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The Big Blue Daily Mail -- Celebration Edition

This foot's for you, haters.

Everyone outside of the Big Blue Nation are telling me that I shouldn't celebrate over the Eric Bledsoe matter.  I say they can go get a hammer, take their sanctimony, and pound it back into their nether regions from whence it came.

From the predictable Louisville Cardinal stupidity, to Gary Parrish and Kevin Scarbinsky, we are being told not to rejoice that our player was not declared retroactively ineligible and Kentucky's 2009-10 season vacated by the NCAA.  We should be ashamed, they seem to be saying, that circumstances absolutely nobody at Kentucky could have known about, and even a third-party law firm could not support with evidence, did not wind up a problem for UK.  Somehow, despite the fact UK had absolutely no culpability and the fact that both UK and the NCAA did in-depth reviews of Bledsoe's academics, that UK is still guilty of -- well, of what, nobody seems to say.

Why should we not celebrate having a young man who, as far as anyone knows, did work hard to get himself eligible, stayed eligible throughout the season, and became a success story by going from abject poverty to a millionaire?  Why should UK not celebrate the fact that 2009-10 will not have an asterisk beside it despite the unethical leak of Bledsoe's transcripts to third parties that did not have permission to see them, and an utterly baseless imputation by Pete Thamel of the New York Times of illegal extra benefits?  Why should Kentucky fans not celebrate having all this nonsense off their plate?

Ladies and gentlemen of the Big Blue Nation, we should not be allowing others to define this debate for us, and tell us how we should perceive ourselves or the team.  Every one of these worthies was practically cheering for the NCAA to invalidate Kentucky's season, whether or not there was actual evidence of wrongdoing.  For them, the accusation was all that was necessary.

Whether the teacher in question violated ethical rules or not, most of these same people would or have told you that the principle of strict liability applied by the NCAA in the Rose matter is a questionable thing, yet here they are telling us, "Oh, don't cheer UK, you guys were just lucky and arguably should have lost your season."  Anybody see a problem with ... umm ... consistency here?

Star-divide

The bottom line is, Kentucky's determination of eligibility for Bledsoe was correct and proper in every way.  As to the Alabama school system, if they have issues they need to correct them.  But since no hard evidence of wrongdoing was found, it is certainly right and proper for no action to be taken by any party to the matter, at least as pertains to Bledsoe's eligibility.

I'm celebrating.  If you don't feel like it, that's fine, but don't tell me I have to accept how our opponents frame this matter.  Now, for the news:

  • Wayne Turner joins Calipari’s staff | Vaught's Views

    This kind of got overlooked with the Bledsoe report on Friday and the big game on Saturday, but I want to welcome Wayne Turner back to Kentucky.

  • Kentucky Football: After Humiliation by Florida Gators | Saturday Down South

    And were we wrong. Florida didn’t struggle. Like at all. I mean, either a) they absolutely turned it on this week and tee totally got things figured out, or b) Kentucky is a really bad football team right now. Hell, Miami (OHIO), Tennessee, and Southern Florida played that team much closer than we did. We came into that game thinking we had the cards to maybe win the game. At least we won’t have any trouble staying humble this week.

    Yeah, staying humble should be a breeze after that game.

  • Rush The Court -- The Bledsoe Ordeal Is Over

    That’s worth celebrating, but still — and we’re usually reluctant to hand out such advice — we’d advise our readers in the BBN to feel more relief than victory right now. Nobody won anything, here. If you’re a Kentucky fan, it’s just that you didn’t lose.

    More correctly, it had nothing to do with win or lose.  Kentucky's evaluation of Bledsoe's unearthed no obvious improprieties, and that evaluation was vindicated by the fact that the law firm couldn't find any, either.

