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The Big Blue Daily Mail -- Kenny Payne Edition

Well, the word is that Kenny Payne has been offered and accepted the assistant coaching position vacated by Rod Strickland earlier this year.  Congratulations to Kenny, and welcome to Lexington.

As a side note, how ironic is it that a former player for UK's 1996 national championship team is coaching for Louisville (Walter McCarty), and a former player for Louisville's 1986 national championship team (Kenny Payne) is coaching for Kentucky.

Who'da thunk it?  The news follows the jump.

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  • Oregon basketball: Dana Altman confirms that Kenny Payne is going to Kentucky | OregonLive.com

    Payne, who has coached at Oregon since 2004, has gotten much of the credit for Oregon's recruiting successes in recent years. His departure leaves Altman with just one assistant, Brian Fish, who followed Altman from Creighton.

    It will no doubt hurt the Ducks' recruiting efforts, at least initially, as the next recruiting period is about a month away.

    Uh oh.  Will we now see a bunch of Ducks fans assailing us for "stealing" their best recruiter?

    Those of you planning to head up to the northwestern United States this summer might want to leave your school colors at home. :-)

  • Brandon Knight caps stellar high school career with more awards - Broward High Schools - MiamiHerald.com

    Already the most decorated boys' basketball player in Florida history, Knight added to his haul Wednesday by winning the Herald's 3A-1A Basketball Player of the Award for the fourth consecutive season and the Overall Male Athlete of the Year Award for the second straight time.

    Congratulations to Brandon Knight.

  • Early betting odds for the 2010-11 college basketball season
  • Indian Brothers Inspiring Gigantic Hoops Hype - Chris Littmann - The Sporting Blog - Sporting News

    That's probably a fair assertion, not only because he's right, but because Calipari gets his true pick of the top players in the nation at the moment, so he won't need any special in for this duo probably.

    Who knows if Calipari will even recruit these guys?  They have great size, but they are not athletic.  Still, you can't teach 7'4".

  • Kentucky Basketball Raised Its GPA By a Tenth of a Point: Does It Matter? - Andy Hutchins - The Sporting Blog - Sporting News

    Kentucky bragging on its men's basketball team's minimal improvement seems silly to me, though, when I consider their women's basketball team. They made the Elite Eight just like their male counterparts, and though their spring average is not listed in the article, I'd guess it's around the 2.77 they posted (PDF) in the fall. They also didn't require a ton of spin and extra legwork from the athletic department.

    Exactly right.  Barnhart should just shut up about the men's program except to say that things will get better, and quit trying to make excuses for their performance.  It is better than it was, but only just.  And the women's program should be proud.

  • Bad Things Happen in Threes, Three Times Over - The Daily Gopher

    Jurors ruled yesterday that the University is obliged to pay Jimmy Williams nearly $1.25 million in an employment lawsuit which claimed that he was falsely promised a job by Tubby Smith. Fans can only hope that this incident is now in the past and doesn't influence Tubby to look elsewhere.

    Hard to figure why Smith would look elsewhere based on this.  It seems he made a mistake, and the school's insurance will have to pay.  Maturi was part of the problem, so it's unlikely that Smith will get all the blame, if any.

  • Former Cavs coach Mike Brown should be glad team fired him - Jeff Pearlman - SI.com

    Thanks to the Cavs' decision to ax its unambiguously successful coach, Brown has washed his hands of the Cirque du Freak that is LeBron James' free agency. No longer does Brown -- an intelligent and worldly man -- have to swallow his pride in order to woo a 25-year-old kid with the apparent curiosity of a coffee table; no longer does he have to beg and grovel and plead at the feet of someone half his age; no longer does he have to "recruit" his own player with promises of unlimited riches, more personnel power, a date with Cheryl Cole, trades for Dwight Howard, Julius Erving, Bob Cousy and God, and -- if all else fails -- the key to the city of Cleveland (Literally. The real key. The one that opens and closes the joint).

    I'm going to say that I agree with this assessment.  Now, why would Calipari want to step into those shoes and leave the best job in college basketball? 

    He wouldn't, unless he were batsh*t crazy.

  • Minnesota athletics tarnished by mismanagement - News - Opinions - bnd.com

    It turns out Smith looks better on paper than in person. His resume is impeccable. His work in Dinkytown is spotty. Smith has returned the basketball program to relevance, and to the NCAA Tournament.

