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Kentucky Basketball: Wrapping Up 2009-2010

Congratulations to the Duke Blue Devils for winning their fifth fourth NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament championship.  The game was well played by both teams and was in doubt up until the very last shot by Gordon Hayward of the Butler Bulldogs nearly went in from half court.

That puts the period to the 2009-2010 season, and it was a good one for the Kentucky Wildcats.  Obviously, no Kentucky fan can be happy that the team fell short of glory this year, losing to a gritty West Virginia Mountaineers team in the East regional final, but there is still a lot to be proud of.  Here are just a few superlatives:

  • Best winning percentage in Division I college basketball this year (35-3/0.921)
  • SEC regular season championship, SEC Tournament championship
  • 7-2 record against the Top 25
  • 22-3 against the RPI top 100
  • 2 first-team AP All-Americans (John Wall, DeMarcus Cousins, most of any team) and one honorable mention (Patrick Patterson, most overall)
  • 3 first-team all SEC (Wall, Cousins, Patterson)
  • Rupp POY award for John Wall and COY award for John Calipari
  • SEC POY and Freshman POY (John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins)
  • First team in history to 2000 wins

I could go on and on, but you get the idea.  Kentucky achieved most of their goals for this year with the glaring exception of a national title, and even though that's really the only one most of the Big Blue Nation really remember, I think this team will go down in history as the one that brought Kentucky back from the dark place where they had wandered for years to the light of national prominence.

Star-divide

So now that the last near-miss has clanged off the rim, our reward, dear Kentucky fan, is to wander in the wilderness of doubt and angst for the next few weeks waiting for the game of "Will I stay or will I go?" to be fully played out.  Mixed in with that will be the joy (and perhaps also some disappointment) of the recruiting trail.  Kentucky will almost certainly sign some of the uncommitted recruits that have been holding out to see who stays and who goes for the Wildcats, so naturally, most of our attention will turn to what shape next year will take.

Here are some of the things we will be watching here at A Sea of Blue besides the player shuffle and recruiting:

  • The coaching carousel -- It looks like the SEC will have only one coaching change, Tony Barbee replaces Jeff Lebo for the Auburn Tigers.  But there has already been one other significant non-SEC change as of last night -- Oliver Purnell of the Clemson Tigers has accepted the job for the DePaul Blue Demons.
  • The SEC tournament -- Will that be changed to open seeding rather than East/West?
  • The NCAA tournament expansion -- Why mess with a good thing?  So you can screw it up, of course.
  • Other major comings and goings at the player level, especially in the SEC.
  • NCAA rule changes.
  • The NBA situation (lockout vs. no lockout)
  • Calipari's reflections and ruminations on this season and next.
  • Of course, we will be talking about other UK sports such as football, baseball, etc.

A couple of these deserve comment right now.  Unlike many national pundits, I am not shocked that Oliver Purnell left Clemson.  Purnell was coming under some fire in Clemson after his team's loss to the Missouri Tigers made his record in the NCAA tournament 0-6, and like Tubby Smith before him, decided to "git while the gittin' was good."  It will be very interesting to see who Clemson goes after to replace him, but I think Butler coach Brad Stevens has to be on their list of candidates.

The second thing is the SEC Tournament seeding.  After due consideration, I think this East/West thing makes no sense.  Just seed the whole thing based on their conference season results.  The East/West setup punishes teams who wind up in the stronger division that have better records, and that just isn't really fair.  The divisions were set up primarily for football, anyway, and even though it is a factor in the conference season (the SEC does not play a true round-robin), I think overall that just seeding according to overall conference standing is more fair, and would make for a better tournament.

The third thing is the NBA lockout.  Aaron's UK Basketball Blog argues today that the players considering moving on to the NBA should not consider the potential lockout when making their decision.  Overall, I find that argument pretty persuasive, based on what I've read about the matter.  The rookie pay scale does not seem to be a bone of contention, although to be fair, the overall split of the revenue between the NBA and the players is a major issue.  It is possible that could trickle all the way down to the rookies, but I tend to doubt it.

The last thing I want to comment on is the NCAA Tournament expansion.  Just don't do it.  We are rendering the regular season meaningless, and sacrificing a perfectly good setup on the altar of protecting coach's jobs.

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dUKe's title..

