The Big Blue Daily Mail -- Rumors of the BBDM's Demise Have Been Wildly Exaggerated
by Glenn Logan on Aug 18, 2010 6:43 PM EDT
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PrintYes, I know I have been less than attentive to the Big Blue Daily Mail. Consider this an apology. Now, who wants to come organize my office so I have time to write more? Beuller? Anyone?
Now, for the news:
- Kentucky's John Calipari: Canada trip 'not the SEC,' but 'we got better' - Campus Rivalry-USATODAY.com
- Calipari liked Lamb’s play; Dodson update | Vaught's Views
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LEX18 | Lexington, KY | News, Weather, Sports, Kentucky | Would ESPN Like To Change UK's Ranking?
Andy Katz has Kentucky 13th.
Here are his reasons. Katz put this out in May. You have to wonder if would like to change his mind after Kentucky's three game exhibition series in Canada.I actually don't think 13th is a bad place for the Wildcats to be pre-season.
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Already, it's Brandon Knight vs. John Wall - College Basketball Nation Blog - ESPN
Sure, Knight has that potential. But John Wall was an All-American as a freshman. He led a dominant team of NBA talent to a 35-3 overall record and an Elite Eight appearance. He was as physically gifted as any player we've seen in the past 10 years, and his intuitive leadership ability was almost unnatural for a player his age. He wasn't perfect -- you could make the argument that DeMarcus Cousins was vastly more productive -- but man, Wall was really good. He was the No. 1 pick in the NBA draft for a reason, you guys.
Eamonn Brennan takes me gently to task about my comments in re: Brandon Knight, and I do understand his point.
My reasoning, though, is based on observation. Brandon Knight played much better in Canada than Wall did very early in the season. That is simply a fact, and the competition was similar, although the conditions of the contest were substantially different.
Does that prove my suggestion that Knight will likely be a better college player? No, not really, but it does give me some basis for the comment. Knight has so far played the game with more "feel" than Wall, and less raw, spectacular athleticism. Eammon is totally correct that Knight has a long way to go to be able to duplicate Wall's plaudits, but let's be honest -- everyone who was voting for Wall knew he was a singular, generational talent before he ever stepped on the court. Knight isn't like that. Therefore, his threshold for accolades is automatically higher.
Knight is likely to average better numbers than Wall this season, but it is also likely that he won't be player of the year or even runner-up, unless Kentucky is able to substantially duplicate the 35-3 record they had last year. In the end, the superlatives are more a matter of perception than actual accomplishments. They tend to be highly subjective, as we all know. This is not to minimize what Wall did, but to explain that Player of the Year watch lists are not the standard to be using, if anyone actually is.
I know Knight doesn't have Wall's physical gifts, but it is obvious from just these three games that he makes better decisions and plays more under control. That's not really subjective, that's objective, and it was reflected in his statistics. That isn't proof of my argument, but just a bit of supporting evidence. Obviously, a lot more is needed before we can make definitive statements, and I am proudly hedging right now.
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Rush The Court " Shawne Merriman Wants To Go "Lights Out" On Christian Laettner
Christian Laettner's business efforts don't seem to be going very well. Karma is a bitch, Christian. Somewhere, Aminu Timberlake has a satisfied smile on his face.
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"These three games were important," Liggins said. "We got better, and we know what Coach Cal wants. It was big for the freshmen."
I think DeAndre is right on the mark.
- Wildcats Thunder Blog: UK to be on ESPN Super Tuesday 4 times
- Gilchrist still ranked No. 1
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Everyone is Talking About Knight
Brandon Knight is impressing people left and right after his tremendous play in Canada. Even though he wasn't playing against elite competition, Knight's play in Canada left UK fans with excitement for the upcoming season. Knight scored 31, 17, and 27 in UK's three exhibition games.
Brandon was terrific. I expected him to be very good, but he was better than that.
- Q&A with kicker Joe Mansour | Vaught's Views
- Kentucky Wildcats Stats from Canada
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UK notes: Trip a great value at $35,000 | KentuckySports.com
"I'll tell you what, we just got a lot of work done," said Calipari, who noted how he did not want the head start to lead to peaking too early. So he said he might give the players as much as two weeks off before resuming basketball activities.
Awesome. I love it when the coach is happy.
