Kentucky Basketball: Bledsoe Report Expected Friday
by Glenn Logan on Sep 24, 2010 6:27 AM EDT
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Finally an end to this nonsense.
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 24, 2010 7:12 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
End?
By releasing the information at 4 pm (CDT), there will be an entire weekend of commentary.
Yeah the end.....
because the report will clear Bledsoe and UK.
What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know,
But what we know for sure...but just ain't so.
-Mark Twain
That is my belief....but hey, what do I know?.....lol
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 24, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. That’s why I said “supposedly” in my comment yesterday. And even then, we don’t know when they will come along and say that they have had to re-open the investigation because the NYT has released new “facts” based on reliable sources.
Recent evidence has uncovered some improprieties. It has been proven that Bledsoe was born. We must check into this.
Tongue in cheek. I think. LOL
Absolutely no end to the nonsense.
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Glenn
You’re right. It has been done to death. Hopefully it will be buried at last. Let’s say, about
100 miles deep. That should put it at least through the earth’s crust. LOL
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Parrish On Kanter
Calipari believes Enes is an amateur. No other coach does. Nobody knows … yet. PS: Another TN school in NCAA trouble.
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I hope Cal is the one talking to the NCAA.....lol.....
if what Parrish says is true, Kanter will be cleared if Cal gets to have the last word…..lol
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 24, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting and depressing reading about eligibility issue at Hofstra
“The eligibility story you haven’t heard” on ESPN. http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/15667/the-eligibility-story-you-havent-heard
Eric's High School Coaches' Attorney
Says he is not looking for anything positive to come out of the Board meeting and the investigation.
But hey, it is a Jerry Tipton story, so if anyone is going to see the glass half empty……lol
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 24, 2010 4:55 PM EDT reply actions
I have got 7 websites open and waiting for this thing to hit.....lol.....
maybe I should look for more???
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 24, 2010 4:57 PM EDT reply actions
too bad you don't like Twitter. : )
That is probably where it will hit first as most news so often does…..
Heh.
Matt Jones from Twitter: "And for the first time in the modern (aka “KSR major server”) era, the website has crashed. That tells me UK fans are VERY tense"
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The Alabama school board ...
… is in executive session:
From Twitter: “Specifically, the atty for the Board suggested the Report involved confidential school records protected by the federal law FERPA.”
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I do not have a good feeling about this situation...
Whether it is my pessimism about the NCAA or the “just our luck” feeling, this has me very nervous.
Even though I do not blame Calipari for this situation, this will be disastrous from a PR point of view. The “I told you so” crowd is waiting to hammer Coach Cal and UK.
My fingers and toes are crossed but still not confident this will turn out positive for UK.
The worst part is who can we blame. Bledsoe? The school or teacher that changed the grade? Coach Cal? Sandy Bell? The answer is probably a combination of several of them, but you know where ALL the blame will go. That is, of course, if it is shown that Bledsoe should have been ineligible.
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Relax.
There are many possible outcomes, but the main issue is going to be:
a) Was an improper grade given?
b) If so, why?
c) Bledsoe involved?
d) Should Bledsoe’s transcript be changed?
A lot of those answers could be good, and a lot of the them could be worrisome. But given the current situation, it appears to me that there is bad news for Alabama schools via FERPA.
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Yes there are many possible outcomes
however, as I understand it, the A in algebra III is what allowed Bledsoe to be eligible this past season. If it is shown that grade was changed from a C to an A, wouldn’t that mean that he would have been ineligible? If so, wouldn’t the NCAA have no choice but to vacate all those wins? I am not stating this as fact, just asking cause I don’t know.
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Well ...
… it all depends.
If the report finds monkey business with nefarious intent, it could matter indeed.
If the report finds a clerical error, or just what it considers a grade that it couldn’t find justification for, it becomes more of a judgment call.
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tea leaves
I think the problem is going to turn out to be – how Eric got to his final high school.
The “employee” with problems might turn out to be one of those coaches. You still might not have a “grade change” happening.
Of course, I’m just in prayer at this point myself.
I think ...
… there may be more issues for the school system to worry about than Bledsoe’s grade.
