NCAA National Semifinals
by Glenn Logan on Apr 3, 2010 5:45 PM EDT
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Since I have the blog to myself tonight
I’ll go ahead and say it: The Cats would kill either of these teams playing now.
I’ll also say, the officiating in this game is wierd.
So, nothing but complaints from me tonight
The camera angle is not good and playing on the elevated floor is not helping either team.
I'm With You
Just not commenting since I’m on iPhone.
"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek
by Wild Weasel on Apr 3, 2010 6:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'll join for a bit.
Butler isn’t going to make it easy for MSU, thank goodness. How can you root against Coach K? (“K” as in Kid, not “K” as in Kyajkcbuttassiski.) Butler’s players are keeping their cool, no panic.
I agree with you, any team that can beat Syracuse
Should be able to hang with MSU. Good for Butler that Lucas is not playing tonight.
Good Clark Kellogism
He has to “look aggessively at the basket.” I guess he has to do that because he lacks “spurtability.”
can you imagine
if the tourney goes to ESPN and we miss our time in March with Clark Kellog and the gang??
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
126 O/U
Might be a bit high.
"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek
by Wild Weasel on Apr 3, 2010 6:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Their "big guy" has been out most of the half
Pretty fortunate to be as close as they are. They are hitting the defensive boards better than I thought they would
Even with Wall and Bledsoe,
We could have found plenty of minutes for Shelvin Mack, don’t you think?
Couple Of 5 Seeds
Played like it.
"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek
by Wild Weasel on Apr 3, 2010 7:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Mack & Hayward 2-Man Team
25 of 28.
"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek
by Wild Weasel on Apr 3, 2010 7:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Coach's Game So Far
As expected, system and discipline over talent.
"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek
Crummy Game, I Thought
Two 5 seeds playing like it.
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 3, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Plenty of discipline on both teams and the talent not too different either
In my view here. I’m no expert. Like you said, couple of 5 seeds
For the life of me, I don't understand the call
where the defender’s chest “fouls” the offensive player’s elbow
Appears Orton Is Out
Facebook states:
On to San Fran tomorrow….time to get to work
which intimates he’s leaving school — thus costing the Cats a scholarship. Classless if true.
"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek
Man, I cannot for the life of me see how staying in school 3-4 more weeks to save the
scholarship would cause him any delays. Starting to change my opinion about this guy.
Leaving School Not In Good Standing
i.e., not finishing the semester negatively impacts NCAA graduation rate rules and possibly to the point of negating a scholarship.
"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek
No Doubt The Case
But still leaving school for whatever reason is still negative — although he could come back for finals I suppose.
"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek
Certainly changes my opinion of ol' Ort!
Been a fan of his all year but this ain’t cool…
If your wings don't sweep....
I am
just wondering if he is just unhappy on the team and maybe he knows Cuz is coming back ?
Hey a girl can dream can’t she?
That's a good as one as any!! :-)
I just don’t get his thought process behind this… How can you go from sub to NBA 1st round?? If we was “better” than Cuz, why wasn’t he starting?? Like I said, somebody’s feeding him a line…
If your wings don't sweep....
I agree
it just doesn’t make sense to me. I know he is got an awesome vertical leap and excellent blocking skills but nothing jumped out at me saying “PRO PRO PRO”. Cuz is going pro because he is just doing things that a guy his size shouldn’t be able to do. Big guys generally do not go after freshman year.
I thought Orton was supposed to be a smart kid?!
I’m kind of perplexed by how this whole situation is going down. I feel for the kid and wish him the best, but maybe it’s best for all if he doesn’t return, since he clearly does not want to.
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Both you Ladies have good points...
BKG, you’re really right in that
it’s best for all if he doesn’t return, since he clearly does not want to.
If your wings don't sweep....
The possible lockout
is a major cause, IMO. Guess what it is? A “what if” !!! ;-)
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
I think you are right.
The lockout possibility has him running scared. The funny thing is, I didn’t realize money was such a big issue for Daniel and/or his family? Guess you never know, do you?
Maybe Gillispie should have paid his dad more...
To talk at that camp.
;-)
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Apr 3, 2010 10:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He doesn't
give a crap about UK and his drop out effect on APR, if he in fact does drop out – nothing is confirmed at this point. But, it wouldn’t surprise me after watching his attitude this year. He wears his emotions and he rarely looked like he was well attired.
