Kentucky Football: Former 'Cats Zipp Duncan and Christian Johnson Misfire
Maybe I'm old fashioned -- OK, everyone who knows me can now quit laughing -- but I believe dirty laundry, family disharmony, family feuds, family discontent, etc ... all of these things should be kept tightly within the (sometimes) uncomfortable confines of the family unit. The family works it out, whatever the problem might be, but what a family doesn't do is announce to the entire world the problems that beset the family, and point fingers at other family members.
The "Cardinal Rule of Family," though, is to never, ever stab a family member in the back. Regardless of how egregiously one has been treated, a true big blue family member should never stick-it to a blue-blood-bleeding brother (say that fast three times).
Unless one's name is Zipp Duncan or Christian Johnson.
Duncan, an outstanding Wildcat offensive lineman ('05, '07-'09) from Elizabethtown High School, and Johnson, a mostly outstanding o-lineman ('05-'07, '09) during his time at UK, have recently tweeted their displeasure with the way the Kentucky football season is unfolding. Actually, if "voicing their displeasure" was all the duo had done, I would have no qualms, but instead of offering encouragement or perhaps a "wow, these guys are really struggling," both players got up-close-and-personal in Twitter attacks aimed at current team members, as well as coach Joker Phillips.
Here is a sampling of the classless, tasteless, bush league tweets from Duncan and Johnson:
Zipp Duncan -- "Max Smith w/ STEVIE WONDER vision"
That's just indefensible. To single out a true freshman back-up quarterback in that way is the act of a child. An angry, frustrated child.
Zipp Duncan -- "I hope our DB's know how to stop, drop and roll ... cause they are getting burnt"
While I do give Duncan an "A" for creativity, he once again gets personal with a player, this time a group of players; to again call-out a teammate in such a fashion is simply inexcusable.
Christian Johnson -- "yeah sis ... it was already rebuilt ... that's what (rich) brooks did ... joker tried to fix something that wasn't broke ..."
After asking myself, "is he for real?" I would then ask Mr. Johnson, "so you think going 14-26 in the SEC, as UK did during your time on campus, exemplifies a 'rebuilt program?'" After sitting through his stutters and stammers for a few minutes, I would then offer this follow-up, "Christian, how about losing to a bad Indiana team 38-14, or losing 59-28 to Louisville, or 49-0 to LSU, or maybe losing twice to Florida, one a 63-5 debacle, the other a 41-7 shredding ... do those types of losses, losses which occurred during your stay in Lexington, scream rebuilt program to you?'"
In reality, Johnson's tweet is typical disenchanted-fan hyperbole, but he should know better than to espouse something so unintentionally comical, and patently untrue, even if his reason for his disenchantment is righteous. Simply put, Johnson needs to stick to that which he knows ... pancaking d-linemen.
Let me be clear, I have no problem with any ex-player voicing their opinion, whether it be pro-UK or otherwise, but for Duncan to get so incredibly personal, and Johnson to make such an utterly ridiculous public statement in an attempt to pile-on Joker Phillips, is unacceptable behavior for someone who was a part of the Kentucky football program for five years (as both were), five months or five minutes.
Where I come from, teammates don't bad-mouth or attempt to embarrass each other. And although Duncan and Johnson are no longer on the team, they are still very much part of a team. A team and coach, by the way, being mortared from every angle, by nearly every Wildcat football fan on God's good green Earth. From talk radio, to blogs, to TV, negativity is everywhere, so much so, that negativity has become ubiquitous, one can't escape it, which I understand is to be expected when the team has performed so poorly ... but why pile-on? Why, instead of possibly helping the matter, did Duncan and Johnson choose to degrade? Maybe they don't like Joker, or don't like Newton, or don't like Max Smith, or don't like Anthony Mosley or Martavius Neloms (two of UK's DB's), or maybe they miss the spotlight, whatever the reason, it's not a good enough reason to forgo one's loyalty to one's school and teammates.
Considering both of these players were terrific linemen, perhaps a more constructive use of their time might be to offer a few suggestions to their teammates, most of which both Duncan and Johnson played with, instead of throwing guys under the bus. Perhaps some encouragement, either privately or publicly, would be a more appropriate course of action. It's much better than showing one's backside for all the world to see.
While I feel contempt for the actions of the two players, I do understand and empathize with their frustration. I understand where the tweets came from ... they're pulling their hair out, not believing what they're seeing on the field ... just like the rest of us ... that I understand. I understand both of these young men. Frustration boils over, and they begin to lash out, but instead of thinking of the harm they might be doing, they instinctively post their thoughts on Twitter, something I'm sure they've done hundreds of times. It's almost become reflexive for some people ... see something, do something, feel something ... tweet it.
