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The Big Blue Daily Mail -- Monday Edition

The news is kind of sparse around the Big Blue Nation today.  Most people are still sweating Calipari to the Bulls, or whether or not we can find some random player to fill the power forward spot for next year's edition of the Kentucky Wildcats basketball team.

But there are some interesting stories out there.  To wit:

  • UK's recruiting might be too good | KentuckySports.com

    Yet counter-intuitive as this sounds, recent history suggests that — as long as the one-and-done rule remains — your best chance for winning NCAA championships may not come from signing the very best players.

    I think the history here is really too short to suggest anything.  I take Story's argument, but at this point, I'm not buying it.  Wild Weasel has a bit of a rebuttal, as well.

  • Cousins seen by some as relatively risky move - The Boston Globe

    Cousins has displayed a surly court demeanor, even punching a Louisville player in a scramble. Some NBA scouts believe he would have benefited from another year at Kentucky, but Greig said he is a typical 19-year-old.

    What the hell is wrong with the Boston media these days?  Do they have some kind of pathological aversion to getting their facts right?

    Do you remember Cousins throwing a punch against Louisville?  I surely don't.  What a crock.

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Not a punch but maybe an elbow....
What the hell is wrong with the Boston media these days? Do they have some kind of pathological aversion to getting their facts right?

Do you remember Cousins throwing a punch against Louisville? I surely don’t. What a crock.

Not sure if it was UofL or not (although I think it was). I remember a scrum for a loose ball and Cousins on top of the player and he threw what looked like an elbow. I know the play was reviewed but I can’t remember if he was punished for it. It wasn’t that big of a deal but it did happened. I think he is going to be fine mentally.

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on May 10, 2010 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

He didn't "throw" anything.

He leaned on a player a bit with an elbow, but he certainly didn’t throw it, and it absolutely wasn’t a punch by any definition of the term.

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by Glenn Logan on May 10, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

well,

I’m not Tru, but I’m upset by this because false reporting such as the crap that is in the Boston.com piece could potentially hurt Cousins’ draft stock.

He isn’t mean, he isn’t evil. He’s a good kid who got a bad rap and I think he is ridiculously talented and deserves to go as high as he can in the draft and quite frankly any team that chooses him will be very lucky, IMO.

Hopefully the NBA GM’s are smarter than the people who opine that he is evil and mean as in the linked Boston piece and can see through the BS, and I’m actually pretty sure and confident that they are, but like I said, when it comes to Cousins, false reporting like this still bugs the heck out of me. Sorry, I can’t ignore it. Just can’t.

by BigSkyCat on May 10, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey BSC...

i have been away for awhile – was trying to “detox” myself from all the time i spent on ASOB :)

anyway, i just saw the comments from WB30Adolf and responded. just wanted to thank you and hobo for the supportive posts….

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on May 10, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

no problem

it just sorta gets in my craw when someone signs on, signs in and starts slinging darts without knowing any background. I suspect he’ll resurface under another name and test the waters a little next time.

by hoboat33 on May 10, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not tru either

But when someone jsut has a blatent disregard for the facts like that Boston writer, it kind of chaps my ass.

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on May 10, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mine too! So much I'll probably never read another article about it again.

Wonder how its flying with the people in Boston?

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 10, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boston!

Beautiful town full of not so beautiful people. I think it was the thinking behind the invention of the neutron bomb. j/k.

by hoboat33 on May 10, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

although with the way the steets are laid out....

some colateral damage that allows for a more logical city grid of streets might be in order….

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on May 10, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats too organized

for a boston road map….

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on May 10, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Please come to Boston for the springtime."

No thanks. Us rednecks aren’t really welcome there, it seems. Just ask Matt Jones. :-)

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by Glenn Logan on May 10, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

spent 2 weeks

there working in downtown….hated every second of it, rudest people I’ve ever been around

by Bluehound on May 10, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

"punch", "elbow, "forearm"....just semantics

Cousins knew what he was doing all along. And quite frankly, I loved it!

Judge for yourself

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on May 10, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

What he did

was use his forearm to slam an opponent’s head against the hardwood. You can sugarcoat it all you want, but that’s what he did.

