DSS: Kentucky vs Indiana
It's been a while since I've done a single game DSS. As painful as it might be, I offer one up for UK's first loss of the season.
I also extend a big word of thanks to Luke Winn at Sports Illustrated for helping me out in completing a DSS for the victory over UNC. That game will now be included in future DSS results.
One more thing: based on comments I think there is still a bit of mystery as to what the DSS is and what the charts mean. I've considered doing an in-depth explanation of the process (how it is created) and results (what the ratings mean), but was unsure as to whether people would be interested or find it useful. I know there are several who don't care (which is perfectly fine!) but I've included a poll where you can indicate whether you would like to see such a post or not.
On to the game, and first a word on Terrence Jones (because there haven't been enough of those already).
Terrence Jones' defense is going to be remembered for 4 breakdowns in particular:
- Not corralling a defensive rebound in the first half which Victor Oladipo took away and put back in for a bucket.
- A failure to fight past a screen in the first half which allowed a wide open 3 point FG to Christian Watford for Indiana's first made 3 of the game.
- Not hedging out on a screen which allowed Jordan Hulls to get an open 3 point look in the 2nd half
- Not helping off a screen which allowed Oladipo a wide open path to the basket for his dunk in the second half
I have no explanation for why Jones didn't do any of those things - they were particularly egregious defensive lapses. However, for the course of the entire game those were the exceptions rather than the rule. Jones made several fine defensive plays including several that won't show up on the DSS where he stepped in to stop drives, hedged on screens until the primary defender could recover, and switched on screens to defend shot attempts. That doesn't mean he played a good defensive game, but I don't think he was as bad as it looked based on those 4 plays listed above. I thought he was better after watching a 2nd time.
Jones defense has always been one of the under-appreciated parts of his game and I think he will be fine going forward. I join Ashley Judd in offering my support to Jones - he's still a great player and he's going to have many, many games where he is totally awesome.
A few other notes:
- One more reason why UK lost: The Indiana offense got the ball one more time than UK did. The Hoosiers started and finished the 2nd half with the ball meaning that they got an extra possession. This happens occasionally.
- Terrence Jones' offensive game wasn't quite as bad as the box score showed: he was somehow incorrectly charged with a turnover that should have been given to Kidd-Gilchrist. The play occurred in the first half when MKG dribbled to the basket in transition and ran into Jordan Hulls. It probably should have been called a block on Hulls, but MKG turned the ball over. Somehow it got charged to Jones.
- In another play involving MKG, he was credited with a block late in the 2nd half when it was actually Anthony Davis who blocked the shot. The play occurred on the same possession when MKG was charged with travelling after falling to the floor with a defensive rebound. The proper credit is given to Davis in the Defense Box Score below.
| Kentucky | Defense Box Score | ||||||||||||
| Name | Min | FGM | FGA | 3PTM | 3PTA | FTM | FTA | Def Rb | Blocks | TO | Steals | Points | Fouls |
| M. Kidd-Gilchrist | 38 | 2 | 7 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 5 | 1 | 3.5 | 2 | 6 | 1 |
| A. Davis | 24 | 3.5 | 8.5 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 8 | 7 | 2 | 3.5 | 3 | 14 | 4 |
| D. Miller | 26 | 3 | 9.5 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 9 | 3 | ||
| D. Lamb | 36 | 3.5 | 9.5 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 10 | 2 | |
| M. Teague | 31 | 1.5 | 4.5 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 1 | 5 | 2 | |
| T. Jones | 28 | 6 | 10 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 14 | |
| E. Vargas | 10 | 1 | 3.5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | ||
| K. Wiltjer | 7 | 1.5 | 1.5 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 1 | |||
| Undefended | 40 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 2 | 9 | |||
| Totals | 200 | 25 | 58 | 9 | 15 | 14 | 17 | 20 | 6 | 18 | 10 | 73 | 13 |
| Indiana | Defense Box Score | ||||||||||||
| Name | Min | FGM | FGA | 3PTM | 3PTA | FTM | FTA | Def Rb | Blocks | TO | Steals | Points | Fouls |
| C. Watford | 30 | 3 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 4 | 1.2 | 1 | 6 | 2 | |
| C. Zeller | 37 | 4 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 2.2 | 1 | 8 | 2 |
| J. Hulls | 35 | 9 | 14 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 5 | 2 | 4.7 | 4 | 23 | 3 | |
| V. Oladipo | 32 | 3.5 | 5.5 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 1 | 2.2 | 9 | 2 | |
| V. Jones III | 34 | 4 | 7 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 0.7 | 1 | 11 | 2 | |
| W. Sheehey | 16 | 2.5 | 2.5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.5 | 5 | 3 | |||
| D. Moore | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | |||
| T. Pritchard | 11 | 3 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0.5 | 6 | 1 | ||
| Undefended | 40 | 0 | 7 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 0 | ||||
| Totals | 200 | 29 | 53 | 2 | 7 | 10 | 17 | 16 | 2 | 17 | 7 | 70 | 16 |
- As bad as UK was at defending the perimeter, they were very good at guarding 2 pt shots. They did not allow a single open look inside the perimeter - every shot was contested in some fashion.
- Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Anthony Davis, and Marquis Teague were all excellent at forcing turnovers. Teague in particular did a much better job than his 1 Steal would indicate.
- You can really see how UK went after Jordan Hulls - he was victimized for 23 points on 14 field goals and 5 free throws. I was not impressed by Hulls' defense and I think Big 10 teams are going to take advantage of him the way UK did.
- UK had several wide open shots (IU's "Undefended" line) and couldn't connect on any of them. Ugh.
| Kentucky | Ratings | ||||||||
| Name | Opp eFG% | Opp TO% | FTRate | Stops | Scores | Plays | Stop% | DPoss% | Def Rtg |
| M. Teague | 44.4 | 52.8 | 66.7 | 5.6 | 2.0 | 7.6 | 0.74 | 0.14 | 98.3 |
| E. Vargas | 28.6 | 30.8 | 0.0 | 2.2 | 1.0 | 3.2 | 0.69 | 0.19 | 98.4 |
| M. Kidd-Gilchrist | 28.6 | 33.7 | 28.6 | 7.4 | 3.0 | 10.4 | 0.72 | 0.16 | 98.5 |
| Undefended | 112.5 | 29.6 | 0.0 | 3.7 | 3.0 | 6.7 | 0.56 | 0.10 | 104.3 |
| A. Davis | 41.2 | 22.9 | 94.1 | 8.5 | 6.8 | 15.3 | 0.55 | 0.36 | 104.5 |
| D. Miller | 36.8 | 12.7 | 21.1 | 3.9 | 4.0 | 7.9 | 0.50 | 0.17 | 106.6 |
| D. Lamb | 42.1 | 24.1 | 21.1 | 3.8 | 4.5 | 8.3 | 0.46 | 0.13 | 107.2 |
| T. Jones | 70.0 | 11.5 | 0.0 | 2.7 | 6.0 | 8.7 | 0.31 | 0.18 | 114.6 |
| K. Wiltjer | 133.3 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 1.5 | 1.5 | 0.00 | 0.12 | 120.4 |
| Totals | 50.86 | 25.71 | 29.31 | 38.0 | 31.7 | 69.6 | 0.55 | ||
| Exact Totals | 39.0 | 31.0 | 70.0 | 0.56 | 104.3 | ||||
| Indiana | Ratings | ||||||||
| Name | Opp eFG% | Opp TO% | FTRate | Stops | Scores | Plays | Stop% | DPoss% | Def Rtg |
| Undefended | 0 | 58.21 | 0 | 6.9 | 0.0 | 6.9 | 1.00 | 0.10 | 92.8 |
| C. Watford | 50 | 17.23 | 33.33 | 4.0 | 3.0 | 7.0 | 0.57 | 0.13 | 100.6 |
| D. Moore | 0 | 51.28 | 200 | 1.0 | 1.0 | 2.0 | 0.51 | 0.22 | 101.6 |
| V. Oladipo | 63.64 | 24.43 | 72.73 | 4.6 | 4.5 | 9.0 | 0.51 | 0.16 | 102.2 |
| C. Zeller | 66.67 | 28.25 | 16.67 | 3.8 | 4.0 | 7.8 | 0.49 | 0.12 | 102.8 |
| J. Hulls | 71.43 | 26.05 | 35.71 | 7.6 | 10.4 | 18.0 | 0.42 | 0.29 | 106.6 |
| V. Jones III | 57.14 | 8.73 | 42.86 | 2.6 | 5.4 | 8.0 | 0.32 | 0.13 | 107.2 |
| T. Pritchard | 60 | 10.03 | 0 | 2.0 | 3.0 | 5.0 | 0.40 | 0.26 | 107.4 |
| W. Sheehey | 100 | 16.67 | 0 | 0.5 | 2.5 | 3.0 | 0.17 | 0.11 | 109.7 |
| Totals | 57.41 | 24.29 | 31.48 | 32.9 | 33.8 | 66.6 | 0.49 | ||
| Exact Totals | 34.0 | 36.0 | 70.0 | 0.49 | 102.9 | ||||
Players have been sorted by Defensive Rating from best to worst.