APR
The 2010 number won’t be announced by NCAA until 2012 and even then, it’s averaged with APR from 2007-08-09.
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 3, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
So it shouldn't cost UK a scholarship, if he drops out?
That would help my thinking.
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
It's a four year
running average. Somewhat toothless since there is two levels of warnings before you lose a scholarship but it creates bad press. In Cal’s case there’s two positives. First, the bad press doesn’t bother him anymore and second, he’d be just as happy with just 10 scholarships.
How Was That Not A Foul?
Although I like the call.
"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek
Dreadful no-call there
But not the worst I’ve seen in the tournament. Not the worst that Butler got away with today, for that matter.
I Agree
The W of next game is NCAA champ, likely.
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 3, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey as far
as I am concerned the game last Saturday night………I think that the WVA/KY was the NC game :)
maybe so,
but losing in the NC championship game and losing in the sweet sixteen is still losing…. ; )
losing sucks.
losing sucks some serious a** and I’m really not that good at it. But, if Huggins and his boys can somehow find a way to put a serious hurt on the Devils, you know, a “no mercy” kind of thing? — well, that would help ease the pain of losing a bit. It won’t help you as I see that your son is a Duke fan (how did that happen, exactly??) but it will certainly help me…. : )
totally
agree! I think he became a fan when he was about four years old and his Daddy told him how much I hated Duke. So he started liking them. Now its a full blown passion just my love for UK. I try not to get too upset because my momma was a Tennessee girl and let me love my Cats :)
Determining When Izzo Called To
Didn’t matter. MSU couldn’t pull a UK vs other MSU. Brad Stevens is gonna be a rich man soon — a hot property.
"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek
Where's A Mod When You Need One?
"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek
WVU or Duke
Oh I so cannot stand Duke but I am going to have a 12 almost 13 year old boy in tears if they lose :)
Time The Youngster Learned The Truth
No Santa, no Easter Bunny, Blue Devils are evil.
"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek
little late but...
OMG what about the dirty stache on that Howard kid from Butler?
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 9:10 PM EDT reply actions
a girlfriend...
…that can help him out by saying something like, “hey, honey, that’s not all that flattering”, is what I meant.
yeah, I knew just what you meant too : )
My thoughts exactly. It was even worse from the profile—horrifying!!
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I heart WVU
Lose to Dook, and I hate WVU………
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
SOme
good friends of mine are husband and wife…..she is an avid WVU fan and he a Duke fan :). What I would do to be a fly on that wall tonight :)
sounds kinky
j/k
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
Why is it all the same
we get our butts handed to us in the elite eight and then the team that beats us gets killed/??!!!! UGGH!
because god hates me
and nothing’s fair, and the fates are conspiring against me….
COME ON WEST VIRGINIA!!
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, I know ;)
I’m exhibiting an exceptionally short memory, and I was actually very blessed by the basketball gods this year.
I’ve got a bad, bad feeling Duke may win this whole thing though. This makes it hard to see justice in the world : )
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
2 things I've learned this tournament
1) mid majors can play
2) bags fly free
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
I am literally laughing out loud
THANK YOU for taking my mind off West Virginia losing to the dreaded plague.
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you help the 'Neers ?
dUKe cannot win, not this year. Please !! ’-)
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
So I see WVU has hit a 2 point shot this half....
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
is it just me...
or have there been an exceptionally high number of shots to the “sensitive area,” as the announcers like to euphemistically say, during this postseason??
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
these Old Spice commercials
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Apr 3, 2010 10:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Oops
Meant to say that these Old Spice commercials make me want to gouge my eyes out.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Apr 3, 2010 10:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I almost think they're so stupidly bad
that they’re actually awesome.
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually like the guy on the boat/horse
But the one where the ab muscles are talking makes me want to throw stuff at the TV.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Apr 3, 2010 10:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
this is how revolting I think this Final Four is:
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions
Coach K is a prick
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
T him up
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
hey
did I ever tell you guys that our head bball coach at my kids school coached with coach K at Army? Good friends with him. So all of our high school guys get all these Duke tshirts and stuff coach K send them :(………..uggh
What was the T for?
To me, it looked like he was waiting until people got out of his way before coming off the rim.
wtf
Way to deprive the viewing public of the UK/Duke matchup everyone wanted, West Virginia—only to roll over for Duke and pave the way for another championship for them, for which they will have to go through Butler. BUTLER?!
