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Next Saturday afternoon, only one week from today, we'll be finding out if Joker Phillips' "Operation Win" will be getting off on the right foot, or suffering a major setback at the hands of a bitter rival.

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  • " Why we’re not appearing on the KSR radio show John Clay’s Sidelines

    I don't really want to get into this much, but two things come immediately to mind:

    - You should never use photographs for which you do not have the permission of the copyright holder.  KSR should either use photos for which they have permission, Creative Commons photos, or none.  There is almost no such thing as fair use of a photograph.

    - The Herald-Leader loses this argument.  They look incredibly petty, even if they do have a beef with Jones & Co.  The correct thing for them to do was to either decline and shut up, or participate with the price being an agreement that KSR will no longer use photographs from the Herald-Leader without permission, if KSR are still doing so.

    John Clay, Jerry Tipton et. al. have no choice here, but if they did, they might still decline to participate based on a plethora of reasons.  None of those reasons need be public, nor will this petulant whine by the H-L editors be in any way beneficial to either of them.  If they have a case, they know where the courtroom is.

    I'm not couching this in a new media vs. dead tree media argument, because I'm not sure that's what it really boils down to.  But the H-L could use the exposure, "free content" or otherwise.  It is the print media furloughing authors, not the new media, who are getting new gigs like this all the time.  A pistol shot to the right toe comes to mind here.  Unwise in the best of times, which these are definitely not.

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LHL/KSR

I completely agree with Tru’s summation of the article. While I dislike Tipton quite a bit Ive always generally liked the other writers of the LHL. Their constant whining about their feud with KSR is extremely annoying though. The big bad KSR bully isnt being nice to them so their going to take their ball and go home. I wish they all would just shut it and writer about what they do well. Kentucky sports.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Aug 28, 2010 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha

I didn’t realize there was that much between them until I read that article.

SaturdayDownSouth.com - SEC Football Blog

by SaturdayDownSouth on Aug 30, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kyle Wiltjer has apparentally verbally committed to Kentucky. I didn’t know that we were
in the running. Here’s a url. I hope. http://www.wildcatworld.com/?O9oYtpYM

Happy days are here again,
The skies are Wildcat Blue again,
We've got the best recruits again,
Happy days are here again.

by alwaysblue on Aug 28, 2010 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

He announced it on espn at halftime of the

24 elite game. Cal nails another one. The man could recruit Satan to play for God.

I Shall Always Be The Cat......In The Hat!!! The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!

by Greg Alan Edwards on Aug 28, 2010 9:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well he did at one time, but he wanted the head coaches job. So he got kicked off the team. LOL

Happy days are here again,
The skies are Wildcat Blue again,
We've got the best recruits again,
Happy days are here again.

by alwaysblue on Aug 28, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cal could convince him to come off the bench as the

Second option after halftime and he would smile and be ecstatic about it. Assuming he could play the ddmo of course.

I Shall Always Be The Cat......In The Hat!!! The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!

by Greg Alan Edwards on Aug 28, 2010 9:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wiltjer Video

Canadian national team at Nike Global Challenge.

"People unfit for freedom -- who cannot do much with it -- are hungry for power. The desire for freedom is an attribute of a 'have' type of self. It says: leave me alone and I shall grow, learn, and realize my capacities. The desire for power is basically an attribute of a 'have not' type of self." — Eric Hoffer

by Wild Weasel on Aug 28, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

CAL gets 5 stars that havent even set foot on campus

It’s getting utterly ridiculous and I love it.

DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!

by davw83 on Aug 28, 2010 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeeeeeeah it is. But it sure is fun and makes me happy. Go Cal and Big Blue.

Happy days are here again,
The skies are Wildcat Blue again,
We've got the best recruits again,
Happy days are here again.

by alwaysblue on Aug 28, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Hall Did That, Too

Ed Davender (for example) committed to UK in 1983 without ever having visited campus.

But it IS unusual.

by FortyYearCatFan on Aug 29, 2010 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have to say that this is the most psyched I have been

about both football and basketball in the same year in a loooooooong time. God Bless Kentucky and no place else. Lol

Anyone remember that line???

