Kentucky Basketball Recruiting: Alex Poythress Picks The Wildcats
In a press conference from his high school (Clarksville Northeast), Alex Poythress announced that he will sign a Letter of Intent to play for the Kentucky Wildcats. Poythress, a 5 star combo forward in the 2012 class, had been heavily pursued by Kentucky and head coach John Calipari.
Poythress had attended Big Blue Madness on an official visit, and following that trip, many recruitniks speculated that Kentucky was the leader. But in recent days, momentum picked up that Poythress was more interested in staying in-state to play for Memphis or Vanderbilt. Then, in a last day twist, it was rumored Poythress had dropped Memphis and had Florida, along with Kentucky, in his final two.
The bottom line? No one really knows when it comes to recruiting. In the end, Poythress decided that Kentucky was his dream school.
He comes into a great situation at Lexington. It's widely expected that Kentucky will lose sophomore power forward Terrence Jones and freshmen bigs Anthony Davis and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist to the NBA Draft following this season. That would leave Kyle Wiltjer as the only returning big man going into the 2012-13 season.
Poythress joins center Willie Cauley as the two committed big frontcourt players for Kentucky in the class of 2012. Poythress is a great get. As a combo forward, he can flex between either the power forward or small forward positions. Ideally, he will follow in the footsteps of Jones and Kidd-Gilchrist as an immediate impact frontcourt player with inside-out versatility. Poythress is above-average in almost all aspects of his game. He can score from the perimeter or the paint, is known as a plus rebounder and ball-handler, and should be a tenacious defender, especially after some Calipari tutelage.
Poythress' commitment also gives Calipari great flexibility in finishing out the 2012 class. With Poythress' available to play both the 3 or 4 spots, the Wildcats can continue to pursue a true power forward like Jarnell Stokes, or switch gears and focus solely on recruiting Shabazz Muhammad to play on the wing while Poythress mans the 4 along with Wiltjer. While Muhammad remains the top target on the board, I expect Kentucky to continue to heavily pursue another big man for position depth, whether it's a highly rated recruit like Stokes or an under-the-radar player like Chris Obekpa.
Congrats to Poythress on making his decision, and welcome to Big Blue Nation!
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by Glenn Logan on Nov 10, 2011 2:43 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
ahem,
so I guess I’m the only one who noticed how sharp he looks in his suit? No one else mentioned it, so I sort of feel obligated to do so. Love that he got all gussied up to sign. I’m a sucker for fancy dress.
amen
this girl’s definitely crazy ’bout a sharp dressed man
by blue kentucky girl on Nov 10, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
My best pressed denims don't look to bad even though the shoulder straps are a little frayed:(
A man is nothing more than a summation of his scars!
So excited!!!
Although i’m sad at the thought of MKG being a one and done. It’s only been two games but he’s already my leading favorite player on the team. He brings it all game long
Go CATS!
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by HansonManCrush on Nov 10, 2011 2:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
+1million x infinity
I am the same way…I may just buy a KG jersey now!! and even replace my JW avatar here…need to get some established pix of MKG though…
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by kentuckyrules on Nov 10, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
I read some ASOB folks stating we can still get top recruiting....
how can that be, even if we get #1, when Arizona has what, 3-4 of the top 10 already, and we’d just have 1 top ten…can someone explain how the “top recruiting classes” are ranked when it comes to gray area?
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it is an overall ranking of the entire class......one kid low in the numbers can cause your average to drop.....
but our chances of catching ’Zona are slim….
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Nov 10, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
quantity also counts
Zona looks like they’re done with their class, whereas Cal probably targets to get 2 more. So 5 prospects > 4.
I know of one more potential, but who is the 2nd??
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by kentuckyrules on Nov 10, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Kentuckyrules, you are correct, ...
I think Glenn mis-spoke in the other thread, it would still be a stretch without Shabazz.