Is it there 4th or 5th?? Espn has it as there 4th.

by tisbutterboy on Apr 6, 2010 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

i'm pretty sure it's their 4th

They moved one ahead of KU, and are still behind UCLA (11), UK (7), and UNC (5).

GO BIG BLUE!! GO BIG BLUE!!

by UKWildCatFanatic on Apr 6, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

4th

They won the championship in 1991, 1992, 2001 and 2010.

by per4mance on Apr 6, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well ...

… that’s a correction I enjoyed making. :-)

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by Glenn Logan on Apr 6, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see the SEC seed the tournament the way the MAC does.

Yeah, this is probably the only time I’ll suggest that the SEC should emulate the MAC, and I don’t know, maybe other conferences seed this way as well.

The top overall team gets the #1 seed. The top team from the other division gets the #2 seed. The rest of the teams are seeded without regard to divisions.

by cmadler on Apr 6, 2010 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe I "could not care less."

I suppose I could care less, e.g., I might care less about whether Coach K is happy than how the SEC tourney is seeded.

Either way, it is not a big deal to me.

by JackBluto on Apr 6, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coach K

looks a little too “blissfully happy” at being hugged by one of his players on a picture I saw of the team on ESPN.com. He doesnt look excited like a coach that just won a championship, but rather just happy being held.

Just sayin’.

http://espn.go.com/

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Apr 6, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coach K cries more than Tebow after SEC championship games.

He once said in apost game NCAA Tourney interview that it wasn’t about winning and losing for him. It was about the relationships he forms with his players. (Yes, that was after a loss – the LSU loss a few years ago I believe).

The refs he cusses at worse than sled dogs might disagree, but that is what that wanker said.

Then he and Reddick exchanged long hugs again and mouth kissed.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that. Plus, that last thing about the mouth kissing might have been made up.

by JackBluto on Apr 6, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly

I think Tubby to Clemson makes a ton of sense….just throwing that out there.

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 6, 2010 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

It is logical, having coached at nearby Georgia.

But I don’t really see it happening.

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by Glenn Logan on Apr 6, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

dUKe 's 4th

I believe it is only their 4th. I know that Rat Face has won 4 which ties him with Coach Rupp…which kind of sucks. Hopefully that will be his last. Anyone know how old he is?

by Kelkat66 on Apr 6, 2010 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

It is exactly this kind of name calling that has no place on a great discussion cite like this.

Please stop immediately, or my client will consider legal action.

JackBluto
Attorney, National Organization Against Rat Defamation

by JackBluto on Apr 6, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon ABC

we’re talkin’ lawyers here. lol

by hoboat33 on Apr 6, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rats can afford my fee.

Besides, they consider being compared to Coach K as defamation.

So yes, I’ll represent them. :)

by JackBluto on Apr 6, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh.

They updated Wikipedia so fast, I didn’t even look. I corrected the error.

For some reason, I thought they had won a NC back many years ago. Probably just my failing memory.

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by Glenn Logan on Apr 6, 2010 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks to Sea of Blue

I want to add a big Thanks to Tru and all of Sea of Blue. Another great year. Really, it helps your “fan-hood” to have a passionate but reasonable online outlet for following your favorite team. A Sea of Blue is definite that place.

After a long season, I am a weary of talking too much about this tourney expansion, but let me get once thing off my chest and then I am done (I think). The belief that expanding the NCAA tournament will improve coach’s job security is ridiculous. Do coaches really think ADs and fan bases will cut them additional slack just because they make a 96 team tournament? All it will do is raise the bar. Now, making the 65-team tournament is the standard but it will then move to making the 2nd or 3rd round at least for BCS conference teams. And, what happens now if you get “upset” (can those still happen now) and get beat by a 20th seed. Coaches are just giving themselves more rope to hang themselves on.

by KAMead on Apr 6, 2010 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

This I do care about.

I will really dislike a 96 team tourney. We have enough mediocrity in life. The Senate has only 100 folks, and it is hard finding 20 quality folks among them. We won’t even mention the House. Why do we think having that many for a basketball tourney makes sense?

by JackBluto on Apr 6, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prediction time in the Bluegrass:

Our 8th comes sometime in the next 3 years.

Next year’s squad will not be as closely knit as last year’s, but will be better rounded in overall talent.

One of these 3 will be back next year, Patterson, Orton, or Bledsoe.

