Kentucky Football: What Can Be Done About The Offense?
It's no mystery why Kentucky is struggling this season in football -- the offense is simply unable to offend anything. This is perhaps the most futile Kentucky offense since Bill Curry was trying to convert Tim Couch into an option-style quarterback.
For many years, Kentucky has been used to an exciting offense. When Hal Mumme ran the team, it was the wide-open "Air Raid" offense. When Rich Brooks was the coach, it was a West coast pro-style offense. Joker is looking to continue what Brooks did. His first year, with Mike Hartline and Randall Cobb, Kentucky's offense was very similar to what we saw under the best years of Brooks. The defense struggled, though, so Phillips went out and essentially replaced his defensive coordinator without actually doing so.
So how does Kentucky find itself at this pass, where their offense is among the worst in Division I? It looks, more than anything else, like a complete breakdown of the offensive system. In any offense, the ideal is to force the defense to do things it doesn't want to do. Most college defenses prefer to defend conventional offenses, because that's what most teams run.
Since Brooks came along, Kentucky has run a very conventional offense designed around a mix of the run and pass. This is effective because if you have both, it forces the defense to spread out and make running lanes for the backs, and the threat of a deep pass keeps the safeties further away from the line of scrimmage. Don't look for Phillips to change the offense -- it's what he's comfortable running, and I don't think he has any idea how to design a spread or other unconventional offense, and I'm positive Randy Sanders doesn't.
Because of the lack of a legitimate passing game, Kentucky cannot run the ball. Kentucky's line is constructed as a multipurpose one, designed to block for both the run and the pass, but not great at either. A team that is run-dominant will construct a line suited to that purpose, and a pass-dominant team likewise. Because UK tries to mix the two in nearly equal proportion, you have to execute both in order for the line to be effective.
The biggest problem with Kentucky's passing game right now, after looking long and hard at a couple of game replays, is that Morgan Newton is not an accurate passer. He consistently throws the football in sub-optimal places, making it harder on the receivers. The receivers haven't helped by dropping catchable balls, but Newton is the main problem. He lacks confidence in the pocket, takes too long to decide what to do, and when he does decide, too often either tries to zip the ball into traffic or lob it over the defender, but he doesn't have great touch.
Until Kentucky can find a throwing game to keep defenses honest, the Wildcats will continue to struggle on offense. The receivers are not running bad routes, as far as I can tell, although you never know unless you are on the coaching staff what route they are supposed to be running. Newton also tends to look at only one side of the field. He may or may not be locking on to a specific receiver, but he is certainly blocking out one side or the other.
So what can be done? I'm not a football coach, but here are some things I would try:
- Simplify the playbook and run more hurry-up downs. We don't have to run a whole drive that way, but we need to mix in some hurry-up with our regular offense. The hurry-up seems to calm Newton and force him to quit thinking and just react to what he sees.
- Throw more short passes. Kentucky has been reasonably successful with those, but when we throw the ball downfield a lot, we have difficulty. The reason is Newton gets the ball out faster on short passes, and he throws it hard enough that the defender has trouble breaking on it.
- Utilize the counter play more. The counter was effective against LSU, but UK rarely runs it.
- Run Newton out of the wildcat. There is always a risk of getting your QB hurt doing that, but honestly, that's a risk Kentucky has to take.
What the Kentucky offense lacks is confidence. Calipari has famously said that confidence is "demonstrated performance." That would seem to be an apt description in the case of the UK offense, as they have very little demonstrated success to fall back on. If Morgan Newton can't find a comfort zone, then perhaps a quarterback controversy would help. It seems Phillips thinks so as well.
Until Kentucky figures out how to execute the offense with confidence, they will continue to struggle. Confidence only comes from performance, so that produces the classic chicken-egg problem. How to break out of the cycle of futility? Usually it takes the return of an injured player or some other dramatic shakeup, and perhaps Raymond Sanders will be that spark. Phillips seems unwilling to shake up the lineup much, and the moves he has made haven't been successful.
Hopefully that will change, but we didn't see any signs of that at Tiger Stadium yesterday. But after next weekend, the season should get easier. Perhaps easier competition will allow the offense to develop some confidence. I hope so.
As for South Carolina, I have no real reason to expect Kentucky to break out there. The defense may bottle up the sometimes-futile Gamecock offense, but I have no reason to think that UK can put up more than 14 points on South Carolina, and the Gamecocks can certainly outscore that, even at their near-worst.