  • Upon Further Review: Florida - Kentucky Sports Network

    Hartline didn’t have as bad of a game as everyone is making out. While he did throw two interceptions, he also piled up 242 yards against the best secondary in college football. This group of defensive backs will make far better quarterbacks look far worse during the course of the season, and there are at least six guys in their secondary that will be playing on Sundays at some point. Hartline wasn’t helped by bad play calling, poor protection, and dropped passes. Everyone remembers the outburst Mike had as a sophomore where he blamed getting benched on his teammates. He could have said the same thing Saturday night and he would have been right. No doubt he made some mistakes, but there is plenty of blame to go around.

    I think this is right.  Hartline did not play bad at all.  He made one really stupid throw and another that was a combination of a bad call and a great defensive play.

    But overall, against this secondary, I have little to complain about as far as Hartline is concerned.

  • Reality check for University of Kentucky football | KentuckySports.com

    Phillips said his team could have competed with Florida had it not been for penalties. The Cats were whistled for false starts, substitution penalties and personal fouls.

    Sorry, Joker, I'm not buying what you're selling here.  Penalties were a problem, but even if UK had zero, it would not have mattered much.

  • Cats good, just not good enough for Gators | KentuckySports.com

    That Kentucky couldn't beat the Gators, failed by 34 points, is not proof the Cats aren't good. Just not good enough. They weren't good enough Saturday night. Kentucky football has closed a lot of gaps the past five years. This isn't one of them. Florida is just better. Much better.

    Sadly, I think this is exactly right.

  • Opening ceremonies dazzle with Kentucky people, talent - WEG: The Latest - Kentucky.com

    From a bluegrass jam during the Olympics-esque parade of nations to featured roles for numerous Lexington-based artists to appearances by basketball coach John Calipari and the University of Kentucky cheerleaders, the ceremonies had a distinctly Kentucky feel.

    Cool.

  • SEC: Bama-Florida a game that truly matters John Clay’s Sidelines

    John Clay's SEC links.

  • Twitter / Tom Leach: Chip Cosby, Jeff Van Note, ...
    Chip Cosby, Jeff Van Note, Matt Jones on the radio show today

  • Tackling 101 in store for Kentucky's defense | courier-journal.com | The Courier-Journal

    "They did a lot of shallow stuff (in the passing game), but we practiced that," linebacker Danny Trevathan said. "It wasn't nothing they did that we didn't see. If there was, we corrected it at halftime."

    Heh.  Well, whatever the halftime corrections were, they didn't work.  I'm just sayin'.

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I've said it before Tru..err..Glenn, and I'll say it again

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Sep 27, 2010 8:35 AM EDT reply actions  

You're right.

And to them, I say, “Up YOURS!!!!” :-)

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 27, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was that your best Randy Quaid voice there Glenn??....lol

I Shall Always Be The Cat......In The Hat!!! The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!

by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 27, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was!

Nice catch!

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 28, 2010 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sore losers.

They lost. And still they bitch.

They damn us if we do, damn us if we don’t.

But I think the latter doesn’t taste so good to them. And that makes me happy.

by Wheatgerm on Sep 28, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guys, I am only going to say this.

UK was right to do what they did based upon what information they had at the time. There is no way that UK could have known the information that came out in that investigation for one reason only.

There is no action of that nature required to bring in a student to college. If I had been Eric Bledsoe and presented my transcripts to UK to enroll for the fall semester and was not a basketball player, my transcripts would never have even been questioned. If I was coming in on let’s say a music scholarship, there would have been no problems.

Now for reality.

The procedures have to be changed for bringing in any recruit to the UK athletics programs, AND to the NCAA athletics programs in general. Not because of the Bledsoe situation, which ended up being much ado about nothing, but what if those grades had been John Wall’s? How much incentive could there have been for someone to make changes to his grades knowing that a possible six figure payoff was waiting in the wings? Am I saying that is going to happen? No. But it could. And not just here at UK. The “Haters” , as Coop so eloquently put it, aside, the NCAA has to not only review their guidelines, they need to get some procedures in place to allow for some control and assistance for these kids in getting qualified.

