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Kentucky Football: Will We Be Seeing Theltus "Bookie" Cobbins Next Week?

Theltus Cobbins (nickname "Bookie") hasn't seen a moment of play yet, but we talked a bit about him back before the season.  Cobbins is a sort of heir apparent to Randall Cobb with much of the same skill set -- he can run, he can throw, and he can make plays for the offense.

The reason UK got such a talented guy is that, like Cobb, UK was willing to play him at quarterback when nobody else was.  Almost every school wanted Cobbins as an athlete, a guy who they could put in the slot or use for kick returns.  Cobbins wanted a chance to play quarterback, and Phillips was fine with that.  He'll have to compete for it, though, and Cobbins does not have the prototypical drop-back passer skills and size for the offense UK runs.

One thing about Cobbins -- he's legitimately fast, with 4.4 speed.  If you're the opponent and he gets to he edge on you, it's "Houston, we have a problem."  Cobbins is also a very confident young man who has no fear of taking the game on his shoulders.  He's a unique talent that Phillips was undoubtedly hoping to hold to a redshirt this year, but it looks like he's going to burn that if Cobbins has an impact in practice this week.

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Another interesting comment Phillips made today:

ON WHETHER THERE’S A FUTURE RANDALL COBB IN THE PROGRAM NOW: "Everybody talks about Randall. The guy who made a huge difference: Mike Hartline. People won’t like to hear that, but Mike Hartline made a huge difference in getting our protections set, getting the ball out of his hands, getting the ball to those guys who made plays for us. Hartline is a huge, huge loss. We had three really good players in Randall, (Derrick) Locke and Mike. But Mike Hartline is the guy I think was probably the biggest loss we had. It’s hard to see 3,000 yards walk out the door."

This is going to go against the grain, but I think Phillips is right.  We tend to forget that Hartline was the second leading passer in the SEC when Ryan Mallet was #1, and not by all that much.  He got the ball to Randall Cobb, Chris Matthews and Derrick Locke in position to advance the football, and after having seen Morgan Newton for five games now, the difference is striking.

Phillips went on to say that Newton's #1 problem is holding on to the football too long, and he's right.  I went back and looked at the Florida game, and except for the two sacks where the line simply failed to block a rusher, the rest of those sacks were arguably caused by Newton.

John Clay has more here.

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I dont care if they got Mickey Mouse out there under center. Newton is not competent enough to play in the SEC which I find odd especially with the roads wins he had last year versus S. Carolina and Georgia. Honestly I think he was a better QB at that point hten he is now. Which makes no sense what-so-ever…

by bigblue1985 on Oct 3, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

He's not going to replace Newton.

More like a compliment.

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by Glenn Logan on Oct 3, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess it cant hurt at this point, or can it??

I dont want to mess up the kid’s chances for any success in the future to try and save what I am not sure can be saved….

I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!

by Greg Alan Edwards on Oct 3, 2011 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Until he actually plays ...

… it may not happen. It depends on how he practices.

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by Glenn Logan on Oct 3, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK Folks, here is the question of the day,

Is the drop-back pro style passer on the way out of existence?

Has Michael Vick ushered in the wave of the future? There are more Vick-type QB’s in the NFL than ever before, but are they going to replace the QB of today and history? ( Fran Tarkenton aside)…..

I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!

by Greg Alan Edwards on Oct 3, 2011 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

No.

That is all.

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by Glenn Logan on Oct 3, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

dang, that was quick.....lol

I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!

by Greg Alan Edwards on Oct 3, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh. :-)

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by Glenn Logan on Oct 3, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be so quick to discount change.

Football is always evolving whether something new or, more commonly, a blend of past offenses. Roughly there has been the introduction of the Early T, Single Wing, Short Punt, Box, Wing T, Pro Style, I Formation, Veer, Wishbone and the many forms of Spread. We could very well be seeing the birth of the new offense for the next 20 years – a combination of Single Wing, T and Spread. Of course, we’ll be running Sid Gillman’s and Paul Brown’s Pro Style, circa 1950.

Don't take life too seriously; no one gets out alive.

by hoboat33 on Oct 3, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Death of the pocket passer

Negative. Michael Vick’s great but the running qb mold has yet to win big in the NFL. Vick get hurts too much because of the punishment he takes. I hav yet to see a running qb that can last a full season at the next level.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Oct 3, 2011 5:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Vick's main problem is his lack of size.

Cam Newton could be the new model but it will be a while before those athletes percolate up through the system (high school, college). There have been some others (Tebow, White, etc.) but few coaches at bigger programs are willing to put their job on the line while installing “gimmick” offenses. Look no further than Rodriguez for proof. Those that do succeed (Myers, Leach, Kelly, Peterson) create a cult following that pushes the new offenses a little more mainstream.

Don't take life too seriously; no one gets out alive.

by hoboat33 on Oct 3, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uhhh... Houston...

Sorry Boss, somehow this got “flagged” instead of “rec’d”??? Many humble apologies…

And my statement below should have been a reply… PEBKAC (Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair) I’d guess??

If your wings don't sweep....

by EagleTDL on Oct 3, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

It did that this morning to me too Eagle. I thought I flagged Glenn too. '-)

It shows flagged but if you refresh the page and it shows rec’d. It also just happened again. Not sure what’s going on with the site.

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by a2d2 on Oct 3, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cool... Thanks Sis!

Thought I’d pooped in the Boss’ Wheaties there for a minute or two… :-)

If your wings don't sweep....

by EagleTDL on Oct 3, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's my job........lol

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by Greg Alan Edwards on Oct 4, 2011 6:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I discovered this a long time ago.

It’s caused by a short field in the comment system. It is trying to display “1 rec” but it looks like it’s trying to tell you 1 flag because it leaves of “rec,” which get’s eaten by way the system displays it.

Just ignore it, it’s an anomaly in the platform.

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by Glenn Logan on Oct 4, 2011 6:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, it is time to man up or shut up.......

because Joker’s so far unfounded faith in his QB could cost him his job if the wrong person gets fed up with it…..

I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!

by Greg Alan Edwards on Oct 3, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully we'll see him fulfull his father's opinion expressed before the '09 Auburn game.

"I think they are going to have some things to see and there will be some fireworks with this offense. I know Morgan has really been encouraged by all the guys he’s playing with and thinks they have some great talent." Oh, those were the days………;-)

Don't take life too seriously; no one gets out alive.

by hoboat33 on Oct 3, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too!

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Oct 3, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great point!

Wow, what’s left to say (as the gaunlet crashes to the floor)??

If your wings don't sweep....

by EagleTDL on Oct 3, 2011 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Go Bookie!

Don't take life too seriously; no one gets out alive.

by hoboat33 on Oct 3, 2011 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Go Bookie!

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There is something about faaaaasst that just makes it so darn hard not to like…

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"I watch (UK) every night... I am going to support them for the rest of my life. I'm a Wildcat for the rest of my life." -- JWall, 2/8/11

by HSLex on Oct 3, 2011 6:50 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

Fast is good.

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by Glenn Logan on Oct 3, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

UK has so many problems on the offensive side of the ball that

I don’t think they will get it figured out this season. Play for next year, whatever that means.

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Oct 3, 2011 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't take life too seriously; no one gets out alive.

by hoboat33 on Oct 3, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

That’s the spirit. Even if we can’t win them all, we could certainly win enough.

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by Glenn Logan on Oct 4, 2011 6:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

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