I choose, though, to believe both players, Duncan and Johnson, tweeted their frustration because of their love and appreciation for the football program. The tweets came from a good place -- their concern for the football program -- but the execution of the frustration was all wrong.
Do they deserve execution at sun rise? Certainly not, but perhaps some of their UK football brethren might privately share with Duncan and Johnson the need to keep a positive, one team-one family state-of-mind, even through this terribly disappointing time.
Thanks for reading and Go 'Cats!
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Well Said, Ken
I was livid when I heard about this yesterday. Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, but as former Cats these boys have a responsibility to respect the current players wearing those 8 sacred letters across their jerseys enough to not bad-mouth them in the personal responsibility vacuum of Twitter. Have some decency to say it to the family face to face, in public put on a united front.
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Some people do not realize the new unwritten rule about social media
It has evolved from “A wise man thinks before he speaks”.
It now reads “A wise man thinks twice before he posts, thrice is even better”.
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This needed to be said.
Well done.
I don’t begrudge anyone their opinion. As everybody knows, though, I do begrudge them bad taste and bad manners.
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Eh, I don't really have a problem with it.
These remarks were no more personal than the average criticism, and as for Joker, he’s a big boy and he can take it. Positivity is one way to motivate a person, but sometimes they just need to be called out. It’s a tough world out there.
by NYCCats on Oct 12, 2011 8:21 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I can see why this makes people upset
But I disagree with that “teammates once, teammates forever” angle. Players change teams all the time, and I don’t think they owe any loyalty to teams that they are no longer a part of. These guys were disgusted by what they saw in the game, and they said what they felt and thought. I don’t think it’s a big deal.
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by Anything but Gatorade on Oct 12, 2011 9:05 AM EDT reply actions
Tough!!
How is calling anyone out any different than a commentator making remark about someone on the field “struggling”? Everyone knows what that means, that they are playing poorly, making bad decisions and so forth, the same thing if you (as a former teammate) trash talk someone on twitter for getting burnt. These guys are football players in college for goodness sake, they are grown boys, if they can’t hack it and take some lumps, they can take their ball and go home. Sometimes you need to be called on things, it makes you better!! Stop babying them sometime!!
I have gone back and forth trying to decide whether to respond and how to respond. I agree that calling out individual players crossed the line.
However, calling out coaches is different . . . they are adults, and paid, and know that heat and criticism is part of the game.
In regard to the comments, can anyone reasonably dispute that the football team is regressing. I do not believe so. And, to reference what Brooks built is a correct statement. Brooks walked into a horrible situation with probation, loss of scholarships and a dearth of talent. Joker has not. Although we lost a lot at the skill positions, we are generally sound elsewhere and Joker’s teams are not performing as well as Brooks’ worst teams.
You then write a paragraph which cherry-picks particular stats/records from the Brooks era to suggest that it was not an upgrade nor any better than what Joker has done. You are normally even-keeled and even-handed, so I was surprised by this. It is much easier to acknowledge that Joker and this team are really struggling and that Joker and his staff appear to have no answers and that if this season continues on the same trajectory, it can be considered nothing but an utter failure.
If you disagree with the the tweets, fine. But you cannot make your argument by failing to acknowledge the good job Brooks did and refusing to see that Joker’s performance so far is much worse.
Cherry-picking Brooks
I am a Rich Brooks fan, always have been, always will be. And I appreciate the great job he did at UK. The angle I took with Johnson’s comments was to show that, hey, the program was not “rebuilt” as he suggests, and I used a series of bad losses in an attempt to prove that point. My intent was not to disparage the job Brooks did, but rather to point out there is/was still work to do to bring UK up to an acceptable standard.
Also, I do make references throughout the article which indicate quite clearly that what is going on now within the program is not good, not good at all. There are obviously many, many issues surrounding this team, and they are not performing anywhere near the level they should be.
The whole tenor of the article – Why pile-on a team so clearly struggling, especially as an ex-player, whose time at UK was also filled with difficult times and losses. Simply put, these tweets are the pot calling the kettle black.
But, dpvatty,
I definitely should have included a sentence or two stating that I think Brooks did a tremendous job at UK, so as to not give the impression that I feel otherwise.
I’ve written several thousand words over a couple-year period praising Brooks, but sometimes I forget not everyone has read all that I’ve written.
