Kentucky Basketball: Izzo Stays Put, Rumors Shift to Calipari
by Glenn Logan on Jun 16, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
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PrintSo here we are, back at square one.
Yesterday, Michigan St. Spartans head coach Tom Izzo held a press conference and declared himself "here for life at Michigan State." I guess you know, ladies and gentlemen of the Big Blue Nation, what that means.
Yes, it means another round of rumors about John Calipari being offered the head coaching position for the Cavaliers, to be the Great Savior of Cleveland's franchise by using his friendship with LeBron James to convince him to eschew free agency and remain in Cleveland.
I have said it before, and I will say it again -- this will not happen.
It will not happen because it doesn't really make that much sense for Cleveland, and LeBron and Calipari are not that kind of friends. It will not happen because Cleveland will not be willing to offer enough. It will not happen because Dan Gilbert is not going to yield that kind of control to Calipari, who unlike Izzo, has no real connections to him or the Cleveland franchise. Let's face it -- Gilbert is not willing to trust Calipari as much as he would have Tom Izzo, fairly or unfairly.
While the deal reportedly offered to Izzo would be a substantial raise for Calipari, it isn't even in the ball park with the kind of relative money that the Celtics had to offer Rick Pitino to get him to leave. So Cleveland would have to talk sweet, probably to the tune of $10M/year and control of player personnel before Calipari would even bat his eyes in their direction.
It shouldn't happen and it won't.
For Calipari, it would make him look like little more than a prostitute to LeBron James' whims, and that is a really bad foundation for a coach-player relationship, even in the NBA. While there is plenty of precedent for Calipari leaving a program for an upgrade, not once has he done it after only one year, and Coach Cal has been unambiguous about how much he wanted the job at Kentucky.
Rven if I am confident Calipari will not take the offer should it be made, I must tell you in all honesty that it is possible that he would. Cleveland with LeBron James is still an NBA championship contender, and even though Kentucky fans would like to believe that nothing holds more sway than the prospect of an NCAA title at Kentucky, we may all be dead wrong about that. It is possible that Calipari would consider an NBA title more rewarding.
But I doubt that for reasons that make a lot of sense, even if they may be wrong. Calipari has labored for years in the college coaching ranks to come within a couple of free throws of an NCAA title (albeit one that would have been vacated because of Derrick Rose's alleged cheating on his SAT). Coach Cal has had to suffer for years at the hands of his critics over the two vacated final fours, and now he has a chance to recruit some of the greatest talent in NCAA history and make a real go at a championship -- his way, on his terms.
In Cleveland, everything would be on LeBron James' terms. The championship would not be Calipari's, it would be LeBron's. Calipari represents a band-aid, a rent-a-coach, because once James is sewn up for a long-term deal, what do you really need Calipari for? He would be immediately on the clock in Cleveland, and he might not even get a Mike Brown chance if he misses his first year. This is the NBA after all, and all that matters in the NBA is winning a championship. Division title? Who cares? Win the East? That just means you lost the finals.
Remember, Calipari has already been there in the NBA and done that, and he does not recall it fondly.
You will see rumors of Calipari to Cleveland. Don't buy them for a second.
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Oh Goody.......more rumormongering, more trolls, more speculation, and more bile being spewed
from the mouths of ignorants……….In other words, another day here in paradise!
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
I think if LeBron had signed a new deal with Cleveland, Izzo would have left
I watched some of Izzo’s press conference last night….apparently a lot of MSU fans were really mad at him.
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
They have no right to be. Izzo has been a Godsend for that program. They ought to thank their
lucky stars they have him. It kills me how people get that way. People here when Pitino left, raising Cain because he went to go coach Boston….give me a break! Pitino did wonders for UK. We paid him and he did an outstanding job while he was here. He won, ran a clean program and put UK back on the map after previous disasters. Izzo has pretty much done the same thing up there, and people want to chastize him because he looked at another job that would have made him set for life?