So what do you think should be done about the offense? I think the spread option or other major transformation is out, but other than that, what do you think?
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I think your "Run Newton out of the wildcat" has some merit...
We talked after Week 2 (I think) about this topic?? I think our Coaching Staff is trying to force ye old round peg into ye old square hole! Let’s face it, Morgan isn’t a pro-set style of quarterback and the longer it takes our Staff to figure that out the longer we’ll be in offensive purgatory.
You’ve got a very valid point about Morgan not being a great passer. What little of the game I saw yesterday included two passes that weren’t within 5’ of the receiver. One was on a roll-out and the other was a straight 3 step drop… Whatever happened to the passing drills of throwing the ball through the old worn out tire??
I heard Sam got in yesterday, but I don’t think there’s much to that… I think that was more to make a point to Newton then to get him any real time. If you don’t get the reps through the week, you’re gonna look like crap on Saturday! Don’t know what Morgan’s excuse is??
If your wings don't sweep....
maybe
Not sure he’s fast enough to be a Wildcat QB.
Cut Your Losses and Bench Morgan
Morgan is both an ineffective passer and runner. He has slow feet and slow decision making ability. Once he gets started he looks average running the ball, but he’s certainly not what you could build a spread or wildcat offense around.
I suspect it finally dawned on Joker sometime during that game yesterday that Newton is not a quarterback at this level. If I’m him, I put Morgan on the bench and go with the freshman and take my lumps. I mean what have we got to lose. We’ve got three weeks to get ready for Jacksonville State and I haven’t seen anything lately to believe we can beat them or anyone else. Start developing Max Smith because he gives us a better chance than Newton.
And if I’m Mitch, I’m thinking long and hard about who my next head coach is going to be.
I vote for this, benching Morgan that is, but I don't think we're going to see it.
Would invalidate (expose?) the decision to run off Mossakowski as a bust. I don’t know if Smith can do much, if any, better, but at least it would be trying something else.
I agree with benching Newton, and looking for a new coach
Start the freshman, and maybe move Newton to tight end. Can Newton catch the ball? Because he sure can’t throw it. Newton isn’t a good quarterback and nothing this team does will change that.
A good synopsis, Glenn.
Now just to highlight in one place some of your points:
“Don’t look for Phillips to change the offense — it’s what he’s comfortable running”
“don’t think he has any idea how to design a spread or other unconventional offense, and I’m positive Randy Sanders doesn’t”
“Phillips seems unwilling to shake up the lineup much”
Taking the above plus (until yesterday) Jokers’ blind allegiance to Newton only can lead me to accept the fact that Joker is either too set in his ways to change or unwilling to operate outside his comfort zone. Neither choice is a good one.
First, consider the Newton experiment. From the first day of spring practice Joker has persistently given Newton great evaluations and spoken very highly of his improvement and grasp of the offense. What Joker has not done is taken an objective look at how he has performed and whether that performance justifies hooking the team wagon to his ability. It is as if Joker feels constantly praising and supporting Newton will magically transform him into an effective quarterback. Granted the receivers haven’t done him any favors but there are so many deficiencies in Newton’s passing game it amazes me it took until the LSU game for Joker to realize there might be a problem.
So what to do with Newton, our “other” 4 star quarterback recruit? Honestly, there is no easy answer but the status quo ain’t cuttin’ it. I don’t see him capable of running the wildcat, that position requires a player that is shifty and quick, a la Cobb, attributes that don’t come to mind when considering Newton. If he can block maybe the TE position suits him better. Joker needs to cut his losses and move on.
“Move On”. Just how does Joker move on? That’s where the rest of Glenn’s quotes come into focus. Joker is entering an area he has had no experience and is the greatest coaching challenge he is going to face, one that very well could decide his future. Will he continue to ride the Newton train and go down in flames if the offense never finds their footing? Or will he go beyond his comfort level, shake the team and coaching ranks then try to find another offensive answer. Changing an offense after 5 games into a season is a risky proposition at best but so is the direction we’re headed.
Joker is at a crossroads and needs to change and institute change. Spreads are a viable option and if he doesn’t understand the nuances of the offense then find someone that does and get them on the payroll. If he wants to go the direction of the Wildcat, find the player that can run it; don’t limit yourself to quarterbacks. UK is fortunate to have a lot of players on the roster that were recruited as “athletes” because they have multiple talents. Even if it is a freshman, give them a chance. Just some names to consider Cartier Rice, Christian Hudnell, Ashely Lowery, Glenn Faulkner, Bookie Cobbins or Daryl Collins.
