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Conference Realignment: New Moves By Missouri To Become The 14th SEC Member

Yesterday, the Missouri Board of Curators gave Missouri Chancellor Brady Deaton unanimous consent to explore a change in conference affiliation for the school.  That seems to open up a new schism in the already-fractured Big 12 even after they recently decided to share TV revenues equally in an effort to hold the conference together:

Deaton, Alden and members of the Board of Curators have been deluged in recent weeks by emails, most of them representing sentiment for Missouri to leave the Big 12. On Tuesday, fans chanted S-E-C on a teleconference intended to connect reporters with the curators’ announcement.

There is almost no doubt that the SEC is working to obtain the 14th team they need for an even number after the recent admission of Texas A&M.  Scheduling with 13 teams is a nightmare, and it's hard to imagine the SEC putting up with that for more than a season or two.

Andy Staples of Sports Illustrated wishes this conference realignment business over and done with:

Before we go any further, here's a public-service message to the fans, coaches and misguided sports writers who still fail to grasp why all of this is happening. Schools aren't conference-jumping to win football or basketball national titles. This is about money and security. Yes, Missouri would find winning at football in the SEC to be quite difficult. But its options are to not win conference titles for a lot of money in a completely stable league or to not win conference titles for less money in a relatively unstable league. If this were only about winning at football, the SEC already would have booted Vanderbilt and brought in Boise State.

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Indeed, that's what this is all about.  The recent moves by the Big 12 to equalize revenue sharing is an important step to stability, so Missouri has to now decide whether to sign on to the new deal with them or move on.  The Big 12 has no lack of places to turn to get new members if Missouri does leave (even including our good buddies in red and black down by the river), so this move is beginning to seem very likely.

Still, hurdles remain.  Baylor threatened to sue the SEC over Texas A&M, and the University of Litigation may make a similar threat if Mizzou decides to leave, which would seemingly place them in a tough spot unless the SEC decides to man up and dare the Bears to file that pleading.  With things the way they are right now, I don't think they'll do that, but only time will tell.

As to what do do with the SEC divisions if Missouri decides to come along, Rocky Top Talk has a suggestion or two:

ALPHA DIVISION:  Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Kentucky, Missouri, Tennessee, Texas A&M

OMEGA DIVISION:  Florida, Georgia, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi State, South Carolina, Vanderbilt

...

What would we gain?  First of all, every major SEC rivalry stays intact.  Third Saturday, Iron Bowl, Cocktail Party, Egg Bowl, Deep South's Oldest, Beer Barrel, etc. all survive.  Secondly, some old friends get to see each other again.  Younger UT fans might cringe over the loss of the Georgia game, but Auburn was UT's second biggest rival pre-1992, and I'd be thrilled to have them back again.  Tennessee also gets Arkansas back on the schedule every year.

For me, keeping the major conference rivalries like the Iron Bowl, Third Saturday, etc. intact is the most important part of the new reality should it actually emerge.  Some minor rivalries would die, but expansion does not come cost free.

I suppose we'll have to just wait and see what transpires, but it seems that the smart money would be on the SEC getting to 14 sooner rather than later, and this move by Missouri certainly seems to fit that bet.

What do you think about bringing Missouri to the SEC as the 14th team?

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It's all about marketing, I think we know that...

TAMU gives the SEC a foothold in Tejas and Mizzou gives us the St Lou area. I’m OK with them coming to the SEC. Now, how the divisions are going to shake out is the next big question. Frankly, the Rocky Top suggestion above scares the crap out of me for football! For hoops, it keeps the UT rivalry going, and personally, I’d love to whip up on the “3 A’s” twice a year… heheheh

If your wings don't sweep....

by EagleTDL on Oct 5, 2011 7:56 AM EDT reply actions  

It's to the point that you can't eblieve anything until the official announcement

This thing has taken on a life of it’s own.

Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman, Champion of the Sun

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by btcoop71 on Oct 5, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

*believe

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by btcoop71 on Oct 5, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Other teams need to be careful or they might end up like Louisville.