However, I’m sure he’ll have a good career in the NBA. If I was a GM I’d draft Cousins.

by don'tshootmei'macard on May 10, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's right.

That isn’t and never has been a punch, and that was my only point.

He rough-housed with Swopshire. That’s all. He didn’t punch or elbow him. Call it semantics if you will, but those semantics are fairly important.

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by Glenn Logan on May 10, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leaned? ya right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRN7cCsP3MQ&NR=1

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 10, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paris ...

… you are getting on my last freaking nerve. My very last.

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by Glenn Logan on May 10, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

The film is there to see.

Sorry if I don’t buy in to the ‘lean’

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 10, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care what you buy.

Feel free to disagree.  But tone down the sarcasm.  I have been hard on Hozeking about that, and I have let you get away with it. 

It’s time for that to change, so please stop with all the sarcastic commentary.  It is unfriendly-looking and frankly, it’s pissing me off.

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by Glenn Logan on May 10, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

all I said was
well its four posts up.
Did I think be intented to hurt the Louisville player? Yes.
I’m not going to agree with everything you post.
if its sarcasm to disagree, I’m guilty.
Do you really think if we disagree, with as simple a statement I made and posting a video for others to examine is worth telling me Im nevermind

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 10, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paris, it's HOW you disagree that gets you in hot water........

disagreeing is never a point of reference around here…..Tru and I have gone back and forth til the cows came home on a lot of subjects….but I dont make a point if making snide comments every time I disagree with him either……

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on May 10, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tell me how my comment about leaning ya right was inflamitory. Show me that.
I’ve been called an assh-le on here and didn’t see any comments from him to the guy.
Make it a level playing field.

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 10, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

you and I disagree and its OK. Why is that?

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 10, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

look, I have a really high tolerance level for a lot of things, and I hear the same stuff you say from others

in other places, and to be honest I do not pay a lot of attention to it, so maybe I am numb to it all, but Tru is in the position of having to run this blog, and you present a very irritating and inflammatory presence here because you respond in the manner you do to a lot of people. Think Star Trek here…..“the needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few, or the one”

You can make cases all day, but when you make comments like you did above that posting of the Cousins’ video, it is going to get you a hard time, and a lot of it.

 And the other part is that it is HIS blog, he can do whatever the devil he wants with it.If he decides to take his toys and go home, he can…..

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on May 10, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Posting the video was inciting the masses?

It was what happened. I didn’t edit it.
I feel the comments of the announcers were fair and actuate.

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 10, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paris

you can believe what you want to and using one angle to prove your point may make sense to you but other camera angles showed a different story. The refs saw them all and made their decision. You and Clark Kellogg saw it from one angle and you only hurt any remaining credibility you have when you keep singing this song.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on May 10, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he wants to kick me off that's his decision to make

I don’t think anyone denies its his blog.
And saying that, I don’t think he really believes that everyone is going to believe everything he writes.
I do believe some on here takes it as a gospel but if we can’t disagree, than its his call.

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 10, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

All you have to do ...

… is back off the sarcasm. That’s it. Disagree all you want, but you are excessively snarky and it is very off-putting.

I have seen you be un-sarcastic — like just above with ABC, so I know you can. Also just so you know, this is not my blog, it belongs to SB Nation. I am its caretaker, that’s all. If I ever decide not to be here, or SB Nation gets tired of me, someone else will take over.

But you have to understand that one of my main jobs is to keep this an inviting place, and excessive sarcasm is very off-putting to others. It also annoys the hell out of me, which is why I have been so hard on Hozeking, and to his credit, he has backed off quite a bit.

Now I’m asking you to do the same. That’s all.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on May 10, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

With ABC chiming in and tag-teaming...

I almost feel obligated to come to Paris’ defense. Can I be the Shiek!?!?

By the way, did I miss the knight-hooding or blessing of ABC as the bully-boss?

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on May 10, 2010 7:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

just having a conversation with Paris is all there Hoze

he and I seem to be able to communicate most of the time……and no, I have not been knighted by anyone….when dealing with troll-types such as yourself, an official title is not only not necessary, it’s redundant…….the title of fan is all that is needed.

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on May 11, 2010 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Troll-types?