If they found an employee that released Bledsoe’s transcript without his consent, the litigation that will follow will be beyond their darkest dreams, as well as the potential consequences.
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From Matt Jones Twitter:
No report on Bledsoe yet but initial signs dont look good…meeting into executive session because of potential litigation from report
Ferpa
Could just be an excuse to close the session.
Litigation suggests that they are going to allege something and someone may deny and contest the allegation. That does not sound like a teacher to me. The coaches are the ones who have been out front with their own attorneys. Night school math teachers are not so difficult to put the squeeze on.
Despite Jones' latest tweet ...
… holding UK responsible isn’t really necessary.
If Alabama changes the transcript, an application of strict liability could result in a retroactive declaration of ineligibility, and vacation of wins.
Remember, the NCAA found no fault at all with UMass in the Camby matter. But their Final Four is nonetheless vacated.
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While I'd like to believe the NCAA relies on precedent
the story posted by StillCatwoman above shows they don’t really follow precedent at all . . . at least in foreign player eligibility cases. According to that story, the use of an exhibition game to count against Wall’s suspension last year was the only time that ever happened and they turned down a plea by Hofstra to do it after that.
That ...
… precedent really isn’t precedent for this case.
My point is that UK’s culpability isn’t required for them to vacate wins.
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That is ...
… the essence of strict liability.
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Oh, I know
that case doesn’t relate to the Bledsoe issue. My point is that they have shown they don’t have to follow precedent at all.
A tweet ...
… just said that the executive session is redacting information from the report.
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redacting as in removing?
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 24, 2010 5:56 PM EDT reply actions
Heh.
It would be indeed. And fitting, given how long all this has taken.
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The report could end the Alabama Football program.....lol.....
in Birmingham, THAT would get information redacted in a hurry!!!!
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 24, 2010 5:57 PM EDT reply actions
I promised Les it would remain a icon in UK history......lol
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 24, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I do not say this as a way of putting down the NCAA
but there are many in the media that believes that the NCAA was embarrassed somehow about the Reggie Bush situation. I just worry that the climate around the NCAA is to punish and gain back more control.
That may a paranoid view but it is shared by many who are far smarter than me.
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It's paranoid ...
… but it might be correct.
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I know this is just hearsay
but a woman on another site who lived in Birmingham said the judge responsible for the lawfirm investigation has a history of cover ups.
They are joking about "The door" on TCP. :-)
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I'd like the report to be released looking like a federal report on a CIA case...
Entire paragraphs blacked out to the point of being illegible. ROFL.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Heh.
That would be fun. Great for the blog. We could have a “fill in the blank” contest. :-)
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Reporters are already
all over the NCAA, I wonder if the NCAA really keeps all of this…inefficient…double-standard…unorganized nonsense up, whether the bad press will catch up with them. I’d really like to do a dance around the NCAA in flames.
Heh.
That has never bothered them before as far as I can tell…
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It will be interesting
if the pressure requires the NCAA to clean up its act. Kind of a precedent in itself.
I am not paranoid. I am freaking out to the point of losing my ever loving mind,
puking in a trash can and suffering from possible incontinence…..but I am NOT paranoid!!!
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 24, 2010 6:04 PM EDT reply actions
That's funny right there ...
… I don’t care who you are. :-)
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Emmer
…was making some “new sheriff in town” noise the other day but it didn’t seem to make much of a thump when it landed.
We can all hope ...
… that he doesn’t decide to land on us like a mastadon.
That would be a big thump. :-)
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Glenn
Just let me say thank you for this site.
ESPN is announcing that Houston is now the best football team in Texas.......just in case anyone cares!!!
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 24, 2010 6:05 PM EDT reply actions
The boys
won’t be good with Romo in the pocket and Wade Phillips as coach…in my opinion anyway. I live in Houston and I like the Texans and don’t like the Cowboys so I guess I’m biased. Although I don’t care what the statistics are, I think Schaub is a terrible QB.
I just realized.
I have to change my profile. It no longer makes any sense. :-)
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IT's CLOSEUP time baby!!!!
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 24, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
OK its 5 O'Clock now even in Birmingham.......time to get this show on the road!!!!