There is a difference in having pride in your program and being a class A jerk. And we have more than our share here in the Bluegrass, so we ought to be able to spot them a mile away.
People need to wake up and realize that coaching is no different than all of this conference realignment stuff going on. They work to earn money. If someone makes them a better offer there is no shame in looking at it, or even in taking the job. Everyone freaked out how Pitino went to Louisville when he left Boston. I don’t blame the man for that. If you cannot be at Kentucky, why not go to the next best thing? As long as these coaches give it their all when they are at these schools then they have every right to walk away when they so choose. You look at what Calipari has done over the last year. No one can keep this kind of a pace up for more than 5-8 years, no one. I will be amazed if Cal is here more than 5, but I will be thankful for what time he is here, because I have never had more fun in my life.
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
MSU fans will get over it when Izzo takes them (us) to the Final Four again in 2011.
(UK will always be my #1 team, but I did also earn a degree up in East Lansing.)
Most of the anger had more to do with how Izzo handled the process, rather than the fact he was looking. I think most people understand the desire to look at other opportunities, and in the long run people wouldn’t have been too upset if he had left for Cleveland. The problem was that he was refusing to talk about it, refusing to talk about where in the process he was, refusing to even publicly acknowledge that he was looking, refusing to answer questions. But the anger won’t last — most of it’s already in the past.
ALLBLUCAT
Thumbs up ‘CAT. Although you may think I’m a jerk, I dislike Pitino because he lied to the
program, the fans and the players. No amount money can justify what he promised and then did.
Sorry but this has to do with him as a person and not as a coach.
Big Dan Issel......The Best there is.
youre entitled to your opinion, and I understand some of the animosity
I just feel like the man did everything we asked of him and more while he was here.
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
ALLBLUCAT
Thanks for the latitude. And he did what he was hired to do; while he was here.
Big Dan Issel......The Best there is.
Agreed...
A person who lies about ANYTHING, but esp. to Kentucky fans is written off in m mind. Sure, he did a awesome job here, but be a MAN and say “Ya, know, ive enjoyed my time here, its been great, but i have other dreams to chase”…do/say something like that and we shake hands and wish each other luck, UNTIL you sign on to coach Louisville..what a loser.
Lets get it on!!!!
by Magnoliacat on Jun 16, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Rose's 'alleged' cheating.
It’s not alleged. It’s been decided. He was determined to have cheated by the NCAA. Hence, the vacancies.
I think one needs to remember that Cal could pull a Pete Carroll, too. That is possible.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 16, 2010 8:59 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
We are not really going to start this one again are we?
It is only going to lead you you whining about us ignoring reality, and us pointing out that you have no idea what reality really is……
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
What would Calipari have to
run from? It is known, now, that the Educational Testing Service canceled Derrick Rose’s SAT test. But did Calipari orchestrate that? Did he send someone to take the test for him? The answer is a resounding NO. So answer me HozeKing, why would Calipari pull a Pete Carroll when he has nothing to run from?
Is it true that Calipari recruits high profile players? Yes. Does he actively seek out players who have “red flags”? That seems ridiculous so I would say NO to that. Does he operate or coach to solely bring down the school where is currently employed so that a winning season could be vacated? This is the point to where you should pay attention because that last question makes no sense EXPECT to you. Everybody else would NO to that question but you seem bound and determined to prove that question correct. And for the life of me, I cannot figure out why….
Are you just answering your own questions?
Or supposed questions from ‘me’ that I never asked.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 16, 2010 5:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I have one for you
The NCAA did not determine that Rose cheated. They determined that he was ineligible because he failed to respond in timely fashion to inquiries from ETS, and ETS invalidated his test score.
ETS could reinstate Rose’s test score and the NCAA could re-determine his status. They could restore Memphis’ season wins. They can do any and all of that because none of this has any real legal standing, it’s just a matter of the bylaws of a mutual agreement.