Do I really deserve that name-calling? And I thought we were becoming friends… :(

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on May 11, 2010 7:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

bully-boss????

seems to me we are flipping the same coin here……

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on May 11, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Probably.

But I am nothing but a friendly, kind-hearted soul. As opposed to….

Wait, is that sarcastic? Can you even break the ‘Rule of Sarcasm’, if one is referring to themselves???

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on May 11, 2010 2:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

….Oh, and Cuz got a break NOT being thrown out of that game.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on May 10, 2010 8:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

that was not sarcasm....

but the post of yours just above was:

Mine too! So much I’ll probably never read another article about it again. Wonder how its flying with the people in Boston?

given your position on the topic, there is no other way – imo – to interpret that post other than sarcasm….

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on May 10, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

you don/t let me get away with a da-n thing.

You know I’m going to look into the statements here, yours and others. I don’t buy everything that is put up in here.
Allowing others to comment on personal problems and making fun of others success and writing it off as ‘fun and games’ is fine I guess.
Make the playing field level and lets play it that way.

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 10, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care if you don't agree. You're welcome to disagree all you want.

It isn’t what you say, it’s how you say it. You know perfectly well what I am talking about, so please stop feigning ignorance and surprise.

You have as level a playing field as you are going to get.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on May 10, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it levef for me as for everyone?

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 10, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone have a picture...

of someone hitting their head against a wall…tru might need it right now….

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on May 10, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 10, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

you are welcome

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on May 10, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

He isn't the only one that might need it ;-)

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on May 10, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course it is.

Look, Paris, mild, occasional sarcasm, particularly tinged with humor, is great. But making snarky remarks has never been welcome here.

When you act as a provocateur in here, you get a bit less latitude. That’s because you try to start arguments, so the primary responsibility of keeping the tone civil is on you. If someone else pops off unfairly, I’ll reign them in as well.

You worry about yourself. Let me worry about everyone else. You don’t have the right to be nasty if someone is nasty to you — it’s my job to police that, and I do.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on May 10, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

If one person has an opinion of you, maybe it is them.

If everyone has the same opinion of you… maybe the problem is you and not them.

:)
Just sayin’.

by JackBluto on May 10, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

ever heard the saying about opinionns and what they are compared to?

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 10, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

This Is Ridiculous

Why dont you watch all 3 u-tube videos. Not only did Swopshire intentionally hit Cousins in the head with his knee, he also jumps up and swings at him.

by LJMKYFAN on May 10, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if I agree that Swopshire kneed him intentionally.

What I do know is that was not a punch that Cousins gave him.

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by Glenn Logan on May 10, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely A Matter of Opinion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siwU5muwBxI
Dont know if you have watched the play from this angle, but it gives reason for debate…. I couldn’t find the video that showed a l’ville player swing at cousins

by LJMKYFAN on May 10, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ouch.

That didn’t look good. I can’t determine intent, but there’s no doubt that would provoke a reaction from almost anybody.

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by Glenn Logan on May 10, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was the view...

that cbs never showed more than once or twice

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on May 10, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't remember seeing that view on CBS.

But they obviously showed it.

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by Glenn Logan on May 10, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

had to be quick...

once they realized they made the mistake of airing, they did not repeat that mistake :)

only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team

by memphis wildcat on May 10, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Provocation, indeed.

I happen to think Cousins was provoked in the Swopshire incident and it’s also fairly important to note that that incident was very early on in the season. Things were so new to him then, he was just getting used to the college game and he probably didn’t know any better than to try and defend himself.

And furthermore, if Cousins really and truly has attitude issues and needs anger management don’t people think it’s pretty likely that he would have reacted in anger or shown some sort of retaliation when he was kneed in the groin by that TN player (sorry, I can’t remember his name) in the second half of the season and then again when he took that ridiculously cheap shot delivered by Chas McFarland in the Wake game? I sure do.

I’ve been following Cousins’ draft status a bit, not scouring the internet for it, but perusing a bit, and it actually does seem to me that the "Cousins has attitude issues" concerns are waning a bit and people are coming around, and thankfully so. And, I suppose it was maybe just a matter of a poor choice of words by the Boston author and perhaps he shouldn’t have been taken quite so literally.