Give these kids NCAA approved testing centers with NCAA appproved personnel in them. Establish qualification personnel in each school that do nothing but meticulously investigate kids who are coming in on these scholarships. We should be able to take these kids at their word, but we cannot, not any longer. And hoping that every kid is a Brandon Knight is a joke too. We cannot just recruit Rhodes Scholars. But if we get involved with them early, say as juniors, with the NCAA’s help and guidance, do things the right way, and get them where they should be, we can eliminate a lot of this. Are there always going to be people screaming bloody murder when they get their chance? Sure. But that is life.

Sandy Bell and Co. must have really done their homework to know this could go this far and turn out this way. Or they , just as some have said, got really lucky this time. I don’t fault the teacher or the school, because they are there to teach, and to get kids to learn. And I don’t care how they do that, but if the NCAA wants pristine records and athletes, then they are going to have to give the schools enough room to get those kids that way. Let them help the kids do it right, and not have to rely on the teacher’s good will to make the requirements.

Some will say this is overkill, and that’s OK, I understand the wanting to keep the schools and the NCAA out of high schools. It is not what I would call the best solution. But if it will prevent this “retro investigations” nonsense I am all for it.

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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 27, 2010 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Why
The procedures have to be changed for bringing in any recruit to the UK athletics programs

UK’s compliance office did its job, and two NCAA investigations and a Birm. board of ed. investigation proved it. The NCAA needs to overhaul the so called clearing house, but UK’s procedures appear to be working just fine.

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Sep 27, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, coop,you misunderstand.....everyone did their jobs here.

This is not about someone not doing their job. This is about the fact that these “after the fact” or “retro” investigations are always going to be. The clearing house is exactly what I am referring to. Get rid of it. Remove it entirely from the equation. Put the NCAA people on the front lines. Assign one- ten of them to each conference. Put personnel in places where a school can take a kid like Bledose when he is a Junior and say, ok NCAA, help us get this kid qualified. Tell us what we need to do for him. Dont make it a penalizing entity, make it an entity that helps the schools, not punishes them.

I Shall Always Be The Cat......In The Hat!!! The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!

by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 27, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, my bad

Its early, its Monday….

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Sep 27, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I couldn't disagree more.
The procedures have to be changed for bringing in any recruit to the UK athletics programs, AND to the NCAA athletics programs in general. Not because of the Bledsoe situation, which ended up being much ado about nothing, but what if those grades had been John Wall’s? How much incentive could there have been for someone to make changes to his grades knowing that a possible six figure payoff was waiting in the wings? Am I saying that is going to happen? No. But it could. And not just here at UK. The "Haters" , as Coop so eloquently put it, aside, the NCAA has to not only review their guidelines, they need to get some procedures in place to allow for some control and assistance for these kids in getting qualified.

The procedures worked fine. They are not broken, and do not need fixing.

What would you suggest, that UK pay law firms $10k to look into marginal recruits? Nonsense.

The game is the game. Play it. Sometimes the bear gets you. As long as UK does their job to the best of their ability, which I believe they are doing now, that’s enough.

You cannot name one thing that needs changing based on this situation.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 27, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand your disagreement Glenn, and can appreciate what you are saying,

but to stick our heads in the sand on this issue is not going to prevent this thing from cropping up in the future. And I really believe that Cal, and Sandy Bell, along with a majority of the Big Blue Nation would be ecstatic if we never have to hear the words “NCAA clearing house” again.

Is 10k an unresasonable expense? Well, I don’t know. How much do you figure a starting shooting/point guard is worth in the NCAA these days? The kid helped bring in millions to UK, I guess 10K is a little much to spend to make sure he should really be allowed to be there.

Look, we can all claim a sigh of relief here, and I think that more than anything should be what the fans have done. Celebrating, Mr. Parrish? I do not think so, but breathing a little easier, sure.

And to be honest I can name at least 10 things that should be changed about this situation, but they all start in the same place.

Playing the game is fine, assuming you just accept that at some point you are going to land on chance and the “go to jail” card is going to crop up. I dont think anyone did anything wrong here, but this situation is a long way from being right. And dont assume I am handing out blame, because everyone can still be blameless and the situation go completely in the tank.