Now, if somebody gets damaged, if somebody gets standing to sue in real court, then there could be a limit to what the NCAA can do.
Now try this on for size: UK and UL are part of the same university system. In a sense they are two campuses of the Kentucky higher ed system. So the legislature, in an effort to make more money for the system through athletics, could order UK and UL to participate in a single independent basketball television network.
We could make you guys sew a little bitty “K” on the bottom of your jerseys.
Decided by who?
You?
Even the NCAA declined to make a determination.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Glenn Logan on Jun 16, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I certainly didn't take away their victories or Final Four history.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 16, 2010 5:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
HozeKing
Alas and alack! That leaves the poor U of L fans with nothing else to do but dream and drool. Can’t blame ya’ll though Hoze. When one at the bottom of the mountain is looking up at the ’King’s" castle, having visions of climbing to the top, it’s understandable.
Big Dan Issel......The Best there is.
That is the entire issue Hoze......they can do whatever they please and dont have to prove a thing
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Umm ...
… Let’s keep our facts straight, shall we? The NCAA declared him ineligible because ETS did. ETS did so because he had an inconsistency that he refused to clear up.
The decision was not made by anyone that he cheated.
Let’s keep our facts facts, and our allegations allegations.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
You want facts, huh?
Sure facts are fine, but so are drawing logical conclusions. The reason that Rose didn’t reply and refuse to cooperate is because he (and maybe even Cal and Memphis) realized it would ultimately end in the finding of cheating. Why else would he refuse? Huh?
Let’s just try to stay real here and not take part of the bull*hit game that Rose played.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 16, 2010 8:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
your going by your opinion hoze
yes rose might have cheated and might not…it was alleged that he did but untill we know for sure then its speculation… we uk fans can speculate to… so sypher said pitino raped her but the louisville police found no grounds for prosecution(wasn’t surprised there) so even though we know pitino had sex with her and possibly knocked her up and paid for her abortion who is to say he didn’t rape her? (notice i said possibly knocked her up.. i deal in truths not hopes and speculation like most louisville and anti-uk fans do) everyone can speculate all they want but untill any of you sad pathetic uk haters have proof of any uk or calipari wrong doing then just stick to what you guys do best… envy
by kentuckywild on Jun 17, 2010 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Well ...
… in answer to your question, the ETS sent the requests for clarification to his parent’s home, not to him. It is possible that he did not see them before the ETS made their final determination.
Rose’s later failure to cooperate were based on recommendations from his legal counsel, which makes sense. He had no reason, after being drafted, to deal with the issue.
My question is, how do you reach the conclusion that Cal or Memphis "realized it would ultimately end in a finding of cheating?" That doesn’t make sense. Why would a school or a coach knowingly play an athlete if they really believed he had cheated? They wouldn’t, because they didn’t know. To wit:
The report also says the school had no proof the SAT was fraudulent until notified by the Educational Testing Service that the player’s score had been canceled. That letter came May 5, 2008, after Rose’s only season at Memphis.
The NCAA public report indicates that the IG of the Chicago Public Schools notified Memphis of alleged improprieties in the test Rose took in Detroit sometime early in the season. Memphis investigated that:
The institution [Memphis] began an independent investigation related to the allegations involving student-athlete 1 which included a November 2007 interview of him. The institution was unable to substantiate the allegations of academic improprieties involving student-athlete 1 and the institution cleared him to compete with the men’s basketball team during the 2007-08 season.
In other words, after clearing Rose in November, the next thing Memphis heard was that his score was invalidated, in May after the season was over. ETS did not notify the school of its attempts to contact Rose. Note that ETS’s only indication of possible fraud was handwriting analysis, and they did not notify the school of their concerns until after the season was over, in the form of a notification of invalid test score.
So once again, we see you employing a logical fallacy in trying to indict Calipari (in this case, a simple ad hominem). Neither the school or Calipari knew of any improprieties except as alleged and cleared by the University independent investigation in November until after the season was over.
