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Kentucky Basketball: C.J. Leslie Stays Home

After committing once to Sydney Lowe at the North Carolina State Wolfpack before entertaining suitors like the Kentucky Wildcats and Connecticut Huskies, C.J. Leslie decided yesterday to keep that earlier commitment and stay close to his home in Raleigh, NC and play his college basketball in-state.

This is a tough loss for Kentucky, make no mistake, but not an entirely unexpected one.  Many people believed that Leslie was a lock for Kentucky, in no small part because he was a teammate of John Wall at Word of God Academy in Raleigh, but in the end, his connections to family and home meant more.  Congratulations to Leslie and his family, and all the best in his college endeavors.

So where does that leave the Wildcats?  Well, we explored the possibilities just earlier this week, and I have always thought that it was not particularly likely that both Jones and Leslie would come to Kentucky, and now we know that intuition was correct (although you can never know for sure -- Eric Blesoe famously came despite the fact that Kentucky was expected to land John Wall last year).  In the final analysis, though, UK is still currently without a power forward for 2010-11.

Which brings us to Terrence Jones.  Jones is a perfect fit for UK (Leslie was as well) and is deciding between the Kentucky Wildcats, the Oregon Ducks, the Kansas Jayhawks, the UCLA Bruins, the Washington Huskies, and the Oklahoma Sooners.  Jones' friend and high-school teammate, Terrence Ross, has reportedly committed to the Huskies, and there has been some speculation that Jones would like to play alongside Ross.  Oregon, Jones' home-state school, finally filled their vacant head coaching position earlier this week with Dana Altman, former head coach of the Creighton Bluejays.  Altman was a fairly hot property a few years back and accepted the Arkansas Razorbacks head coaching position only to renege on that job the very next day, paving the way for John Pelphrey.

More after the jump.

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It is somewhat doubtful (but not unprecedented -- see Patterson, Patrick and Gillispie, Billy) that Altman could make up for the recent lack of effort in recruiting by Oregon due to the firing of Ernie Kent, but Leslie is just the most recent example of how powerful the in-state draw can sometimes be.  Nearby Washington also has a powerful attraction to Jones due to Ross' reported matriculation there and its proximity to his home in Portland, Oregon.

So the question now becomes this:  Can the championship panache of Kentucky and potential excitement of playing for John Calipari in the Dribble Drive Motion offense overcome the lure of friends and family on the West coast?  We have recently seen that Leslie preferred the comforts of home, and everyone remembers that proximity to West Virginia was a powerful, and arguably the deciding, factor that brought Patrick Patterson to Kentucky over Billy Donovan and the Florida Gators.

At this point in time, nobody has a reliable read on Jones' intentions, so for me to prognosticate would be futile.  Many recruiting insiders think that UK is in good shape with Jones, but many thought that about Leslie and a couple notably thought that Leslie was a lock for UK -- we saw how that worked out.

Bottom line -- we don't know what will happen with Jones, but we are likely to find out Friday when he is scheduled to announce his intentions, so stay tuned for that.

Another player that Kentucky is actively recruiting is Marcus Thornton, a 6'8"/215# combo forward Marcus Thornton out of Atlanta, Georgia.  Thornton was a former Clemson Tigers commitment who asked out of his LOI due to the recent coaching change at Clemson.   Thornton is not expected to decide for a while, and will begin taking recruiting visits in the next seven to ten days.

It's important to note, though, that Thornton is by no means a replacement for Terrence Jones.  Jones is a highly skilled, ready-for-prime-time player that is likely to be in the NBA sooner rather than later.  Thornton is a four-year college player with good skills and athleticism who could make it to the Association one day, but that day is still far off.  Think of comparing Patrick Patterson to Chuck Hayes in high school and you'll have some idea of the relative difference in skill and development between Jones and Thornton.

Some think of Thornton as a "back up plan" to Jones, but that isn't so.  Calipari seems to be recruiting Thornton to Kentucky regardless of who else comes, in order to add another live body with a strong upside to the front line.  Thornton is developing well and will continue to get better, but his lack of power forward size argues for a switch over to the wing, and his wing skills are becoming formidable, but still have a ways to go yet.

So that's where 2010 recruiting stands at this moment.  C.J. Leslie is off the board, and a member of the Wolfpack.  Kentucky is known to be seriously recruiting only two more players, and unless Calipari gets them both, figures to be a bit short-handed barring a plan "B" that nobody really knows about right now.  Note that I think it very likely a plan B exists, but as of this moment, I have no idea what it is.

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Tru, before coming to UK...