SIGH.
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 10:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think I'm just saying again and again
how I know Duke will win so that maybe they WON’T win…trying to trick the fates, I guess : )
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
If you want conspiracy theories, just remember the uproar over Duke's bracket in comparison to Kansas's bracket.
by David Hooper on Apr 3, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Duke got the red carpet to the final four
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
Which would carry more weight...
Had Kansas not lost to Northern Iowa.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Apr 3, 2010 10:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's a conspriracy I tell ya'
j/k
But it sounded good. ;-)
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
West Virginia
This looks like a completely different team than we saw the other night. That makes me so mad. The Cats would beat them 20 points if they played this way last Saturday night. ugh
Frustrating isnt it?
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Apr 3, 2010 10:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it's so annoying
WHY COULDN’T YOU HAVE SUCKED LAST WEEK, EH MOUNTAINEERS?
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Singler is one fugly mofo....
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
I'm sorry, dude
I was so blinded by misery that Duke is running away with this game that I read your comment as “that’s an act.” My bad ; )
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I was blinded also
so don’t feel bad. I read the same thing as you. But it’s all good now, here. Not so much in Indy.
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
I was thinking...
gee, that’s kind of harsh, man! Glad I wasn’t the only one with the FAIL on basic reading comprehension.
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm glad you cleared me...
didn’t want to be seen as the insensitive one. haha It looked like his acl to me.
flop
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
agreed
I was watching that, thinking, “I have never in my life, seen a coach straddle a player, and stroke his face while they were basically nose to nose.” I mean, I know emotions are running high and all, but I thought they were going to start making out. At least Bobby Knight threw chairs when his emotions ran high, not molested his players. Weird.
Is Huggins going to kiss him?
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
WVU.....done
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
No couch burning tonight
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
WVU's last lead was 4-2.
And those leads really don’t count.
by David Hooper on Apr 3, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh.
There was no doubt who you were rooting for. FWIW, I really don’t care who wins this game.
by David Hooper on Apr 3, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Instead of changing the tourny to 96 teams...
they should just make the whole tourny best of three or double elimination. haha Then the Cats would still be there bc we would beat WV 2 out of 3 times
Why am I rooting for duke..???
Just watching the WV players doing the John Wall dance after they beat us has put them ahead of duke, but still behind Tenn & ’ville…
Steelers 6 rings, Wildcats 7 Banners..!! Winning never gets old...!!!!
My hatred of Duke...
….is greater than my hatred of all of my hated teams in all sports combined.
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
Gah.
A) that was a reply.
B) badly worded. I meant the phrase got sweet, not the game score.
by David Hooper on Apr 3, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
No points, but Duke held the ball for 1:11 with that series.
At that rate, they don’t need to score.
At this point I just hope Butler can give Duke a good game
hate to say it but they look awesome
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
Blasphemy Bro, just plain ol' blasphemy!!
Where’ s a cricket game when I need one????
If your wings don't sweep....
cricket
would be a vast improvement at this point
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
and a very good game, at that.
Go Butler!!
I just don’t want this to be the year that is remembered as “UK had that amazingly talented team, and then Duke went on to win the NC championship”. That’s bad, so very bad, and there aren’t enough drugs or drink in this world to make that palatable….
"there aren’t enough drugs or drink in this world to make that palatable…."
but that’s no reason not to TRY to find enough ; )
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
that or the boring hateful lame-ness of the teams involved
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Ooh...
My thought: if such a big stadium is not reasonable to fill, why not use a smaller one? I mean, out of the 65 teams in the tourney, how many pairings could do as well as the NCAA apparently believes can happen?
by David Hooper on Apr 3, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, travel then.
Butler wears blue, right? ;-)
by David Hooper on Apr 3, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
aren't these
things decided years in advance? I know that next year’s FF is at Reliant in Houston and in 2013 I believe the FF is at Cowboy Stadium, so they are obviously expecting a certain number of turnout, or are just getting a deal on the site??
it WOULD have been reasonable
to expect a full stadium if this had been a UK/Duke, Kansas/Syracuse kind of Final Four. This sad little assembly? Not so much.
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
But if that's what we wanted, why not skip the tournament and simply place them there?
