Kentucky Basketball: Is Bledsoe About to File Suit?
Is Bledsoe planning a lawsuit?
Matt Jones tweeted earlier:
Sources close to Eric Bledsoe's camp tell me he is planning a lawsuit against whoever released his transcripts to the New York Times Interesting
If this proves true, things are only beginning to get interesting. The parties in a civil suit will be able to issue subpoenas.
As James A. Wells, Assistant U.S. Attorney General remarked in Absence of Malice: "Wonderful thing, a subpoena." The plot thickens ...
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Good for him. About time someone started raising some
Cain in the other direction on this.
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by ALLBLUCAT on May 31, 2010 4:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
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I agree. Maybe the NCAA isn’t too big after all!
Happy Days are here again! Wildcat's have #1 recruiting class again!
I think it would be against whomever gave the info to the NYT, and at this point, no one from the NCAA is even admitting to
being involved in an investigation.
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Typical
I hope he does and wins the biggest game of his life… NYT can and will impune anyone and it is up to the individual to prove their innocence.. I just think it is wonderful the NYT is so corrupt that they were completely busted a couple of years ago and the mexican cell phone magnate from Mexico City had to bail their ass out…. just like CBS when the french company Viacom bailed their ass out… who bailed the HL out… when I lived in Lex they weren’t worth 2 dead flies and, based on Clay’s comments, I’d say they haven’t changed… They use facts to suit their purpose.. There seems to be something about the media, they can say as they want, and chalk it up to an “anonymous source”…
Good for Eric
Don’t let them run you down.
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
Illegitimi Non Carborundum
Don’t let the bastards grind you down!
"There is a rank due to the United States, among nations, which will be withheld, if not absolutely lost, by the reputation of weakness." --George Washington
Not to put a damper
on anyone’s holiday,but if you live anywhere east of Western Ky. you are about to receive a band of sever thunderstorms. Sorry!
Happy Days are here again! Wildcat's have #1 recruiting class again!
sitting here waiting on it oldcat.....lol.....looks like it might get hairy
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i'm all for him on this!!!
the NCAA has wielded too much power in their personal arena!!!…acting without oversite from anybody!!!…loving every minute of this one!!!…go get ’em Eric!!!
"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as much as you please."...Mark Twain.
KYCatwoman
You’re right! The NCAA has become a dictatorial association with just about unlimited power
because no one polices them except themselves.
I hope Eric pins the “tail” on the donkey.
Big Dan Issel......The Best there is.
forgot to mention NYT...
will they give up their “sources”???…they need to be included in this for sure!!!
"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as much as you please."...Mark Twain.
Not likely.
In a case like this, it would be extraordinary. Even in federal criminal cases, it is very difficult.
I would bet big money against.
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i agree...
the “sources” will not be divulged…but i’m also leaning to an anti-trust suit against NCAA, and impingement of Eric’s civil rights on both NCAA and NYT…hope Eric’s attorney is looking for blood in this one!!!
"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as much as you please."...Mark Twain.
Since we need something to laugh at......
I am paying off my bet to FortyYearCatFan with this photo
I doesnt get any worse than that!!!
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sorry gang....that is now fixed....please forgive the stupidity
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NO!
I want pushups!!! 100 – get down, I’ll count!
Keep that back straight!
I e-mailed it to Tru as well.....he can post it if he feels led to do so!!!.....lol
But I will also try to post it to my
Yahoo account
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Good for him!
If nothing else, his school records are confidential and shouldn’t be released without his permission. Isn’t releasing someone’s confidential records without their consent against the law?
I hope whoever did release his records is punished, but I’m not naive enough to believe that it’s going to happen.
"For southern girls, a football game is just like church. We get dressed up in our finest outfits, prepare a big lunch for family and friends, scream like the Holy Spirit is upon us, and spend hours praying for a miracle."
And this changes the circumstances around the $1200 and hyper-inflated GPA, how?
Seems to me that Eric would be better served on hiring a lawyer to defend him from the accusations….that is to say if there IS anything to defend.