    He has not, however, become the ambassador for the program or the university that we assumed he would be. He has not been as visible or as charming as many of us expected.

    If these guys actually expected an "ambassador" for their program in the sense that Calipari is for UK, I could have told them they would be disappointed.  Smith was very quiet here, and he's quiet there.  It's just his way. 

    He is an excellent basketball coach, and he isn't the most charming man in the world, nor does he love the limelight.  If this is coming as a surprise to the Minnesota sports press, it's only because they failed to do their homework.  Smith is just being himself.

  • Turkish spirit catches on in Kentucky - Hurriyet Daily News and Economic Review

    "I love basketball very much but I also know there is a life after basketball," Kanter said. "I will be 35 years old someday and will enter a second part of my life. I need to take steps to prepare for that life and only a good education can help me to get there. I am so happy to be enrolled at the University of Kentucky. Not only are the people kind and warm, but the education is excellent and I know this is going to help me to be successful in life."

    Well, he is saying the right things, whether or not he actually means them.

  • Ticket skimming scandal tops $1 million for KU - KansasCity.com

    Both the Kansas attorney general and Douglas County district attorney’s offices confirmed they had received copies of the report. But spokesmen said federal prosecutors are taking the lead in the investigation and they would be involved only if asked for assistance.

    This is going to get ugly.

  • Ticket scandal rocks Kansas - College Basketball - Rivals.com
    All the sordid details to date about the Kansas ticket scandal. What a mess.

  • NCAA Facing Its Own Erin Brockovich -- NCAABB FanHouse

    One of the key points of contention in the case will be the legality and enforceability of a document, the "3a form," that all college athletes are required to complete prior to every season. It stipulates, among other things, that athletes allow their schools to utilize their name, image and likeness for promotional use and for-profit endeavors.

    This is interesting.  My question is, how can you sign away your rights in perpetuity using this kind of instrument?

  • High School Sports

    Cobbins, 6 feet 2, 195 pounds, with 4.44 speed in the 40-yard dash, delivered his commitment to Kentucky Coach Joker Phillips via telephone Wednesday, the day before the Roneagles concluded spring practice with a scrimmage at South Lafourche, Cobbins and McDonogh 35 Coach Wayne Reese said Friday.

    Tee Martin is paying dividends already for Joker Phillips.

  • UK Football: Football helps UK GPA improve: AMNews.com

    That was a significant improvement overall for the athletics department from the fall semester and football played a huge role in that increase. After having a combined GPA of 2.35 in the fall, Phillips’ Wildcats raised that mark to 2.66 in the spring. Considering football has more scholarship athletes than any other sport, the team’s improvement was a huge boost to the school’s GPA.

    Congratulations to the football team for getting the academic job done.

  • Husky Men's Basketball Blog | More On Carrick Felix Who Is Reportedly Drawing Interest | Seattle Times Newspaper

    Not sure if the Carrick Felix-to-Washington rumor will pan out, but it seems the 6-6 guard at the College of Southern Idaho is drawing interest from Pac-10 schools.

    Felix didn't like Duke, apparently, so now he's considering the Huskies.

     

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And everyone thought I was joking when I said the Football team was who raised the GPA!

We all need to be very thankful right now.

1) Our coaching staffs are 2nd to none, anywhere in the country.
2) The results are starting to show in both the classroom and the world of competition.
3) Our future looks just as bright as the present.
4) We have top notch facilities and as we speak UK is looking to improve those even further.
5) UK is becoming a national player in academics and research.
6) Our tradition is once again atarting to become a factor in all that we do.

7) We did not scalp any Kansas tickets
8) We did not scalp and Kansas tickets
9) We did not scalp any Kansas tickets
10) We did not scalp any Kansas tickets

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on May 27, 2010 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Coaching staffs second to none?

Damn and I just read we finished 9th in the SEC All Sports Trophy.

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 27, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

doesnt matter.....show me any other school in the SEC that has the quality of staffs that we have from top to bottom

Florida has them…….but they are the only other school. Our problem here is not coaching at this point…..we just need time……

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on May 28, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

c/mon ABC

finishing 9th in the conference is terrible. But Mitch has this plan -———

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 28, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Patience?