In the end, all the negative or even less-than 100% factual reports really aren’t a big deal and shouldn’t really work us up, I guess. Cousins is a good kid, he will prove it, and some very smart GM and lucky NBA team will snatch him up and Cousins will be laughing at all those who questioned his maturity and his doubters all the way to the bank come June 24. : )

by BigSkyCat on May 10, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

definitely provoked

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on May 10, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Agree

The current debate in the league is not if he should or shouldnt be a lottery pick 1-14, but where he should fall in the top 4.(his agent has made a strong case for him going at 1 ahead of Wall). So there’s no doubt the Cousins we love in Ky will be a millionare in a few months. Lol

by LJMKYFAN on May 10, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I usually just read here, but I got to disagree....

Cousins was never kneed or anything else in the groin. Melvin Goins threw a forearm (kind of like Cousins at U of L) and hit Cousins in the belly button. Cousins was setting a screen and covering himself with is hands as players do. Goins forearm was a good 8-10 inches above Cousins’ hands. If that got him in a tender place, then he’s not built like any other human male (which may be true). It was a flagrant foul, for sure, but I’m not sure he should have been ejected. Who’s to say that wasn’t retaliation for something done by Cousins’ earlier. As the picture at the top shows, he ain’t the cleanest of players. Cousins was not ejected vs. Louisville for basically doing the same thing.

All that being said. Cousins is a can’t miss NBA center.

by tonerjones on May 11, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice try, but no sale.

I’m not really all that shocked that you saw things quite bit differently than I as far as the Goins/Cousins incident what with you being a Tennessee fan and all and I do think that rehashing something that happened months ago is pretty pointless, and I also realize that it’s totally your prerogative to call Cousins a dirty player ("ain’t the cleanest of players" is what I think you said, to be exact), and while you are certainly entitled to your opinion, I kind of take umbrage with that and so I’m going to reply. I promise ya’ll, I’ll try to make it quick. : )

You are correct in that it wasn’t a knee, it was an elbow (that was my error, and for that I apologize), but I really gotta say toner, judging from this YouTube clip I found as a reminder about the incident, I don’t think there was anything accidental about it, I thought it was clearly directed at the groin, not the belly button, as you say, and quite frankly to even suggest that that non-accidental elbow was in retaliation for something earlier in the game is quite a stretch and pretty inane.

And additionally, you know what makes the Goins/Cousins situation a bit different the Cousins/Swopshire incident to me and why the two are not the "same thing", as you say? Well, as you can clearly see from the above YouTube clip the elbow by Goins wasn’t during a scrum, it wasn’t during a loose ball situation as in the Cousins/Swopshire situation. No, quite the contrary. Goins reacted during a live ball situation, no provocation was in the vicinity and that’s probably why he was ejected in that game and why Cousins was not ejected in the Louisville game as Cousins was involved in a loose ball situation where body parts were going everywhere and he simply reacted to what was going on around him.

Look, I get that Goins was probably frustrated as I think that at the time of the elbow the game was pretty much decided in our favor, wasn’t it? And, I’m not saying that Goins is a bad person or that he has attitude issues, but being frustrated doesn’t excuse what he did or give him a pass for obviously elbowing Cousins in the groin in what was a totally unprovoked live ball situation. And, to be quite honest, I really wasn’t trying to paint Goins as a bad person in my initial post above, I was just attempting to show that Cousins isn’t inherently mean, short fused, quick tempered or whatever as evidenced by the fact that he didn’t retaliate in that particular situation, that’s all.

So, I guess that wasn’t really all that quick, was it? Sorry all, and yes, toner, I would agree with your last point, I also think Cousins is a can’t miss NBA center.

by BigSkyCat on May 12, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow...

Didn’t mean to invoke such a reaction and I apologize for whatever button I pushed. That was not my intent.

I never said the forearm was accidental. I said it was a flagrant foul. You see this same play fairly frequently in basketball when a player is trying to fight through a pick. Most guys bring their arms up when they see a pick coming to cushion the blow. Goins put a little extra into it by throwing the forearm and that is a flagrant foul. The fact that Goins is over a foot shorter than Cousins made it appear to some that he was trying to hit him in the groin. It is pretty clear in the clip that you linked to that the forearm connected at or above the elastic waist band of Cousins shorts. I’m not at all defending Goins actions, just trying to squash the urban legend (that Coach Cal perpetuates) that Cousins was hit in his man parts.

I never said Cousins was a dirty player, but he isn’t an angel on the court either. The picture at the top of this post is pretty representative of what I saw every time I watched Cousins play. Somebody puts me in a headlock and mauls me for the ball, I might consider some retaliation. Not exactly a stretch or inane.

I don’t believe Cousins is a bad person. I think he is a young kid still learning how to control his temper (and getting a lot better as you state).

I’ll go back to reading. I really don’t mean to be a troll.

by tonerjones on May 13, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

toner,

I didn’t mean to scare you off and I don’t think you are a troll. Even though I didn’t agree with your assertion, I thought it was well-written and just fine. And, believe me, if I thought you were a troll, I wouldn’t have responded to you in the first place as I don’t generally tend to give trolls the time of day.

Sorry if my reply was a bit much. There are few topics UK-Basketball-wise that will actually invoke a strong reaction from me (i.e. a post that is waaayy to long and perhaps a tad over-the-top in tone : )) — you just happen to hit on one of them. No biggie, we can agree to disagree on this issue, and by all means, if you want to comment in the future, please do so. : )

by BigSkyCat on May 13, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would be confident enough to accuse him of an intentional knee.

I would suggest that Cousins’ reaction was understandable as a reaction to the knee rather than an instigation of the incident.

And that is all that really needs to be acknowledged to get the Cousins’ story correct. He did ‘something’ [I agree not a punch] in retaliation to a blow [intentional or not] to the head. Not nearly as bad as CBS or the media have described it through out the year. Frankly, I think Bledsoe has done worse on a couple of occassions and no one seems to be talking about his head (which WOULD be a concern if I were an NBA GM).

by JackBluto on May 10, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

CORRECTION

I would NOT be confident enough to accuse him of an intentional knee.

MY BAD — forgot a word.

by JackBluto on May 10, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watching the replay

it is clear that the knee to Cousins face knocked him to the side. Fighting to retain possession of the ball and regain balance, his elbow contacts only floor and his forearm position is incidental to his grip on the ball. That is what the refs saw and that is why he wasn’t ejected.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on May 10, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

One Aspect Is Certain

DeMarcus Cousins absorbed a lot more punishment than he dished out.

"There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." --James Madison

by Wild Weasel on May 10, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen!!!

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on May 10, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't forget the coaching he gave Cal when he would come out of the games. That's worth a lot.

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 10, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

seemed to work considering his huge improvement in performance from December

to March……dont you think??

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on May 10, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

And still got 18 and 18

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on May 10, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

true dat

No doubt about they beat the $*^t out of Cuz this year maturity shouldnt even be a ??

by onemaco on May 10, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

A great hustle play

That’s what I saw. A 6-11 five-star going on the floor after a loose ball like a 5-11 walk-on trying to earn a little playing time. It demonstrated that Cuz is a great competitor, a great team player. I think we won that game, didn’t we?

by Fortunatus on May 10, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Omitting Rondo's Performance?

Thought for sure there would be a mention of Rajan Rondo’s super performance in ASoB’s Monday Mail but since there isn’t (I know, you can’t do everything) I’ll add it: Wilt Chamberlain, Oscar Robertson and — ta, dah — Rajan Rondo (29-18-13)!

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by Wild Weasel on May 10, 2010 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

They said, on Mike & Mike, and other programs today...

that the Celtics are now his team after yesterday’s performance. Also that he’s a sold, Top 5 NBA PG.

He wasn’t a fan favorite at UK, that’s probably why no mention.

by mrmondaynite on May 10, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rondo

I always liked Rondo. I just felt that his talent was squandered here.

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on May 10, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think Bogans, Prince and Hayes talent were squandered here?

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 10, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on May 10, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good answer. So you don't think it was Tubby's coaching then?

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by ParisGuy on May 10, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just dont think that their styles complimented eachother

in order to create the chemistry necessary for Rondo to play to his talent potential.

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on May 10, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

and what was I trying?

