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Some Questions And Answers With Beyond The Arc

Mike Miller of NBC's Beyond The Arc thoughtfully asked me to be a part of his Blogger Spotlight series.  He asked a good number of questions, and in typical style I answered rather thoroughly, so grab yourself a cup of coffee before trying to take it all in.

Note that there was a very slight format error early this morning, but just remember that his questions are in bold and my answers are not.

If you are not following Mike on Twitter, you should, at @MikeMillerNBC.

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Very well done

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Jan 28, 2011 8:52 AM EST reply actions  

Simply outstanding stuff, Glenn

If I could, I would continuously press the rec’d button, over and over again.

by Ken Howlett on Jan 29, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh.

Thanks, Ken. :-)

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by Glenn Logan on Jan 29, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I concur...

very well done. Your answer to the “ideal player” question was exquisite.

by atom on Jan 28, 2011 11:16 AM EST reply actions  

Great job

And I agree about this years team. I think they could make the FF if they get on a roll shooting from the perimeter and play great defense. But like you said it depends on the draw. Running into a real physical team in the first couple of rounds could mean an early exit.

by maysvilleblue on Jan 28, 2011 11:28 AM EST reply actions  

I posted this comment under the Forde article

Your answer describing the typical UK fan was right on. I confess I was mostly interested in your views concerning the rural fan base. IMO these folks were the back-bone of the base for decades till many migrated into urban areas. They still comprise at least half our base currently and I would put the real number of rural basketball supporters in the UK camp at closer to 98-99% level.

Job well done Glenn and you are a credit to the BBN – seriously from all the great work you and your associates do for this site…!

A man is nothing more than a summation of his scars!

by KansasUKCat on Jan 28, 2011 12:04 PM EST reply actions  

I "can't imagine life without it" either

Great reading Glenn!

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Jan 28, 2011 12:08 PM EST reply actions  

Well Done Indeed

For those with the interest and time the responses provided as good a description possible of the phenomenon known as UK BB. My favorite team is the 1958 NCAA champion Fiddlin’ Five — most likely because I was a student at the time and passionately, intimately involved.

"I bring reason to your ears, and, in language as plain as ABC, hold up truth to your eyes." Thomas Paine, December 23, 1776

by Wild Weasel on Jan 28, 2011 12:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Great job, Glenn.

It was a very thorough and compelling look at the Wildcats and the BBN. I am in awe! :-)

by sprink on Jan 28, 2011 12:40 PM EST reply actions  

Thank you all very much.

And thank you for taking the time out of your day to read all that. :-)

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by Glenn Logan on Jan 28, 2011 1:15 PM EST reply actions  

UK is the commonwealth's #1 sports team, always has been, always will be.

Pretenders to the throne come and go. UK prevails thru thick and thin. I first became a UK fan in 1944 when Adolph took the only great athlete from my tiny high school of Trimble County at Bedford, KY to play four years on his great basketball teams of 1944-1948 (Jack Tingle). As a UK band member I always got in free to Alumni Gym games and gave my tickets to kin so they could drive in from rural areas to enjoy same. They didn’t much care for football and Bear Bryant as most high schools did not play football, but everyone played basketball.

During my 24 years in USAF I followed UK sports like it was a life-and-death matter. Thanks to WHAS radio that was not difficult to do. Although I missed many games in the Memorial Coliseum era, I made up for it in the new Rupp Arena. Since UK games are always on television, I favor the better viewsafforded there instead of Rupp’s rafters.

Low points have been the Eddie (cell-your) Sutton episode, Billie G and late Tubby years. I would have taken Pitino as coach before Cal which would have been a colossal mistake after the Sypher charges. I still think Rick is a better on-court coach, but am perfectly happy with Cal and what he has accomplished so far in nearly two seasons. My jury is still out regarding Joker but I am not optimistic like I am with Cal. It the Lady Cats keep improving, I may yet become one of their fans also.

Without Enes I don’t think the Cats will go beyond the Sweet Sixteen this year. This team puzzles me in more ways than one. One disagreement I have with Cal is over his priorities in running the program: his #1 task should be to field the best basketball team he can assemble within the NCAA guidelines and put the UK program ahead of preparing athletes for professional careers. Careers should not be more important than the program IMO. I think their careers would not be jeopardized too much if they had to stick around for another year or two, and recruits would still be willing to sign up.

I am probably overly optimistic regarding Cats basketball, and maybe just as pessimistic regarding Cats football. One thing I do know for sure……SEA OF BLUE IS #1 WITH ME!

by Bob Stewart on Jan 28, 2011 2:33 PM EST reply actions  

You Missed A Low Point (Maybe The Biggest One Of All)

Point shaving and NCAA violations in early 1950’s resulting in 1 Year Death Penalty for UK basketball in 1953.

Pitino is 236-89 (72.6%) in 10 years since he returned to college from NBA.

Calipari is 302-76 (79.9%) in 11 years since he returned to college from NBA.

Each has 1 FF and 0 NC in that timeframe.

I’ll never understand the continuing infatuation with Pitino.

His best days are WAY behind him.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 28, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't understand?