If you are seeking the truth ask Christian!!!!
First of all I appreciate that comments from people that see through mask this article is putting up. In no way, shape or form am I back stabbing my teammates or being disloyal. I bleed blue through and through. My comment was directed towards Joker Phillips… not towards the players. My loyalty as far as coaching goes in 100% for Richard Brooks. My comment was very true. I came to UK in 2005 we only won 3 games. Every single season after that was a winning season for me up until my last game played January of 2010. We were the first team to make it to four straigh bowls… How in Gods name could you say coach brooks didnt rebuild this team?? Look at the records prior to when he first came to UK. My tweet was the truth…But for the sake of Ken writing a provocative article I have become disloyal and a backstabber? I have no ill intent in my tweets. Its my twitter account… which gives me the freedom to tweet what ever I want. The truth is the truth cut and dry…said by me or joe blow under the bridge. Last but not least I played for kentucky…for 5 yrs…shed blood, sweat and tears…I know what goes on in the lockeroom, I know how my ex teammates are feeling right now. THis alone gives me the right to make my comments more then anyone because I have been through the fire, so Ken please stop stirring the pot!
If anyone has any other questions feel free to ask me.
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by Christian Vocca Ron Johnson on Oct 13, 2011 5:53 PM EDT reply actions
Thanks for the comment, Christian.
Ken can speak for himself. I will simply note that despite your status as a former player, you aren’t privy to the truth. When you claim that “joker tried to fix something that wasn’t broke,” that isn’t the truth, it is an opinion, to which you are of course entitled.
When you express a strong opinion, no matter how convinced you are of its rightness, it can have consequences. In this case, the consequence is criticism from those who think it was a cheap shot at Joker Phillips and the program. What I mean by that is because of your status as a former player, your opinion carries more weight than that of others, and that requires a well-meaning person like you to exercise restraint in how you express it, or face a reaction like Ken’s article above.
Twitter is a very poor forum for expressing opinions like that, because you can’t really explain them and they are very easy to take out of context, which is possibly what happened in this case. If you had no ill intent, it didn’t come through, and that’s primarily because of the medium you chose.
Anytime you, or any other player, would like to fully express an opinion in a manner that allows you to make sure everyone understands your point, you have but to ask me or Ken, and we will be happy to allow you to do it here, or Ken may even provide a slot on his radio show to let you talk about it live on the air. It’s his show, so you’ll have to ask him, but I feel confident he would be receptive to the idea.
Thanks again for commenting, Christian. We are a big fan of yours here at A Sea of Blue despite this small controversy, wish you all the best, and welcome you here anytime.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Glenn Logan on Oct 14, 2011 6:14 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Christian Johnson
Sorry you all the last part of my message didnt come out right
Close2mydreams is my twitter
Love_my_life73@yahoo.com
PLease direct any question to either of the two, I have no problem expressing my opinion.
by Christian Vocca Ron Johnson on Oct 13, 2011 5:59 PM EDT reply actions
I hear you Ken
Ken, I understand your thoughts and the approach you took with the article.
Keep up the good work.
You know, If either of these guys had been behind a desk on a soundstage at
ESPN, we would be ignoring this. Is it right to question or even ridicule a group to which you formerly, and still, by proxy belong to?
I think we may have made more out of the issue than there actually is, and by doing so, have just drug it out even further.
I am now and shall forever be the Cat in The Hat, The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!!!
by Greg Alan Edwards on Oct 14, 2011 8:58 AM EDT reply actions
Point taken
I agree twitter has it draw backs, and sure its a very poor forum to use…but in saying that, dont use a persons tweets and draw a huge conclusion from them. I appreciate the feedback. I just want to make sure its understood that I still bleed blue and my support is given to all of the payers. If i see something that bothers me about the game I will tweet about it.
Thanks again
CJ
by Christian Vocca Ron Johnson on Oct 14, 2011 1:03 PM EDT reply actions
Christian
Let me reiterate what Glenn posted above: You are more than welcome to offer a full response to this article, either here at A Sea of Blue, or on a UK radio show I co-host from Bowling Green. Zipp will be with us this Wednesday.
Also, although I disagree with what you wrote, the manner in which you have responded to my criticism of your tweet has been wholly professional and without malice.
My intent was not to paint you as a traitor, on that point let me be clear. I completely understand the frustration and disappointment you feel with this year’s team, emotions you wouldn’t feel if you didn’t care.
by Ken Howlett on Oct 15, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions











