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This is like Christmas being cancelled....

we get to watch another program (not named UK) win another championship. Butler may not be healthy enough to give their best performance.

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Apr 5, 2010 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Butler probably

has more fans in Kentucky than in Indianapolis tonight : )

by blue kentucky girl on Apr 5, 2010 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

You may be right about that

I like your new avatar, btw. Though I liked the glasses.

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 5, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

I felt I should change into more seasonal attire : )

 BTW, is it still an avatar if it is just a picture of yourself??

by blue kentucky girl on Apr 5, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Profile pic, we will say :-)

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 5, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on Butler..!!!!!!!

Would be an amazing accomplishment, but Duke probably has too much size for the Bulldogs…

Steelers 6 rings, Wildcats 7 Banners..!! Winning never gets old...!!!!

by vinceuk1 on Apr 5, 2010 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Here's my prediction....

I think Duke will score more points then Butler and win the game.
However, if Butler were to score more points then Duke, then I would give them the win.
It all depends on which team can score the most points, IMO.

It’s going to be a tough one to predict, until it’s over and then it will be very clear who won.

Well, that’s my prediction, I think… wish me luck…

Oh yeah, laughter keeps the heart and mind young.!!!! Enjoy the game folks..! :)

Steelers 6 rings, Wildcats 7 Banners..!! Winning never gets old...!!!!

by vinceuk1 on Apr 5, 2010 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

So true
laughter keeps the heart and mind young.!!!!

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 5, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

My prediction?

Pain

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 5, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

For which team?

Or should I ask, for Wildcat fans?

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 5, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Butler, unfortunately

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 5, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clubber Lang reference ftw

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Apr 5, 2010 10:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm bailing out early

if this gets ugly. I cannot abide watching Duke win this thing. Ew

by blue kentucky girl on Apr 5, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

LETS

GO BUTLER>>>>>>>>>>>can we do the CATS cheer for Bulldogs :)

by tenken on Apr 5, 2010 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

U

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 5, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

T!

is this how a butler cheer goes?

by blue kentucky girl on Apr 5, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

E!

this is not nearly as fluid as C-A-T-S

by blue kentucky girl on Apr 5, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

R

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 5, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mack is on his game.

Howardis still woozy. Getting easy shots but still 0-3, 1-4.

by JackBluto on Apr 5, 2010 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

anyone drinking NOW

so that they will be good and wasted by the time Duke likely wins this thing? I’m going with mojitos.

by blue kentucky girl on Apr 5, 2010 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't watch this

It’s just making me ill. These two teams can’t even guard each other.

I know our Cats didn’t earn the right to do so, but they should have been here and waxed the floor with both of these frauds.

by BCCatFan on Apr 5, 2010 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

UK would not have easily beaten Duke last Saturday if at all given the way they played.

Certainly it would have been very tough. Duke was on offensively.

Last night’s championship game notwithstanding.

But yes, UK would have had an easier time against Duke and Butler than it did WVU. Sometimes, basketball is about matchups. Butler beat big teams, but none of these teams scored inside as often or as well as UK, so I think we would have matched them up well. We would not have had a lot of break away baskets though.

by JackBluto on Apr 6, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Butler is a fighten'...

Steelers 6 rings, Wildcats 7 Banners..!! Winning never gets old...!!!!

by vinceuk1 on Apr 5, 2010 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Shelvin Mack

is from Lexington. It is bred in him to hate Duke. ;)

It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.

by kentuckygirl0724 on Apr 5, 2010 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Down with the dookies

I would love to see a bunch of TV analysts with egg on their face. It would be like watching Bobby Knight while we all yelled KENTUCKY, KENTUCKY, KENTUCKY. They outlaw torture like that in the military, you know.

by sweasyf on Apr 5, 2010 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Kellog is calling this game?

He lost at HORSE to Obama. And if any of you saw Obama throw out the first pitch today, you know he isn’t very good. Makes me wonder about special-K.

by sweasyf on Apr 5, 2010 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

He was kissing ass, missed on purpose

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 5, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did the Reds play today?

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Poop-holes blew up for 2 HRs

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 5, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

reds lost 11-6

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 5, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks coop,

I really would love to see them do well, again.

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

As would I a2

However, Dusty Baker makes that impossible……sigh……

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 5, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am a fan.....

I used to me more so, and at one game my son did get hit in the head with a foul ball…..lol

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only thing the reds are missing now is a competent manager

Have decent pitching (except Lincoln), and a decent lineup. Problem is, Dusty likes to run out the worst possible lineups he can……and he ruins pitchers……I could go on and on, but I’ll save that for Red Reporter…..