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Money Players: Summer’s Heat wave could help break labor impasse
So why did Cousins "slip" in the draft to the fifth pick overall? Prior to the draft, nbadraft.net delved in Cousins’ character issues, writing: "So why isn't Cousins projected as a top 3 pick? One scout when asked about Cousins chances of going top 5 texted me this (over a week ago): ‘No way. mental issues. he is on bigtime meds i hear. not athletic enough for me talent wise …"
What a crock. The author of this piece, Marc Isenberg, scoffs at this "scout," and rightly so. I hope his team fires him for stupidity. Nah, they probably agree with him. But they won't like playing him, that I guarantee.
Read the whole thing. Good blog.
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BYU is officially going to crawl back to the WAC in all sports and then flex their muscles by attempting to go independent in football
I'm sorry, I just don't get this.
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ROUGH DRAFT: THE PRESEASON BLOGPOLL BALLOT, 1-10 - Every Day Should Be Saturday
So with that we pronounce this first shot at a preseason poll an unhappy living/dead combo of the two approaches, which leans a little heavily towards the ballsy and ballsy-stupid method of a horrible half-frog, half-goat beast configured thusly:
Go read and enjoy.
- THE CURIOUS INDEX, 8/18/2010 - Every Day Should Be Saturday
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Charlie Strong addresses Cardinal nation - Card Chronicle
-Players are now expected to follow five core vaules:
1) Be honest
2) Treat women with respect
3) No drugs
4) No stealing
5) No weapons (added)This is sage advice for every team, Cardinals or otherwise.
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Arkansas fans sink to another low over a stupid hat - NCAA Football - CBSSports.com
Because you people are wrong, and you're not just wrong. You're scary. You people just got mad enough at a young woman, a local radio reporter named Renee Gork, to have her fired. Her crime? She wore a Florida Gators hat to a Bobby Petrino news conference. Petrino coaches Arkansas. One of his biggest rivals is Florida. The hat was a poor choice, I won't deny that. It was stupid, really.
Doyell plants the shoe firmly in the sunless spot. Ouch.
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Super Tuesday schedule is out | College Hoops Journal
Believe it or not, Kentucky will NOT be featured week in and week out. But the 'Cats will get more Tuesday night airtime than any other SEC team.
As it should be.
- Seton Hall settles wrongful firing suit with ex-coach Gonzalez - NCAA Division I Mens Basketball - CBSSports.com
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Brennan was wrong about Cal leaving for the NBA,
and he may very well be wrong about this.
It’s kinda like Seth Davis; whatever he writes, you can be sure the opposite is true.
Well, except for Davis picking SC to upset UK ....
what is it Toby Keith says, “Every dog has his day, dog …”
I don't think
he was trying to be “right”. I think he was trying to say that it’s far too early to be calling Knight a better college player than Wall. He didn’t say he would or wouldn’t actually be better, did he?
I’m with Brennan on this one. I’m not sure why we are in such a hurry to compare the two? I mean, sure, I suppose these player comparisons are necessary to some degree and they do make for good discussion and all, and yes, that is the purpose of blogs, to discuss players and their attributes, pass the time discussing who we may have seen play in years gone by that remind us of current players — I can totally understand that being a motivation for comparisons, but still, and as Brennan mentions, it’s a tad unfair to label Brandon the next coming of John Wall already.
I’m sure Knight is a well rounded kid and probably doesn’t sit up at night and wonder what UK fans’ expectation are of him and how he will measure up to Wall, but still, it seems sort of unnecessary to be comparing the two at this point, or really, ever, as far as I’m concerned. I guess we are a society that is all about labeling and that’s just kind of what we do? I’m sure Brandon will be an amazing ‘Cat and special in his own unique way, and for me, well, I think I’ll just let Wall be Wall and Knight be Knight.
Comparing players, especially great pg's
is part and parcel of being a fan, at least in my circle of friends, plus, I can’t stand Brennan, so I’m quick to criticize.
And Tru nor anyone else has said Knight is a better college player than Wall, but he certainly shows that potential.
well,
now we are just splitting hairs, don’t you think?
You are right, Tru didn’t say that Knight is a better college player than Wall, just that — “In my judgment, he is likely to be a better college player than John Wall.” That sort of the says that he will be, to me, but we all read different things and meanings into things, I suppose.
And yeah, I’m a Brennan fan, and to be honest, whether I have liked their message in the past or no, I try really hard not to be too quick to criticize any writer. There may come a day when they write some outstanding piece that knocks my socks off, so I try to keep an open mind.