Our new arena is announced in 2012, expected to open in 2016

Cal brings back more players to get their degrees.

Next year we have only 1 or 2 “one and dones”

Next year will not be “mid-major madness”.

Next year we will lose one of our first 15 games. We will also lose only 1 conference game.

We win the SEC reg season and Tourney again next year, oh yeah, and make the Final Four.

Big Blue Madness next year is something off the charts…….

We get 4 or more of the top 25 recruits.

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Apr 6, 2010 12:11 PM EDT reply actions  

We will lose a lot more games next year.

1 conference loss? No way.

Final four? I won’t say no way, but I really really doubt it.

This changes if Orton and Bledsoe return. But I really really doubt that too.

I think mid-major madness continues. Everything else you say – I’m at least 50/50 to agree.

by JackBluto on Apr 6, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with:

Our 8th comes sometime in the next 3 years.
Our new arena is announced in 2012, expected to open in 2016
Big Blue Madness next year is something off the charts…….
We get 4 or more of the top 25 recruits.

But the rest of those are a longshot in my opinion at best right now.

by Clint Phelps on Apr 6, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, forgot something......

Anyone see THIS?

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Apr 6, 2010 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Is there a land deal under investigation involving UK players?

So sayeth another troll commenter?

Tell me just another stupid “rumor” (as in, one person made it up and put it in a comment).

by JackBluto on Apr 6, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting -

and it seems to have all started when he got game tickets for the porn star.

by hoboat33 on Apr 6, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

No problem with the seeding in the SEC tournament

I don’t have a problem with the SEC EAST/WEST brackets. I thought the best teams played in the semis and finals.
To make it any more equal you would need to have everyone play twice or just once and then seed the teams.

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on Apr 6, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

What if the SEC expands though?

If the Big Televen expands by more than one team, I can see the SEC going to 14.

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 6, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish that would happen, but the question is, who comes in???.....are there 2 teams out there

floating without a home that we would want in the SEC?

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Apr 6, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

They would be taken from someone else most likely.

Home and home the entire SEC though is still 22 regular season games. It would limit the pre-season schedule and start SEC play in December. I don’t think we need or want that.

by JackBluto on Apr 6, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

FSU has more of an SEC culture than ACC culture frankly. Clemson probably is a better fit than Tech though. But there may be no reason to leave the ACC for them. If something more than Notre Dame joining the Big 10 happens, I think a lot of rearrangment could happen. But not likely.

by JackBluto on Apr 6, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Louisville?

They would be two more we could chase to get to respecitiblity in football.
I was thinking Ga Tech and Louisviille. A natural rival, two teams from the state as in Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi,
The SEC has enough weak teams in basketball, the lesser talented ones would still be climbing up hill.
One the other hand. Playing everyone twice would only eleminate six ‘buy’ wins and definitely make it more interesting.

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on Apr 7, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Those six "buy" wins could crowd out real games.

Like the pre-season tourneys and the UNC, IU, and other home/home or neutral cite games.

Those buy wins, if chosen carefully, also get us higher seeds.

by JackBluto on Apr 7, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would love to see it, but do you really think that UL would leave the

Big East after all of their success in it?

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Apr 7, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really do. I don’t think there is a team in the south that wouldn’t love to be in the SEC. Maybe the baskball powers in the ACC but Clemson, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Miami, Tulane, which was in the SEC once as was Georgia Tech, I think, would all benefit from the exposure.
The ones that wouldn’t fit would be there Dukes and North Carolinas, who would game nothing from being in the conference. I bet the Cats, and us would love to gett them on the schedute.
Imagine the Cats getting to play two basketball schools kike that on a regular season schedule.
Virginia might be another good entry to the SEC. North Carolina’s football is improving so maybe they would fit better in the Western Division, Just joking.

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on Apr 7, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope youre right, with all of the realignment talk, and teams wanting to get into that

expanded tournament…..maybe we will see it happen

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Apr 7, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

UK would never agree to being in the same conference as Louisville,

just like South Carolina would not go for Clemson and Florida would not go for Florida St. Too much animosity with no history to time them together like Alabama/Auburn. IMO the expansion discussion for the SEC begins and ends with Texas. If they want it, you take them and find someone else. If they don’t want in, don’t split the football money into any more pieces.

by wklawdog on Apr 7, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well......?