It is also possible, and even likely, that Rose was not himself aware of the ETS request until after the ETS invalidated his SAT score.
In the final analysis, there was no proof that he did not take the test other than handwriting analysis, which even ETS does not consider dispositive. So it remains an allegation, not a fact.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
If you want to fool yourself in concluding Rose didn't cheat, fine.
First I didn’t conclude Cal was part of that which is why I used the word ‘maybe’. Yea, sure anything is ‘possible’ in the absence of Rose’s reply to the questions. Heck, it’s possible that he is really a hidden Rhodes Scholar and he was on a trip at that vacation destination, Detroit. It is possible that people visit their fantastic beaches. I refuse to get into your tortured point-by-point arguments. It’s beneath me and should be beneath you.
I do conclude that Rose cheated. In essence, the NCAA ultimately concluded that he cheated. I find it curious why this UK blog and others twist and bend trying to defend the actions of a cheat….Rose. He has nothing to do with UK. Cripes, give it up already.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 17, 2010 8:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I believe Rose cheated.
I just dont believe Cal knew about it.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Jun 17, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair position.
But how could Cal reconcile the questions on why a kid from the south side of Chicago go to Detroit for the test, and with limited means, how did he get there. On top of those two critical questions, how do you explain the big test score jump?
It’s not just one question, it’s the series of questions that should have been asked…..unless, of course, you strategically decided to avoid those questions.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 17, 2010 11:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Correct me if I am wrong, but didnt Rose travel extensively playing AAU ball
throughout Illinois, Michigan, Ohio and Indiana? and a few other places I believe? Who is to say this was not during an AAU trip? I mean you bring up travel, but from what I understand Rose was a very well traveled young man
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
And as far as test scores go, is there not a service that advertises
itself as the place to go for significant increases in ACT/SAT scores for those having trouble with the tests? I am not saying he used these services mind you, but could he have not getten help in preparing to retake the test?
I know you are making your case here, but there are plausible explanations in every question that has come up. I realize he has not provided those answers as of yet, but other than ETS having “concerns”, no one has raised much of a case yet.
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
gotten help.....sorry, trying to have lunch and catch up at the same time
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Here's a 'plausible' explanation.
He never went to Detroit and someone represented on the test & forged his signature.
See how easy it is to draw a logical conclusion?
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 17, 2010 2:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
but the "plausable explanations" go both ways.....
yours is no more “plausable” than mine….
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
don't get me wrong, I know you are taking the
prima facia on this, but you have to forgive me if I see your view as “tainted” in much the same way you see mine
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Not all plausible scenarios are equal.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 17, 2010 2:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
if unproven they are .......at least in the standing
of being facts…..
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Okay.
Let’s start with the fact that the signature was not his on his test. Of course, I guess it’s plausible that he decided to sign with his bare left foot. Good grief.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 17, 2010 5:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Once again ...
… that is an allegation, not a fact.
The bottom line is, you simply can’t distinguish between facts and beliefs. It seems to be beyond your comprehension. I suppose I’ll have to make allowances for that. :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
To quote my favorite president:
There you go again. An allegation becomes a FACT if the governing body determines it so. That was the basis for the questions that needed answered. Refusal to answer is an admission of guilt.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 17, 2010 9:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Even the ETS did not see it so.
So even by your definition, it is still not a fact.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
When I sign a stack of checks, no two look alike.
In fact, the ones at the end don’t even look similar to the ones at the beginning. I’m not saying someone else did or didn’t take the test for Rose. I’m saying that I’m intelligent and honest enough to admit that I don’t know the facts and see no reason to come up with a theory and try to pass it off as fact.
I may be paranoid, but that doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
There is no reason to make more of a case.
The severest type of punishment was given to Memphis, Rose’s reputation was rightly damaged, and the only one to dance away ‘clean’ was the good ole’ coach. Just like Carroll and USC.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 17, 2010 2:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm getting tired of this...
