Marist Red Foxes 58, Kentucky Wildcats (2) 108: Postmortem
The Kentucky Wildcats welcomed the Marist Red Foxes into Rupp Arena tonight, and has become their custom so far this year, dismissed them rather rudely by the lopsided score of 105-58 for the home team.
A big thank you to the Marist Red Foxes for making the trip from Poughkeepsie, NY all the way to Lexington. The Red Foxes played very hard and gave a very good account of themselves in the first half. Kentucky got serious in the second half and made the margin ugly, but Chuck Martin's team did some damage to the Wildcats by using John Calipari's own Dribble Drive Motion against him, spacing the floor, and utilizing their quickness to get open looks and good kick-outs to open shooters, who in turn knocked down shots.
But the second half was lopsided as Kentucky's defense stepped up and forced turnovers, leading to numerous high-flying dunks and an eventual blowout. Anthony Davis led the way with a double-double, but several other Wildcats had impressive stat lines including Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Doron Lamb.
Observations:
- Kentucky was distracted and very poor defensively in the first half. Calipari got them focused in the second, and they did the needful.
- Anthony Davis was impressive, but you have to wonder how he will fare against more massive players. Against shorter players, there is no hope. He is simply too long and too quick to defend. Game ball.
- Doron Lamb had an impressive offensive game, but he was a flat liability on defense. With that said, I was impressed at how he fought through a really nasty eye injury that almost swelled his left eye shut.
- Darius Miller had a decent-looking set of floor stats, but defensively, he was little better than Lamb, and our senior did anything but impress in this affair.
- Terrence Jones, despite not starting, didn't play horribly. He was hobbled, but gave decent effort. For me, it just wasn't great, but it was not bad for a guy who was up all night and banged up from a car wreck.
- Kyle Wiltjer mostly played well. He needs to work on defense, but overall, you have to like his solid fundamentals and understanding of what he can do versus what his teammates do.
- Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, once again, was great. No, he didn't score a ton of points, dominate the boards, or rule over the game. What he did was what he has done in every game this year -- play good team basketball, and led the team with effort, intensity, and determination.
- I loved the effort that Jarrod Polson brought in relief, especially in the first half. That kid wants to get on the floor, and you know something -- he just might.
- Eloy Vargas played some good minutes and did some good things, especially on the glass -- eight rebounds in total. Shades of Josh Harrellson, Vargas seems to be improving.
- My first version of this somehow forgot to mention Marquis Teague, who I thought played well. He took one really stupid shot, and turned the ball over too much, but he ran the team pretty well and put on a lot of defensive pressure -- some might say too much for a team as thin as UK is a the point.
Calipari will find a ton of things, especially in the first half, to show the guys on tape from the game tonight. That's a blessing, as these guys so dominated Morehouse that they may have though that it was always going to be like that. Now they know otherwise.
But there was really only one half of letdown for this team. The second half was as dominant as any half they have played, and while it's easy for fans like me to pick nits, the reality is this team is still learning how to play together, and they have lots of things to learn. Coach Cal knows this, and so do Kentucky fans. So even though this effort was not as impressive as Morehouse, it was still eminently satisfactory for this point in the season.
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Nice rundown as always, Glenn
Looking for positives, what impressed me the most tonight was UK’s second half defense. They held Marist to 17.1% shooting (Marist only had six 2nd half field goals). That’s impressive regardless of who they’re playing.
And yeah, I did a long-distance bed check, and TJ was accounted for, LOL.
Honestly
I thought that kidd-gilchrist didn’t play well. it was clear that the team was much more focused on both sides of the floor when miller was in over him. Almost all his point and assists were off forced shots/drive that would lead to turnovers against decent teams. I was very impressed with all the other freshman, but I thought miller definitely proved his worth tonight over kidd-gilchrist, who I was NOT impressed with whatsoever. He reminded me of bad ramel bradley, before he learned to calm down and run the game.
I don't think I agree with your analysis...