Calipari wasn’t using a big body down low, and was very successful with a smaller, more active/quick lineup. I think he would rather play 5 who can take their man off the dribble, so why are the UK faithful so worked up about getting a big guy for the post?

by UK1972 on Apr 29, 2010 8:08 AM EDT reply actions  

We have a guy for the post -- Kanter.

But you still need to rebound the ball. And Kanter cannot be in the game 100% of the time.

You need at least 3 big bodies for the DDM. Without them, it’s much tougher. Just think about Duke before the emergence of Zoubek.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Apr 29, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Patterson vs Hayes

If that is a valid comparison to Jones vs Thornton – I would love to have Thornton in UK blue if he is anything like #44 was. Granted – I know you are making the comparison as when they were coming out of high school, but I am just sayin… :-)

by danno928 on Apr 29, 2010 8:26 AM EDT reply actions  

My comment was ment to refer to skill level, not commitment and determination.

Chuck Hayes was one of my favorite Wildcats, but he was not considered to be a particularly skilled player when he got here — at least, not like Patterson was.

His determination got him where he is now, not his athletic prowess or skill at basketball. He is a determined, intelligent player who does the dirty work and emphasizes fundamentals to outsmart and out-tough other, more skilled players.

I have no idea if Thornton has even 1/10th of the commitment and intelligence of Hayes, but he is said to be a very hard worker, so that’s something. I trust Calipari’s evaluation of recruits, and if he thinks Thornton is Wildcat material, I’m completely on board with that.

A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan

by Glenn Logan on Apr 29, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I Always Wondered Why People Thought That About Chuck Hayes

Hayes was Parade A-A, Calif Div I Mr Basketball (POY), and leading rebounder at ABCD Camp in the summer between his Jr and Sr year of HS.

He was short (6-6 or 6-7) for PF. He was not a great shooter.

But he had excellent basketball skills. Kansas wanted him, so did UCLA.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 29, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The right mix

I think we’re going to need a little patience until Cal can come up with the right mix of five star recruits and three or four year projects. We’re going to need both in the long run.

by chicagoblues on Apr 29, 2010 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Absolutely,

in the meanwhile enjoy some downright exciting basketball.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on Apr 29, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not worried

When I heard the news last night my first reaction was peace. Obviously I would have loved for Leslie to commit to UK but our Coach is human.

Even if Coach Cal has to pull out a secret Plan B, I will be content. We just ended a season that was FAR more successful than I ever imagined at this point last year.

by Strangeite on Apr 29, 2010 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

35 W Is A Rare Season At UK

Only happened 3 other imes – Rupp in late 1940’s (1948 or 49), Pitino in 1997, Tubby in 1998.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 29, 2010 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Re Strangeite

I’m with you What will Be will BE———Whatever Coach pulls out of his hat will be far and above what we saw in the previous years to him coming to UK… It will be fun again this year I am sure. Will we win as much???? (don’t know and doubt it) But KENTUCKY BBALL is back no mistake. And for this I am VERY HAPPY!!!! Win-Lose-Draw I Bleed BLUE

by kentuckystrong on Apr 29, 2010 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Let's Look Back

UK landed Gerald Fitch and Erik Daniels in spring 2000 after missing on more hyped recruits.

Most of us would consider Fitch and Daniels having pretty decent UK careers.

Similarly UK landed Kelenna Azubuike in spring 2002 after booting Rashaad Carruth off the team.

Azubuiike is an NBA starter. Carruth isn’t.

Finally UK landed Randolph Morris, Joe Crawford, and Rajon Rondo in spring 2004. One of only a few times that UK landed 3 McDonalds A-A in the same year (1978, 1979, 1984 are the others).

Morris and Rondo are in the NBA. Crawford was drafted by NBA and has played briefly there.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 29, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

We are gonna be fine.....I get the feeling we still get 2 more signees

and 1 returning player if not 2 ( counting Dodson)…..maybe he and Cal patch things up…..who knows?

I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!

by ALLBLUCAT on Apr 29, 2010 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, No, Not Again

Yep, get used to it, as long as 2009-10 is a part of the discussion of UK BB the word can’t be avoided — anomaly. You can add the presence of a dominating 5 to the aberrant aspects of the first season for the DDMO in Lexington. Not one (Cousins) but two (Orton) NBA quality centers is quite unusual, in fact unprecedented for a Calipari DDMO. Joey Dorsey would be the closest approximation but he was in reality a 4 in 5 disguise. Contrarily Kanter will be a 5 only pseudonymously. So Calipari can get back to coaching a genuine DDMO and UK fans will have another season of adjustment.