How about Akron, Charleston Southern and Western Kentucky? Then Paris wouldn’t have to complain about our OOC schedule in football.

Actually, I wouldn’t want to see the SEC expand. It’s good that every team gets to play everyone once and in division twice. Expanding the conference would either lead to a less complete conference schedule or fewer OOC games. In football, no team is going to want to take on any more in-conference games so the increase would lead to even longer periods between playing certain teams. I look at the SEC as a private club with ceiling cap of 12 members.

by hoboat33 on Apr 6, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll all for it!

Damn right! And they could got to three divisions.
The new one could contain
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
Western Kentucky
Norfork State
Charleston Southern
Centre

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on Apr 7, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ton of re-alignment rumors

involving every major conference. Just depends on what chips fall. Could take some ACC schools (like mentioned below). I’ve heard rumors of the Big 12 replacing any teams that leave for the Big 10 with Arkansas. It is all up in the air, everyone is waiting on the Big Televen. The easiest solution would be Notre Dame joining the Big Televen.

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 6, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would you feel the same...

if your team had to play an extra game while two teams with worse records got a bye?

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Apr 6, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm.

I’m not sure but I bet it wouldnt make me “BARF…” or seriously have any acid reflux.

I’m just curious. If you feel so strongly about UK and Cal and whatever else it is and you go back to your own site to make fun of us over here (LOL) what is the draw for you coming over here anyway? I LOATHE Pearl, but rather liked Kiffin (though that turned out to be a mistake) but I visit RTT from time to time because I like Hooper and a couple of the others over there, but it doesnt seem to me that you really like anyone over here. Like I said, I’m just curious.

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Apr 6, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

What have I said or done which would indicate that...

I “don’t really like anyone over here”? Just curious as well.

Also, what have I done or said that you considered “making fun” of you? Are you talking about the LOL thing? I thought everyone seemed to be laughing (LOL) about that. Were Hooper and Bobo making fun of you as well?

Are you seriously bashing me for not loving on Calipari on RTT? I didn’t nor wouldn’t post that here; now people have to come looking on my home site in order to get upset with me. Also, am I the only person that’s posted something there that you don’t like?

So you’re curious why I come over here? Okay, here’s why. There are some very intelligent, funny, reasonable, and informed people who post here. In particular there are several women. I am a woman who loves sports, and I love to talk to intelligent, funny, reasonable and informed people about them. There are many such people on RTT, but not a lot of them are women. I had heard the people here were good to talk to, but I learned very quickly they are open to any sort of criticism of their coach, even if done in a joking way. So I decided it was worth keeping my criticism to myself, and respecting your “home”, so to speak, in order to come visit. Apparently some people here have decided that’s not enough. I’m not welcome no matter what. So I will well and truly stay away. So long…..

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Apr 6, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

but I learned very quickly they are open to any sort of criticism of their coach

should read

but I learned very quickly they are not open to any sort of criticism of their coach

"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti

by sddbaker on Apr 6, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

That lasted less than 6hrs.

Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !

by oldcat70 on Apr 7, 2010 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm loved!

;-)

I promise I’m staying completely out of all this, but I do have to note that the lot of you would make for a great time in a real face-to-face situation. And I meant that seriously.

As for the LOLs, since I’m one of the prime culprits on that, I will say it’s all in good fun. And things like LOL, ;-), etc. are rapidly becoming vital parts of net chatting as they help make up for the loss of visual and vocal cues in conversation. (That, and I’m sure Tru cringes every time we refer to ASOB as LOL-heavy. Love ya, Tru! … LOL)

by David Hooper on Apr 7, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are loved!!!

By far my favorite Tennessee fan EVER! ;)

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Apr 8, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank God for ASoB

I just got done perusing the Kentucky Sports Radio comments and…wow. Lots of hate, rancor, ill will, etc., over there for just about everything imaginable. This site is always a breath of fresh air. Keep it up, guys!

by chstrckwl on Apr 6, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Never read the comments on KSR

Lost of good info from the guys who post there, but the comments should be avoided like a drunken Karen Sypher.

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 6, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Sea Of Blue

I only found this cite this year, but I want to say that the conversation and discussion here is hands down the best I have found among UK fan cites. There is disagreement here, and very little “are you a REAL UK fan” type talk. The idiots are seldom if ever here (me excluded) and the folks here are not too bad at looking at the world through blue glasses (heck, we all do it sometimes).