I just don’t think this potential move is helpful to Eric or UK. In fact it may reveal something.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on May 31, 2010 9:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
the move is not about being helpful.....it is about being right and just......not everything is an absolute....
but I applaud the kid for having the stones to do it…..means he believes in himself that much….
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Oh, boy.
Just once I’d like to see someone hold ‘the kid’ responsible and question him and his actions…instead of the NYT, the NCAA, Pat Forde, the C-J, Jerry Tipton, society, health care reform, the designator-hitter rule, or man’s inhumanity against man.
The ‘everybody is against us defense’ and the ‘rules suck defense’ is not helpful and is sure as heck not protective of UK as an educational institute.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on May 31, 2010 10:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If the kid did something, then he needs to answer for it.
But so far, there has been no proof he did. If that happens, I will want him to answer for it
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by ALLBLUCAT on May 31, 2010 10:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You need 'proof' before you ask questions??
Wow. Naïve, gullible, with an non-curious mind is no way to go through life, son.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on May 31, 2010 10:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think
you’re a child molester and I’m going to be pursuing a very deep and intrusive investigation into your life. I hope you don’t mind. I don’t have proof but I’m very skeptical of you.
by Clint Phelps on May 31, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Classy.
But I doubt you have formal copies of my membership in NAMBLA, nor friends and/or landlord that has made statements that someone paid cash in my behalf for that membership.
Instead of wasting your ‘creative’ effort in being crass, I suggest you spend more time worrying about UK’s reputation. It’s more productive.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on May 31, 2010 11:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good one, Clint!!!
HozeKing should be afraid!!!
"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as much as you please."...Mark Twain.
This is over the top.
Please don’t say stuff like this, even in jest. It is inappropriate and provocative.
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Perhaps
next time I’ll just say thief then?
The guy comes here all the time and is over the top with his condescending tone and general arrogance. He only posts on topics that allow him to be negative and rarely contributes to a real discussion, and it’s rather sad. He clearly just wants to say the opposite of what others are saying just to be a complete asshole.
by Clint Phelps on Jun 1, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I know.
I blasted him for it, too. But let me handle that, I know he was provoking people.
It’s hard sometimes, but try to keep it civil, even when you want to rip provocateurs. Take the high road.
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Understood
I’ll control my mouth from now on. I apologize to everyone if I was over the top, including HozeKing.
by Clint Phelps on Jun 1, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
The next time you decide to get personal
find someone who won’t make a case for having you removed from this blog. Tru, you can consider this a formal request for his removal. If I want to be insulted for my beliefs I can go to a Louisville site.
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
by ALLBLUCAT on Jun 1, 2010 7:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Insulted?
My reply was wordplay from a line from the movie, Animal House. Relax.
I have a formal request not to take yourself too seriously. You know, like I didn’t when I was called a child molester.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 1, 2010 7:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And the line was fat, drunk, and stupid.......at least get it right......
and as fat as I may be, my drinking has never been a problem and my IQ places me well out of danger for the stupid label……
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For me, targeted insults are only effective when 'hitting close to home'.
Which is why I’m okay when others label me a provacateur.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
But I'm not.
Please do not provoke people. I thought I was clear on this.
Make whatever arguments you want, but don’t make it personal. Please.
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Well, sorry. I am still 'foggy'.
I just am not clear how I can offer a contrary view or another way of looking at an issue without being ‘provocative’.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
I have an idea.....just dont offer anything....
contrary or any other way…..and the rest of us will leave you alone…..
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Just offer the viewpoint ...
… and skip that massive amounts of extra cheese you like to lay on there, implying that the person you are responding to is mentally deficient.
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This bit of sarcasm is over the top.
Please get a grip, and drop the sanctimony. I’m getting very tired of having to tell you this stuff.
I’m having to scold other members, but the truth is, you are provoking them and I am sick of it. Your point is well taken, but your ridiculous “oh, boy’s”, “Wows” and similar sanctimonious pap are absolutely infuriating.