"There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." --James Madison

by Wild Weasel on Apr 29, 2010 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I Think 25-30 W Are Possible

No reasonable UK fan should be unhappy with that.

Rupp averaged 21 W. Hall averaged 23 W. Sutton averaged 22 W.

Pitino averaged 27 W. Tubby averaged 26 W. Gillispie averaged 20 W.

Calipari will average more than any of them.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 29, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vaught and Jones

Larry Vaught says this about Terrence Jones on his blog….

several souces at UK have indicated that he will sign with the Wildcats – and that word may have prompted Leslie to pick N.C. State.

Of course, in a slow news time any nugget of information is going to be relevant until we hear otherwise. Who knows how accurate this is. I certainly hope he is right. I guess we will know for sure tomorrow around 6:30.

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Apr 29, 2010 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Just heard the new Oregon Duck basketball coach Dana Altman on a radio interview...

Coach Altman said he had two recruits coming this weekend that would really make a big
difference for his new team. Word is that one of the recruits is Terrence Jones. If TJ delays
his decision then it is true.

by blue oregon on Apr 29, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I certainly hope he is right-

No disrespect to C.J. Leslie at all, but Terrence Jones is an exceptional player…

"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"

by iam4ukintn on Apr 29, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Good News, Bad News, Good News

Rivals rankings for 2010 class are out and: Good news — Enes Kanter moves up to #3 (behind Selby and Barnes); bad news — Brandon Knight drops to #6; good news — Doron Lamb #13, Stacey Poole #33.

"There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." --James Madison

by Wild Weasel on Apr 29, 2010 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Rankings

of players make for some interesting debate and discussion but I’m just focused on team rank around early April next year and the season leading up to it. At the high talent level the differences will be more evident once they get into a college system, make the adjustments and start playing against whole teams that can play well.

by hoboat33 on Apr 29, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent Points

UK signed Top 5 players Bowie, Hord, and Anderson in late 1970’s. Top 10 players Tillman and Minniefield. Top 25 players Verderber, Hurt, Bearup, and Master (latter 2 in 1980).

Yet UK had limited sucess in 1980-81-82-83-84.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 29, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

1984 Championship Game

I witnessed it and don’t consider it limited success unless one considers FG%.

"There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." --James Madison

by Wild Weasel on Apr 29, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Notice I Said LIMITED SUCCESS Over 5 Seasons (Not Just 1)

Failure to get beyond Sweet 16 at Rupp in 1980.

1st round L in 1982 and 1983. Disappointing L to Louisville in 1983.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 29, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lamb Is #21 Not #13

Jones is #13 but is not (yet) a Cat.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 29, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

KU Fans And Board Confident On Jones

"There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." --James Madison

by Wild Weasel on Apr 29, 2010 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Larry Brown

"There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." --James Madison

by Wild Weasel on Apr 29, 2010 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Oops, Larry Brown's Big, New Idea

Well it’s neither big or new. From Cal’s twitter:

Well, it was to wear one piece uniforms made of tinfoil!…No, really it’s to have our own Junior Varsity team.


It’s not a done deal but that was what Coach said. I talked to Roy Williams who has one & I’ve asked UK’s administration 2 look into it.


It’s a great way 2 get more KY kids in the program. We r the commonwealth’s team! The secret code was "having a varsity team plus aJV team!"


Keep in mind, my first coaching job was the JV coach at Kansas and that was also Roy Williams’ first coaching job at North Carolina.

"There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." --James Madison

by Wild Weasel on Apr 29, 2010 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

JV Team

We had a JV team in 96 didn’t we?

by danno928 on Apr 30, 2010 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Knight/Kanter ≠ Wall/Cousins

Nevertheless they could be special Cats. BTW, anyone note that Tyreke Evans is NBA ROY? Two in a row for Calipari. Let’s make it 3, or 4, or more.

"There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." --James Madison

by Wild Weasel on Apr 29, 2010 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Thornton

Besides being Mr Basketball in GA, he was also named Parade HS A-A (4th team).

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 29, 2010 10:16 PM EDT reply actions  

It may all be moot.

There has been some discussion up here in Chicago, that the Bulls are courting Cal. The supposed strategy is to bring in LeBron to team with Derrick Rose, with the coordination of WWW. Don’t shoot me….I am only the messenger.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Apr 29, 2010 10:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

And you were jumping with excitement,

almost giddy, wanting to inform us good folks here. ’-)

Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

by a2d2 on Apr 29, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, I can hardly stand it.

