My, My - We got us a quarterback controversy
In one night Kentucky football went from something you want to lock in a closet to something you want to talk about. Have I gone off the deep end thinking UK has turned the corner and is going bowling? No, and I don't even want to think about how this season will finish out.
With a surprising performance (26 for 33, 174 yards) Max Smith has now given us football's most noteworthy debating argument - the quarterback controversy. And this one has a couple of interest twists. First Morgan Newton got injured and second, there is a weird win-lose(?) outcome to Joker's legacy.
Joker says Newton's injury (high ankle sprain, shoulder) will be looked at tomorrow and that contributes a bit to the drama. A good quarterback controversy needs at least two quarterbacks so even that adds a bit of uncertainty to the argument. At some point Newton will be healthy and it could be this week since Joker already said "we'll have a decision to make." Ya think?! Joker, I hope you make the right decision - and we're back to the controversy. Oh, boy!
What is more bizarre is how this whole quarterback "controversy" opens up Joker's version of Pandora's Box. There's not much debating that Joker is under a sizable groundswell of negativity from the fan. They want to see progress immediately or a different name on the Head Coach door.
Thought it might be interesting to look at how the whole quarterback event shapes the perception of Joker -
Case #1 - Max Smith has seen the light, his fire and leadership lifts whole team and gets Kentucky's embarrassing stats a boost toward respectability. Fans' mood improves season ends on a high note, all attention immediately turns to basketball. Joker easily keeps job into next season.
Case #2 - Max Smith's performance against MSU was an aberration, Newton can't return, but Smith leads us on to a bumbling finish with stats about on par with what Newton has done. Fan's abandon Joker, fan base is lost. Joker begins next year with heat on medium.
Case #3 - In the upcoming Ole Miss game, Smith repeats his South Carolina performance and is replaced by Newton for the rest of the year, Kentucky finishes year playing the same as they have to date finish abysmally. Fan's abandon Joker, fan base is lost. Joker begins next year with heat on medium.
Case #4 - Newton replaces Smith for rest of the year....yada...yada....yada... Fan's abandon Joker, fan base is lost. Joker begins next year with heat on medium.
This seems somewhat bizarre that Joker could be thought of more favorably by the fan base if he was mistaken about his choice of Newton as the starter.
If Joker suddenly improves this season with Smith I'll be raising more than eyebrows. Strange that what's best for the program - success - is something that will a mixed bag for Joker.
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The only place there is a controversy,
is in Joker’s mind.
Smith earned it, he played through a few really tough hits, and he got better as he went, in spite of his line doing very little.
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Oct 30, 2011 8:14 AM EDT reply actions
The good news is
they will not see many defenses like last night. Miss. St. has many blitz schemes and they are difficult to stop. That makes Smith’s performance even brighter.
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The stats show that Smith had three sacks.
Consider that MSU threw the majority blitzes at him when he first got into the game to try to rattle him. That defensive effort got the first two sacks pretty early in Smith’s playing time and they only sacked him once after he got acclimated to the game. Pretty damn good in my book.
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I was impressed
by his keeping his head and not getting rattled. If they can give him 1 more second he may surprise us all.
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It seems ...
… that Phillips is not being as reflexive as I suspected he might:
Smith played well enough that Phillips said afterward there will be a quarterback competition this week to determine Kentucky’s starter for next Saturday’s game with Mississippi.
I honestly did not expect that.
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I read
The presser transcript as no decision one way or the other until after Morgan’s injuries are looked at a little more. I could be wrong though.
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It will be Newton if....
I think Newton will be the starter if he is able to play. Just as this articled indicates, if Joker goes with Smith now, it would show that he indeed made a judgment mistake by not going with Smith to begin with. You have to stick with your guns.
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I think so too
Newton will be the starter if he is able to play.
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Morgan should be injured this week
Let Max start the Ole Miss game. Say Morgan’s ankle injury is severe enough that he will be held out this week, even if it’s not. Let Morgan save some face while still trying out Max. If Max stinks up the joint in the first half, Morgan can valiantly return in the second half and try and attempt to play the hero.
UK should start Max next week, but Morgan’s injury provides the perfect excuse. This way if Max’s performance was actually an aberration, Morgan can slide back in with minimal embarrassment.
I believe its just about everybody's point. ;-)
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It is one thing to make a mistake
in the off season. When the rubber meets the road and it is obvious that your choice is not getting the job done, it is a bigger mistake not to make the needed midcourse correction. This is where we learn if Joker has a future here.
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It could be that Joker's legacy will be as a paragon of stubbornness.