We certainly have had that, except in Basketball.

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 28, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

How ironic, both from 1996

And….KU may be in a little hot water. You guys and gals do know that Cal started out there as an assistant.
Guess who’s fault this all will be, at least in the blogoshere. ;-)

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on May 27, 2010 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

UK football will be okay

Recruiting is looking good. I am gearing up for football and anxious to see Operation Win on the field.

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on May 27, 2010 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Payne Was VERY NEARLY A Wildcat In The 1980's

UK was his second choice to Louisville coming out of HS in Mississippi.

The Cardnials signed a few good MS players then – including Lancaster Gordon.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 27, 2010 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

YOU STOLE OUR BEST RECRUITING COACH!

In all seriousness, there are definitely some Duck fans that will overreact to Payne leaving. I think a lot of fans think that his connection with Worldwide Wes would have some impact on the program (if it has, I sure haven’t seen it). Though Payne has done a good job, especially in Midwest recruiting, but I’d say the majority of Duck fans at Addicted To Quack will wish him the best and look to move on from the Ernie Kent era.

It helps that Altman has already picked up two recruits in recent weeks for this class, and after our drawn out coaching search, I was not expecting to get any players in this class.

Good luck to Payne, it’s scary how good Kentucky is going to be with this recruiting talent.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on May 27, 2010 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks.

This has been a weird summer.

Altman is a winner and he is in a place where I think he can really make a difference. I wish you guys all the best.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on May 27, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Addicted. Nice Post...I agree with your assessment concerning U of O ....

and wishing Payne the best. I believe the Duck’s big guy Dunnigan (from Chicago) was
on the local news in Eugene on Tuesday was very philosophical and wished Coach Payne success. Dunnigan went on to say that he understands that this is a great opportunity (for Coach Payne) to work with Coach Cal and the mighty Kentucky Wildcats program

No need to keep the Wildcat Blue under wraps. Folks in Eugene that I know, agree with
the Dunnigan statement above and understand that most new coaches (Altman) almost
always bring in their own staff with to begin anew.

by blue oregon on May 27, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone Please Explain The Economics

Of Kenny Payne’s move to UK. Let’s see, he was compensated $425,000-450,000 with other incentive possibilities at Eugene and he’s moving to Lexington where prior assistants are paid a bit more than half that. I know The Commonwealth is enticing especially when family connections are concerned but there has to be more to the monetary aspect of the narrative.

"There is a rank due to the United States, among nations, which will be withheld, if not absolutely lost, by the reputation of weakness." --George Washington

by Wild Weasel on May 27, 2010 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

lexington

Is a unique place. Keep your nose clean and play it right and former players and coaches can never want again. There will be plenty of opportunities for him to even out his money bags.

Changing how you think will change what you think.

by wilson452 on May 27, 2010 7:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't know....................

trade $400k+ for $200k? Other opportunities? Some will say that Payne is being groomed for the HC when Cal leaves. And, how does this all sit with the big “O”? Does anyone else think that something don’t smell right.

by bigbill992001 on May 27, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say it was probably

all of the innuendo in your post.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on May 27, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh Tubby Tubby

looks like he just cost the University of Minn about $1.5 million from the assistant coaching debacle. Good job Tubby.

by Shootmeibleedblue on May 27, 2010 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Well ...

… he had a lot of help from his AD on that. It isn’t all on him.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on May 27, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

That’s what I understand as well. Maturi blew that call.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on May 28, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

His E-Mails (Obtained By Discovery) Were Proof

My only quibble is with the amount ($1.25 million) but Williams deserved to win his lawsuit.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 28, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you ...

… that the amount is suspect. They may be able to get that lowered on appeal.

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by Glenn Logan on May 28, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doubtful.

I believe I read that he asked for more based on what he was earning per year and how many years he had left on the contract. Verdict amounts and almost never overturned.

by wklawdog on May 29, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll never say a bad word about Tubby

Obviously I like the ‘98 championship, but just as important, I like that he conducted himself with class. He is, was and will continue to be a true gentleman. For the most part, his teams did the same. Don’t get me wrong, I was ready for him to go, maybe even a year or two before he did. But, I think he just simply burned out. It happens, especially in such a high pressure job. He recognized it and moved on. I wish him nothing but the best at Minnesota, unless, of course, he plays UK.

I may be paranoid, but that doesn't mean they're not out to get me.

by UKCat on May 27, 2010 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll agree

It must really eat at the national media to know that there are Cat fans who still love Tubby.

by doldham on May 27, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coach Smith was and is a good coach ...

… and a good man.

I wish nothing but the best for him.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on May 28, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

why isn't this stirring up crap if my posting of saying he will be looked on in a favorable light?

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 28, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't believe it was your posting

but rather my response to it.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on May 28, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Enes The Cat

The word from Turkey is that it’s love at first sight.

"There is a rank due to the United States, among nations, which will be withheld, if not absolutely lost, by the reputation of weakness." --George Washington

by Wild Weasel on May 27, 2010 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Man.

Good find. Very cool.

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by Glenn Logan on May 28, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Loved one of the comments:

“I love Turkey, but it makes me so sleepy.” Heh.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on May 28, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Surprise surprise from Jerry Tipton

http://www.kentucky.com/2010/05/20/1273414/uk-basketball-notes-henry-says.html#storylink=omni_popular

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.

by blbskue on May 27, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Old, Old News

The Henry information was on KU boards, radio and in Lawrence J-W weeks ago.

"There is a rank due to the United States, among nations, which will be withheld, if not absolutely lost, by the reputation of weakness." --George Washington

by Wild Weasel on May 27, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised it

took him that long to copy it.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on May 27, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stoking The Cards' Anger

Hoze and the rest of the Red Rabble aren’t going to like this: Calipari near to garnering another UL decommit.

"There is a rank due to the United States, among nations, which will be withheld, if not absolutely lost, by the reputation of weakness." --George Washington

by Wild Weasel on May 27, 2010 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh my.....

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on May 27, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw that.

I do wonder if we’ll have enough rides available. But now that I think about it, if Kanter leaves, we’ll be needing a big man.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on May 28, 2010 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stoking my anger?

Really? Anger? I try to limit my anger to the greater evil in life and in this world. You know, like the genocide in Darfur or the dictatorship in Burma.

The decision of an 18 yr old on where he choses to go to school on the anger list is around number….wait, it doesn’t make the list. Maybe my perspective is out of whack.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on May 28, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

The new Rick Pitino theme song

I’m just drivin nails in my coffin
Every time I lose another recruit
I’m just drivin nails in my coffin
They’ll put me out to pasture before I’m through……..

……Adapted from the Osborne Brothers…1970

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on May 28, 2010 8:28 AM EDT reply actions  

ZAAAAM!

pullin out the Osborne Brothers circa 1970 was AWESOME!

Changing how you think will change what you think.

by wilson452 on May 28, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pro Cal....

I’m very much a Coach Calipari fan. What a job he did in 2009-10.

I am inclined to believe, however, that UK has just hired their next Head Coach. How long it will be before he is offered that position is dependent upon how long Cal chooses to stay.

I don’t think it will be real soon but I do believe that he still has his eye on the NBA.

by WildcatBlue1930Adolph on May 28, 2010 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Mich will not promote an assistant that has no head coaching experience to the head spot.

After the Billy Clyde fiasco, he will not hire up and comers for the basketball program but will look for an established coach.

by wklawdog on May 28, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

wklawdog...

I wasn’t aware of that. Good for Mitch. One thing for sure though, Kenny will greatly add to his already established abilities. I still have the 1986 U of L vs. UK tape that I made of that game. Quite a thriller. Kenny Payne was very impressive and Cedric Jenkins saved our bacon in that one.

by WildcatBlue1930Adolph on May 28, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

with this hire we have the next coach?

Oh, I forgot the Mitchell Barnhart theory of ‘coach in waiting’.

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 28, 2010 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

ParisGuy...

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT!

by WildcatBlue1930Adolph on May 28, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you fail to read the two or three comments ...

… that said UK basketball will not be hiring an assistant with no head coaching experience?

Did that escape your notice somehow?

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by Glenn Logan on May 28, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you really believe that?

Especially after turning the fortunues of football over to one who had no head coaching experience?
C’mon, now you know football is almost as important as basketball.

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 28, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Football and basketball at UK ...

… have almost nothing in common.

You should know that. That you apparently do not is … instructive.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on May 29, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's just

thinking independently again.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on May 29, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

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