Kentucky Baskeball: Ranking the Wildcats
Some ridiculously early pre-season college team rankings are out. Jeff Goodman of Fox Sports and Andy Katz of ESPN have weighed, measured and found the Kentucky Wildcats wanting -- at least when it comes to the top ten.
First Jeff Goodman:
18. KENTUCKY
Record: 35-3 (Elite Eight)
Lose: John Wall, DeMarcus Cousins, Patrick Patterson, Eric Bledsoe, Daniel Orton, Ramon Harris, Perry Stevenson
Key Returnees: Darius Miller, DeAndre Liggins, Darnel Dodson, Jon Hood
Newcomers: Brandon Knight, Enes Kanter, Doron Lamb, Stacey Poole
Talk about a dramatic change in personnel. The Wildcats lost five guys to the NBA draft, but UK has reloaded with a terrific freshman class led by Knight — one of the most talented guards in the country. The key, however, could be Kanter — a 6-foot-9 Turkish kid who could be a force in the paint.
I think Goodman gets this mostly right, and I would rank the 'Cats around #17 or #18. Of course, Goodman later noted in a Twitter comment that this is based on the presumption that Terrence Jones does in fact matriculate to the Washington Huskies. We'll have more on Jones later.
Moving on to Andy Katz, he sees the 2010-11 Wildcats thus:
13. Kentucky: This could be a reach. I don't dispute that argument. John Wall, DeMarcus Cousins, Patrick Patterson, Eric Bledsoe and Daniel Orton are all gone. You might be asking why I'm not punting Kentucky from my top 25 all together? Well, the recent history of UK and that of John Calipari at Memphis tells us not to assume demise when a reshuffling of talent occurs. Sure there is a talent drop off, but the return of key role players like Darius Miller and DeAndre Liggins and a stellar recruiting class led by Brandon Knight, Enes Kanter (assuming he doesn't run into a major suspension for amateur issues), Stacey Poole and Doron Lamb means the Cats will be able to compete with any team in the country. The newcomers don't have as much star power as this past season's freshman class, but the talent is still headline quality. Kanter is the key. If he is good to go by SEC play at the latest, Big Blue should be right in the thick of the race.
Katz mentions Kanter just as Goodman does, and for good reasons. Without Kanter, Kentucky will have almost no measurable low-post presence other than Josh Harrellson, and that would be a difficult situation for the Wildcats.
I do think Katz goes out more on a limb than Goodman does, but not by a great deal. It is quite possible for next year's young Kentucky team to wander in and out of the top ten from time to time, as talented as they are. But my feeling, as apparently with Katz and Goodman also, is that those stays will likely be short and infrequent, if they happen at all.
And now to the matter of Terrence Jones. Terrence is still apparently unsure what school he will be attending, although signs suggest that he has not changed his intentions to go to Washington as of now.
So people are beginning to ask the question, "What happens if the deadline for signing an LOI on May 19th comes and goes?" Well, the answer is, nothing. Jones can just show up and play for whatever team is willing to offer him a scholarship. He could also sign financial aid agreements with as many teams as he wants, and then pick one at his leisure. The aid agreements are binding on the school, but not on the player.
So there we are. You are up to date with the major developments of the day.
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I Know Someone Remembers
What were we ranked a year ago?
We were waiting on John Wall to pick his school
I remember that. ’-) So the pre-season polls read if, if not.
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
So if kid can sign a financial aid agreement
with as many schools as they want, do the schools know about the other agreements? Do we want 17 and 18 year old guys holding 20 agreements to pick one out of a hat? Where does that get anyone? Questions, questions……
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
That's not likely.
Schools do talk to each other, and most schools would not be interested in offering an aid agreement if another has already done so.
I was kind of using an extreme example. It could happen, but it never will.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
It Used To Happen Often
HS A-A forward John Fraley of Middletown OH signed aid papers with UK, Cincy, and IU in 1968.
He decided on UC during the summer but transferred to Georgia in 1970.
by FortyYearCatFan on May 12, 2010 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I Don't Think We Should Worry
If a player decommits he can’t sign a LOI anyway (Cuz, Xavier Henry, etc.,) and that has never been a problem
That's not quite right ...
The rule is, he can only sign one LOI per year. Jones has never signed one, so he has until the 19th to do so, if he wants. A verbal commitment has no impact on an LOI.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
I believe
the kid can only sign one SEC financial aid agreement. Not sure about signing other agreements with non-SEC schools.
All knowing Cat fans are great
I learn so much from them. ;-)
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
I think that's right about the SEC.
But I’m pretty sure it doesn’t apply to other conferences.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
CHECK THIS
At the Cavs game, courtside
Cal has better seats than Mike Holmgren, next to LeBron’s agent Leon Rose, 2 seats from owner Dan Gilbert…. Hmmmm
I have no idea where to rank UK
and it seems to be the same for the so-called “experts”. No one really knows what to expect and whether the young ones can make UK into a Top 10 team. Very little quality experience returning and lots of young studs. Not to mention there will probably be a few more additions to the roster that could really change things.
I do think the SEC will be a bit better but not superb so that should help UK. Come March, I think UK will be in the thick of things and looking at a 2-4 seed in the tourney.
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
I agree seven-
This is not the time of year to be concerned with rankings…
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
Folks, he is either coming and we are all excited, or he is not coming and we will
get all excited about who we do have…..I say go after at least 1 or 2 others and if he decides later we can live with the extra bodies
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
agreed
we need to add at least two more guys just for depth. they don’t have to be the most talented players available (although that would be nice), but just need to fill a role (i.e. rebounder/space eater). i have a feeling Cal will get one project type F and then some other 4-5* will drop in our laps at the last minute. that could be Jones or it could be some other kid that decommitts at the last minute. maybe Cal will go to China and get us a Yi.
i've been waiting for this moment all my life...but it's not quite right.
by small balls on May 12, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Eloy Vargas to visit UK
http://kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=51566
Interesting.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
if he is more impressive than he was in his previous stint with Florida, It might be interesting
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
He'd be a nice get.
I have reason to doubt he will come here, but he would solve our post problem. He’s good enough to back up Kanter.
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