Stop it.
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...and being referred to as a child molester is not over the top????
Okay….no moe ‘wows’ and ‘oh,boys’ for me. I don’t want to insult.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Jun 1, 2010 7:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
just a suggestion here...
but if you click “action” there is a “flag” option for every comment. if you use it (and i mean “you” in a general sense) it allows the moderators to be aware of your concern about the post without continuing the debate about it.
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At this point ...
… there is no reason to question the kid or his actions. There is no intimation by the Times that Bledsoe knew about any of this.
It is not impossible, of course, that he did know. But the Times report is very careful about that point, and does not point fingers at Bledsoe himself, but at his high school coach and parent.
In fact, the Times specifically states that Bledsoe himself has a good reputation and was well liked. That doesn’t make him innocent, of course, but at the moment, only the adults appear to be potentially blameworthy.
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Just a thought...
but I’m not sure that Eric Bledsoe has much to defend, even IF his GPA was inflated and the coach payed the $1200. Seems like those are decisions the people around him made (I’m not saying he was ignorant of them). Fact is, he was a minor.
But, I do agree with you that this doesn’t change the GPA and the $1200. It just seems like his rights were violated, and he should stand up for himself in that matter.
"For southern girls, a football game is just like church. We get dressed up in our finest outfits, prepare a big lunch for family and friends, scream like the Holy Spirit is upon us, and spend hours praying for a miracle."
arguable point, but it raises an interesting question...
who is going to pay for his legal fight?
i’m pretty sure his family can’t afford it given the background that has framed the allegations to this point. i doubt the university is raring for such a battle with the NYT and i really doubt they’d let bledsoe speak publically about it if they were. if he goes it alone then wouldn’t anyone providing money or services for his case be liable to NCAA regulations concerning impermissible benefits?
bottom line… i’m having a hard time putting much stock in this. it sounds like one of his family was talking about getting a lawyer to sue and the news outlet phrased it in such a way to make it sound like a scoop.
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Let's see,
there is a pretty good chance that Bledsoe is coming into some money soon. Also, lawyers who think they have a pretty good case are prone to make a deal for a percentage of the award.
I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.
but that is a VERY thin line to walk in terms of compliance...
a lawyer waiving fees in lieu of a client’s expected largesse is extremely close to an agent signing a player for a cut of his pay. and any university with a serious concern about an ncaa investigation is likely to be very clear with the student athlete about the situation.
that said, if bledsoe seriously believes he has a case, there would seem to be nothing preventing him from taking action after he ends his career at kentucky. but the downside there is having an unpleasant legal battle with the preeminent newspaper in the country is likely to cut into his bottom line in terms of his personal saleability.
i’m not saying it can’t happen. i’m not saying it won’t happen. but i am saying it seems highly unlikely.
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Not to split hairs but...
Bledsoe has already seperated from UK. The NCAA closed the Randolp Morris loophole, so once he didn’t pull his name from the draft by the deadline he lost any remaining eligibility.
RIP Bryan S. You will be missed.
once again...
i am neither an expert on the situation or the legal issues at play. i’m just offering an observation as a (quasi) objective observer. i guess my expertise here is as a fan of a school absolutely paranoid about compliance issues.
[and my interest in this whole drama as an alabama fan is in terms of the inquiries about the HS coach whom we’ve had issues with in the past.]
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i think most of us would agree with you...
however, bledsoe is has no eligibility at uk anymore. were he coming back, the thin line you mention would be relevant.
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Jun 1, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
It would not be a lawyer waiving fees.
It would be a lawyer acting on contingency, typically with the lawyer taking 25%-40% of any damanges in the event Bledsoe recovered them.
With the exception of child custody cases, contingency arrangements are fully within the rules of professional conduct for attorneys.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
The $1200, doesn't change a thing
Even the GPA, doesn’t change anything. But if someone committed a crime in obtaining his transcript without his consent, then he has a case.