I recently overheard Tom Jurich speaking to the other ADs in the Big East. Here is his comments in full:

My name isTom Jurich, and I am the AD for Louisville! Now, let’s get started by me giving you a little bit of a scenario of what my life is all about! First off, I am 55 years old. I tired to hold the Big East together and now I live in a van down by the river! You kids are probably saying to yourself, “Now, I’m gonna go out, and I’m gonna get the world by the tail and wrap it around and put it in my pocket!” Well, I’m here to tell you that you’re probably gonna find out, as you go out there, that you’re not gonna amount to jack squat!" You’re gonna end up eating a steady diet of government cheese and living in a van down by the river!

I… actually, Tom. I kinda wanna win conference titles.

We-e-e-elll.. la-de-freakin’-da! We’ve got ourselves a winner here! … is that John Calipari over there? From what I’ve heard, you’re using your titles, not for trophies, but for rolling doobies!! You’re gonna be doing a lot of doobie-rolling when you’re living in a van down by the river!

At this point I left because it started to get violent when he broke a coffee table and started threatening to join other people in attendance’s conferences.

by Strangeite on Oct 5, 2011 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Get this. Oscar Combs was tweeting all evening about this stuff one right after another.

In the middle of it, he brings up that Louisville going to the Big 12 could possibly end Pitino’s Career at Louisville. He supposedly is adamant about not joining the Big 12/ staying in the Big East, to the point of bucking Jurich on it.

I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!

by Greg Alan Edwards on Oct 5, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jiminy...

Give Texas A&M and Nebraska credit. They targeted their affair partner and never backed off. Meanwhile, Missouri is just opening her skirt for anyone that’ll give ‘em a wink and a gun. They’ve had ONE conference championship in their entire Big 8 & Big 12 history. ONE. IN 19 FREAKIN’ 69. My goodness.

by jc25 on Oct 5, 2011 9:30 AM EDT reply actions  

How many Big 12 championships in football has A&M had since the start of the Big 12?

Mizzou is a class act just like A&M and it’s easy to see why they got fed up with Texas’ big fish in a small pond mentality. If you want to dismiss every school that hasn’t won a conference championship you’d have pretty slim pickings for SEC expansion.

by chicagoblues on Oct 5, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mizzou is very steady and would be a very good addition to the SEC

They’re a good academic school, they’ve always been very committed to the continuity of their athletic programs, their football and basketball programs are consistently competitive and the St. Louis and Kansas City TV markets would be a nice addition to the SEC. They would be high on my list if I was Mike Slive.

by chicagoblues on Oct 5, 2011 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Geographically, it doesn't make sense...

There is no “South” nor “East” that would apply to Mizzou. Like A&M, they would seem to be a good addition to the West Division — but now we need two more schools on the other side of the conference to balance things out. Still hoping for West Virginia and either Georgia Tech or Virginia Tech to take those two spots.

Athletically, they field decent teams, but I suspect that they will join UK in the bottom tier of the conference for football, and compete with Bama, Auburn, Tennessee, and the Mississippi schools for middle-of-the-pack status in basketball.

Academically, I find them to be a good fit — at least they aren’t a diploma mill.

Revenue wise, they may add incremental viewers in the St Louis and Kansas City markets, but I am not convinced that those are big college sports towns. Lots of pro teams to compete for TV ratings.

All in all, I am just not sold on the value of adding Missouri to our fold. If it has to be another team on the western side, I would rather pick up Baylor, or Rice, or either of the Oklahoma schools. But, that is but one fan’s opinion — there are millions who will disagree!

I am not at all sure that they would stir up much interest in St Louis or Kansas City, but it would help out incrementally in those markets..

by Tiptree on Oct 5, 2011 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

As a St Louis area resident I can tell you this area loves Mizzou

But you are right that they have to compete with St Louis pro sports, but right now the Rams aren’t that good and the Cardinals’ season will end sometime in Sept/Oct so the only true competition is the Blues. St Louis itself only has SLU to compete with for basketball TV time and the only other college big around here are the MVC schools (their conference baskteball tournament is held here every year) and Illinois. It wouldn’t be a huge gain like New York, Chicago or Philly but it is a bigger market to gain than West Virginia, Louisville, or any other school I have seen mentioned lately.