….“the only one to dance away ‘clean’ was the good ole’ coach” metality. If folks such as yourself continue to smear his name do you think he is getting away clean?
(Now is when you make your decision, Hoze: So, do your words have no value and the coach is getting away clean or are your words worth something the coach isn’t getting away clean?)
But that's a fact, right?
I mean we are all about facts here, right?
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 17, 2010 5:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
First, make your decision - which is it?
(Now is when you make your decision, Hoze: So, do your words have no value and the coach is getting away clean or are your words worth something the coach isn’t getting away clean?)
And what “fact” are you referring to; you continue to throw things at the wall to see what will stick which leaves one wondering what arguments are (in your words) “fact” and what arguments are abandoned.
Hmmmmmm...... Big Surprise
No word from Hoze. Guess he moved on to some other amoebic fact. C’mon Hoze, put on your big boy pants and give us an answer.
Yea, there are services to help with ACT/SAT.
I am fortunate to live in one of the top 2-3 school districts in Illinois. We have numerous ones in town. Each is different but the one thing they have in common is the price…..expensive as hell.
They also don’t see or promise more than a 1-2 pt jump…..and that improvement is rare.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 17, 2010 2:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The reaosn I ask is that I had a nephew take an 8 pt jump from his first to his second.
He was a C student, who simply never thought he needed to be worried about his test score, and who blew off the first test because he did not want to be there.
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
His 'trip' to Detroit had nothing to do with an AAU game.
The answer, of course, is that he NEVER went to Detroit.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 17, 2010 2:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Okay...try this on for size.
If his AAU team made it financially possible to get him to Detroit, that would be a violation. But to your point we don’t really know because ROSE WILL NOT GIVE ANSWERS. Get it?
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 17, 2010 3:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
No one said the team made it financially possible....
I am simply saying that he could have been there for that reason and took the test while there….
And your last statement is as true as anything anyone has ever written on the subject. We really just dont know. Everything else is speculation and innuendo.
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Yea.
I guess it’s plausible that he took the test during half-time of his AAU game. Yea. Right. That’s the ticket.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 17, 2010 5:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Actually ...
It was a Bulls-Pistons game:
However, a source close to the Memphis program told Sporting News that when Rose was first going through the initial eligibility process, he told the school and the NCAA he had taken the test in Detroit because the Bulls were playing the Pistons in a playoff game, and members of his family had planned to attend. The source said Rose has insisted to former teammates and members of the Bulls organization that he took his own test, although he has made no public statement on the matter.
Come back when you learn to do a Google search. :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Hardy - har -har....
Seriously. If you believe that his family could afford NBA basketball playoff tickets, you have no idea of his prior economic situation or maybe the NCAA could look into that.
Oh….and I didn’t bring up the AAU ‘plausibility’. I made fun of it. Learn to follow the string of posts. It makes it more fun. :)
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 17, 2010 9:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I brought it up as a point of there being no knowledge of any evidence to prove that Rose did anything
You can assert that he did all you like, the same way I can assert that you sleep with sheep. Doesnt make either statement any more true than me saying it is 10:34 AM as I type this and not 10:34 PM
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Boy, you are really out there.
Don’t hurt yourself. I mean we would miss you and the total number of posts on this site would drop by half.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 17, 2010 11:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I may be out there.....but you have no proof I am wrong.....
And since you keep responding I assume we could eliminate the blog if you gave up posting the other half of the discussion
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
The key word here ...
… is “believe.”
It doesn’t matter what I believe. It matters what I can prove.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
"But to your point we don’t really know ..."
Finally, a fact!!!
I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.
I'm not sure I understand why those are critical questions.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Jun 18, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
If Cal was recruiting Rose
and the NCAA cleared him to play, why would it be critical for Cal to know (or care) where Rose took the test and why he chose to take it there?
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Jun 18, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn't say that.
I do believe that the odds favor Rose cheating, and if I had to say yea or nay, I would say yea.