Just a little bit of cooperation between the NCAA, UK, and the school could have brought all of this to light before the kid ever played a game. Then it would have ceased to be a concern for anyone, and we would not have the Pete Thamel’s of this world squeezing our Big Blue gonads every chance they get. Is it a good thing to have to do? No, but it just might become the best thing to do.

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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 27, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are simply wrong, in my opinion.

I’m sick of allowing the Parishes and others to define what we should and should not be proud of.

If you want to kowtow to these fools, knock yourself out. I’m having none of if.

We did everything right, and instead of praise, we get “You should be ashamed?” Give me a freaking break, Greg. We need to grow a pair here, and quit the “duck and cover” act every time some national sportswriter tut-tuts at us.

I have had enough apologizing for doing the right thing. No more.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 27, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where did I say anything about being ashamed, or anyone else defining what we

should and should not be? This is not about UK, at east not near as much as it is about the system itself being flawed. I said earlier that we did everything right. However, just doing everything right is not enough sometimes. Sometimes you have to push to make changes occur. Otherwise we would still be playing with the uprights on the goal line, and the forward pass would be illegal, there would be no 3 point line and $100 handshakes would still be the norm.

There is an opportunity to fix something here that is broken. Now, from your assessment, I see that you claim otherwise, and that is fine, but it still does not keep the NCAA from arbitrarily changing their minds whenever they feel like it,

I want a policy in place, and a system to back it up, that prevents this kind of thing from happening. I want the NCAA to be proactive in HELPING the schools get kids qualified, not looking to see who’s final four they can take away next. Let’s do the right thing this time BEFORE someone has to go begging for their season not to be taken away.

Thinking that this is just about Kentucky or Calipari is simply not looking ahead or thinking clearly. I don’t care if it’s Duke, UK, UCLA, or USC. I want a system in place that gets the kids qualified properly, so there is no going back on a teacher two years after the fact looking for homework that probably ended up in the dumpster 2 days after the grade was recorded. I could care less about Thamel, Parrish, or anyone else in this case. I care about the sport and it’s future. A future I want UK to be a big part of. And I don’t want our future to rest in the hands of some pencil pushing attorney with their own version of what is right and wrong.

If we have to spend a little money to get there, then fine. It is a small price to pay for the future of the sport. And it is not about kowtowing. It is about doing the right thing because it is the right thing. Not because some reporter has a bug up his butt about everything he sees with a Wildcat on it.

I Shall Always Be The Cat......In The Hat!!! The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!

by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 27, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't have the solution

I ‘m not sure what to do about it, but I do think something needs to change with the system. I just can’t agree with the NCAA coming in retroactively after their own clearhouse certifies a player and reversing wins. Maybe its as simple as adopting a standard (God forbid!!!) and appling it equally to all schools or creating a separate fact finding entity that reports to the clearinghouse. I agree with Glenn that the system should be left alone….mostly. My biggest problem is the fact that the NCAA does whatever it wants to without any consistancy. How in the world is any school supposed to know what to do without a consistant and fair application of clearly understood rules???

What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know,
But what we know for sure...but just ain't so.
-Mark Twain

by BigBlue1976 on Sep 28, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

And to be honest, I do not see how you fix one problem without addressing the other.

You cannot tell people to just “stay away” from a rabid dog. You have to do something about the dog.

I Shall Always Be The Cat......In The Hat!!! The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!

by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 28, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

A Quagmire

That’s what all of college athletics is. There are so many loopholes in the rules and so many different people with there hands in the cookie jar. At what point do all the schools throw their hands in the air and say, “We give up on the NCAA!” and disband it and start all over. I realize this is extreme and probably wont fix everything. Just wondering if it could ever come to that.

What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know,
But what we know for sure...but just ain't so.
-Mark Twain

by BigBlue1976 on Sep 28, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

A Quagmire?

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Sep 28, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome comment.

I totally agree. Do the work, if they are qualified, then they are.