I was typing this as chstrckwl’s comment popped up. Great minds and all.

by JackBluto on Apr 6, 2010 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

If

and that’s a big IF (one of our favorite pasttimes) the last second bank shot by Hayward had gone in, I might have finally been able to get over the Laettner shot. Alas, it was not to be. Damn!

by hoboat33 on Apr 6, 2010 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

If it was only that easy

Some things you never get over. I still can’t believe that Laettner shot went in. I never will.

by KAMead on Apr 6, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it DID go in.

So did U. S. Reed’s shot. (Anyone? Bueller?).

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Apr 6, 2010 5:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

By the way you're correct, Dog.

Hope you didn’t feel too provoked coming up with that answer.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Apr 7, 2010 12:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

What do you mean?

Relax, I was empathizing by sharing a similar defeat by having some fun with a little trivia. Good grief.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Apr 7, 2010 12:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well you are wrong then.

I’ll take that as an apology. Thank you.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Apr 7, 2010 7:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Clemson

The Purnell change pisses me off – it only serves to underscore how incompetent, uneducated, and out of touch with reality my fellow Tigers are when it comes to basketball.

I was at Clemson when Purnell took over that job and was going to games when you could literally count the exact attendance in about 3 minutes. What he did for the school and the program was outstanding, but there are morons who just don’t get it don’t understand what a good thing we had.

3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.

by JLeverenz on Apr 6, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Unrealistic Fans

I don’t fully get why critics complain about the “unrealistic” expectations of UK fans when virtually every school/fan base is guilty of the same thing from time to time. You have to judge your current expectations with what your program has traditionally done. I didn’t follow Clemson closely, but I thought the program was moving in a good direction, and they had some nice teams there recently. Did the AD/fans really expect NCAA glory to come faster than the 6 years Purnell was there? As our friend in Louisville would said, “Tree Rollins isn’t walking through the door.”

by KAMead on Apr 6, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think fans expected an NCAA tourney win this year

Actually, there’s a pretty good comparison to be made between Clemson basketball and UK football in terms of history, tradition (or lack thereof) and current success.

 If you think of where UK football fans would be if Rich Brooks had gone to three straight bowl games but hadn’t won any of them, that’s where a lot of Clemson basketball fans are right now I think.

3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.

by JLeverenz on Apr 6, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now that DePaul and Houston have both filled their job openings

Where does this leave Billy Gillispie?

I figured he’d take one of those jobs. I don’t think Oregon or Clemson would be a good fit for him, but where else could he wind up?

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Apr 6, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

rofl

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Apr 7, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

2010 Reminded Me Of 2003

35-3. 32-4. Both led Div I in W-L (%) record.

SEC champs. SECT champs. #1 seed in NCAA. #1 or #2 poll ranking. Elite 8 but disappointing L to a lesser team at the end. (Both years)

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 6, 2010 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

UK professor to appear tonight on "Anderson Cooper 360"

to talk about low graduation rates for student athletes. A link was in the news wire section for KSR but I wanted to post it here also.
Here is the Kentucky Kernel link.

I thought since it was tonight, more people might see it here instead of the FanShots.

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 6, 2010 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

10 pm EST on CNN, if you didn't know.

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 6, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just so everyone knows,

this is not supposed to be anti-UK. It is supposedly about the networks and their choices of setting game times that interfere with classes. Now, maybe I have said my say. ;-)

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 6, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just when you think

it can’t get any funnier…it does. An early top 25 for next season and Ky is not on the list.

http://beyondthearc.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/04/05/2258458.aspx

Guess that settles it for our angst for next year.

by CAWebb on Apr 6, 2010 6:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I have seen some similar polls

Not really sure how anyone can argue with this. No one knows who will even be on the team, let alone how good they will be. Ironically, Beyond the Arc also has projections for the 2011 seeding and UK is a 2 seed. So there you go.

2011 Seeding – Beyond the Arc

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Apr 6, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well ...

… he does explain why. How can you put UK on the list when over half the team is set to declare for the NBA draft?

:-)

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by Glenn Logan on Apr 6, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Until we have some recruits committed, I agree

Would you put a team with this starting line-up in the top 25?