But do keep in mind, just because I believe something does not make it a fact. That was my entire point.
You need to give it up, pal. You are defending something you cannot defend.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
"Cripes, give it up already."
Good advice, take it!
I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.
hey, I got an idea!
Why don’t we rehash the Rose/Calipari thing again? It’d be super fun and I don’t think any of us know the positions of the others!
by blue kentucky girl on Jun 17, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay.
I can agree with that if we take the words ‘plausible’ and ‘probability’ out of bounds when discussing either Rose or Bledsoe.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 17, 2010 5:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i wonder does this hoze guy
ever chat on louisville sites or threads or is he the same type of uk obsessed louisville fan i see daily around louisville … jeez man its very simple rose may or may not have cheated, calipari may or may not have know about rose and also pitino may or may not have raped that ugly troll of a woman.. point is your opinion like mine doesn’t make a bit of difference and a the logical decision you keep talking about is still an opinion you made with rumors mixed in with very little facts if any… try to move on with your life… who knows you might actually have fun talking ball with your fellow louisville fans instead of trying to annoy uk fans
by kentuckywild on Jun 17, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
also its funny how pitino has been
implicated in 8 violations as an assistant then years later accused of rape and paying for an abortion for his love child, he also has had 3 players in the last year get in trouble with the law but yet louisville fans have the actual nerve to call out calipari….LMFAO… please keep it up .. i love hypocrites
by kentuckywild on Jun 17, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
It's better ...
… not to change the subject and not to disparage Pitino. He definitely did some bad things, but that does not make anyone else good.
One argument that does not fly very well around here is the, “Yeah, my coach may be bad but look at yours!” argument. Forget about Pitino. He has nothing to do with this.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
i only pointed rick's flaws to see
what mr. hozeking would say about that .. i mean ever since calipari was hired this hozeking guy has basically been saying uk shouldn’t have hired him and its not worth the possible blow back but when confronted with his own coaches PROVEN misdeeds he has nothing to say. where is his objections to his coach at his school… i mean if he wouldn’t ever want calipari at louisville then why on earth would you want pitino? … funny thing is i live in louisville around damp taylor area and louisville fans are already calling for pitino to go but not because he is a possible rapist or cheater but because he had a bad year and is getting owned by calipari in the recruiting war…lol heck a few of my louisville fan buddies would get rid of pitino for calipari today, they are also doing what louisville fans do and now its "i don’t care about basketball, its all about football …lol
by kentuckywild on Jun 18, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
camp taylor
i guess using my phone to blog is a bad idea but im a busy man
by kentuckywild on Jun 18, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL WOW
HOZEKING HAS COMMENTED ON THIS SITE 2378 TIMES BUT ON CARDS CHRONICAL ONCE ….WOOOOW UK OBSESSED LIKE NO OTHER MAN
by kentuckywild on Jun 17, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I love it when people bring this up.
It’s the gift that keeps on giving.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 17, 2010 9:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Its a one year membership to the jelly of the month club
That’s the gift that keeps on giving the whole year Clark.
Sorry, carry on…..
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, is just a freight train coming your way...
lol i love when you
respond that way.. just admit it hoze you want to be a uk fan so bad it kills you… also no response to pitino actually being implicated in 8 violations and having 3 players in trouble with the law the last year.. oh and your coach alleged rape…lol yea ill draw some of your famous logical conclusions if you want but ill add my opinion in them like you do and try to pass it as truth… pitino cheated at hawaii, he raped syphilis, i mean sypher and his players seeing ricks disregard for authority decide to do what they want in a city where you can rape women is restaurants and get away with it because the investigators are fans…. wow hey i like these logical conclusions
by kentuckywild on Jun 18, 2010 6:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I agree.
I wish that we could just stop that line of commentary.
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i have an even better idea!
i think if we saw blue kentucky girl in some heels we’d forget all about this rose mess…;)
Well we have a new
member. At least blue Ky. girl has an admirer. Welcome
Happy Days are here again! Wildcat's have #1 recruiting class again!