Recommended.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 28, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Back In 60's

UK signed a player with so-so HS grades and 6 (yes SIX) ACT score.

The player was admitted to UK conditionally. He knuckled down, studied with the help of tutors, and graduated from UK in 4 years.

It can be done.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 28, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, for the record, just so I have it here in black and white.

Mike Hartline did not play badly. A Heisman Trophy candidate could have thrown 2 picks against Florida. I was actually really impressed with his attacking Florida like that. Showed me the kid had some big league cojones. This one hangs solely around the necks of the defense. If we do not learn to tackle, and to cover receivers one on one, we cannot compete in the SEC. At least not for Championships anyway. And Matthews was amazing. He better thank Randall Cobb for all of those double and triple teams he was fighting through for those receptions. T2 not being at his best did not help either, but what can you do?

Offense gets a solid C+/B-. I am not going to even bother grading the defense…….

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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 27, 2010 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Hartline played better than people are giving him credit for, but he wasn't good either

That pick 6 was just God awful.

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Sep 27, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

against Florida, everyone gets one gimme......if that one had cost us the game, I would also be

ready to scream. But in the overall picture of things, that was a drop in the bucket. I give the kid credit for not losing this one. I would have loved to see him play a perfect game, but that would have been asking for too much.

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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 27, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like Hartline...

…but, that was one ugly interception. I was at the game and made the mistake of running my mouth to a lot of Florida friends at different tailgates before the game. I don’t know of any other time that my perception of reality was that far off. Florida made UK look like we would not have a chance to beat them if we played 10 times. It was a convincing win for the Gators.

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by SaturdayDownSouth on Sep 27, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Sep 27, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Totally Agree

Once the clearinghouse rules, it’s over. So what if new evidence comes to light two years later. You made your ruling and that’s that.

What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know,
But what we know for sure...but just ain't so.
-Mark Twain

by BigBlue1976 on Sep 27, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

ro, I agree wholeheartedly, but let me throw another thing out there

Suppose that in addition to what you suggest, they ALSO modify the scholarship documents such that any prospective student athlete is required to repay the institution in full for tuition and room/board books etc, for any academic fraud committed in gaining or maintaining eligibility or for any action that eliminates his/her amateur status?

I see no reason to punish an otherwise innocent institution, but in Rose’s case, or O.J.Mayo’s, for instance, shouldn’t the offending “student” bear some responsibility, too?

by BCinVA on Sep 27, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like it

With a fair recruiting landscape,and a true amateur status, we see Mayo and Patterson at either Marshall or UK together,

"all the way"

by ro307805 on Oct 12, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm fine with that.

Unfortunately, that will never happen.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 27, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, ...

I don’t think that’s a good idea. It incentivizes athletic programs to shift from trying to engage in eligibility compliance to eligibility subterfuge.

by TeamWeaver on Sep 27, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

History Repeats (60 Years Later)

This must be what it was like in early 1950’s with negative articles by the media during the Point Shaving scandals of that era.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 27, 2010 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Except We Were Proven to Be Quilty Back Then.....

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Sep 27, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's The Misconception

UK had nothing to do with it. A few players were found guility. Some were exonerated.

But UK paid the price (1953 Death Penalty and probably loss of 1954 NCAA title) anyway.

by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 27, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Probably a lot worse Forty

The internet sometimes is like throwing fuel on two sticks of kindling.

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Sep 27, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am celebrating....

not that we “got away” with anything (ala Parish) but that the process worked – ie, there was no evidence (only personal opinion) that grades were changed and as a result the transcript was not changed. without a changed transcript, the ncaa could not be capricious and arbitrary in any decision.

one last statement – had he picked any other school besides UK, this matter NEVER would have arisen. call it hate or whatever, but we had better be on our toes with all our recruits….

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on Sep 27, 2010 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

I do not think that I have ever agreed more with the opening paragraph

of a blog entry than I do this one. You took the words right out of my mouth.

