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http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/roster1977-78.html These 1977-78 Wildcats remain the best UK team that I've seen. I was born in August 1951 so that covers nearly the past 60 years.

Yes, I know. Most observers (and UK fans) consider 1995-96 as the best UK team of that timeframe. But I prefer 77-78.

The 78 Cats had 3 players chosen All-American and 5 players named All-SEC. 10 players on the roster (of 14 total) were drafted by the NBA. 5 of them were Parade HS All-Americans.

All 5 starters averaged 10+ ppg (double figures) and shot 50+ % FG plus 70+ % FT. The team averaged 84 ppg and shot 54% FG plus 76% FT. Impressive numbers.

Those Cats defeated all 7 ranked teams on their schedule plus the best amateur team in the world (Soviet Union) in an exhibition game. The Soviet coach later said that UK was the best team he had ever seen. Not just that year. Not just college teams. The best team he EVER saw. 

They defeated the other 3 Final 4 teams. They defeated 5 straight Top 20 teams (and 3 straight Top 10 teams) in NCAA tourney play.

This was the team that Joe Hall and his staff built from several impressive recruiting classes in the 1974-75-76-77 timeframe. Even those years, there were some misses. Kenny Higgs went to LSU in 74. Bill Willoughby went to NBA in 75. Ricky Brown went to Miss St in 76. Jeff Ruland picked Iona in 77. Each was HS A-A and expected to land at UK.

Simply the best (and most powerful) UK team that I've ever seen play.

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I feel the love, 40

I was born in ‘47. But it’s hard to knock the ‘96-’97-’98 teams. Shoulda been a 3peat.

by bigbill992001 on Jul 25, 2010 1:30 AM EDT reply actions  

1997-98 Comparison To 1977-78

Just 1 A-A and 3 All-SEC selected. Only 3 HS A-A on roster. 4 players drafted by NBA.

Only 3 starters scored 10+ ppg. Only 1 shot 50+ % FG and 2 shot 70+ % FT.

Cats averaged 80 ppg and 48% FG plus 67% FT as a team. 12-2 versus ranked teams.

Did beat 4 straight Top 20 and 3 straight Top 10 teams in NCAA play. Only UK team to ever defeat 3 straight 30+ W teams.

But 1977-78 was >>> 1997-98.

I’ll give you 1995-96 as comparable but not 97 or 98 teams.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 25, 2010 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

1995-96 Numbers (For Comparison)

1 A-A and 3 All-SEC players. 7 drafted by NBA. 6 HS A-A on roster.

3 starters averaged 10+ ppg. 2 averaged 50+ % FG and 4 averaged 70+ % FT.

Team shot 49% FG and 71% FT. 9-2 versus ranked teams. Beat all 3 FF teams.

And beat 5 straight Top 20 ranked teams in NCAA play.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 25, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

sounds impressive

Wish I could have seen it, but I was a newborn in 1978—and I’m no spring chicken ;) Obviously the 96 team largely gets the fond recollection from the fans as the best because anyone under 40 is too young to personally remember the 78 squad—and for those older, it’s still just simply easier to remember 1996 than 1978. The forgetting happens to all teams in time, though—it’s alarming to me to consider that for a teenager today, 1996 would be as distant to their experience as 1978 is to mine.

All the more reason for us to win another championship with a mega-impressive team very soon!

by blue kentucky girl on Jul 25, 2010 7:53 AM EDT reply actions  

you're a whole lot springier than most of us on here there BKG.....

the biggest reason I think that 96-98 is easier to remember is that practically every game was televised by then. Back in 1978, the Cats being on TV was a special occasion. Used to live for the Saturday games against Indiana, Notre Dame, etc…..

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Jul 25, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another Recruiting Miss

Don’t forget Darryl Dawkins in 1975. As loaded as that ’78 team was, they were just a shell of what they could have been.