As head coach he has already excelled in his myopic devotion to Newton, assistant coaches and the offensive scheme without regard to personnel despite obvious facts to the contrary. I’m sure he has hanging in his office a plaque for “Excellence in Round Pegging to Square Holes”.
How can he suggest there will be a quarterback competition after that performance by Smith? He should have just said something to the effect that Smith had demonstrated under game conditions that he deserves to be named a starter for the Ole Miss game. Regardless of the severity of Newton’s injury he needs to show some moxie and be decisive. While its admirable to guard against hurting a player’s ego (Newton) his job is Head Coach of a TEAM. Newton has had more than enough chances to show his talents while the team has spiraled.
He simply cannot change his mind or acknowledge he might have made a whopper of a mistake in his selection and continued promotion of Newton.
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by hoboat33 on Oct 30, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Quick question -
If Coach Cal had some player come off the bench in a game and overshadow the stats and performance of the person he replaced, wouldn’t that player immediately get a starting nod for the next game? Especially if the player being replaced had been playing subpar for over half of the season?
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Methinks
it wouldn’t take Cal half the season.
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Let's not get carried away.
Smith has sucked a lot this season, much worse than Newton. Let’s not forget that. And he is still making game-losing mistakes.
While his upside looks way bigger than Newton’s today, it is a development that is only 1 day old.
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by Glenn Logan on Oct 30, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Every major accomplishment
starts with a first day. Someone has to see the promise and allow the spark to become a flame. Cal sees these opportunities, Joker has not proven yet that he has that capability. Here is opportunity. And I do not agree that Smith has sucked more than Newton. Smith has had fewer opportunities and his mistakes will glare more because of that but he has demonstrated capabilities that Newton does not possess. A good coach will find a way to emphasize and utilize the best talents of each.
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You do not agree?
It’s not a matter of agreement, it is an objective fact. Disagreement can only exist, rationally, where there is room for interpretation. In this case, I can’t see how any exists.
Both have played in practice and in games, and clearly Smith has not given Phillips any reason to change starters. Given what I have seen up until yesterday, I think that decision was totally sound.
As far as coaching, you cannot emphasize what does not exist. Until yesterday, there was nothing in Smith’s performance to emphasize.
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by Glenn Logan on Oct 30, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Valid points on both sides of the issue.
Going forward is the question. Joker either stays hooked on Newtonian football or shakes the team up with a change. I see no future in the former as I have seen little progression from game 1 through when Newton left the game yesterday; however, Smith at least represents a ray of hope that we can complete passes and move the ball.
Smith was finally given some significant playing time and once he got up to speed, performed admirably. As head coach, Joker needs to take advantage of any positives on the team. Being reluctant to name his starter for next week regardless of Newton’s injury shows me a bull-headedness that leaves me less than pleased.
So back to the original theme of the post: Joker is in a tough spot. He placates the fan base in the short term with Smith starting and exposes himself to long term ridicule for not making the switch earlier in the season if Smith excels OR he sticks with Newton and pisses off everyone if we see more of the same.
The best case scenario for Joker if he sticks with Newton and he leads the team to suddenly improved performance. I just think that is the least likely of all scenarios.
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I disagree once again
about nothing in Smith’s performance to emphasize. I remember the first game he came in and his first series of plays. He immediately showed timing and touch with the pass that Newton so severely lacks. His problem is more with not getting enough reps in the games and in practices. I go back to the coaching issue. Joker has chosen to lose games with a quarterback that does not demonstrate SEC capability rather than lose with one that shows that ability but needs to build experience. The former choice moves us nowhere, the latter builds the base for success in the future. What is it going to take, an apple falling from a tree and hitting Newton in the head, to show Joker the gravity of the situation?
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by kywineman on Oct 30, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In fairness to Joker
While Smith might be the best person to QB for the remainder of the season, he was probably nowhere near ready to start at the beginning of the year.
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by Alex Scutchfield on Oct 30, 2011 10:15 AM EDT reply actions
Very good point.
My questions are: Why does it take an injury to Newton to get enough game time for Smith to show his ability? and Why doesn’t Joker show some decisiveness, go ahead and name him next week’s starter and get the fan base buzzing? After all, this is a sport with its primary purpose to entertain the fans. A new quarterback in a loss could well be more entertaining than the old quarterback in a loss.
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It seems we have lots of questions
But we have to wait for the answers. :-)
I hate waiting too.
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I think Joker
is protecting Newton as much as possible from embarrassment at being replaced by a freshman. However, it is a team sport and the needs of an individual cannot supersede the needs of the whole.
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Well, he's had chances, to be fair.
And he has blown them. Period.