Arizona has the following 2012 class (Using Scout rankings) :
Brandon Ashley 3
Kaleb Tarczewski 8
Grant Jerrett 23
Gabe York 42
Kentucky has this class:
Goodwin 13 SG
Poythress 16 6-8/200 Combo Forward
Cauley 28 C
The following are the only 5-Star recruits left on the board for Kentucky:
Muhammad 1 6-5/207 SF
Bennett 9 6-7/230 PF
Stokes 17 6-8/250 PF
Carter 18 6-9/245 PF
Jefferson 20 6-9/200 PF
Pollard 21 6-7/195 SF
If we get Shabazz, then I think we have a clear edge but without him, even if we get another couple of the above, it would be a question of promoting our top four as out ranking their top three – a tough sell, imo.
Numbers matter.
Kentucky needs more people than Arizona. If UK gets two more top 25 players, it’s my feeling that their class would be reckoned superior.
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Well, if this is right ...
then adding Shabazz in theory – UK would have 1, 13, 16, 28 v. 3, 8, 23, 42. I would give UK the edge there. Adding Bennett and Shabazz – 1, 9, 13, 16, 28 v. 3, 8, 23, 42 – UK would cleary have the edge. W/o Shabazz – Ariz #1 no doubt.
Blue Avenger, ...
Not sure that the PFs on that list, Bennett, Stokes, Carter or Jefferson, will commit now that Poythress has with Wiltjer staying. That leaves Pollard, someone Cal just started courting, as the last 5* besides Shabazz. As a SF, I can’t see Cal accepting Pollard’s commitment until he knows what Shabazz is going to do – that means we will only get one of them (Shabazz/Pollard) and no more big men. To jump Arizona, this class will need Shabazz’s commitment, imo.
Well- I was only talking possibilities with the math given.
What makes sense for the players in question is another thing.
As for ranking the best class, one way to think of it is to look at the average ranking (when all recruits are ranked, this works).
Shabazz alone would be enough to argue a #1 class though. A 1, 13, 16 and 28 average out to a 14.5 rating among 4 recruits, plus UK would have the highest ranked recruit. A 3, 8, 23 and 42 average to a 19, again with 4 recruits. Under this scenario, I think UK has the “top class” but neither class should be ashamed.
Ok, here is my thoughts...
from ESPN100:
Arizona: 4, 6, 9 and 36 = AVG- 13.75
UK: 13, 17 and 32 = AVG- 20.6
Right away, our BEST is barely below their “average” so even landing a 1 on top of this, we still couldn’t win with “numbers”. Since a 1 is the lowest we can get now, and all the other numbers below 13 (closes to AZ avg) are taken, its mathematically impossible to catch AZ unless they land a high number ranked player,…am I right, or crazy??
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by kentuckyrules on Nov 10, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Those rankings are different than the ones posted above that I took as given.
Your logic is sound given those numbers. Adding Shabazz gives us an avg of 15.75 – still above AZ’s average. Having the top dog is something that can give one an edge in a close case like this, but with 3 top 10’s (like UK has with this year’s frosh) that really doesn’t work so well.
Kentuckyrules is using ESPN rankings, ...
my comment used Scout.com rankings
I'm not positive which is better - but
ESPN had John Wall at 3 or 4 if I recall correctly. Can’t be a good sign about your ranking system.
"UK has now landed seven prospects -
… eight if you count transfer Ryan Harrow – in the past two seasons and the lowest ranked player is No. 28 (Cauley)." – Courier Journal
I agree with your thoughts on ESPN rankings.
Evan Daniels, National Recruiting Analyst for Scout.com, is a Kentucky boy, went to Western and lives in Lexington.
Absolutely, Jack, ...
I was just responding to your “Adding Bennett and Shabazz…” bit.
AP can play the 3 or 4, so I wouldn`t count out the PF`s in this class
BLUE!!! Is there any other color?
Also, while we're talking about it....
Though committed to Arizona, one or more of those recruits are rumored to be having touble qualifying and might not matriculate. Obviously, ultimately not being eligible will affect final team rankings and accounts for the difference between Scout.com’s rankings and, say, ESPN’s.
The number of ESPNU 100 commits is part of it.
Check out ESPN’s top recruiting classes over the past 5 years. The more top 100 you sign, the better. It helps, obviously, if they are near the top of the list. Thus, last year’s top 3 classes, which might appear to be in reverse order.