I thought Gilchrist brought his typical high energy game. In particular, until Jones finally checked in, he was the focus of Marist’s defense and without him we would have been in much worse difficulty working in the paint. While we all know stats don’t tell the whole story for a game, Michael was 5 of 9 FGA and made all five freethrows for a total of 15 points. He also contributed 1 assist, 7 rebounds, 2 blocks, 2 steals and only had 2 turnovers in 28 minutes. Except for fewer assists than I expected, he performed pretty much the same as he did in both exhibition games when he was declared the player of the game.
Gilchrist’s game is not at all what I’d call smooth, rather, he is recklessly aggressive – on the edge of being totally out of control – yet, his strength, athleticism and instincts keep things on the good side. It is his reckless aggression that makes him so effective. Yeah, against a better team he might turn it over more, but then I’d expect everyone to turn it over more against a better opponent.
Miller had only 8 points and 3 rebounds in 28 minutes. What he did have was 5 assists versus Gilchrist’s 1, and that may be what you are responding to. But even so, those 5 assists by Miller was only one more than he had against Transylvania. Miller’s game is comparatively smoother – and, imo, maybe too mild – as demonstrated by the fact he didn’t shoot a single freethrow against Marist.
Miller
In one stretch in the second half, Miller was clearly the best player on the floor. He rebounded, handled the ball on the break, passed well, got clean-up baskets, and hit a three pointer. Alas, however, he was MIA in the first half. Senior leaders simply cannot do this and expect to play more than aggressive freshmen who “make things happen” in a positive way.
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You and I must’ve watched a completely different game then.
It was Miller who forced his offense early and after sitting out and being ineffective… finally came alive in the 2nd half when the Freshmen were firing on all cylinders and the pressure was off him.
MKG runs the floor and weaves in and out of traffic beautifully. Amd though Marist ran out of gas, they were quick. MKG’s ball control is tight, period, and he never just charges into a group hoping something good would happen and losing the ball like previous teams.
Case in point, both seasons of Calipari’s teams had a tendency to “play down” to sloppy competition. It’s hard to stay hard nosed and aggressive when the other team isn’t challenging you nor making their shots.
Which is how this team started in the 1st Half. I saw glimpses of Wall & Co vs. Miami-OH or Knight & Co vs. Arkansas.
But then the fire reappeared and they hustled and pressed and MKG was tenacious and it was contagious to his teammates.
by Filmcat on Nov 12, 2011 3:38 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I think MKG played too recklessly in the first half at least
I remember him just charg[ing] into a group hoping something good would happen three or four times. Against better competition the outcome would not have been good. I love his determination, and motor, but he has to (and will) learn how to channel it more effectively. His ball control is very tight, I agree with that.
I don’t think Miller EVER forced any offense. A little too passive in the first half, but he didn’t make mistakes and turn the ball over either.
Maybe we were all watching different games!
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
I'll go halfway on Gillie
It wasn’t a great game offensively by him. A couple of his drives we’re a little out of control and probably would result in charges against better teams. He also missed a couple gimmes in close. His defense was still good.
Davis got muscled around again on a couple plays, but if you watched any of the UNC game during commercials you know the same thing happened to John Henson. He can still be a huge defensive presence for UK.
They finally came alive in the second half when KG was on the bench.
I haven’t seen the stats, but miller’s +/- had to have been at least 10 better than KG’s last night.
Terrence Jones....
in the words of John Clay, “played like someone who stayed out until 2:30 in the morning”
Here's the thing.....
You go hunting. You take along your coon dog. While that coon dog is young, you have to point him in the right direction, so to speak. Let him run with older dogs. Once he is up to speed, all you do is open the door to that truck box, and sit back and wait.
Cal let them learn that lesson last night. They took off and ran before he pointed them in the right direction. In the second half, they listened…..then they went hunting.
If this team survives Tuesday night, against a team that by all accounts is doing the same thing as they are, they will have the rest of the month to grow……they will be fine.