In the end, I see Joker staying in his comfort zone and not trying to shake anything up, changing anything in the offensive attack and easily giving us more of the same. We’ll play a bit easier schedule from here to the end which will give the impression of an improvement but we will still have the same offense, same plays, same playcalling and same results. At most, we may get to see a little less of Newton and more of the backups.
Joker, the emperor has no clothes.
Don't take life too seriously; no one gets out alive.
Most people are not willing to come out of their comfort zone.
There’s no doubt about that. Joker apparently believes in his system, and he has good historical reason to do so. He undoubtedly doesn’t know how to run the spread option as a coach, and trying to implement it at this point in the season doesn’t make that much sense.
Plus, burning a bunch of redshirts during this tough stretch is probably not the smartest thing to do. Better to make do with what you have and bring these young guys along the right way. It isn’t as if the schedule doesn’t get any easier all by itself, and these tough games, assuming we get out mostly injury-free, may help in the easier section of our schedule.
The worst that could happen is a bad season. Every team has them, and UK has had plenty. Phillips is probably smart to bet he can turn it around next year.
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At what Joker is pulling down
(and I know its not much by SEC standards) he should be able to get out of his comfort zone, whether that be style of offense or even just the play calling. Even in his preferred offense we’ve seen a little more creativity than what we’re seeing now. Sure, play calling is limited to your level of personnel but even you remarked the counter is under utilized and you sure don’t have to have anyone special to run the counter.
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Unfortunately ...
… I will have no part of economic value arguments like this. Coaching salaries are absurdly high, and using their salary as a bludgeon does not work for me, and never has.
What I will say is that I’m sure Phillips believes in his system. We may not, but he does. In business, it’s usually smart to stick with what you know rather than trying to create something you aren’t an expert at. That’s probably true in coaching as well, for the most part. The pro-style offense is a proven winner, even at Kentucky.
With that said, there are some little things he could do that still fit within his system, like simplifying the playbook and running more “wildcat” style plays, or even some triple option every now and then — I have seen a couple of read-option plays run, so why not expand that package just a bit?
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What you said makes some sense Glenn, but what If Coach Cal had taken the same approach
and not been willing to change?
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Oct 3, 2011 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Basketball is different.
It’s easy to change the offense in basketball. There are only five guys. It’s much, much more difficult in football.
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But are we talking about changing the offense, or changing the approach of the man?
Cal seems willing to try anything that he thinks will give him any slight advantage. Can we say the same thing about Joker?
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Oct 3, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Different strokes for different folks.
The same thing that works for Calipari might not work for Phillips. I don’t really know, Greg, I’m just saying that installing a new offense today is probably not practical. About all the rest, and whatever “change” you are talking about, I have no idea.
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Oh, I have no doubt about the offense not being able to be changed.
I guess what I am looking for is a mindset. Joker seems to be firmly entrenched in his beliefs that do not seem to be working.
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Oct 3, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay, my question would be ...
“What mindset?” That the pro-style offense that he has installed from day one and that has worked well before will work again?
That mindset seems quite sane and reasonable, if unadventurous. I find myself having difficulty criticizing him for that. He seems willing to do other things, but maybe not what we think he should do.
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ok......I guess that's reasonable
I just feel like a coach is a coach. If we credit one for doing something reasonable, as we did with Calipari and his willingness to abandon his much ballyhooed DDMO because his talent didn’t fit it, I do not see why we do not hold Joker to the same standard of evaluating his talent and making the choice to do something different. The problems with Newton and this offense were well visible last year. I realize that maturity (usually) delivers better results, but do we not pay him to assess the talent first and foremost and make decisions accordingly?
This is not as much about blaming him for not changing as it is about blaming him for not seeing his own (or in this case, his team’s) deficiencies and finding out how to correct them.
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Oct 3, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
That "mind set" is no problem IF
you have the players to run the pro-style and/or defenses have not figured out how to stop it. There is the rub. We either don’t have the players or they can’t learn it. (As yet we don’t know if anyone can stop it this year since we can’t get it going.)
Not sure what events you are referring to when you say “He seems willing to do other things…”.
Don't take life too seriously; no one gets out alive.
Well ...