And really, although he did take issue with some of Tru’s piece, he did have some very nice things to say about him and about the blog. He even referred to "the Gents at ASoB being the best to write about UK sports" (that’s paraphrasing). He said it in the plural form, so I assumed he meant Tru and you, as you are a “Gent”, after all. See, he likes you, Ken. : )
He writes for ESPN, he's wrong!
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
I'm with you on this one BSC ...
It’s way too early to try to compare Wall and Knight …. maybe after the SEC season cranks up or toward the end of the season. That being said, we all have to keep a few things in mind …. The Canadian games were man-to-man only …. no zone defense .. (note to future UK opponents – don’t try to play this UK team man-to man or bring your big-boy pants) … We were without our bigs (except Jorts) so this was perfect for the DDMO. Recall last year we saw a ton of zone … and Knight may have a better cast of characters for the DDMO than did Wall.
It’s just discussion … but how do you think Wall would have done with with these players against the Canadian team? or How do you think Knight would do playing with Patterson, Cousins, Orton Bledsoe and company?
I don't mind comparing the two right now.
How they are alike:
They both play point guard in basketball.
They both are around 6’4" tall.
They likely checked the same “race” category on their census form.
They both were/are freshman at UK and unlikely to be sophs.
They both had/will have hundreds of thousands of Kentuckians watching them play and rooting for their and their team’s success.
They both by all accounts appear to be wonderful representatives of UK and young men in general.
How they are different:
From what I know, Knight had a better high school GPA .
Knight won more state championships than Wall.
Knight had longer hair in high school but now they appear to have similar haircuts.
Wall is faster and talks faster than Knight.
I’ll let you know more stuff later after I have an intrusive background check performed on them both.
As I see it
right now, based on a limited sample, Knight is showing strength in the areas where Wall was weakest, turnovers and shooting. We have a long way to go, but if Knight keeps this up (it’s hard to imagine him getting much better at it) it might help lead the team to higher achievements. I think in some areas Knight appears to be further along than Wall was at the end of last season. Let’s wait and see how it goes in Division 1 and SEC play. Can’t wait!!
I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.
kywineman
I agree with your assessment sir. All of our freshman appear to be more mature
than the class of last year. But you know at times I get a kind of queasy feeling in
my gut about how this group will perform.
Just have to wait and see.
Happy days are here again,
The skies are Wildcat Blue again,
We've got the best recruits again,
Happy days are here again.
Don't forget defense.
Right now, Brandon Knight has shown a far, far greater commitment to defense than wall ever did.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
i would say....
far greater than wall at the beginning of the season. if knight’s effort on defense were to remain unchanged (which is highly unlikely), then i would have to say wall’s effort was greater. but i am splitting hairs as i agree – at the start of the last season wall (and bledsoe) would stand upright whenever their man did not have the ball. knight seemed to be more in the defensive position when guarding off the ball
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Aug 19, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Turnovers was a weakness for all our guards last year....
and its reasonable to expect that Knight, Lamb and Liggins will do a better job of protecting the ball this year. These were only scrimmages, but I feel like while our current backcourt may not have as much physical talent as last year’s team, this year’s guards already impress me as having a better feel for making good decisions. They already seem more “under control”.
by chicagoblues on Aug 19, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Eamonn is a very good blogger ...
… and I am a big fan of his, even when we do not agree.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
LOL!
I certainly understand your point.
Brennan (who I really didn’t like much before) calling me naive’ on his blog didn’t sit well with me, and intensified my dislike for him. I do like Diamond Leung very much, though, and it was nice of Brennan to write such nice things about ASoB.
Back to comparing players: That’s just something many fans do, and really, it’s quite a complement to Knight to be in any way compared to Wall. They are both such great talents, playing the same position, in back-to-back years, it’s almost impossible NOT to compare the two. Not make judgements or condemn, simply compare. Cal and others can say, “don’t compare Knight to Wall” all they want, and I understand why, but for me it’s just natural to look at two great players side by side.
This Coach Cal look was voted for on facebook, I heard
Seems the fans thought he was dressing like a dentist in the first games. :-)
Glad the news is back in action too. I do love the BBDM. You are forgiven! :-)
Great core values list. Good going Charlie!
Christian’s karma? Heh!
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
Remember Dominique Ferguson?
Indianapolis player at the top of UK’s wish list once, but settled for Isian and FIU, he’s ineligible for first semester.