DeAndre Liggins
John Hood
Darius Miller
Stacey Poole
Enis Kanter

And on the bench they bring Josh Harrelson.

I sure wouldn’t.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Apr 7, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would anyone

pick us (UK) in a poll with 4 known returning players?

Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !

by oldcat70 on Apr 6, 2010 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Heh, I sure wouldn't

Does anyone know what the “record” is for fewest returning players in D1? I bet it’s nowhere near 4, especially if you limit it to teams that don’t change coaches.

3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.

by JLeverenz on Apr 6, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forty

Sometimes you come up stats that are, amazing !! 4 returning players, huh? The record was, yeah, so-so. I certainly am not going to think about that stat. ;-)

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 6, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cornell had 8 seniors this year

They’ll return a similar amount.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Apr 7, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

The difference is... their coach bolted for Boston College!

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Apr 7, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Georgia Had 8 Seniors In 1995-96

They returned 4 or 5 players in 1996-97 yet exceeded the prior year’s results (24 W not 21 W the year B4).

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 7, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why can't we be as good?

I cant’ believe that the Cats wouldn’t be ranked in the top 25 of next year. I don’t think we were in the top 25 at the end of Gillispie’s final year. Didn’t Cal go out in bring in a super class of recruits and stay in the top five almost, if not, all season?
You mean we are not going to get at least three of those who are not signed? No way!
And I’m being serious. How can a guy who has been labeled the coach of one and done point guards not get one to try to fill Wall’s shoes. Didn’t Shelby say he want to do the same?
I don’t think the quality of recruits he got why playing in what ever conference he was in a Memphis and winning all those games are going to be good enough at Lexington.
But then again, this ain’t my sport so I could and probably am wrong.

Dont you all go and burst my bubble and tell me we aren’t back and last year was a fluke.

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on Apr 7, 2010 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Cal will probably bring in a great class, but

it is not believed that the freshman class for all of basketball next year is as good as the freshman class of this year. So, while Cal could bring in the #1 class again, it may not do as well.
Having said that, since all teams are losing talent and replacing it with lesser versions, the possibility for a great run is there if the players learn, mature and blend.

by wklawdog on Apr 7, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

UNC 2009 And 2010

Lost lots of talent after 2009 NC.

Signed lots of talent (5 HS A-A) as replacements.

20-17, NIT runner-up.

It’s very hard to repeat 35 W (or even 30 W) seasons.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 7, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Certainly, with Cal’s five thirty win seasons in a row, you aren’t saying we mght be NIT material next year!
Can you inmagine that?

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on Apr 8, 2010 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

No

UK has been to the NIT only 3 times in my lifetime (born in 1951).

Only 1976, 1979, and 2009.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 8, 2010 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

This Season Was A "Fluke" In This Sense

30 W seasons are UK are pretty rare. 35 W seasons are VERY rare – 2010 was the 4th such total (35+ W) in UK basketball history.

The 5 freshman and 1 sophomore (JuCo) recruits who made up the 2009 recruiting class is one of the best classes EVER signed by UK or anyone. Only 1979 and 1992 classes are comparable in UK history. Michigan 1991, UCLA 1965 and 1970, not many others.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 7, 2010 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

More like Embellishing 2009-2010

“7-2 record against the Top 25” how do you figure!!! 1-2 is a more realistic account. 1-1 vs Tennessee and 0-1 against West Virginia. Who are the six other wins?

by James will do on Apr 12, 2010 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

2-1 versus Tennessee, for one thing.

North Carolina, UConn, Florida and Mississippi were ranked at the time we played them. Wake Forest was ranked at one point in the season, as well.

by KYvampyre on Apr 13, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well if you are going to use the logic "of they were ranked at one point this year", you need to add Cornell, Louisville and two games against Vanderbilt. This then leads to the exaggerated total of 11 and 2 against Top 25 teams. Like I originally said, this is quite the embellished superlative for Kentucky. I am not sure I would claim Vanderbilt (RPI 26) twice, Wake (RPI 32), Cornell (RPI 37), Louisville (RPI 45), Ole Miss (RPI 55), Florida (RPI 60) twice, UNC (RPI 62), and UConn (RPI 65) as Top 25 teams in my wrapping up the season article.

by James will do on Apr 13, 2010 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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