I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!
by Greg Alan Edwards on Nov 12, 2011 8:26 AM EST reply actions
You Louisville types are all alike.......lol....
I also forgot to say that I have come to the conclusion that Darius Miller is playing his game, his way, and he cares not for what any of us think.
I am going to start calling him “caulk”. He fills the gaps, he plugs holes, he goes where the openings are, and gives you a more smooth and finished look. He is not fancy, but he is necessary if you are going to produce a well finished product.
I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!
by Greg Alan Edwards on Nov 12, 2011 8:32 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah ...
… Miller isn’t trying to be a star out there. But I’d like to see a little more leadership and selfishness from him. Just a little bit.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
The young man has no ego......
it will serve him well later in life. But it hinders him on a team full of superstars. Everyone talked last night about Wiltjer being Kevin McHale, if that’s true, then Miller becomes Robert Parrish. Just grab your dinner bucket and go to work.
I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!
by Greg Alan Edwards on Nov 12, 2011 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
We all think of leadership as the kind on the floor during games,
but the truth is senior leadership lives just as much in practice, at team dinners, walking around campus, and the classroom. I wonder if Miller is more active in that leadership role. I always thought that was Patterson’s real contribution to that team. It is just a shame that we never get to see that. I don’t know if Darius is, or is not, filling that role but interesting to think about.
Agree completely
creative way to describe Miller, GAE.
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
Amen...
and errant shots get called assists…
No errant shot.
Viewed from the other side of the floor, courtesy of Cal’s video highlights, Miller tossed it up for Davis. No question.
Greg, ...
what you describe is a player on a different path than one leading to the NBA, imo.
Having gone on a few 'coon hunts,' ...
I’m convinced all they predominantly are is an excuse to abuse your liver. ’;-))
I kind of minimized some of the team stats.
24 assists against only 9 turnovers, and 13 blocked shots. Some good numbers there. Also, 40% from three.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
s'alright.....it's early in the year......
just don’t do it again…….
Hey, I sound like Cal at halftime…….only a lot quieter and less animated!!!
I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!
by Greg Alan Edwards on Nov 12, 2011 8:38 AM EST up reply actions
con't complaint...
here I go again…if we live in Kentucky we should be able to see ALL the games on TV!!!
"Every sweet has it's sour, every evil it's good."
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Same thing in Texas, dag nabbit!
At least I have ESPN3 – I would be lost without it.
Kentucky Basketball - The Reason for Living
Yep, ESPN3 has been a lifesaver here in MD.
Now if they could just keep a consistent picture quality.
About Last Night
KYCatwoman, I feel your pain. Last year visiting mother and father WPSD didn’t have the game because of NFL commitments. For the last two years I have had Direct TV with the Full Court Package and every UK game has been available but two. This year I even got to see the Exhibition Games.
Glenn, you should buy a nice coon dog. Neighbor has one and they are sweet dogs. Or dawgs if you prefer. I keep asking if I can take the dog out some night to hunt coons and he keeps saying no. Nothing like a crisp night in the woods listening to the ballgame on a radio…
Of course around here I am just as likely to kick up a Elk or cat of some type and that can be a problem.
Bball: Team was obviously distracted in the first half. My biggest concern remains the lack of bulk. However, clearly Vargas is working very hard for more playing time.
The roles on this team are mostly a long way from being defined. Last night I thought Miller added a bit more to the mix by looking like a PG for a bit in the second half. That would be interesting.
IMO, what Coach is attempting to combine :playing a pressure defense with a lot of full court,a fast break that can get virtually anyone on the team to the rim, and then not taking a quick shot and running the DDM if you didn’t get to the rim is hard to teach. This style feeds into the worst habits they get from AAU and from being superior athletes in HS.
Wiltjer is going to be huge at UK, just huge.
by darkandbloody@gmail.com on Nov 12, 2011 1:23 PM EST reply actions

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