"People unfit for freedom -- who cannot do much with it -- are hungry for power. The desire for freedom is an attribute of a 'have' type of self. It says: leave me alone and I shall grow, learn, and realize my capacities. The desire for power is basically an attribute of a 'have not' type of self." — Eric Hoffer
what a difference a year makes
Fergusen was the crown jewel of Gillispie’s recruiting and he’s 58th in the class!!!
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Aug 19, 2010 12:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Gilchrist Not #1
ESPN says he is*. MaxPreps says he is*. But Sporting News says that he’s only #5 with Adonis Thomas is #1 (UK is on him) with Anthony Davis #2 and Marquis Teague #7.
* See my post under “The Canada Trip…”
"People unfit for freedom -- who cannot do much with it -- are hungry for power. The desire for freedom is an attribute of a 'have' type of self. It says: leave me alone and I shall grow, learn, and realize my capacities. The desire for power is basically an attribute of a 'have not' type of self." — Eric Hoffer
Bet it depends on final status of
kanter and vargas.
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Aug 19, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
The status
of Vargas is fine. He’s only not here because he’s taking summer classes in Miami.
by Clint Phelps on Aug 19, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Top 25 HS Player In 2008
Nothing special as Florida frosh in 2009, mostly due to injury.
Then JuCo A-A at Maimi Dade JC.
by FortyYearCatFan on Aug 19, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
KSR is reporting that that top 10 forward DeAndre Daniels has backed out of his committment to Texas and considering playing for the CATS this year.
Just wondering if there was any truth to this one or if it was even possible???
For what its worth ESPN has him as the #8 small forward (6’8" 190) …. "Daniels is a skilled small forward with excellent size and length. He runs the floor with great speed on a consistent basis where can beat defenders to the rim. Daniels can hit the three off the catch from a kick out pass or ball reversal … "
Definitely sounds like a fit for out offense
He's 2011 Recruit
Can’t play THIS year.
by FortyYearCatFan on Aug 19, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
a2d2
I read the url you posted. Sure sounds good. No reason he shouldn’t be cleared especially displaying the initiative to make up the semester he missed.
This is the kind of young man we need at UK.
Go Cal.
Happy days are here again,
The skies are Wildcat Blue again,
We've got the best recruits again,
Happy days are here again.
He was # 26 in the Rivals 150 in 2008 (2 spots ahead of DeAndre Liggins)
4* PF…proficient all around. Originally committed to UF before going to junior college.
I think it’s safe to say that he would be the best (or 2nd best) player on any other SEC team.
by mrmondaynite on Aug 19, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I think that over states what is expected of him.
He struggled his one season at UF, but he was battling an injury the whole time.
He certainly could be a very good player. He would not be one of the top players at UF, UT or a few other teams this year.
UK Starts Classes Soon
Vargas better hurry up north.
by FortyYearCatFan on Aug 19, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
vargas has to graduate...
given his academic performance at juco, it should not be an issue. but it is not done yet
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Aug 19, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
memphis wildcat
This is true. I read somewhere and can’t remember where that he really, really played well in JUCO and is ranked high. That’s why Cal wants him. He’s got something going for him because Cal doesn’t offer scholarships for nothing. He’s still got to graduate though as you pointed out.
Happy days are here again,
The skies are Wildcat Blue again,
We've got the best recruits again,
Happy days are here again.
Tru, if you haven't seen my tech question in FanShots,
Do you know if SBN changed the subject line format(?) for comments? It used to remember my keystrokes. It was very handy for game threads. I am not sure when it changed (could have been deactivated with an update from my browser), but it worked during the NCAA tourney.
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
C....A....T....S....Cats!....Cats!....Cats!
I managed to solve my problem Tru. See ^ ;-)
I was trying to eliminate the cause. Thanks.
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
We are about to see much more of John Calipari and the DDMO
and it is going to REALLY be fun. If we can keep that kind of a pace up all season long that we showed up there in Windsor, our opponents are going to be draggin themselves up and down the court in the second half of games. More seasoned coaches are going to know how to manage their TO’s really well, but even with all of the TO’s that were called up there, those games went very very fast. A lot of teams will be very unhappy with playing that type of a pace against us.
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
I am not convinced that we will be effective with this offense against a decent zone.
Especially if we don’t shoot better. Regardless, until it is proven that we can get shots in the lane against a zone, I remain cautiously optimistic.