Now, this was by far his best look, and that does matter, of course. But my suspicion is that he hasn’t been performing that well in practice either.
Smith said something about a light going on. That’s how it usually happens, but you can never predict when. It clearly hasn’t come on for Newton yet, so if the game is starting to slow down for Smith, he should and probably will get a chance to take the job. Phillips has said as much.
Of course, we may doubt his veracity, but Phillips knows that if Newton can’t play better than he has been, winning is a physical improbability. Smith, playing like he did yesterday, gives us a chance, but not pitching balls to the competition or failing to pick up obvious blitzes like he did against South Carolina and LSU respectively.
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by Glenn Logan on Oct 30, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't care if my quarterback hasn't been performing in practice
if he turns up on game day and throws 26 for 33. Glenn, I’m sure you’ve played on teams where there are players that play lights out on game day but don’t practice worth a hoot. Didn’t your coaches understand that and eventually get those players on the field come game time? That’s all I ask from Joker/Sanders. And at this level, don’t take a year to come to that level of understanding of your players.
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But up until now, he hasn't performed in games, either.
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by Glenn Logan on Oct 30, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
The way this season is going
I’ll take one good most of a game and a few horrible segments from Smith to outweigh 7 bad to mediocre games from Newton. ;-)
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Exactly right.
Not only that, in every opportunity he has had so far up until yesterday, “underwhelming” would be a galactic understatement.
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by Glenn Logan on Oct 30, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
In the first eight games of this season
how many times has Newton been less than underwhelming? He is the wrong man for the position. He is an athlete, put him in a position that capitalizes on athleticism. That is called coaching, something we have seen damn little of this season.
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He has been underwhelming all of them.
But Smith has been even more underwhelming, up until today. So I’m not sure under what logic you reach your conclusion. You don’t replace a player with somebody worse just because the player in question is underwhelming.
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by Glenn Logan on Oct 30, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd replace Newton with Smith without question.
From Joker’s perspective it would shut up the fans and ease the heat a bit. It also would give him the ability to judge Smith under game conditions not practice conditions. If it works out, everyone is happy you finally made the change. If it doesn’t work out, you put Newton back in and give the fans a collective “Dammit, I’m Head Coach and I told you so! Shut up and I’ll do my job.”
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This is only interesting to me because I didn't even know who Max Smith was before today.
Of course I have not been keeping tabs on footbal like I do with the other major sport. Sounds like Smith has had a number of opportunities this year and blown them all, except for possibly last night (which I see was a loss, but apparently he had decent numbers). What are his stats from all of the other chances he has had in the games this year?
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He was very bad in his previous appearances.
Of course, his first chance was against what is being touted as the best defense in the country – LSU. Against USC he was horrible, two consecutive passes intercepted and general ineptitude.
I’ll make a few excuses for him – not a starter so he didn’t get reps with the 1st team, played in too few plays to establish any rhythm or get a feel for the game, offensive line was still in early stages of working as a unit and plays not called to suit his skill set.
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I guess
even if Smith was a great QB, how could he excel on a team like ours? The defense seems to be half-way decent, middle of the pack at best in the SEC. The offense – all of it – would seem to me is the worst in the SEC. Even a great QG is not going to play this team into a bowl game. At least that is what I have been hearing and seeing. The QB question is only improtant, really, for next year in terms of game experience for these guys. If Smith has a chance to play next year, it would be smart to get him some game experience this year when we have no chance at salvaging this season.
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My point being
that I guess this “controversy” is only moot for the die hard fans that are still paying attention! The first real game of the basketball season starts on my birthday, and that is where my attention lies at this point. I admit I’m a bandwagon football fan in years like this. But it does have to be pretty bad for me to jump off. I’m guilty of this. (I am not a UK alum, by the way – so maybe that partially explains my ambivalence.)
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Well, I'm one of those die hard football fans
and to me it matters. (I’m not saying it doesn’t matter to you – just maybe not as much.) Overall, this topic will at least make for some interesting discussion this week and keep UK football somewhat interesting to talk about.
If Newton stayed healthy through yesterday’s game and we went on to lose by the same or worse score, today’s discussion would simply be about how bad we suck in football and what’s the latest basketball news.
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I'm not an alum either
My grandmother and mother were die hard fans and my allegiance is/will always be there. They both would haunt me for less. :-)
I have two brothers that are alumni and they are both bandwagon fans so that is not really a true measure.
I have always been a basketball fan, football just the last few years. I now favor football because I love the game. Good or bad, UK will always be my favorite. So yes, I am a die-hard football fan.