I Shall Always Be The Cat......In The Hat!!! The Artist Formerly Known As ABC!

by Greg Alan Edwards on Aug 28, 2010 10:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I think you missed the point Tru regarding the H-L/KSR nerd fight

The Hearld-Leader isn’t being a bunch of pansies because of a couple of pictures posted without permission. They are being a bunch of pansies because Matt Jones (rightly) keeps making fun of Jerry Tipton. He also took a couple of shots at John Clay recently. That, and only that, is the reason for the “ban.”

The Hearld-Leader would have been better off telling the truth which, while very weak, is a lot better than the transparent reason they gave in the statement. The Hearld-Leader absolutely embarassed themselves.

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
@btcoop71

by btcoop71 on Aug 28, 2010 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Well ...

… as I say, I’m not in a position to offer extensive commentary.

It may well be that the given reason was nothing but a smokescreen for something even more petulant. If so, more’s the pity.

If the H-L writers’ skin is so thin that the cannot take criticism, I think they are in the wrong profession. I have a hard time believing that, though. But you never know, it is certainly a possibility.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Aug 29, 2010 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reloaded

UKCat8Fan strikes again — and it’s just about 2010. He’ll have to hurry for the 2011 version.

"People unfit for freedom -- who cannot do much with it -- are hungry for power. The desire for freedom is an attribute of a 'have' type of self. It says: leave me alone and I shall grow, learn, and realize my capacities. The desire for power is basically an attribute of a 'have not' type of self." — Eric Hoffer

by Wild Weasel on Aug 28, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Applauding LHL's ban of KSR

If KSR wants to play with the big boys they need to act like one.
They apparently don’t understand copyright law. Which is odd b/c Matt is a lawyer.
They insult Tipton and (not so much) Clay on a regular basis. And the reason is usually, we just don’t like you.
Take the Human Bowling Ball video from Canada. KSR posted the video and referred to it on many posts. And why was it funny, because Tipton was knocked off his chair and KSR doesn’t like Tipton. Yeah that’s funny — if you are ten years old.

So, let’s look at LHL’s decision. KSR is using its copyrighted material. KSR insults it’s writers with no argument or logic — other than “we just don’t like you”. Those insults may potentially damage LHL’s bottom line — especially with the younger readers. Why wouldn’t they want to break all cooperation with KSR?

And don’t call this new media versus old. Clay links to blog sites all the time.

Finally, KSR has potential. Matt’s radio show is actually pretty good and the blog is usually first with UK news.
But, grow up. Stop pretending/wishing you were in College again. Again: Matt, BTI, Turkey Hunter, etal., you’ve got some good stuff going… but look up the word “sophomore”.

No matter where you're at, there you are

by cincyblue on Aug 29, 2010 5:04 AM EDT reply actions  

I think I pointed out ...

… that I didn’t believe this was a new media/old media thing. Clay’s embrace of the new media has nothing to do with what his editor said, or believes.

The H-L may have perfectly valid reasons for their decision, but the one given is absurdly trivial and looks petulant. When you are in a position of leadership (and like it or not, they are in their market), you don’t throw out plaintive whines like this.

Better just to stay silent, and let your silence speak. Or just say it was a business decision — everyone would respect that.

As far as the radio show goes, I have not had time to listen in yet. It comes during the time of day when I am most busy and can least afford any distractions. But I have always thought that KSR did a good job, and Matt has always been good on the radio.

As to growing up, I don’t think that’s really in their best interest. Their target appears to be the 16-35 set, and that takes a certain type of shtick, and being a bit sophomoric is an advantage there, if that’s how it really goes.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Aug 29, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I First Met Matt Jones In 2001

Sophomoric then and now.

He (and KSR bloggers) do what appeals to their 20-something audience.

by FortyYearCatFan on Aug 29, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Radio

They have the radio show in podcast format if you’re interested: under KSR Show.

by bkalston on Aug 30, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is the best blog...

… but KSR does have some good posts and commentary from time to time. Sure, it is a younger audience with expected younger decorum. That said, I don’t understand the LHL’s position. Better to have the exposure than to let the status quo of losing money and furloughing writers go.

by JackBluto on Aug 30, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

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