Jack Bluto
Jack, if you had a half a glass of water, would you say the glas was half full or half empty? Only joking guy. Don’t take me seriously. LOL
Happy days are here again,
The skies are Wildcat Blue again,
We've got the best recruits again,
Happy days are here again.
I sort of disagree with Doyel on the hat issue
On the surface, yes, it is absolutely ridiculous that she could lose her job over a poor haberdashery choice. But apparently, this was not an isolated incident – repeated postings on her twitter/facebook page that she’d rather be in Florida, would rather be covering the Gators, etc. Further, it wasn’t just any hat on a weekend run to the grocery store – it was a team’s in-conference foe at the coach’s press conference! I think it’s entirely appropriate that the “house” radio station for the team has a policy that its employees not openly and brazenly support an opponent while acting as a representative of the station. Firing her for one transgression would be over-reacting; letting her go for a pattern of transgressions seems reasonable.
I of course don’t know the full story, but it seems a bit more complicated than Doyel suggests.
It's summertime - go Reds!
It is more complicated and it isnt.
Doyel has this history of oversimplifying everything so anything he writes has to be taken with a grain of salt. And I don’t necessarily buy his “jumping to the defense of a colleague” position either. He knows what makes good press and being politically correct does.
First off, common sense was left outside in the car when this all happened or it never would have been an issue. Unless you are the opposing team’s beat reporter trying to get a quote, you don’t show up in an opposing hat at a press conference in collegiate football, or any other press confernece for that matter. To quote the immortal Jerry Clower,Mississippi State Alum and comedian extraordinaire, “I don’t know how they let anyone don’t know no more than you get in this university”. She should have known better.
Apparently etiquette classes are no longer required at ANY school, nor did her parents teach her some of the more important facts of life like not crapping where she eats.
Having said that, unless her employer gave her direct orders on how to dress, and how NOT to dress for her job, she has the right to take them to court and sue either for her job back, or damages. I am not sure how she gets a judge or jury to agree with her plight in Arkansas, but hey, stranger things have happened.
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
It wasn't just the hat that got her fired
I think that is the point you both are making
But that is how it is being portrayed, which is wrong. Of course, why would the media be interested in the truth!
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
Just to your last point
She is probably an “at will” employee (as are most people), such that she can be fired for this reason or no reason at all (except discrimination as legally defined, of course). So I doubt she has an actionable claim.
/not a lawyer, just know how to fire people
It's summertime - go Reds!
Unless Arkansas has some unusual laws protecting employees (and I really doubt that)
NYCCats is correct.
Team hat choice is not a protected interest under any anti-discrimination laws at the Federal level or in any southern state I know. Maybe in California.
Dumb
I just thought it wasn’t very bright of her to wear a Gator hat to an Arkansas press conference, especially considering she’s working for an Arkansas affiliate. Petrino probably made too big of a deal out of it, but hey, I don’t really blame him.
Ken Howlett
Ken, seldom do I disagree with you. However, I must make an exception here. That woman has a right to wear a hat anywhere where hats are allowed. She broke no rules and no laws.
I’ll bet she even thinks that she still has a few rights guaranteed under the constitution of the United States of America. How dare her!
I know a little about Arkansas fans. I lived in Texas for 25 years and was an Arkansas fan. I couldn’t keep up with UK so I supported the Hogs. Those people aren’t just fans, they’re insane. I went to the Arkansas vs. TCU game in Ft. Worth in 1967. I thought I had stepped back into the 12t/h century.
Never experienced anything like that in my life. Of course all people from Arkansas aren’t crazy.
Many are very nice people. As for Petrino, I blame him because he is supposed to be an example to that state. He really set a good one. Didn’t he?
Happy days are here again,
The skies are Wildcat Blue again,
We've got the best recruits again,
Happy days are here again.
Well,
you’re right, she has every right to wear the hat, I just think it’s not too bright of her to do so.
I will go to no great lengths to support Petrino (I think he’s a snake, so to speak), but, if I were coaching UK and a local reporter came to my presser with a UofL or Tennessee hat on … well, I guess I’d have fun with it rather than let it bother me, but some personality types aren’t so forgiving. And Petrino, from what I can tell, is all business, something the unfortunate young reporter didn’t know, but does now.
But, you are right, she had the right … I just don’t think it’s too bright of her.