- Teague had the best rating by a smidgen, but there really is no qualitative difference between the Top 3 Cats. He had a fine defensive game though - I hope it's indicative of things to come.
- Vargas again has a good game in limited minutes. I didn't see anything during his time that would suggest that he was over-matched against Zeller the way Hulls was against whomever he was guarding.
- Indiana absolutely could not keep UK away from the basket. You don't see a team with a 57.4 eFG% and only 2 made threes. I still think UK needed to get more looks for Lamb from the perimeter in the 2nd half though.
- I am a little surprised by Miller's final Rating - he was very good at defending shots.
The DSS will be on hiatus during the break. I'll still be collecting results, but likely won't post any until January.
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Gotta say I'm fairly impressed by Anthony Davis.
36% usage and four fouls, he still managed to be mid-pack. Most players would have had a much uglier line. Davis is a defensive beast. Kidd-Gilchrist too, of course.
I can’t remember for sure, but this looks like Jones worst performance defensively by a long way. I noticed several good plays he made in the first half and early in the second, as well as three of the four breakdowns you mentioned (I didn’t get all the way through to the fourth one, at least not yet).
You did overlook one in the first half where he failed to block out Watford and let him get an offensive rebound. I can’t remember if IU scored on that one or not, it might have been knocked out of bounds, but it was a particularly egregious lack of a block out.
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I don't remember the Jones play you mentioned
So it must not have led directly to a score (which doesn’t affect your point about it being a poor blockout). I don’t have anything to add about his lack of defensive rebounds. I got the general impression that a lot of times the bounce just didn’t go his direction, but I don’t know how much of that was simply random and how much was due to Jones not getting himself in rebound position.
I thought about watching the game again and watching what he did on missed shots, but his game has been discussed enough, I don’t think there’s much else to add.
1/x doesn't die, it just fades away.
Wouldn't you think that you could have spotted Jones up somewhere near the basket
Nailed his shoes to the hardwood and I bet he would have gotten at least one rebound.
A man is nothing more than a summation of his scars!
I agree about the bounce ...
… and a lot of the time, Davis was above the rim getting the rebound. But there were at least two times I recall when Jones was a spectator on the defensive boards instead of fighting for position.
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Un-related:
I am sad—- Shabazz is playing in my hometown in a tourny this weekend, and I cannot afford to go!!!! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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shoot.
maybe you could get tickets as an early Christmas present from your girlfriend, wife, other family member?…
But not your girlfriend AND your wife.
Just kidding, of course.
Slogan for the NCAA: If it ain't broke, break it.
I was gonna see if I could convince him to come to Rupp...
:)
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by kentuckyrules on Dec 15, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks as always
ESPN’s David Thorpe did a write-up of MKG, Jones, and Davis from the IU game.
One key tidbit from his post:
He projects to be what I now call the “power 3” — players with great size and strength who can defend the perimeter and make plays from there on offense. He’s not the athlete like the Portland Trail Blazers’ Gerald Wallace is, though he competes like Wallace and has better skills. Kidd-Gilchrist will be a guy asked to defend guys like LeBron James and Kevin Durant as soon as he gets to the NBA. In a season or two, he’ll be able to do it as well as anyone.
I guess I just haven’t been watching how effective MKG is at defending the 3. Will need to keep a closer eye.
Overall, I didn’t think Kentucky did that bad a job defending against IU. Pretty comparable to UNC, in my opinion. We had trouble keeping the ball out of the deep post, did great inside the arc, let some open 3’s go that the opponent ended up hitting.
I think this is right
Both about MKG and the defense. The game was very similar to UNC (which I was able to watch again right before the doing the IU DSS) and at least defensively I don’t think the Cats were rattled by the crowd. The breakdowns against Indiana that did occur were more obvious, but I don’t think they were more frequent than against UNC.
1/x doesn't die, it just fades away.
They were very similar, I thought.
A little different, but not a lot different. UK got hung on down screens vs. UNC, and against IU it was flat screens. Not all that different, but a little when it comes to technique.
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