… he’s talking about using Cobbins some, which suggests he’s willing to burn redshirts that he was counting on using. Cobbins also suggests a change in the offensive strategy, probably more wildcat formations.
Look, there is only so much you can try and remain true to your system, and while I’d agree that he should try things more like the hurry-up or some of the other formations and plays that they haven’t run this year but have in the past, such as bubble screens and jet sweeps, there really isn’t all that much.
Possibly the fact that our #1 running back has been hurt, and all the running backs have been limited at different times due to injury has dictated some of that.
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Then we have to wait to see what kind of talent he is bringing in next year.
It looks like a good class, we just have to get more than verbals now.
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Patience with Joker wears thin after the qb change and flip-flop, yesterday
All that did was mess with two young men’s minds. It solved nothing.
Newton gets a no confidence vote and Smith get’s to mull over a bad performance after being thrown into a no-win situation. At the very least, leave Smith in.
Slice it any way you’d like, Joker was grasping at straws. Not good coach, not good at all.
No matter where you're at, there you are
How about changing the Offensive Coordinator?
Isn’t Mike Leach still available?
that's my vote
What about Paul Petrino from Illinois?
I think that's a good answer.
Randy Sanders was a fine QB coach, but I don’t really care for his playcalling.
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Two things to start.
As much as I, like Glenn, believe that Joker has such a firm belief in his system that he is not willing to vary from it, he has to throw it out, at least metaphorically.
The Wildcat idea Glenn mentions may help, but it is my assessment that if you run it, you need to get that freshman QB in there, and keep them both on the field at all times. The old addage that “trickery and deceit will overcome youth and enthusiasm” is being thrown in our faces. The Wildcat is only going to be effective if there is a credible threat in it. So, if you put two arms back there at all times, you give the defense a wrinkle they do not face every day. Plus, the freshman might not feel like he is being thrown to the wolves as he has been the last couple of weeks. If we want that young man to be successful, we have to put him in situations where he can succeed and get some confidence.It might be just enough of a glitch for other teams that the Cats might pick up a couple of off the cuff wins and salvage their season and just maybe a 6-6 record. Admittedly I do not hold out much hope for it, but it stands a better chance than the current debacle that our offense has become.
Also, we are going to have to gamble with the most productive part of our football team. We are going to have to try a few fake punts. I realize Tydlacka is about the only completely solid thing we have going, but we need to surprise a few people in some situations and get some yards that would not normally be a part of the offense.
And honestly, a phone call to Hal Mumme wouldn’t hurt. A few gimmick plays that no one is expecting could also have some impact, But it is going to have to come from a mind that no one knows, because honestly, someone has gotten inside Joker and Sanders heads and has taken up residence there. And not only that, they published their findings for everyone else to see as well.
Glenn has some great points, but as much as it hurts, it may be too late this year to do anything that is going to amount to much.
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Oct 2, 2011 6:55 PM EDT reply actions
Well ...
… I don’t know why you’d need both quarterbacks in there. That doesn’t make sense to me. Just run it like a triple-option, and I know Joker knows how to run that because he ran it with Cobb. Newton is athletic enough to do that.
Fake punts? Well, that’s not a bad thought. Maybe it would work.
I have no idea if Joker communicates with Mumme, but it never hurts to call other coaches. But Phillips has confidence in his system, even if some of us don’t, so I don’t see that changing very much.
In the end, Phillips will probably stick with what he’s doing and try to improve execution, then try to come back and have a better season next year. That’s probably the best option at this point, and the season does get significantly easier after South Carolina.
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I am not totally sure it makes sense to me either, I am grasping at straws here.....
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Oct 3, 2011 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions
not sold on the wildcat
I don’t think the QB draws with Newton have been effective enough to warrant using the Wildcat. Defenses knew what was coming with Cobb and it still worked. Also, Cobb was a better passer than Newton.
I don't think Cobb was a better passer.
Cobb was pretty inaccurate and threw a lot of interceptions, which is one reason we almost never threw out of the Wildcat.
That’s just my thinking.
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Let's see...
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Last year it was the Defensive Coordinator’s fault.
This year it is the Offensive Coordinator’s fault. Or the kids… we can always blame them in a pinch.
I am no math whiz, but even I can spot the actual common denominator to last year’s season-ending debacles and this year’s anemia.