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
Maybe he is making the move
because there is nothing to be worried about revealing. I say good for him! If his transcripts werent to be released, that is breaking a rule. Everyone is all hyped up at Bledsoe and UK for allegedly breaking a rule, why should whoever leaked those transcripts get a pass?
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Jun 1, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
These are my feelings as well
Transcripts are private records and someone violated a law by leaking them.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Circumstanceds
remain unchanged. The $1200 remains an allegation. the GPA remains checked twice by the NCAA.
And regardless of what some writers are saying, the Rose situation is apples vs oranges to this
RIP Bryan S. You will be missed.
Is this the smartest move by Bledsoe?
Via Clay Travis: Eric Bledose suing them is the best thing that could happen to the NYT. They can use depos as further investigation. With Bledose under oath
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
That's what I like about Travis...
He’s an absolute and total idiot and as such continues to provide us with soft tosses.
1. Eric is well and truly away from any consequences accruing from this controversy.
2. His attorney will get discovery limited.
3. His State and Federal rights were violated – Guilt or innocence under some jive NCAA regulations mean less than nothing!
I should say ...
Guilt or innocence under some jive NCAA regulations mean less than nothing to the judge in the case. To us it will mean a LOT!
Bledsoe's allegation will bed that someone released his records.
The truth of the story is really irrelevent to the lawsuit. Bledsoe’s lawyers will likely move to limit discovery based on the issues.
Makes sense
Off Topic: Should I create a fanpost soliciting your opinions on DeMarcus Cousins or can we discuss it here?
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
DeMarcus Cousins = beast
Discussion over…..
j/k, create a fanpost for any questions you have.
RIP Bryan S. You will be missed.
I will create it tomorrow. I seriously need your guys opinion on him. I’m a Kings fan and Cousins looks like he’ll be drafted in their range.
"Even the Swedes are getting mad."-Randy Hahn
"It's very cozy in the sin bin."-Randy Hahn
Cuz
He quickly became one of my favorite Wildcats of all time. He gets a bad rap for having a “bad attitude.” He is goofy, and some writers take that as being aloof.
Just remember this. When he was given the ball down low, there was no one in college basketball that could stop him. Period.
RIP Bryan S. You will be missed.
Best to create a FanPost.
That way, everyone can respond away from the passion surrounding the Bledsoe matter.
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Clay Travis is a talk radio host and not a practing attorney for a reason.
The NYT would not be able to do depositions as they would probably not be a party. His lawsuit is against the person who gave the NYT his grades. Furthermore, even if the NYT became a party, whether or not Bledsoe’s grade was inflated is irrelevant as the issue is who gave the NYT his info.
Basically, someone at the school or with the NCAA (if someone there leaked his grades) would be in hot water.
It's great to see ...
… my perceptions of that question validated by no less than two practicing attorneys.
Thanks, Jack Blulto and wklawdog.
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Story just ahead of the NBA draft!
The fact that the story broke out just before the NBA draft may cause Bledsoe to lose millions if his draft position changes from the expected position. I think he has solid grounds to really sue for some big bucks.
Since the NYT used documents obtained illegaly, then they would be jointly and severally liable in the lawsuit.
UK over
How pray tell can this affect Eric’s NBA money? He is out of school. Derrick Rose(allegedly) didn’t take his SAT and was #1 pick and now a millionare for Chicago.
Happy Days are here again! Wildcat's have #1 recruiting class again!
It could raise character issues. Don't think that
will happen, but it could.
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by ALLBLUCAT on Jun 1, 2010 7:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
hmmm.
You don’t print something like this in the NYT unless you have the facts, and are damn certain. Unless you’re looking to get thrown out on your ass that is. This is going to get interesting.
by Kentucky Humidity-lmao on Jun 1, 2010 1:44 AM EDT reply actions
Another expert opinion. Please.
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by ALLBLUCAT on Jun 1, 2010 7:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
All the article did was make accusations. No offer
of proof was made. No record, affadavit, no one going on record. Just a lot of speculation. Makes one proud not to be a reporter. Or from New York.