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by ParisGuy on May 10, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll bite,

Tubby did not utilize Rondo to his fullest potential. Tubby had a team style and you fit into that style or you didn’t play. Not that that is bad per say, just that Tubby wasn’t changing things to accommodate individuals. That was good enough for winning basketball, just not particularly appealing to the very top notch players needed to get to the top of the game.

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by kywineman on May 10, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's fair to say ...

… is that Smith’s system didn’t fit Rondo’s strengths. Smith did not, and never has run, a system in which Rondo would realize his full potential. Calipari does, Roy Williams does, and a few other college coaches do.

Smith was not as rigid as all that, he just had a philosophy that made it much tougher for Rondo to showcase his freakish athleticism and quickness off the dribble. Also, the team that surrounded Rondo did not lend itself to the kind of game that Rondo would shine in, and Sharp points that out in his piece above.

Overall, Rondo would probably have been better off in Pitino’s system, but I’m glad he went here and not there. Plus, the defensive principles and discipline he learned here unquestionably did him a lot of good at the next level.

But in spite of all that, Rondo was very good at Kentucky.

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by Glenn Logan on May 11, 2010 6:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rondo Was Offered By Louisville As HS Junior

Both he and Chris Lofton had U of L offers in 2003 but declined to accept.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 11, 2010 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rondo is Talented

He is a great defensive player
In saying this I could never figure out why he never played to his ability at ky, especially in Tubbys system.
I think he was hard-headed and caused chemistry issues. Doc and Rondo had the same issue the 1st few yrs he was in the league.

by LJMKYFAN on May 10, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Patrick Sparks may have something to say about that....

I think Rondo and Tubby just weren’t on the same page for whatever reason.

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on May 10, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I totally agree

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 10, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tell use about Sparks and Rondo

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 10, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paris, I know you will get something from this, you owe it to yourself to watch it.

here you go

A little insight for you…..maybe it will make you feel better about what UK is doing. Also, those 15 championships you always mention are NC/SEC, so I would say there is a shot at UK making it…..

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by ALLBLUCAT on May 11, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I completely agree Ky Girl Tink, I have said the same exact thing before

I don’t know why we didn’t get the potential from Rondo that he clearly had when he was at UK. And I don’t think it is as simple as the fact that he ‘bloomed’ later.
I always felt there was a weird dynamic between Rondo, Sparks, and Tubby and this isn’t a criticism of any one of them. But you have to wonder what we did -not wrong-but not as well as we should have with Rondo.

by StillCatwoman on May 10, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was bad chemistry there.

That’s just what it was. It happens.

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by Glenn Logan on May 10, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen

Went to many a party and had to listen to donna talked about the rotten apple in the barrel that messed up the team chemistry…

by Foxtrail1 on May 10, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point.

I should have put that in there, but it slipped my mind. Thanks for pointing it out.

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by Glenn Logan on May 10, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maturity helps a lot of people

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on May 10, 2010 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Rondo is now enjoying the fruits of working for a coach who not only makes him work harder

like Tubby did, but who actually played his position and has made a huge difference in his game…..and he will tell you that too.

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by ALLBLUCAT on May 10, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

True.

With Rondo, I think it was a big part maturity and a big part a system that allows his skills to shine. Rondo was not a great fit for Smith’s system, but he could have been much better than he was.

Rondo took too many chances defensively. Yeah, he got a lot of steals, but he also got burned much more. That’s a lot to do with the maturity part.

But Rondo had the best handle of any guard I ever saw at Kentucky, and that includes John Wall.

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by Glenn Logan on May 10, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was those huge hands...;)
But Rondo had the best handle of any guard I ever saw at Kentucky

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by SevenRings on May 10, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lord I Apologize.......

and be with the starvin pygmies down there in New Guinea….Amen…..

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by ALLBLUCAT on May 10, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh.

Love that LTCG reference.

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by Glenn Logan on May 10, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent Observation

If Rondo had been as mature as John Wall — or as willing to work with his coach as John Wall was — he would have been a much better contributor during his 2 years at Kentucky. I always thought Rondo kept trying to do his own personal thing — often to the detriment of the team.

If I recall correctly, Rondo credited Coach Smith with greatly improving his defensive play.