I won’t say I am infatuated with him but I will be always infatuated with his success while at UK. While his best days may be behind him,his best years were spent here.

by maysvilleblue on Jan 29, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I Don't

Pitino was an excellent coach in the mid 1990’s.

Period. Long since past those days.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 29, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

You can't understand...

3 final fours,1 national title,1 national runner-up and 219-50 overall in 8 seasons???

by maysvilleblue on Jan 30, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Bob

I know of Jack Tingle. I believe he made all-SEC several years at UK. If not mistaken, he died at a young age of cancer. I’m not sure if Jack was the best athlete from Trimble, but he received the best opportunity. Some say that B.G. Neal was a better player. Neal went into the Navy and died during WWII.

by jdogblue on Jan 28, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Bob welcome to the SOB - good to have you

A man is nothing more than a summation of his scars!

by KansasUKCat on Jan 29, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

How does
his #1 task should be to field the best basketball team he can assemble within the NCAA guidelines and put the UK program ahead of preparing athletes for professional careers.

fit with calling the late Tubby years “low points”? That is what Tubby did but it was not enough for UK fans. It turns out that Cal can field the best players and that is what we demand. Since the NCAA claims to be promoting the student athlete and the purpose of education is pursuit of a career, how can the program be more important than the students in it? Cal is getting students who happen to want a career in the NBA and the timing of leaving for that opportunity depends on many factors. We can’t have our cake and eat it too. Either we will win it all with great young players who will leave when their best opportunity knocks, or we will go back to doing the best we can with less talented players. 30+ wins and the chance to win it all is better than 20 & 12 and hoping we go to the NCAA tournament.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on Jan 28, 2011 2:55 PM EST reply actions  

44-25 (Last 2 Years)

219-58 (first 8 years).

The last 2 were definitely HIS low points.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 28, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Forty, to be fair

he didn’t get the moniker “Ten Loss Tubby” with 10+ losses in only two years.

by jdogblue on Jan 28, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

219-58 First 8 Years

My math says that’s 27 W and 7 L averages (not 10 L).

The 2000-01-02 teams may have averaged 10 L but won 2 SEC and 1 SECT titles plus made 2 Sweet 16. Not low points.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 29, 2011 8:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Indeed I Did

I don’t agree with it.

The TLT moniker was (and is) undeserved.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 29, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Not really.

He had seasons with 10+ losses. That was unacceptable to most UK fans and always will be no matter who is the coach.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on Jan 29, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

219-58 Over 8 Seasons

Pitino was 219-50 over 8 years.

I don’t see much difference in those W-L records.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 29, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Then you are looking at it

through Tubby tinted glasses. Pitino inherited a mess and had to build a program and he left it at its peak. Tubby was unable to maintain the program at the level Pitino built. Reasonable people (that lets out a lot of UK fans) would realize that Pitino’s last two years and Tubby’s first could not continue indefinitely but it made slipping back into 10 loss seasons harder to accept.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on Jan 29, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope

Non-UK people see the comparison easily.

The reaction from some UK fans (like yourself) perpetuates the myth.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 29, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

The only thing perpetual

around here is your constant denial that Tubby failed to maintain UK’s status in college basketball.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on Jan 30, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Smith coached UK for 10 seasons

In half of those, his teams had 10 or more losses. In a sixth season, his team lost nine games. Those are the facts.

by jdogblue on Jan 29, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Jim Calhoun = HOF-er

His teams have 10+ L in half the seasons he has coached (almost 40 years).

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 29, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

To paraphrase Tina Turner

“Whats UCONN got to do with it?”

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on Jan 29, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Very Simple

Many HOF coaches averaged 10 L or close to it in their careers.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jan 29, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Numbers

1 title,1 FF, in hist first year. Zero after. That’s all the proof I need that the program slipped during Tubby’s tenor. End of story.

by maysvilleblue on Jan 30, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

A side note

It is 46degrees in Marshall County and will be 50 and 51 Saturday and Sunday. Did I leave January some where?

Happy Days are here again! Wildcat's have #1 recruiting class again!

by oldcat73 on Jan 28, 2011 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

I hope so.

I hope it’s gone forever. But alas …

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by Glenn Logan on Jan 28, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Cal's #1 Priority Should Be......UK basketball program!

Cal’s #1 priority seems to be to get his highly recruited freshmen signed up for big NBA contracts regardless of whether they are ready or not………….and to heck with making the UK program talented to make the Final Four. I say this because……….not a single UK freshman drafted in the first-round was really “ready.” They needed much more training as evidenced by their performance so far this NBA season. Only Pat Patterson, a junior grad, seemed to be qualified. So the four freshmen are not qualified, are left floundering around, probably doomed for sub-par NBA careers. BUT……under Cal’s guidance, he shooed them to sign big bonuses. If Cal wants to make his players suitable for pro careers, he must first prepare them to their best abilities. If this requires a player to stick around for several years, then so be it. That would enhance the UK BB program as well as best prepping players for BB careers. I think Cousins and maybe Patterson would like to have stayed another year. Merely getting big contracts for players regardless of their pro qualifications should not be his goal. He was hired by UK to run the program and not to obtain huge contracts. He might lose a recruit or two, but mostly he could expect top recruits to still choose UK for their college experience.

by Bob Stewart on Jan 28, 2011 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

Floundering Around?