A 1975 recruiting class with Willoughby and Dawkins would have meant doom for that undefeated IU team that escaped us in Freedom Hall. That 1976 NIT championship could have been a 1976 NCAA title, even with Robey’s injury.

All this “one-and-done” nonsense is just the current version of a competition for talent that has gone on between UK and the NBA throughout history. When UK is in a recruiting groove, they don’t compete against other schools as much as against the NBA paycheck. Joe Hall had us there in the mid-70s.

by BlueCollarMan on Jul 25, 2010 8:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Yep, Almost Dawkins Too

After two subpar recruiting years in 1972 and 73, Hall (Hamilton and Dean) had UK recruiting at “top shelf” level in mid-70’s thru mid-80’s. Signed 25 HS A-A in 12 years (1974 thru 85).

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 25, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with ya forty

they were awesome, I got to see em play LSU in Rupp, and bunch of us went to the airport when they got in after winning the NC…what a party !!! …..I remember Joe B callin em the “foldin five” after back to back loses to AL and LSU

by Bluehound on Jul 25, 2010 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

LSU Game (Away) Especially

All 5 LSU starters fouled out but UK still lost, 94-93 in OT.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 25, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

1996 best ever uk team and

best college basketball team ever assembled

"UK isn't a choice, you're born bleeding blue"

by kentuckywild on Jul 29, 2010 7:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Perhaps On First Point

Not on the second.

The Alcindor or Walton UCLA teams were better. 205-5 and 7 straight NCAA titles in 7 years.

The Bobby Knight IU teams in 1975 and 76 were better. 1 loss in 2 years.

by FortyYearCatFan on Jul 29, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

since we are talking about the 96 team vs any other ONE year team

considering uk only had the 96 team all together for just one year due to injuries and graduations the 96 uk team would beat knights perfect iu team and any one of those ucla teams…. yea its not 90’s uk vs 60’s and 70’s ucla and iu its 96 vs what ever year you want… outside the uk fanbase the 96 team is widely regarded as the best team ever to win the title…. but then again without these teams ever playing saying any of these teams are better is just an opinion

"UK isn't a choice, you're born bleeding blue"

by kentuckywild on Jul 31, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Either Of The Walton UNDEFEATED Teams

And any of the Alcindor UCLA teams would beat 1996 UK most of the time.

In particular, the 1968 UCLA team was the best of them.

Whether IU 1975 (the better of those 2 teams) would beat 1996 UK is debatable.

They did beat UK 1975 by 24 points when both teams were healthy (Scott May).

by FortyYearCatFan on Aug 1, 2010 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

From ESPN (Clipped)

… are they one of the greatest teams of all time?

1. 1968 UCLA Bruins (29-1)

John Wooden led UCLA to a record 10 NCAA championships.
Hard to pick just one of the Lew Alcindor squads as the best, so we defer to John Wooden: “I’ve never come out and said it, but it would be hard to pick a team over the 1968 team.”

The Bruins, playing with an injured Alcindor, suffered a mid-season loss to Houston and Elvin Hayes in the Astrodome, but proved that was a fluke in the tourney semifinal, burying the Cougars 101-69. The final was also cake, a 78-55 win over UNC.

How’d they do it? To start, they had Alcindor, the best player in college basketball history, who averaged 26 points and 16 rebounds per game. Junior guard Lucius Allen, senior Mike Warren, Jr., Lynn Shackleford and senior Mike Lynn also averaged in double figures for the season.

2. 1996 Kentucky Wildcats (34-2)
Rick Pitino’s Wildcats were so good that they could have been a decent NBA team in 1995-96 — Antoine Walker, Tony Delk, Walter McCarty, Derek Anderson and Ron Mercer would all be first-round picks, and Mark Pope was a second-round draft choice.

Rick Pitino is one of four coaches to win NCAA titles at Kentucky.
Even though Kentucky lost two regular-season games, they established themselves as one of the all-time great teams by destroying the competition in the Big Dance, winning their six tourney games by an average of 21 points.