It is good to know you don’t jump off at little things. Good for you. ’-)
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I like college football
but I’m not a die-hard fan of any college football team. Probably because of the lack of competitiveness of college football in Kentucky – for a great many years. I get enjoyment out of watching any two teams play, although I tend to route for SEC teams over other conferences. No one in my family is a die hard UK football fan. We were raised on basketball. But I certainly pull for UK when they play – I just don’t always keep up with them so much when they are extremely non-competitive. I have gone through losing seasons with basketball and still pulled for and kept up with them just as much as ever. It will never be the same for me with UK football.
I am a Dolphins fan since I was 7 – and even though they have the longest losing streak in pro football I am still a fan for what it is worth. The Dolphins are in a similar position – there is nothing they can do this year to get into the post season. Realistically the very best they could do is 6-10 or so it the lights came on today. It will likely end up much worse. They need to start working on next year. If they don’t, they will end up in the same position this time next year.
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Maybe they are working on next year
draft wise that is.
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If they’re LUCKy. (Sorry, had to do it.)
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No you didn't!
I’m sure it was pUNINTENDED.
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While Smith's limited appearances
in tough situations did not result in positive game performance, there were some signs of what we need in a quarterback. I believe we have reached a point where we have to develop potential and write off the previous approach. I do not expect Smith to turn us around in the next few games and win 3 of them and lead us to a bowl game, but I would bet everything I have that Newton will not do it. Don’t forget that one of Roark’s few drops last night was a nice pass to the end zone that he mistimed his jump on. Smith’s timing and touch on the passes show a field vision that Newton has not demonstrated.
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Agree
To me, the short and long term upside of Smith is much more than Newton. Is this a case of “familiarity breeds contempt”? From my point of view, probably, but I’ll still be pulling for Smith and it’s repercussions on Joker’s judgement.
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Newton throws the football
Smith passes it. Since we play a style of offense using a pocket passer, Smith is the better fit.
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This is cool.....everybody else made all my arguments and I get to come in at the end and say this:
If Smith does not start, then we hired the wrong coach. When a man is so set in his ways that no matter what, he cannot change to help make the kids that are playing for him a success, then he has lost his usefulness as a coach.
One of the things I credit to Bill Bellichick is that he not only makes players play within his system, he adjusts his system to fit his players and their skill sets.
You know why veterans who play nowhere else and seem to have outlived their usefulness find ways to continue to shine in New England? Because Bellichick knows how to get the most out of every one of his players.
I don’t know how he does it, and frankly I don’t need to. But every coach in the country, both pro and college could learn from that man. And he was not always that smart. In his early years he tried putting square pegs in round holes. He quickly learned to do otherwise. I suggest Joker do the same.
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Oct 30, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions
Joker
Last night’s game exposed Joker’s horrible judgment in the favoritism he’s showed to Morgan Newton. Max Smith has QB skills and can improve. Morgan Newton has zero QB skills and cannot improve. What have our coaches been looking at in practice?
Max Smith
One thing to keep in mind is that Joker has continually insisted that Newton has been “getting better”, learning on the job. Something apparently only he could see, because we never really saw the improvement. Yet it seems that Max-over a considerably shorter period of time-has shown improvement, and adjusted accordingly.
Newton, after three years and twenty something starts-is basically still the same player. Smith-in less that one year and no starts-has shown significant improvement. Doesn’t take a genius to figure out which guy gives you the best chance now, and down the road. Go Max!
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Max Smith has most certainly NOT
been given the same opportunities in practice and games as Newton has. How can anyone even say this?
When Smith as been given the practice reps and preparation of a first-string quarterback going into a game, then he will have had the same opportunities as Newton did in previous games.
And no, being brought into a situation where the opponent is already stomping us and has its ears pinned back- and after a week of taking 2nd-string snaps in practice- is not the same thing.
Prepare Smith this week as the starter and we’ll take our chances.
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"Man I don't want to talk about guys (Moss) who left us, you know. Why would I you know. We talk about Randall probably a little too much. He left us also."
Well ...
Max Smith has most certainly NOT
been given the same opportunities in practice and games as Newton has. How can anyone even say this?
I have a question. Who said this? I know I didn’t. As a second-string quarterback myself in high school, I know how this works, or how it used to.
The second-string quarterback never gets the same opportunities as the starters, and if he wants to take the job, coming in under duress and succeeding is one of of the ways that happens. The other way is replacing the injured starter.
We saw the latter, but he had opportunities for the former and blew them. It’s one thing to come in and miss a couple of passes. It’s another thing to be directly responsible for three opposing touchdowns in two games and throw two consecutive interceptions in one.