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 5, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand the fandom thing '-)

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I cait wait for Dusty to get fired

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 5, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Admittedly,

I’ve seen very little of Butler, but they never get rattled. Seems a lot of this comes from their coach. I can’t believe at 33 he’s so comfortable being in this game. I’ve been very impressed with him.. and his story. Go Butler.

by hoboat33 on Apr 5, 2010 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I think he stays

Not really any decent jobs open

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 5, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

if he does

I hope he gets a BIG raise, hes erned it

by Bluehound on Apr 5, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I think the only way he leaves anytime in the next few years is for a big program. He’s not going to leave for an Iowa St. or anything like that.

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 5, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oregon is a big money job

But I think he stays. The entire team is presumably coming back.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Apr 5, 2010 10:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'd guess

he’ll stay one more year then on to a lower level Div 1 team on the level of Conference USA or possibly a bottom feeder team in a major conference. Hope he doesn’t go for the bottom feeder school tho, he’d have more upside getting non-BCS program on an upswing.

In any case, I just can’t see Butler coming up with the money he’s going to be worth after this year.

by hoboat33 on Apr 5, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he will learn from the Butler coaches before him.

Avoid going somewhere where you can’t win – 3 years and you are fired. Go somewhere where you can win (Ohio State – Motta for example) and you can succeed. That means a good but bigger mid-major or a good BCS team with potential and a few returning players. Oregon might actually fit that model, but he wouldn’t be hurt waiting a year and getting another 30 win season under his belt.

by JackBluto on Apr 6, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Matta went from Butler to Xavier didn't he?

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Apr 6, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dook up 1 at half

Come on Butler……..do this

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 5, 2010 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

How bout them Bulldawgs..!!!

Finally, the game where Duke gets to go home with the ‘L’ …. I hope. Go you Butlers :)

Got to admire their coach for calling a great game to this point.

by ukcris on Apr 5, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duke really only has hurt them on the offensive glass

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 5, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet they don't talk to one the parents of a Butler player......

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 5, 2010 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Some good D by the Dogs

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Mack!

he needs to take this game over

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 5, 2010 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Singler may be the ugliest person I have ever seen

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 5, 2010 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

whewww

glad you haven’t seen me….lol

by Bluehound on Apr 5, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

BS Call

that was a block

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 5, 2010 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

He was moving !!!!

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 5, 2010 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

both teams playing their guts out

as you expect

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Apr 5, 2010 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Its not a Duke game without a flop or two

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Apr 5, 2010 10:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Butler

continues to make other teams look bad. If they can pull this off, I may have to send Butler $25 in appreciation for beating D—-.

by hoboat33 on Apr 5, 2010 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Think

Butler would be frustrating UK?

by hoboat33 on Apr 5, 2010 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

That's a question that will always haunt me.....

’-)

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 5, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

This has been

A great game so far.

Screw Miss Sue!! Screw Her With the Neyland Zombie Army!!

by bobo_the_vol on Apr 5, 2010 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

yes it has

Butler has proven they belong

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Apr 5, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

Much better than expected.

by hoboat33 on Apr 5, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh well Butler

 if you can’t make shots you can’t win

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Apr 5, 2010 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Timing:

It means something.

Screw Miss Sue!! Screw Her With the Neyland Zombie Army!!

by bobo_the_vol on Apr 5, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

OOOOOO

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 5, 2010 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Tough who to root for:

I love Butler and their story, but if Duke wins my final paper will be graded by a happy professor. Egads.

Screw Miss Sue!! Screw Her With the Neyland Zombie Army!!

by bobo_the_vol on Apr 5, 2010 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd love to be sitting with Vitale

right now. I’d be yelling “JUST WINNNNN BAAYYBEEEEEEEEE!”

by hoboat33 on Apr 5, 2010 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 5, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

one time

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Apr 5, 2010 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Clark K

understatement “Zoubgek did move him a little bit”. Sheesh.

by hoboat33 on Apr 5, 2010 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

come on Mack

time be a hero

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Apr 5, 2010 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

My thoughts exactly

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 5, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was 5 on the zoo .....

13 sec …. make it you win miss it you lose .. good for Butler to be in this situation

by ukcris on Apr 5, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

That was a bad

no call on Zoubek but there have been a lot of non-calls both ways.

by hoboat33 on Apr 5, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nnnnnoooo!!

Screw Miss Sue!! Screw Her With the Neyland Zombie Army!!

by bobo_the_vol on Apr 5, 2010 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Feeling sick

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 5, 2010 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

OOHH!!!

Screw Miss Sue!! Screw Her With the Neyland Zombie Army!!

by bobo_the_vol on Apr 5, 2010 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, Damn

thought it was going in.

by hoboat33 on Apr 5, 2010 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

That almost went in !