Thanks Weaver, for the details. If UK can add only 2 more (say, Shabazz and Stokes), that might do it, even if Arizona has more Top 10 players. Cal says we need 6 or 7 players next year, so we’re only halfway done.
hehehe.........heeeeeeeer'es Johhny!!!!!!
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Nov 10, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
With the nba season / rules up in the air ... Only sure thing is Miller, Vargas and maybe Poole ... ???
Of who might leave? certainly Jones and Davis … probably why Shabazz is waiting for the spring
Can you say,
SHABAZZ!!!!
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Nov 10, 2011 3:06 PM EST reply actions
OH YEAH BABY!!!

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by Greg Alan Edwards on Nov 10, 2011 3:10 PM EST reply actions
OK
Is his name pronounced as it looks. I am not talking about A-L-E-X either. Poy as in toy with a P?
i've been waiting for this moment all my life...but it's not quite right.
I believe so......
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Nov 10, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, yes ...
… did we mention Poythress has a 3.9 GPA?
I guess I just did! :-)
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by Glenn Logan on Nov 10, 2011 3:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That's a Brandon Knight type of recruit
and we need all of those we can get.
WooHoo
Thus is good news!
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by SevenRings on Nov 10, 2011 3:25 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Geez, it's like an embarassment of riches
I almost feel like I want to tuck away some of this good fortune for a rainy day.
by blue kentucky girl on Nov 10, 2011 3:26 PM EST reply actions
There are no rainy days in Kentucky basketball.
Well, not really, but it sounded brave. :-)
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seems like I might remember some...
way, way back in the misty reaches of my memory…like 2 or 3 years ago… :)
by blue kentucky girl on Nov 10, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Who would have ever thought that in Kentucky a "Dear John" letter,
would be a good thing…….???
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Nov 10, 2011 3:37 PM EST reply actions
Quick question.....
Can anyone name the last recruit that we got that WASN’T a 4 or 5-star? Not a terrible problem to have.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. -- Colonel Jessup
Great get Cal!
Might just have a basketball team next year after all… :-)
If your wings don't sweep....
Yes, we need some players to defend the CHAMPIONSHIP!!
Can I get a "GO ‘CATS’???
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by kentuckyrules on Nov 10, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Great News!
Congrats to Coach Cal again! And Welcome to the BIG BLUE NATION young man!
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
No worries
UK will now have enough talent next year for the Sweet 16 regardless of the who leaves (except Wiltjer) or whether Cal lands Shabazz. Time to sit back and enjoy the ride that starts tomorrow night.
Go Cats!
Robert Carter ...
… just committed to Georgia Tech. I don’t think he had a UK offer.
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I'm looking forward to seeing this kid play.
I used to live in Hopkinsville, so a Clarksville recruit is almost like getting a Kentucky kid
ESPN: Poythress Fits UK
Alex Poythress (Clarksville, Tenn./Northeast), No. 17 overall, is the latest super long, elite athlete headed to Kentucky.
Poythress’ versatility is what attracted coach John Calipari to the No. 1 player in the state of Tennessee. Poythress will excel in the Wildcats’ fast break because he runs the floor like a gazelle and will bring Rupp Arena to its feet with his flashy, above-the-rim finishes. He is also a terrific rebounder, in and out of his area, because of his length, athletic ability and quickness to the ball. If not aggressively boxed out, he is always a threat for a tip dunk.
In the half-court set, he is a potential matchup problem but will need to hone his back-to-the-basket moves. However, he is still very effective by simply elevating and finishing over smaller defenders. On the perimeter, he attacks less-mobile defenders relentlessly to get to the rim, which is a must in Calipari’s dribble-drive offense.
(More if you’re an Insider)
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What happend to all that talk about Cal missing out on the 2012 class?....
It wasn’t for only a few months ago that everybody was wondering and afraid Coach Cal was going to miss out on the 2012 class. I heard underhanded remarks about how the 2012 class would be really weak and how Cal has just missed the boat on this one. Now, we’re talking about have the 4th straight # 1 recruiting class if we can land 1 more talent!
It was never real.
But you know how UK fans are. :-)
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