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 24, 2010 6:07 PM EDT reply actions
Glenn
who “ordered” this investigation by this law firm? In other words, is this being done for the NCAA and will be the official record of this situation?
Or is this something else altogether?
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The alabama school board.
Paid 10K to a third party law firm to investigate questions raised by the NYT.
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So is this report really just a primer for the NCAA
they can choose to use this as a basis for an investigation of their own or not to investigate at all?
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i've been off the grid
does anyone know anything yet? I was neurotic an hour and a half ago before it dawned on me that Birmingham is on central time
we have determined without a doubt that we know nothing yet
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 24, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
lol so it didn't matter that I was lost for awhile.
by StillCatwoman on Sep 24, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
other than you missed my comment on incontinence and puking, no
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 24, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Just coming out of executive session, I think ...
… twitter is keeping me more or less up to date.
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Latest from Matt Jones:
Alabama tv station now reporting that the Bledsoe report might NOT be released to public due to privacy concerns…how about that
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Jones claiming that the report may not be released due to privacy issues
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 24, 2010 6:13 PM EDT reply actions
Meeting has been adjourned.
Nothing released to public. No announcement made yet.
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I have no read.
My feeling is that there are concerns, but I’m not sure who is the main object of concern. It could be a teacher, a coach, or Bledsoe himself.
Too many unknowns to unravel.
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OK, let the speculation begin......
If they do not release any info, there is nothing for the NCAA to do is there?
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 24, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Latest tweet:
Bledsoe earned his grade according to superintendent & teacher.
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that sounds good on the surface
but don’t they have alot to lose if he didnt earn that grade?
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just found this
- Bledsoe earned his grade according to superintendent & teacher. half a minute ago via TweetCaster
- One member voted not to accept the report. The rest voted yes. We have not seen it. 2 minutes ago via TweetCaster
- Report was accepted and meeting adjourned. 3 minutes ago via TweetCaster
Latest tweet:
Teacher said bledsoe made up work and grade was changed.
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sounds like high school to me.....
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 24, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh.
Nice work, I think. Let’s not count our loose change yet. :-)
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Latest tweet:
The scope of that investigation was limited. But good news for UK and Bledsoe so far, guys.
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Now, where can I find that Thamel Son of a !@@#$%^%$#@???
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 24, 2010 6:19 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking...
I’m sure he will have an appology write up tomorrow morning.
by stephensmith on Sep 24, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Now.........Greg
Oh, he’s still with us. That kind can always be seen slinking around lurking in dark places.
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Latest tweet from Matt:
Cartwright reports that the makeup work warranted the grade change according to the investigation.
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I give.....SevenRings
Man, I don’t even drink but I might start now, after all of this BS. Just quit sniffing glue this week but might start again. LOL
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From Fake Gimel:
Pete Thamel has the biggest case of blue balls ever recorded in the history of man.
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Latest tweet from MyKSR1
They have nothing to the contrary indicating the work was not done.
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Greg was probably right
The people in the Birmingham school system had too much to lose if this came out against them.
I think creature's feature ...
… was pretty much on the mark.
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creature had the insight of understanding how it all really worked as a teacher.
It made his much more detailed and precise than mine. Better article.
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 24, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Latest tweet:
The report may have taken issue with credibikity, given that they did not have supporting materials, etc, but Superintendent was firm
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Latest tweet:
I am waiting on the report. They are making copies. Sorry if these tweets seem a little disjointed, connection here is horrble.
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Latest tweet:
All of the comments I tweeted were from interviews with the Superintendent.
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I am so anti Twitter (and I will keep those reasons to myself)
but I am tempted to join just to keep up with the flow information
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think of twitter as a search engine which it really is
when you see it in that way, you may warm up to it. It is a really handy tool
by StillCatwoman on Sep 24, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I can see the headlines now.......
That Cheating Calipari Does It Again……
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 24, 2010 6:29 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah
the conspiracy theory of how he controlled the law firm and the Birmingham school board should really be entertaining.
Wonder if any apologies get issued from ANYONE???
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by Greg Alan Edwards on Sep 24, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Not from members of the press
They never apologize. LHL didn’t even formally retract the Tipton story about Pat having an improper car.