Wear the wrong hat, hit the unemployment line
Doesn’t that seem a little nuts? She gets to go home and watch Oprah indefinitely on the taxpayer’s nickel for wearing the wrong hat? Didn’t I see Dom Pappa wearing a Windsor shirt on Sunday on a UK broadcast? I guess nobody up in Canada got the memo that he should have been fired for that. Of course Dom probably doesn’t fear his masters like they do (or will) down in that Arkansas newsroom.
by BlueCollarMan on Aug 19, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
+1 Dumb
Not sure she should have been fired. At least they should give her protective goggles when she eats with a fork. :)
No matter where you're at, there you are
Cutler In A Cards Hat
See my FanShot: Hogs Called — Gork’s Gone for another POV.
"People unfit for freedom -- who cannot do much with it -- are hungry for power. The desire for freedom is an attribute of a 'have' type of self. It says: leave me alone and I shall grow, learn, and realize my capacities. The desire for power is basically an attribute of a 'have not' type of self." — Eric Hoffer
Charlie Strong
My hat is off to you Mr. Strong. Excellent core values.
Happy days are here again,
The skies are Wildcat Blue again,
We've got the best recruits again,
Happy days are here again.
True
But it scares me – what people have to be told since, apparently, core values and consciences are absent, to the point of being passe.
hoboat33
On target. At their age they should already have been taught these values but many of them
haven’t. To their chagrin.
Happy days are here again,
The skies are Wildcat Blue again,
We've got the best recruits again,
Happy days are here again.
Technically, most of Strong's Core Values are not Core Values at all.
Core Values include Respect for Self, Respect for Others, Compassion, Honesty, Personal Responsibility, Friendship, Civic Responsibility, Willingness for Hard Work.
You don’t “Value” not carrying a weapon. Core Values form the decisions to not carry a gun, to treat women fairly, to not steal, to not do drugs.
Now, I know where Strong is coming from — he is trying to instill some personal accountability. Laudable.
But, if those are indeed his team’s “core” values… it is a very weak moral compass, indeed.
No matter where you're at, there you are
cincyblue
OK, I can agree with all you have stated. But how do you know that Strong doesn’t have the values you state in paragraph one?
Could you be prejudging him? Unless you are certain I wouldn’t think that you would say what you do in the subject line. However you do make some very good points
Happy days are here again,
The skies are Wildcat Blue again,
We've got the best recruits again,
Happy days are here again.
I wasn't arguing against Strong
Just trying to get semantics straight and as I wrote it, trying to wrestle with the fact that, if you’ve truly got to water “core values” down to, “treat women fairly”, something has gone wrong, somewhere.
Strong may have just chosen his words poorly. Right after that part of his speech he talked about requiring his players to perform community service. There you go, coach. That’s how you teach values.
A moral person does not beat up his girl friend because he might get kicked off the football team. He does it because of inner, core values such as respect for others, compassion, self awareness and self control.
But here also lies my concern with Strong’s words. If you’ve got a young adult who has to be told to eat his veggies or he won’t get to keep his ice cream, something went wrong, somewhere.
So I believe that you, davw83, hoboat and I are all on the same point (see above and below).
If Strong really wanted to speak to Core Values he should have listed
Integrity
Honesty
Self Control
Compassion
Respect of Other and Self
(among others)
and his guys should have known what he meant.
Let me say again, this is nothing against Strong. I applaud his community service requirement as I applaud Cal’s involving his team in Samaritan’s Feet. I’m hoping that his list was poorly worded and that he really didn’t have to begin forming his players into productive adults with “if you carry a gun, you don’t play”. And, I’ll say this too — my concerns with this topic go far beyond bashing U of L. I’ll save that for later :)
No matter where you're at, there you are
cincyblue
Once again I agree with everything you say. However teaching these values to our children is no guarantee that they will use them. But there is a difference between teaching and training.
To train someone to do a certain thing the trainer must have been trained. Otherwise he
is simply floundering around hoping he is right.
Happy days are here again,
The skies are Wildcat Blue again,
We've got the best recruits again,
Happy days are here again.
Pathetic
It’s pathetic that Strong has to tell his players not to do drugs, carry weapons, and be nice to women in the first place.
DEEETROIT BASKETBALLL!!!
The rumors of my demise have been greatly exagerrated
kudos on the excellent reference to one of the best Mark Twain quotes ever
That's what she said.
Heh.
The great ones never get old.
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