Big Ten is a close second with five, and the Big 12 has four to lead the top three.
  • The Pac-12 is the only BCS conference not represented in the poll at all. How far have they fallen, collectively?
  • The SEC has the weakest average strength of schedule of all the BCS conferences in the poll.

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UofL may be overrated or they may not be, ultimately time will tell....

I think it would not be wise to underestimate them when they play the Cats. I am confident UK can and will beat the Cards but I am going to be tempered and expect a hard fought battle that (with a little bad luck) could go either way.

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by SevenRings on Dec 27, 2011 11:09 AM EST reply actions  

THREES!

It depends on that!!!!!!

Go CATTTTTTTTTTTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by oilliecat on Dec 27, 2011 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

Glenn:

another good job. If we can hold them to 5 or 6 threes, a piece of cake!

Go CATTTTTTTTTTTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by oilliecat on Dec 27, 2011 11:18 AM EST reply actions  

The Cards play hard.

And Siva is fearless.

They over-play on defense; we need to make them pay with dunks.

by bob in bg on Dec 27, 2011 1:01 PM EST reply actions  

Polls In A Word: Overrated

Pick a team, any team, and a good argument can be made, I believe, that at this stage it is overrated: stacked home schedules, mismatches, lineup experiments, injuries, suspensions, second semester eligibility — add it up and you have chaos theory. If I were compelled to pick a top team it would be OSU because if Sullinger had been available for KU they would be undefeated and they are the only team without a well defined weakness. As for Cats, IMO, they haven’t consistently played well enough or hard enough to deserve a #3, or top 5 for that matter, ranking. UL will provide a bit of insight but it’s in Rupp so on-the-road in SEC will be a better criterion.

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

by Wild Weasel on Dec 27, 2011 1:27 PM EST reply actions  

Once conference play begins...

you usually see which teams are overated. I haven’t seen much of Syracuse but I know the media loves to jump on their bandwagon year after year for whatever reason. Same for Duke and I stand by my comments earlier in the season that even UNC is overated. I’m not sure we will know about UL being overated just because they are playing Georgetown and UK. The Hoyas are another team usually overhyped by the media and you know the game Saturday will be a war so I’m not sure what the outcome will mean as far as the Cards go. No question they are overated IMO but I think they are a solid team. To me OSU is the best team out there without question but by the end of the year the Cats will be right with them.

by maysvilleblue on Dec 27, 2011 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

Agree about OSU.

Possibly best big man and probably best point guard plus a guy or two who can shoot. Good combination!

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by oldcat'69 on Dec 27, 2011 5:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Syracuse SOS

Can anyone explain to me how Syracuse’s SOS is so high at this point. They’ve played only one away game at NCSt and two in MSG. The rest have been at home. The only good team they have played is Florida. I’m mystified.

by jdogblue on Dec 27, 2011 5:50 PM EST reply actions  

Well, because they've only played two teams >=200

UK, for example, has played 5. Also, Stanford and Virginia Tech are also pretty good.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Dec 27, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Indiana

will fall out of the top 25 before its all said and done. One man’s opinion.

God Bless Our Troops............Especially Our Snipers!

by bigbill992001 on Dec 27, 2011 5:55 PM EST reply actions  

I'll be very curious as to how the Miss. State vs Baylor game turns out

If State wins then I believe they’ll be our biggest competition for the SEC title. Moultrie is an excellent center or PF – the best in the league at this point in time.

A man is nothing more than a summation of his scars!

by KansasUKCat on Dec 27, 2011 6:03 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, that will be interesting.

I’m not quite so sold on Baylor as most of the media seem to be, but an MSU win on the road would definitely impress me.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Dec 27, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

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