The other big gain I see is that SEC games will actually be on TV here and I won’t have to rely as much on ESPN for my Wildcat fix.

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Oct 5, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

How many Mizzou fans are in Kansas City? Are there enough to get a potential SEC network added there (St. Louis would seem a lock).

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by btcoop71 on Oct 5, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mizzou fan living in KC here

I certainly dispute the above assertion that KC isn’t a great college sports town—it’s actually a fairly obsessive college sports town, in large part because the population splits between several schools. It is, to be fair, probably more of a college basketball town than college football town, given the number of counference tourneys, NCAA tourney games, and NAIA championships the city has hosted over the years. The fact that we have no NBA team also helps—it means college basketball is really the only game in town from January to March. Based on driving around town, I’d say the Metro area as a whole probably breaks down 40 percent KU fans, 30 percent Mizzou fans, 20 percent K-State, 5 percent Nebraska, 5 percent other.

So no, Mizzou certainly does not dominate the KC market—really no school does—but it carries a big chunk of that market, and Mizzou fans here tend to be rabid in their support simply because they inevitably work with and are friends with lots of fans of other schools. St. Louis is MUCH more heavily Mizzou-tilted than Kansas City, but really the competition for attention there is not with other colleges but with Albert Pujols.

But to answer your question, I would be shocked if an SEC Network were not picked up in KC if Mizzou were in it. Particularly given that AT&T seems to be working hard to steal customers from Time Warner throughout the region, I don’t think a cable carrier in KC could risk losing tons of subscribers if their rivals carried the channel.

by Professor Chaos on Oct 5, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

good add

… and the proposed divisions is a good temporary solution, since the common held concept is the stable end target number is 16 teams, which probably leads to 4 groups of 4 teams and a playoff championship in football.
Mizzou will fit culturallly, add academically, be respectable in football, and add to basketball program status… oh an incidently add to the marketing footprint of the conference.

Plusses across the board as far as I can see.

Now on the east… seems we are missing the boat in Virginia and North Carolina to stake out our region solidly.

by blenheim bard on Oct 5, 2011 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

That Rocky Top Talk suggestion makes me ill

We might as well write “SEC doormat” in Big Blue ink in the endzones of Commonwealth.

I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!

by Greg Alan Edwards on Oct 5, 2011 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Here is an interesting thought.....

Will conference realignment,. and possibly increasing conference schedules, spell the end of the UK/UL Rivalry?

I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!

by Greg Alan Edwards on Oct 5, 2011 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I could see the football game moved to every other year

but basketball would remain a yearly thing, there is no reason not too with the number of out of conference games you can have.

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Oct 5, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, basketball could survive anything, especially while Cal is here, he will take on anyone anywhere

but if and when it gets to 16 teams it becomes dicey.

I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!

by Greg Alan Edwards on Oct 5, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

My thought is losing one or two at-large games in football

Woudn’t we lose an at-large gimme game because of having to play possibly another one or two additional SEC teams in conference. There would go any possible 6-6 or 7-5 bowl bid out the window.

A man is nothing more than a summation of his scars!

by KansasUKCat on Oct 5, 2011 6:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I like the idea of bringing in a good portion of the St. Louis market with Mizzou...

… but really don’t like those proposed divisions by Rocky Top. That would be murder.

I would rather they put us in the HALGUAC (Hey, At Least Give Us a Chance) Division of:

UK, Miss, Miss St, Vandy, Guess it Doesn’t Matter, Guess it Doesn’t Matter, Guess it Doesn’t Matter

.

"Man I don't want to talk about guys (Moss) who left us, you know. Why would I you know. We talk about Randall probably a little too much. He left us also."

by HSLex on Oct 5, 2011 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

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