/dodges anti-BCS bricks
;-)
by David Hooper on Apr 3, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
at this point,
I might say that that’s exactly what should have happened ; )
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
It was full for the first game
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Apr 4, 2010 9:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
touching moment between Huggins and Butler
probably the image of the tournament
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
all I can say,
is that it’s a good thing I bought the BIG bottle of wine at Costco. And I got a new wine aerator for my birthday a few days ago and I’m using it, let me tell you. Ugh, Ugh, and Ugh….Damn.
So Duke wiwll beat Butler Monday night
and a million years of darkness will descend on all the land
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
plagues of locusts...
water turns to blood…death of all the firstborns….unhealable boils…
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
and he will lead our people to the promised land???
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe...
people forget that wva played the game of a live time against us and we picked a bad time to go ice cold…
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Apr 3, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
oh gal
they are getting close and I CANNOT HANDLE THAT……..I m literally sick at my stomach. Kids dancing around me right now bragging…….Oh LORD help me.
well Mack is suffering from spasms and Howard has a mild concussion
that is not good at all
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
Start praying for the Butler Medical Staff... Gotta get them guys back on the floor!
If your wings don't sweep....
correct
91, 92, 01
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
by chirop1 on Apr 4, 2010 10:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Even if they win
this year (perish the thought), D—- still wouldn’t qualify as a dynasty. Only relavent the past 20-30 years while ferret face has been coaching.
think i am going to puke....
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Apr 3, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions
well, this has been fun, guys!
Who am I kidding, this has been a nightmare from which I fear I’ll never awaken. But anyhoo, guess I need to get off here, as I have idiotically committed myself to attending an early Easter service in the morning. It just gets better and better!!
When does next season start again? Can we just cancel the rest of this season on account of it being lame?
by blue kentucky girl on Apr 3, 2010 11:37 PM EDT reply actions
Nite Eagle
I gotta go too.
Happy Easter all, and may all your eggs be fresh and hope you use more than one basket. :-)
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
allright opening the 2nd bottle of crown royal
1 does not make the pain of Duke winning go away
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
On site
Well, that was a depressing ending to the night. I don’t know what it sounded like on tv, but as Duke pulled away, Lucas Oil stadium became a morgue.
Watching this final four is horrible as I keep thinking that the Cats could have beaten all of these teams if we hadn’t had our worst shooting night of the season last week. Don’t think that I can stand to stay and watch Duke win the title, so we will probably look to sell out tickets.
by wklawdog on Apr 3, 2010 11:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
OMG,
you went! I was wondering if you would.
If I may say something, let me say, you are already there, don’t sell. I mean, leave the NC game early if you have to, but don’t sell. You might very well miss an incredible game in which the Dookies fall?
But, then again, if you encounter fans like I encountered when I was in Houston for the South Regional, and considering you will be witnessing the NC game, no less, you may very well end up in prison. You are a lawyer though, right?? Yeah, that would help… ; )
yes,
we had a really good time, thanks for asking. : )
Seeing Duke win 2 games wasn’t all that fabulous (your son would be soo jealous, I got lots and lots of pictures ; )), but we did meet up with family (my sister-in-law currently lives in Houston and my mother and stepfather drove down from San Antonio to meet us) and we did do some site-seeing and random partying in addition to the tourney games so it was a very worthwhile trip. We have applied (apparently, and I didn’t know this, but if you want to get seats to the FF early, you have to “apply”) for tickets for next year’s FF in Houston. : )
Cool!
and yes he would be jealous! Although right now I would like to kick his little tail! :)……..that sounds like fun! I thought about applying for the final four this year……..parents live in Beaumont so I would have to not worry about hotel but the likelihood of getting tickets probably isn’t too good :)
Glad you had
a great time by the way :)…….I think if we moved anywhere, Houston would be where I would want to be!
Think all sign off
maybe I can dream about non-Duke things. I mean anything, just not…….hell, I can’t even type their name anymore.
funny to me
is that he tells his facebook before KEntucky announces it officially! Good Riddance Orton! Nice knowing you…….NOT!
it only takes one team to want you
he could very well get picked in the lottery based on upside
Slower Traffic Keep Right!
it only takes one team
that you think wants you….
i have been a BIG defender that it is not illogical for a NBA team to draft orton in the lottery (mem girz drafted thabeet 2nd last year after all) but it is not logical for him to go. afraid i am in tenken’s camp – bye bye orton…
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Apr 4, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
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