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 5, 2010 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

As much as I hate to say it

Instant Classic

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Apr 5, 2010 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Very small

consolation but at least one of Duke players got absolutely KO’d on a screen.

by hoboat33 on Apr 5, 2010 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

A+ Block.

Screw Miss Sue!! Screw Her With the Neyland Zombie Army!!

by bobo_the_vol on Apr 5, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

CRAP

That sucks!

Changing how you think will change what you think.

by wilson452 on Apr 5, 2010 11:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Why? Why?

If that shot had went in, I would have still been happy dancing.

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 5, 2010 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I would

have waken the dead with shouts of joy – and danced with them.

by hoboat33 on Apr 5, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

my knee jerked up so hard, I broke the keyboard shelf. Wife and kids are going to be pissed at me tomorrow.

by hoboat33 on Apr 5, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just blame dUKe :-)

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 5, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some folks or Many folks might disagree but...

Duke came within a 3 point shot of losing to a very, very good mid major from the Horizan conference. Parity?

by blue oregon on Apr 5, 2010 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't believe its parity

the final four is almost always “BCS” conference schools year after year….except for UK of course

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Apr 5, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

One Shining Moment

Anyone think we got screwed? A one second-long clip of John Wall clapping.

by WildcatInHouston on Apr 6, 2010 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Missed it

but then, they probably knew there would be very few UK fans watching.

by hoboat33 on Apr 6, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I only watched because I haven’t missed One Shining Moment in years. I left a friend’s house to go home while Duke was celebrating and being interviewed. Made it home just in time for the song to start.

by WildcatInHouston on Apr 6, 2010 12:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Damn.

Two hours later, still disappointed.

by don'tshootmei'macard on Apr 6, 2010 1:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Well

Danggit, they almost pulled it off……….I hate that Butler lost it…….I think I was as disappointed in a non UK loss as I have ever been and most of it wasn’t about Duke winning. Butler so deserved that win. Butler played a Duke team that brought its A game tonight. I do think this is the second best championship game I have ever seen. Really good game

P.S. Yall I am getting a feeling that we will be getting some good news very very soon. don’t want to be made fun of for thinking it so I will keep it to myself but I am feeling good about some things.

by tenken on Apr 6, 2010 1:38 AM EDT reply actions  

If you think Wall and Cuz and PPat, or any one of them, are coming back...

… I will now make fun of you even though you didn’t say it.

That way, if it happens, you can say, “I told you so you mean spirited cynical poopey head!!!!!!!!!!!!”

Yes, poopey head is the word of the day today. Probably b/c we live in a Duke championship year.

by JackBluto on Apr 6, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

How on earth did you conclude she was thinking that?

She may be thinking anything.

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 6, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't conclude anything. That is why I said "if" -- it is conditional.

She may be thinking good recruiting news is on the horizon. Or maybe just that Cal isn’t going to the Nets after Coach K turns them down.

But I figured I’d give her a wish we all have that isn’t very likely so she could say “I told you so” later. It is an “I told you so” I’d love to have rubbed in my nose.

I also meant the comment in good humor, but I prefer not to overuse the smiley fact thing. In real life, I’m told I have a dry wit, at least by the people that get me at all. The rest say less kind things about me.

by JackBluto on Apr 6, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha

I felt I had to ask. I looked for a smiley face thing, so maybe, they sometimes work. :-)

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 6, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Post game on ESPN

The good and the stupid poopy heads:

1. Good points on parity
-most all of the really good mid-majors (Butler, N. Iowa, Murray, etc) were as good as the middle BSC type conference schools, and this tournament showed it on the neutral courts.
-parity exists primarily b/c the bigger programs lose guys early to the NBA. They mentioned the mass exodus from UNC and the likely one with UK as examples of how there would be no parity of those guys stay in school even 3 years much less 4.
2. Bobby Knight interviewed and against brought up one and dones and how they don’t even go to school in the spring. No mention I heard (even alluded) to Cal or UK. I hope all our players finish the spring as Wall already said he would. Orton is the question mark, I guess, but I would love to have that fact (all our 1ndones finished the semester) to counter-point our critics.
3. Butler’s coach will have people calling and his choice now is to be like Few at Zag and build his own mid-major dynasty or be like a Matta at Ohio St. and use this as a stepping stone to a major program.

Butler’s coach was just awesome in the post game. The only way it would have been better is if he had said “Duke sucks and y’all watch, Coach K will cry croc tears again before the night is over” before stepping off the podium.

by JackBluto on Apr 6, 2010 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

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