And for the record, Mr. Parrish needs to understand that I am not celebrating the changing of an athletically gifted high school athlete’s grade from a “C” to an “A”- – if we threw a celebratory party for every time that has happened across the country we would have Lindsay Lohan tweeting us and saying “Whoa, guys— back off the partying a little bit and take it easy” – - I am celebrating the fact that Coach Cal is still doing his thing and Pete Thamel is exposed as a hack who tried to make his name at the expense of a high school kid.

Coach Cal makes money off high school kids by building them up, and helping them reach their potential and realize their dreams of playing in the league. Guys like Thamel try making money off high school kids by rummaging through their closets trying to find something to play “gotcha” with and tear them down. How pathetic is that? Seriously?

And how naive can Parrish really pretend to be about high school athletes and school work? Didn’t he ever overhear them talking to each other after they stuffed him in a locker?

.

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by HSLex on Sep 27, 2010 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Points well made

I have commented often that the “clearing house” is a farce. The “investigations” are seemingly without exact criteria. The school systems are wild cards. The names on the reviews often fuel the efforts…i.e. Kentucky basketball gets more looks than Alabama football? I am reminded of the feel-good Michael Ord story with his success at Ole Miss fueled by numerous BYU on line classes. Even with the success of the movie I remember no backwards-examination of his high school success after dismal failure in the beginning.

As much as we focus on basketball here, the numbers in football are out of the park. Can you imagine total review of the high school players in all rural or economically stressed city schools?

I am not advocating that the NCAA staff do anything except act in an accountable manner. Have rules. Abide by them. Stop this always going back on a hint of improper behavior however late it comes up. Assign accountability to facts. Derrick Rose is a great example. Who was accountable for what may or may not have been a situation that may have altered his elgibility? Not the college he eventually played for. Perhaps the high school or even heaven forbid the testing services.

Celebrate the Bledsoe outcome? Hardly…but we can be proud of his play and his progress. I think he earned it.

Just to repeat…I hate all things clearing house connected. The concept is so poorly constructed the NCAA needs to find another way.

by CAWebb on Sep 27, 2010 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Another article from Birmingham's way

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2010/09/city_schools_should_seek_more.html

I tend to agree with this fellow. There is something not quite right about the Bledsoe grade change.

With that said:
What does Kentucky have anything to do with it? They did more due diligence than Santa Claus. The NCAA cleared the kid to play, based on Birmingham’s transcripts.

If there are houses to be put in order start with the Birmingham School System, then move on to the NCAA who could have held UK hostage with that cockamamie “strict liability” crap based on the aforementioned school system’s problems.

And, by the way, who was celebrating?
I must have missed something. If the report led to UK celebrations — if there were sacrificial offerings, drunken debauchery, other forms of gratuitous sex and or violence — please respond and I will send you my personal e-mail address.

From my take there was just relief, and some analysis.

No matter where you're at, there you are

by cincyblue on Sep 27, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Joker Is Wrong
I don’t think we got out-athleted," said Phillips in response to a question.

Of course UK was out-athleted versus UF, they have been for last several years and will be for the foreseeable future — what’s more they were out coached as well — but that is a football reality due to several factors, not the least of which is pure demographics, that must be accepted. A greater problem is that, using observation of most of the SEC games to date, UK will be out-athleted in nearly every conference game (Vandy being the obvious exception). The simple fact is that in order for UK to win an SEC game they must overachieve while hoping the opponent under achieves and that happens occasionally thus the Cats SEC win %: .266 last 10 years.

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by Wild Weasel on Sep 27, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

We got out-athleted, out-hustled, out-thought,

and out-performed. The only thing we didn’t get “outed” of was the closet.

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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 27, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

No doubt you are right about the athletes.

You can’t blame Joker too much for the coach-speak. He can’t go telling his guys that they are not quality athletes, etc. That’s just not how coaching is done.

But you are 100 % right. We were out-athleted and frankly, out-talented. Hands down.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 27, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blanda Passes Away

Perhaps UK’s greatest player dead at 83.

Socialism is not an alternative to capitalism; it is an
alternate to any system which men can live as human
beings." Ludwig von Mises

by Wild Weasel on Sep 27, 2010 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

sad to see....