Latest tweet:
Craig Witherspoon said Eric Bledsoe earned his grade change, but Sxhool Board needed to shore up its policies on allowing makeup work & time
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Latest tweet:
Still waiting on the report, but looks like action School Board will take is prospective only.
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Latest tweet fromMyKSR1:
I have the 4 page report in hand.
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His name is Cartwright.
He works for Kentucky Sports Report (Scout).
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from al.com
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2010/09/bledsoe_report_teachers_claim.html
No matter where you're at, there you are
That story sure is different than
the information we are getting from the interview tweets. Just shows how a reporter can put a spin on it.
Latest tweet:
Clearly, the report did not believe the teacher. Just as clearly, the Board is accepting the teacher’s word. They really have no choice.
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I think we can now say ...
… Creature called this shot. Nice.
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Does he have any thoughts on UK +14
I am up a bit and I need to bury my bookie…:)
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Will..........a2d2
Don’t know. But if not, it will probably be the end of me. My head is swimming right now, right now, right now……………………Aaaaargh!
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Whew!
So, are we all good? Can we move on now to the next big thing? Enes?
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
Here comes Thamel:
Birmingham News reports that the reasons for former Kentucky star Eric Bledsoe’s grade changes were “not credible.” http://bit.ly/cwOUAZ.
This guy is defending his work, but it looks like he will lose.
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Matt sums it up:
So here is the deal…investigation doesnt believe teacher but has no proof of wrongdoing. So school board cant do anything….
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Jeff Drummond tweets:
Bledsoe report says reasons for grade change did not seem credible, but school board and superintendent are accepting teacher’s word.
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Dana White needs to put together
a Matt Jones vs. Pete Thamel match in the octagon
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This is an outcome I did not foresee
They’re apparently not going to overturn the grade – but they are going to allow the report to cast aspersions on the reputation of an individual teacher.
That’s really odd. There’s something we’re not seeing. Maybe the teacher was going to sue.
Now Thamel and the rest will be able to continue to slam Kentucky, and the NCAA can just stand there and watch it.
Well, there was no further discussion of rent or improper benefits received from coaches.
Maybe a year from now this teacher buys a new house in Los Angeles.
I thought about future suspicious upgrades to lifestyle.
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
nonetheless
This puts any possibility of the season being vacated much further away. Just about impossible.
Oh, there’s plenty of ammo for the haters. The judge was a real judge. But the superintendent was a real superintendent, and whatever the journos and gamblers may say, his teachers will know from now on that when they wield the authority of the Birmingham, Alabama schools, their administration HAS THEIR BACK.
Forty. Where are you. We need your assessment on all this insanity. I’m serious man. No more trolling. I know you’re happy too. So, what is your take?
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Forty says-
This same type of incident came up in ’62, so it was double jeopardy…
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Nothing To Say
I had grade changed in Prob & Stat II from C to A because my prof failed to credit my homework assignments. I kept copies and give them to him. He gave me the A grade.
My first semester 71-72 grade report showed C but my transcript shows A.
by FortyYearCatFan on Sep 24, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Even in the civil and criminal law
…there are cases in which the system can only point to the actual facts – not redress them.
So this outcome seems to hit Eric and the soon-to-be-named teacher, but not Kentucky.
I’m just going to let the whole thing drop. As so often happens – my prayers were answered but part of the answer was No.
But I think our season and UK2K and all that, and the upcoming season, all that is safe, and for the rest of it I just won’t read Gary Parrish for a month or two.
Now if we get Enes cleared everybody will really hate us. Great.
Instant anallysis up.
I’m done for the night. Time to enjoy my Friday.
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Bittersweet feeling
The primary objective was attained.
But it looks like a teacher did cheat. And this doesn’t make Eric look very good either.
That makes me feel kind of bad. Still: here’s to ya, Eric. Be a good player, and be a good person. If you had to bend a rule or two to get out – it’s not a sin. But the entire Birmingham school system stood up for you as family, right or wrong. So it is on you to do good.
Hear me? You owe them. Do not forget.
Thanks Glenn
for relaying all the tweets and getting us informed as quickly as possible.
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