I'm happy for Izzo.
I’m biased toward the college game, so I can’t imagine Izzo even entertaining the idea of leaving for the NBA.
And I look at pro basketball the same way the pro players look at it.
In other words, I don’t care until the playoffs.
I understand that coaches want to rise to the top of their professions, but if Izzo were to ask Pitino or Calipari, either of them could tell him that Pro & College Basketball are two different professions.
Regardless of what LeBron does, Izzo IS AT the top of his profession.
Random & Off Topic
I met DeAndre Liggins last night. He was super nice considering I may not have been in the best condition as I had been out watching the Lakers/Celtics hoping to celebrate a Celtics championship – if you know what I mean… Anyway, he was totally on the phone but got off to take some pictures with me and talk for awhile. I have to admit I totally thought he was Eric Bledsoe for way too long and was saying stuff like, “Youre one of my faves!” (Like I said not the best condition – lol!) After talking to him for awhile I did eventually figure out who it was I was actually talking to. Needless to say I was SUPER excited (and still am!) and I now have a ridiculously dark picture that could quite honestly be of me and anyone though I assure you it is DeAndre Liggins. :)
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Jun 16, 2010 10:26 AM EDT reply actions
So far no rumors about Cal to Cleveland
or anywhere else.
Does anybody have other info?
I think we lay this baby to rest and move on. Unless we don’t have anything better to do.
No matter where you're at, there you are
It will continue ...
… until Calipari says explicitly “I am not going to take the Cleveland job if offered.”
That he clearly has not done that means he is leaving the door ajar, even if just a bit. So long as that is the case, that will continue to be a thorn in our side.
My guess? Cal has no intention of leaving…until he does.
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AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have taught my kids to not play woulda-shoulda-coulda. Sure wish I teach that to you all.
I applaud Cal’s patience and his ability to stifle his frustration with the continual rephrasing of questions/situations just to get him to reanswer the same question he has already answered. Let’s move on folks – Cal is here, we have a great team to look forward to for the next two years at least and we have no need for hand-wringing and worrying about things that haven’t happened yet.
As for Hoze – we really need to ignore him. He loves trying to get under our skin and has no scruples as to how he does it. I am sure he giggles every time we get upset. Please try not to give him any satisfaction!
UKLOYAL
I believe you’re right. Reminds me of two dogs in the street. The big one starts a fight and the little one joins in. Then the big dog gets out of Dodge and watches the little one take the whipping.
Big Dan Issel......The Best there is.
I Still Think it's Possible
Although probably unlikely. But as someone else has already said,unless Cal comes right out and says he isn’t going anywhere,(and for me twitter doesn’t count),I think the door is open ever so slightly. And I will never agree with the hoze-man on much of anything but if the Bledsoe thing turns hot then running to the pros like a certain football coach out west is possible.
Another thing on Izzo. I think he would really like to coach elsewhere,preferably in the college ranks. I think the reason why he seriously thought about going to the Cavs was because if it didn’t work out there he could return to the college ranks. He just couldn’t pull the trigger on leaving Mich. St. which says a lot about his loyalty. And that is huge in this day and age in sports. I would take Izzo over ANY coach. I would have loved to see him coach the Cats.
Just came acroos this off-subject article (May 1989)
’’There’s no one in this businesss with more integrity than Rick Pitino,‘’ Pitino said when asked about the Hawaii sanctions. ’’I’m going to make my mistakes as a coach – every coach is going to make mistakes. But one thing you won’t have to worry about is cheating with Rick Pitino. It didn’t happen in Hawaii as far as I’m concerned.’’
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/05/24/sports/pitino-unfazed-by-past-infractions.html?pagewanted=1
To be fair ...
… I think Pitino has absolved himself of these transgressions by staying clean for so many years.
I usually mention them only to gig those who beat Calipari up. Cal has never been implicated in violations like that.
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