John Wall is starting PG in NBA averaging more than 15 ppg and nearly 10 assists while playing 37 minutes.

Demarcus Cousins is starting 5 in NBA averaging double digits in points and rebounds.

Eric Bledsoe started a number of games as a NBA PG and performed very well, plus he’s still contributing valuable minutes.

If that’s “floundering around” we should all should be so fortunate.

Did I mention that they are earning 6 & 7 figure compensation?

IMO Calipari has his priorities aligned and UK BB will prosper and flourish in the long run.

"I bring reason to your ears, and, in language as plain as ABC, hold up truth to your eyes." Thomas Paine, December 23, 1776

by Wild Weasel on Jan 28, 2011 4:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Bob Stewart...

I don’t agree with much you’ve said here.

First, who decides, “whether they are ready or not?” That would seem to be the purview of the NBA – they conduct the draft and pay the money – they and the PLAYERS themselves get to decide – not us. Why do you want them to stick around – because they are extremely talented – exactly the same reason they are desired by the NBA.

“Not a single UK freshman drafted in the first-round was really "ready." They needed much more training as evidenced by their performance so far this NBA season. Only Pat Patterson, a junior grad, seemed to be qualified.”

You might be able to make an argument that the drafted freshmen could have improved if they had stayed in school but to make a blanket statement that they weren’t “ready” is patently inaccurate. Wall, Cousins and Bledsoe have each STARTED on their respective NBA teams. Orton hasn’t done much but the Magic attributes that to continued physical problems associated with the knee injury he suffered in high school and he has has had season ending surgery. Once he’s healthy, we’ll see.

Patterson, the upper classman and only player you think to be “ready” was immediately relegated to the NBA Developmental League Rio Grande Valley Vipers by the Rockets because he was “Unready” to make the team’s roster. Patrick has been brought back to the Rocket’s bench to cover for injured players but hasn’t done anything of note since his NBA regular season debut in mid-December.

by TeamWeaver on Jan 28, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

2Pat Moves Up For Rockets

Patrick Patterson getting more minutes thanks to defense:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/bk/bkn/7401878.html

"I bring reason to your ears, and, in language as plain as ABC, hold up truth to your eyes." Thomas Paine, December 23, 1776

by Wild Weasel on Jan 28, 2011 5:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Good to hear.

I love me some Patrick Patterson.

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by Glenn Logan on Jan 28, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Weasel

That could have been Cal talking instead of Adelman: defense, defense, defense, crash the boards.

"SPORTS"--Not interested----"CATS"--Pull up a chair,I've got all night.

by kydamcat on Jan 28, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Pat did have one double double

of 15 and 10 earlier in the season. He was getting more minutes then while Hayes was injured.

by jdogblue on Jan 28, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

WW, jdogblue...

I’m sorry guys, my point wasn’t intended to denigrate Patrick only that 3 of the freshmen were apparent more ready than he was.

by TeamWeaver on Jan 28, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

WW, jdogblue...

I’m sorry, my point wasn’t intended to denigrate Patrick only that 3 of the freshmen were apparent more ready than he was.

by TeamWeaver on Jan 28, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Nba

Doesn’t seem Iike you watch much NBA. Outside of Blake griffin the vast vast majority of players entering the NBA require a lot of on the job learning. The NBA isn’t a league anyone is ready for completely. Except for Daniel Orton the freshman cats have put together a good first year. Bledsoe has been playing well backing up baron davis, Demarcus after a shakey start has put together a solid run, and John wall when not injured has been playing well. I think it’s safe to say all could have benefited from another year in college but they were clearly ready to play or they wouldn’t be, with the exception of orton. tayshaun prince was a four year guy and it took him a season as well before getting serious playing time for the pistons. point being the NBA s an adjustment for everyone.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Jan 28, 2011 5:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Agree

A huge adjustment for most players to just have adequate playing time.

Example: How much press have you read concerning Tyler Hansbrough with the God awful Pacers or Evan Turner with the 76ers, both who were Naismith Players of the year.

A man is nothing more than a summation of his scars!

by KansasUKCat on Jan 29, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Boys

Bob’s clear allegiances are with UK, not the NBA. I think his point is made more with his heart than with his head. Let’s allow him that.

by jdogblue on Jan 28, 2011 6:19 PM EST reply actions  

I think that's right.

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by Glenn Logan on Jan 28, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

That may be true

just don’t be surprised when speaking from the heart results in heads talking back.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on Jan 28, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Great work!

I love the fact that instead of tiny “sound bite” clips, you were actually given the chance to make reasoned, detailed answers (and the answers you gave were excellent). It’s nice to see the reasonable, rational side of fan-dom in general and UK specifically. Too often we just get the loud, obnoxious idiot side in the media.

by wildcatfaninexile on Jan 30, 2011 10:26 AM EST reply actions  

Heh.

Yeah, I think that’s right. Mike has always been a good friend of the blog, and I really appreciated the opportunity.

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by Glenn Logan on Jan 30, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

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