The Wildcats were, by far, the deepest team in recent college basketball history, with so many stars that some were amazed that Pitino was able to keep it all together.

“Rick’s done a phenomenal job,” Providence coach Pete Gillen said. “I mean, how does he keep Ron Mercer happy playing 12 minutes a game? This guy was maybe the No. 1 high school player in the country last year, according to some magazines or newspapers or gurus. Rick’s got to be the greatest psychologist since Sigmund Freud. He’s my idol. He could sell freaking snow to the Eskimos. It’s unbelievable.”

3. 1976 Indiana Hoosiers (32-0)
Over the two seasons that culminated in their 1976 national championship, the Hoosiers, coached by the ornery Bob Knight, went 63-1.

Bob Knight? Ornery? Nahhh.
To win the title in Philly, Indiana, behind a combined 51 points from Scott May and Kent Benson and a great all-around performance by Quinn Buckner, defeated Big Ten rival Michigan, 86-68. To get to the final, Indiana had defeated the 1975 national champion UCLA Bruins.

On the season, Indiana outscored opponents by an average margin of 17.3 ppg. May, Benson and Buckner were All-America selections in both 1975 and 1976, with May being named the NCAA Player of the Year.

“The win also should stuff a basketball down the mouths of the many doubting-Thomases across the country both in the press and on television who downgraded the Hoosiers talent,” wrote Dick Mittman in the next day’s Indianapolis News. “Sports Illustrated writers rooted against Indiana for two straight days. But in the final 20 minutes last night the Hoosiers became a Mafia in Sneakers.”

4. 1972 UCLA Bruins (30-0)
The Walton Gang swept through the regular season without a challenge, winning by an average margin of 32 points per game. Besides Walton, the young team also featured future first-round draft picks Keith Wilkes and Swen Nater, and Henry Bibby, who’d play nine solid NBA seasons.

From 1972-74, Bill Walton led UCLA to an 86-4 record and two national titles.
The Bruins were so good that Walton was disappointed about his team’s 81-76 victory over Florida State in the NCAA title game.

“I’m really embarrassed,” Walton said. “I can’t believe how bad I played. I’d have to say it was one of my worst games. We should have beat these guys with ease. I guess I should be happy that we won, but, in all honesty, I’m not.”

by FortyYearCatFan on Aug 1, 2010 7:56 AM EDT reply actions  

sorry man but the game evolved way to much by 96

the 96 team was faster, more athletic, deeper and our defense would crush ucla.. the style of play uk played then still today would be very effective ucla not to much the 96 in my opinion is the best .. you are to caught up in ucla dominance of the time frame to see 96 uk would drop them .. uk would rain the 3’s on them and the defense would smother kareem .. just evolution,, in another 5 to 10 years the will develop more and the 96 team will be dropping in the ranks

"UK isn't a choice, you're born bleeding blue"

by kentuckywild on Aug 4, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

UCLA Teams Were Deeper Than UNLV Of 20 Years Ago

Swen Nater hardly played at UCLA but was a high round NBA draft pick as UCLA sub at C.

by FortyYearCatFan on Aug 4, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

unlv...lol please

they were a flash in the pan… luckly for them uk was rebuilding

"UK isn't a choice, you're born bleeding blue"

by kentuckywild on Aug 13, 2010 6:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't Agree At All

The UCLA teams of the late 1960’s and early 1970’s are among the most highly skilled and athletic college basketball teams ever.

They also had 3-point bombers in the lineup – Mike Warren and Lynn Shackleford to name 2.

by FortyYearCatFan on Aug 4, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol sorry man but todays basketball athletes

are faster, stronger and just plain better… ucla was great in that era but the 96 cats could do anything they could do but better… ucla had 3 pt bombers…lol nothing like the cats… heck their wasnt even a 3 pt shot for most those teams

"UK isn't a choice, you're born bleeding blue"

by kentuckywild on Aug 13, 2010 6:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

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