Patrick Sparks provided some great moments as a player — he was fun to watch, very clever with the ball, a great competitor, good shooter — but he didn’t have the size, quickness or speed needed to be a real difference maker on both ends of the court.

Combine Sparks’ savvy with Rondo’s athleticism and you have a great basketball player. As a pro, Rondo has developed some of the Sparks’ savvy.

by Fortunatus on May 10, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know,

I think John Wall’s coach worked with him as well.

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by kywineman on May 10, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOW tru and parisguy

put on your big girl panties………lots of whinning,Cuz caught a knee in the head a forearm is what it is as far as boston they have no shot at Cuz,hell be long gone by then if Cuz is there at the 4th pick 3 teams need to fire their G.M. (dont care about punction or spelling didnt make it to college i have to use my back to work)

by onemaco on May 10, 2010 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Eh?

Cousins does not have the right to retaliate. My point is, and was, that characterizing that retaliation as a punch or an elbow was wrong.

And I just got done giving Paris heck for snarky comments, and you bring one out? What’s up with that?

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by Glenn Logan on May 10, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

im just sayin

not ment to be snarky just try n 2 calm you guyz down Cuz took alot of crap this year,anyone who really watched him knows the cheap shots he got hit with,the national media keeps questioning his maturity,i think Cuz showed a whole lot of restraint,at 18 or 19 id took someones head off and cost myself and family tons of cash Cuz is a bigger man than I

by onemaco on May 10, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can calm myself down, thanks. :-)

Cuz did get hit with a lot of cheapies, no doubt. I think he did pretty well.

The only thing that really got me was in the game against WVU. He was bitching and complaining to the officials the whole game, and I just wish he would knock that crap off and play ball.

But on the whole, I totally agree that he got a lot more than he gave.

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by Glenn Logan on May 10, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

drank 2 much

Thank god i dont remember the WVU thanks to that lwild turkey rare breed but the complaing they do (players) gets on my nerves,its a waste of time and serves no purpose at all

by onemaco on May 10, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh.

You gotta watch that bird. It’ll getcha. :-)

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by Glenn Logan on May 10, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

We call

Wild Turkey 101 proof “The Kickin’ Chicken”.

by don'tshootmei'macard on May 10, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad

you’ll never call the Yum house that.

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by kywineman on May 10, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Good one, Jay Leno. You’re a comic genius!

And yes, that is sarcasm.

by don'tshootmei'macard on May 10, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tru

As a big fan of the league-Cuz ain’t seen nothing yet! He has not played a rough or hard game yet. From here on the game speeds up and everyone is as big or bigger. It don’t help to complain. Just pick up your “lunch pail” and go back to work. It is a JOB now!

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by oldcat70 on May 10, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's true.

And if he thinks he’s been hacked in college, he is in for a real eye-opener in the NBA.

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by Glenn Logan on May 11, 2010 6:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Doc Rivers Said

That for a player to reach his potential he must work at 3 things in 3 stages:

1) Earn a spot on the team
2) Earn the respect of the team
3) Continue to develop skills

And that he never knew a player who worked harder than Rondo at those things and even at the current level continues to work just as hard.

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by Wild Weasel on May 10, 2010 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I totally agree.

Rondo has improved every single part of his game since he came to Boston, and if he hasn’t earned this team’s respect, then it’s now their problem. :-) But I know he has.

He got a little lucky with the Telfair thing. But luck is part of life.

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by Glenn Logan on May 10, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Luck is where

preparation meets opportunity.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on May 10, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

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by Glenn Logan on May 11, 2010 6:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I occasionally get in trouble

on ASOB for nasty comments, and deservedly so. But I never post anything – positive, negative, or neutral – on other schools’ blogs. In the immortal words of Gene Tracy, I don’t turn their sisters’ red lights off when they’re working. I guess I’m in trouble again. To quote ABC, “Lord, I apologize.”

I may be paranoid, but that doesn't mean they're not out to get me.

by UKCat on May 10, 2010 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Heh. No trouble.

Not unless you mean my sister. :-)

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by Glenn Logan on May 10, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nor do I UKCat

I can count on one hand the total times I have went to another blog to read without a link from someone here. No interest whatsoever.

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by a2d2 on May 11, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

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