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by ALLBLUCAT on Jun 1, 2010 7:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't think the lawsuit would be over the facts.
It would more likely be over the illegally-released transcript. The rest of the facts are largely irrelevant to that.
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ironically
it seems the heart of the NYT article is the investigation, not the accusations about bledsoe’s past themselves.
given what other media outlets have said, the rumors around bledsoe’s recruitment have been around for some time. the main difference in the NYT article is they have a source (anonymous, of course) they believe solid enough to indicate there is an NCAA investigation. this is what their rather formidable credibility is hanging on, not if the rumors themselves prove to be true or not.
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Just curious
Has the NYT weighed in on the mess at UConn basketball? I know that the Bledsoe issue was in the making for some time, and that it didn’t have anything to do with deflecting chatter about the Huskies, but I wonder it the NYT made any kind of early replies about the UConn situation.
I'm sure they have.
It doesn’t matter, anyway. It never really pays to shoot the messenger.
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I'm busy - can anyone tell what the status of the mess at UConn is?
I vaguely recall hearing that everyone at UConn was cleared in something around the time of March Madness. Is that not correct?
I have been busy ...
… so I can’t help. My interest in the Huskies right now is pretty low. :-)
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Basically (and I'm paraphrasing)
This all stems from the recruitment of Nate Miles. As I understand it, the crux of the allegations are a bunch of impermissible phone calls to Miles and his associates from the UConn coaching staff (think Kelvin Sampson-lite).
Miles ended up signing with the Huskies, but never suited up for them after violating a restraining order taken out by his (ex?-) girlfriend and getting kicked out of school.
As for punishments, the two assistants most heavily involved were made to fall on their swords, Calhoun was cited for failure to properly supervise (though this did not prevent him from signing a lucrative extension and being hailed as a fine leader of men), and I don’t believe program sanctions have yet been meted out (but could be wrong). I think all assume that program sanctions will be fairly mild (perhaps probation plus a loss of a scholarship or so), but they won’t have to forfeit any games as Miles never played.
That’s the high level summary, anyway.
It's summertime - go Reds!
We don't know what the penalties will be.
The NCAA won’t issue its report until December, it seems.
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Thanks to you both.
I guess I had heard about the falling on the swords part, but I did not realize Calhoun got a failure to supervise finding. I guess it is worth pointing out that Cal does not even have a failure to supervise rap sheet – since neither he nor his assistants have been cited for wrongdoing I guess.
NYT, not dummies.
Just an observation here about NYT and newspapers in general. All of the large news
outlets like NYT have a battery of lawyers. These guys are intelligent, smart, and well
versed in corporate law defense. Besides the NYT will not be the defendent.
I think.
Big Dan Issel......The Best there is.
Absence of Malice..
of course, he pronounced it “suh-peeny”…classic…how is it that UK “paid” EB’s high-school coach to “direct” EB to UK, when his high-school coach didn’t want him going to UK in the first place…I hope EB sues whomever leaked his transcript…and is it possible to turn around an academic career ? yes…my first semester in college I was at a 1.79 and put on academic probation…met a girl (and thus didn’t want to get kicked out of school) and raised my GPA the next semester to a 3.6…I just started going to class more and actually paying attention…this whole thing seems fishy to me…headhunting? quite possibly…sad though that this was the prevalent story ahead of the Kansas and UConn issues…that should prove what the national media has in form of an agenda (and some local Kentucky writers as well) …Pitino Jr, could be looking for work shortly…and a good attorney
Heh.
Love Wilford Brimley. One of my favorite character actors of all time.
I suspect Bledsoe, if he sues anyone, will sue the individual(s) and/or organizations who illegally leaked his private information. He would have no real cause of action against the the Times, and I suspect he would be ruled at least a limited public figure, which puts the bar for a defamation case very high. Plus, I can’t really see how the Times defamed Bledsoe.
I’m sure the lawyers around here could lay it out better.
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