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Kentucky Basketball: Is Kentucky Getting Unfair Treatment?

Just to play the "What if?" game, let's just assume for a moment that the NCAA is actually doing what TMZ claims, and checking the bona fides of some current, past, and even future Kentucky players regarding relationships with agents that might reveal some arrangements by the players that were/are against NCAA rules in their dealings with agents.

Is this unfair?

Chip Miller examines this question on his blog the other day:

So the question, is the NCAA unfairly targeting Calipari and UK? Probably not.. Does it look that way? Absolutely… Articles have stated that the NCAA tends to target high powered recruits like a John Wall, Brandon Knight, Enes Kanter, DeMarcus Cousins, Eric Bledsoe, Marquis Teague. Any of those sound familiar?

I think that hits the mark pretty well.  I appears to be unfair, given what we've read, but first of all, it probably isn't happening, and second of all, it wouldn't necessarily be unfair if it was.

Why?  I'll explain after the jump.

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The NCAA is in the business of enforcing the rules spelled out in the NCAA bylaws on its member institutions.  I think we can all agree that when it comes to agents trying to insinuate themselves into the lives of high school players, the high probability is that they are not sleazing their way into the lives of 3-star or even 4-star players.  Why?  Because the odds are very long that these kids will wind up in a position to make them some serious cash down the road.

No, agents that are interested in getting a leg up on a future NBA player are going to go for the big dogs, the five stars, the studs that Kentucky fans have, up until the last two years, long lamented the lack of at UK.  The high-profile players are the ones where the sneaky, wicked agents and hangers-on are likely to try to convince the player that it is in their best interests to break the rules and make an agreement with them, that what the NCAA doesn't know won't hurt them.

Willie Sutton said it best when asked why he robbed banks -- "Because that is where the money is," he allegedly claimed.  Why would the NCAA look so closely at Kentucky?  Because that's where the 5-stars are going, and they are infinitely more likely to have agent involvement than the 3-stars recruited by Butler or Western.

So again, we get to ask the question, "Is it fair?"  Yes and no.  Yes if they are also looking at the likes of Duke, North Carolina, Kansas and Ohio State as well as Kentucky.  But if they are looking at Kentucky in isolation, I think an argument can be made that it is unfair, biased, and perhaps unethical.

So then the question becomes, "Do you trust the NCAA to do the right thing by its member institutions when it comes to fairness?"

I can almost hear the heads exploding across the entire USA on that one.

Don't blame the NCAA for looking for trouble where they are most likely to find it.  Feel free to blame them if they are not being fair and equitable in that approach.

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Fair: A Detestable Word

Not only am I repelled by the word fair (and consequently, unfair, as well) but I’m also quite distrustful. And primarily because it is beyond definition. For fairness, as beauty, is truly in the eye of the beholder (which is actually a paraphrase of Plato’s more accurate statement):

“Remember how in that communion only, beholding beauty with the eye of the mind, he will be enabled to bring forth, not images of beauty, but realities (for he has hold not of an image but of a reality)

Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart’s oft-quoted statement regarding the difficulty of defining obscene in which he concluded:
”I know it when I see it."

could equally apply to fairness. Or perhaps one could take the current accepted definition of obscene:
For something to be “obscene” it must be shown that the average person, applying contemporary community standards and viewing the material as a whole, would find (1) that the work appeals predominantly to “prurient” interest;

and assign it to fairness but then that brings up the whole discussion of what is an average person or which community standards. Asking a citizen of the BBN — certainly not average persons or an average community — whether anything affecting UK is fair or not is tantamount to the angels dancing on a pin head discussion.

(So U.S. voters did) "The gazing populace receive greedily, without examination, whatever soothes superstition and promotes wonder." - David Hume

by Wild Weasel on Jul 5, 2010 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I think here

we can define fairness as evenly applied. When it appears that some programs bet a “by” while others pay dearly, we can say it doesn’t seem fair.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on Jul 5, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those Who Receive A Bye

(So U.S. voters did) "The gazing populace receive greedily, without examination, whatever soothes superstition and promotes wonder." - David Hume

by Wild Weasel on Jul 5, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair.....

No discussion needed. Since angels are ethereal, as many as want, can get on the head of a pin. Very good point though WW.

Happy days are here again,
The skies are Wildcat Blue again,
We've got the best recruits again,
Happy days are here again.

by alwaysblue on Jul 8, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this is right

The NCAA has finite resources and the optimum use of those resources is to concentrate them in those places where there are most likely to be violations. Calipari has brought Kentucky to the head of that list.

I expect that we’ll have reports and rumors of investigations every year for as long as Cal is coach and probably for a few years after his time at UK has ended.

It has nothing to do with hate or jealousy or conspiracy, it is simply one of the costs of building a team the way Cal – and other coaches – have chosen.

3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.

by JLeverenz on Jul 5, 2010 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I think this is right.

Why?

Happy days are here again,
The skies are Wildcat Blue again,
We've got the best recruits again,
Happy days are here again.

by alwaysblue on Jul 7, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't this just a byproduct of the NBA rule ..... just so happens that Cal is the best

at getting the top prospects … so they get the most scrutiny …. if we had the 53rd best recruiting class and some of the guys were marginal who would care?

No trust for the NCAA here ….

by ukcris on Jul 5, 2010 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Isn't this.....

I agree. Wow! Never seen so many fishing lines in the water! Always blue, Where are you?

Happy days are here again,
The skies are Wildcat Blue again,
We've got the best recruits again,
Happy days are here again.

by alwaysblue on Jul 5, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE NCAA

let them investigate all our incoming recruits and transfers….BUT… once the ncaa clears a player.. dont go looking for dirt and then if found dont punish a school for simply playing the guy they cleared.. but please investigate all day long

"It could be worst, i could be a UL fan, but mama raised me right"

by kentuckywild on Jul 6, 2010 12:40 AM EDT reply actions  

I have....

Good assessment. I agree. When they do that it causes a certain amount of doubt in any fan’s
mind in any highly regarded program. If they clear’em, then play’em. And by all means, leave them alone.

Happy days are here again,
The skies are Wildcat Blue again,
We've got the best recruits again,
Happy days are here again.

by alwaysblue on Jul 7, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agent Questions TMZ Report

Louisville’s Jim Ellis has doubts about validity and details of TMZ report of UK players being investigated.

(So U.S. voters did) "The gazing populace receive greedily, without examination, whatever soothes superstition and promotes wonder." - David Hume

by Wild Weasel on Jul 6, 2010 8:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I think the unfair treatment comes from the media when it comes to UK and Cal

Memphis was treated unfairly by the NCAA in the Rose situation.

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...

by btcoop71 on Jul 6, 2010 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

I think....

They sure were. NCAA was playing “Now you love, now you don’t.” No consistency=unfair
judgement. I know it just slays human nature but what’s fair/unfair for one must be the same for all. That’s fair play.

Happy days are here again,
The skies are Wildcat Blue again,
We've got the best recruits again,
Happy days are here again.

by alwaysblue on Jul 8, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Enforcement vs Regulation...

The NCAA does an adequate job in enforcing rules, but in my opinion needs to improve their performance in the regulatory area..for example the Clearing House. I see that function as regulatory in nature and if they were committed to providing the member schools with a viable product, the work output from the Clearing House could be trusted..just ask Memphis! I realize that the NCAA is short-staffed in that area, but they do make a lot of $$ and I’m sure that the members would support a larger budget, staff and commitment to produce a “clearance” that is in fact a clearance. When the organization chooses to disregard the rulings from one of its regulatory agencies and jumps directly to punishment to a member, I think they have undermined their own credibility. Of course I realize that I may not understand all that goes into their decision making process??

by BlueOrion on Jul 6, 2010 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Enforcement.....

That’s right. And once they approve a player don’t come along and undermine their own Clearing House. I don’t hate the NCAA, I would just like to see them get it together. Good post.

Happy days are here again,
The skies are Wildcat Blue again,
We've got the best recruits again,
Happy days are here again.

by alwaysblue on Jul 7, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Long time ago.

As a teen, living in Parkland in 1954, I vividly remember hearing about Willie “The Actor”
Sutton and his bank robbing expertise. He was one of the most successfull bank robbers of the middle 20th Century.

I also recall that alleged statement he made. So now this is why UK is under the microscope. “The Searchers” figure that is where the big stories will break. I hope with all my being that they are wrong. I’m going to let my “fanny” hang out and say that these accusations are false.

Can’t help it. Call it blind, misplaced loyalty. To paraphrase Mr. Oliver Wendall Holmes,
“My Cats, right or wrong.”

Happy days are here again,
The skies are Wildcat Blue again,
We've got the best recruits again,
Happy days are here again.

by alwaysblue on Jul 7, 2010 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Heh.

Well, around here, we don’t take that view. When Kentucky is wrong, they get taken to the woodshed, and that will not change.

But that’s not really the point. The point is that you don’t strip-search little old Anglo-Saxon ladies when you are looking for Islamic terrorists. By the very same token, you don’t closely examine Utah Valley State’s men’s basketball program when you are looking for recruits that might be involved with agents.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Jul 12, 2010 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

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