So pardon me if I’m not quite sold on the idea that he should be anointed “The Man” yet that despite his performance yesterday. The reasons he is getting all these accolades has more to do with frustration and pure emotionalism that objective reality. The second-string quarterback, as Phillips has said, is always the favorite when the team is struggling.
I’m not taking a thing away from Smith’s performance yesterday, and I also think that he should be given a legitimate chance to start after his performance. I don’t think he gets the job without winning it, and one game, especially a losing one, doesn’t make him the heir apparent to Tim Couch.
But if he’s ready and Newton isn’t, or if he’s just plain better than Newton in a competition, he should replace him. My recollection is that Mike Hartline when he was a junior found out how that works. I’d be fine if Newton was done for the season as the starter based purely on his performance so far — but only if :Smith can be consistently better.
So I say start him next game — I think he’s earned it. Besides, there is room to play two quarterbacks situationally on this team, and I think that’s what we’re likely to see. That is, if Newton is healthy enough to play next week.
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Then all of your mentions of Smith
blowing his past chances are within the context of the preparation that he was given as the 2nd-string quarterback. Fair enough.
I don’t even know who the starter should be- although I suspect Smith. After he has played a game or two with first-stringer preparation, as Newton has enjoyed, I might feel more comfortable making a direct comparison between the two and forming an opinion about who has blown what chances.
The jury is still out.
And no, I definitely do not just take anything Joker says about practice as the gospel.
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"Man I don't want to talk about guys (Moss) who left us, you know. Why would I you know. We talk about Randall probably a little too much. He left us also."
That's correct.
For what it’s worth, I absolutely trust Phillips’ view of practice. He is an expert football coach, and substituting my judgment, which is vastly inferior based on experience alone, seems the very height of hubris.
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Just out of curiosity...
… does this trust that you have extend to all other college football coaches? All of them have more experience than you do.
Or has Joker (specifically) done something in the last two years for you to count him among those that you trust?
Also, what I wrote was about what Joker says after the practices, not necessarily what he “views” of them. I actually hope that some of what he has said falls under the heading of positive thinking and reinforcement- and is not what he actually “viewed” as an “expert”. Otherwise….
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"Man I don't want to talk about guys (Moss) who left us, you know. Why would I you know. We talk about Randall probably a little too much. He left us also."
Did you talk yourself into thinking Smith should be named the starter next week or
were you just initially taking a barristerial view? Seems you started with vagaries like “he should be given a legitimate chance to start after his performance” and ended up “So I say start him next game..”. Welcome to the dark side. ;-)
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I try never ...
… to be reactionary.
I guess I don’t see things like this as black and white as some people do, and I’m not emotional over the fact that we have struggled. It happens. Morgan Newton is trying, but he has lost his confidence, and never has really gotten comfortable in the position. That doesn’t necessarily mean he should lose his job unless there is someone better at it.
So far, I think we can all agree that up until Saturday, Smith was not demonstrably better at it. I would argue that given the admittedly limited opportunities he had been given (opportunities in which he was generally so bad it didn’t justify giving him much more) he showed nothing worthy of consideration.
Saturday was different, and I think that no matter where we were in a season, if a kid shows that much in one game, he deserves a chance to back it up, particularly when he came in for an injured player. He has to back it up in practice as well as the game, but he should be given the opportunity to do so. If he does, then it is on.
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Motivation.
Is it possible that Smith didn’t show as much in practice because he knew that Newton’s starting was a done deal? I personally hope not because that would not be a good character trait for Smith but if teammates feel that there are favorites and there is no way to beat them out, it can be demotivating. If Smith suddenly turns his performance around in practice, Joker might want to look in the mirror.
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Reply.
Is it possible that Smith didn’t show as much in practice because he knew that Newton’s starting was a done deal?
If so, then he deserved the bench. A player should always be trying his best, and if he was packing it in because he thought it was a fait accompli, he is not who we need at the position.
I don’t accept that argument.
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by Glenn Logan on Oct 31, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Or we need a better motivational coach is the counter argument.
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'preciate it.
It seems as though Joker may be waking up to his worst nightmare. The football news will definitely be holding my attention this week.
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If Smith is announced as the starter
then I will have much more interest in the game. If he goes back to Newton, I may not watch.
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If Newton is the starter, it might be painful to watch.....
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Oct 31, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
A little, but not much, off subject
but Glenn will be most interested that 4 Roses Single Barrel just won Bourbon of the Year. Now if the Football Cats would just give us a positive reason to drink some that would be great.
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Oh, wow!
Thanks for that, kywineman! That’s very cool to know.
The ’Cats have given me plenty of reason to drink, just not the right ones. :-)
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by Glenn Logan on Oct 31, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe the Cats losing has been good for business.
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