I Shall Always Be The Cat......In The Hat!!! The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!

by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 27, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, man.

I am a Raider fan — not so much any more as in my childhood — and I grew up on Blanda, Daryle Lamonica, Fred Biletnikoff et. al.

Man, I am sad to hear that. God rest his soul, he was maybe the greatest football player ever at Kentucky.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 27, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not Excatly Celebrating

But I am happy to have this behind us. It’s like walking through a minefield and coming out unscathed. Those who hate UK,and Cal,will continue to look for anything and everything just to say “I told you so.” As for Bledsoe there is no question somebody helped him with grades and I don’t mean tutoring.

by maysvilleblue on Sep 28, 2010 7:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Tony Wroten drops UK from list of final five scools

link

Apparently we UK fans are disappointed. We were drooling over the prospect of the prince of the Narcissus Tweet coming to UK. Did I miss something?

No matter where you're at, there you are

by cincyblue on Sep 28, 2010 8:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Evidently.

I’m not disappointed. The guy is Willie Warren II.

Good luck to him.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 28, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, no coach can afford a diva

on a young team that wants to “go far”.

No matter where you're at, there you are

by cincyblue on Sep 28, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thought I might be alone

on this one. Glad to see others feel the same way. I’m sure the haters will say we wouldn’t be saying that if he hadn’t dropped us from his list, but I can’t stand big egos, and this guy had one of the biggest. Give me PPat’s attitude every day and twice on Sunday over someone who behaves like Wroten.

by Acdixon on Sep 28, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

And the haters also forget, that we have 4 players in the top 20 of this class. We dont exactly need Wroten anymore. It’d be nice, but he took too long and I think the ship already sailed for him a long way back.

What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know,
But what we know for sure...but just ain't so.
-Mark Twain

by BigBlue1976 on Sep 28, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

football

I am a Kentuckian I bleed blue But why can’t we put football on are list a little disappointed in the UK-Fl. game your right we really haven’t played anyone this year but i believe we have a better team that didn’t show up Sat.. Also disappointed in our b"ball last season we could of should of went all the way had no reason not to.Hope we at least show up the rest of season . LOVE KENTUCKY GO BIG BLUE

by Namon Eldridge on Sep 28, 2010 8:56 AM EDT reply actions  

"Hoops" On Calipari, Bledsoe & Kanter

Dick Weiss (is there anyone better?) provides objective (how different from Thamel, et al) commentary on a summer of discontent.

Socialism is not an alternative to capitalism; it is an
alternate to any system which men can live as human
beings." Ludwig von Mises

by Wild Weasel on Sep 28, 2010 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Good article.

Nothing much new, except the objectivity.

'sgo blue!

by bob in bg on Sep 28, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank goodness

the NCAA has closed the Bledsoe case. Now we can focus on freeing Enes.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on Sep 28, 2010 7:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I was in my barbershop

There in front of the chair was a large computer print out. “FREE ENES” I loved it. My barber said many people asked about it but He knew I would know what it meant.

Happy Days are here again! Wildcat's have #1 recruiting class again!

by oldcat73 on Sep 28, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely agree with the article. Hell yeah, we should be celebrating. Because the good guys won by playing by the rules. Thamel broke the law and tried to create gold from tin. He failed and that is worthy of celebrating. And with all due respect to Mr. Edwards’ suggestions, I totally disagree. Either the initial clearing house ruling should stand forever or the NCAA simply needs to get out of the academic qualification arena and let each university decide their acceptance policy. I’d prefer the later.

by Cat-a-list on Sep 28, 2010 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I have the feeling

that the NCAA was more than glad to move on from the Bledsoe matter.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on Sep 28, 2010 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I think that's absolutely right.

They could not wait to close this case.

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by Glenn Logan on Sep 29, 2010 6:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

There were a lot of

landmines in that field if they had decided to walk into it. Clear you once, its on you, clear you twice its on us.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on Sep 29, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

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