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well.............we are supposed to analyze the situation and make thoughtful suggestions or comments that
might be helpful, or so I am told……lol…..I guess we are all trying to avoid the 5000lb pink elephant in the room……..
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Oct 2, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, fine....
How about a little less straight forward “Shock and Awe” when we are packing neither shock nor awe, and a little more guerrilla warfare.
The same thing everyone else is saying. :-)
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Neither will I, a2
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That is of course my point…. :-)
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"I watch (UK) every night... I am going to support them for the rest of my life. I'm a Wildcat for the rest of my life." -- JWall, 2/8/11
I understand that.
And even agree. But do you not find it even the least bit ironic that our head coach is a former wide receiver himself and offensive coordinator and yet the offense is underperforming in general, and the entire wide receiver corps specifically?
Is there something stopping him from stepping up and grabbing the bull by the horns and personally taking responsibility and charge of this thing? Especially given his job title?
It is true that there is plenty of “blame” to go around in getting the team to its current state, but that isn’t the point. It isn’t about who all got us here, it is about who is now going to step up and lead us out of it. I have heard quite enough of the “we” pronoun in post-game interviews to last a lifetime.
What was that famous Eric Bledsoe quote?
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"I watch (UK) every night... I am going to support them for the rest of my life. I'm a Wildcat for the rest of my life." -- JWall, 2/8/11
Sometimes ...
… your personnel simply don’t perform well. Coaching can only do so much, and dropping footballs is very similar to the shanks in golf. Sometimes they just show up, and all the coaching in the world can’t help them.
What it boils down to is confidence. The shanks are as mental as anything else, and so is dropping footballs.
As far as extraction from the current malaise, I am as clueless as the next guy. Will Morgan Newton suddenly start getting the ball out timely, and on target? Will the receivers find a way to hold on to balls better? To be fair, we dropped fewer passes Saturday than anytime all year, improvement of a sort, I suppose. The line is starting to block the run a bit better, although pass blocking still seems pretty poor to me.
Maybe these incremental things, along with less powerful competition, will turn things around. If not, I guess we’ll just have to suffer a bad season. It won’t be the first.
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by Glenn Logan on Oct 3, 2011 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can agree with this, Glenn.
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And I can also agree that sometimes the personnel just doesn’t make it. That is fine.
My bigger concern is that I am still not for certain who the undisputed, “buck stops here” leader of this program is. Is there one? Is it the president, or the AD? The head coach? One of the coordinators?
This still reminds me of the last couple of years of the Brooks era when we never could pin down who was responsible for the offense or questionable on-field decisions. Was it Brooks or Joker? Someone else? In the end, I think we all just gave up on finding out.
That is at least one consistency of the last 4 years or so. The “buck” gets passed around a lot, but never really stops in any one place.
Probably in the end none of this even matters. UK football is UK football, which is not that great. I think the thing that got to some of us who have been going to games for 30 years or more is that there did appear to be just the tiniest glimmers of hope that things might be taking an actual step forward, and we hate seeing that disappear. Newcomers to the program will get to write their own history. The question is whether or not it will be any different.
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I think it has to be Phillips.
At the end of the day, he’s the one who will get fired if things don’t improve.
To be honest, though, he’s not getting fired this year no matter what happens. He’ll have next year to turn it around.
Head coaches fire their coordinators when things don’t go well on that side of the ball. If I were Phillips, as a former OC I’d just demote Sanders to assistant whatever and take over the playcalling myself, then decide what to do about him after the season.
But Phillips is probably giving Sanders a chance to dig himself out of this hole. I guess. I really don’t know.
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Well ...
… Changing defensive coordinators did work. I’m just saying.
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Well...
…. then one more change at the Coordinator level and a maybe a few more assistants fired and we should be all set.
Sounds great!
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Run the Triple Option?
I disagree with a poster above who said Morgan was athletic enough to run the triple option. That takes a quarterback with quick feet and a quick mind to read and react—that’s not Morgan.
Okay, well, then, we'll agree to disagree.
I think he is plenty athletic enough.
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Newton was successful against UofL running the hurry up...
Why not run it all the time, or least 75% of the time on all drives.
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Glad to have you comment.
I don’t know about 75%, but shouldn’t we run it some? I don’t think we ran more than one or two plays out of it versus LSU and virtually none that I can remember versus Florida, and only in situations where you normally would run a hurry-up.
Why cant we run it for a whole series in a non-two-minute drill situation? Or two series, or even three? Something.
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