However, the entire scenario makes way too much sense to be true.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Apr 30, 2010 12:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You didn't know who the 'Jewish Jordan' was.

What do you know about Chicago?

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Apr 30, 2010 12:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The Kid Who Committed To Maryland

But wound up at Towson State.

He WAS called the JJ.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 30, 2010 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess you couldn't pull up & read the two links I referenced.

It’s really sad when an adult can’t admit they’re wrong. Even when the proof is staring them in the face.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Apr 30, 2010 8:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I Gave You The Facts

The only JJ was the kid from Maryland.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 30, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

You gave me squat.

I gave you two links: the NYT’s and the Chicago Tribune, that referred to Scheyer as the JJ from Chicago. Here’s another truth for you….just because you write something does not make it a fact.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Apr 30, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

That truth

applies to everybody.

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on May 1, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bledsoe has no agent

What happens if he decides to come back?

I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.

by ParisGuy on Apr 29, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

If he comes back, he starts next to Knight

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 29, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

he gets demoted to the new JV team

what do expect??

Slower Traffic Keep Right!

by SevenRings on Apr 29, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

He doen't care about basketball.

He just wants to attend class and get that degree. In fact, I’ll hold a seat next to me at Rupp in two Saturdays and he can watch my niece graduate, too.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Apr 30, 2010 12:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

"Sydney" Lowe

I’m simply wondering if the misspelling of NC State head coach Sidney Lowe’s first name had to do with:

1. An honest mistake / typographical error (weak journalism)

or

2. A jealous slight at Coach Lowe after CJL signed with NCSU

Oh I’m sorry, did John Calipari ever lead a team to an NCAA championship on the court like Sidney Lowe? Wait, has Cal even coached a team to an NCAA title? No, thats right, he hasn’t.

I feel sorry for Kentucky and their fans, students and alumni. You guys are a great program but unfortunately, not too far down the road, you will face the same NCAA violation wrath that Massachusetts and Memphis have felt, yet Calipari won’t face any of the ramifications.

Thanks a lot NCAA.

by James Sidbury on Apr 30, 2010 1:09 AM EDT reply actions  

NC State

Look up 1973 (ineligible for NCAA) under Norm Sloan and 1980’s under late Jim Valvano B$ you throw around NCAA accusations.

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 30, 2010 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know, right?

Oh the irony.

Why would a misspelling of his name be a “jealous slight?” Maybe when you’re “wondering” next time, you should just stop while you’re ahead, and go ahead with the most logical, obvious and likely answer, since CLEARLY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD to everyone who is not a tinfoil hat-wearing, chip-on-the-shoulder conspiracy theorist, this was so obviously an inconsequential accidental swapping of one spelling of a name for another.

Also, who are you apologizing to when you say “Oh I’m sorry…” ??

by blue kentucky girl on Apr 30, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

You've earned it

Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.

by btcoop71 on Apr 30, 2010 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Late Jones Info

Interpret it as you wish.

Momma posted on TJ’s Facebook wall:

Linda Mashia-Jones

Hey Son, Go to the school you will be able to play your game and showcase your talent to get to the next level. Remember this is a business decision. I will support you and be there for you no matter where you are. I love you and trust that you will go where you want to be. Let’s do this!!! Love ya Mom
 
Terrence Jones

last night to all my true fans that really care about me i just gotta say thanks 4 the love … i can only pick one school so more ppl will be disappointed then happy i just hope u will still i do well as a player and not care about just wat school i attend welp i still havent chosen yet but i will know by morning much love to KU,UK,UW,UCLA,OUand UofO 7 minutes ago
 
One could read between lines. “Business decision” means UK. Most PT available = best forum to showcase his skill set. “I’m predicting him to UK”, was a comment from one of the slant posters.
 
Makes sense.

"There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." --James Madison

by Wild Weasel on Apr 30, 2010 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Let's hope you're right!

I don’t use any social networking (i.e. Facebook, Twitter, etc.) because I think the concept is ignorant. But glad someone has access to this kid’s profile! (Yes, I know..this forum is form of social networking, but it’s not the same..I promise)

Landing Jones at UK would immensely help our team for the upcoming season. Leslie to NC St. was certainly a let-down; it’s not the first, and it surely won’t be the last.

Rumors had it that Ross would follow Jones, but I understand Ross is going to Washington. Let’s hope Jones is strong enough to leave his comfort bubble and travel across the country to Lexington!!

by pinata89 on Apr 30, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't it just a little creepy for grown adults to intrude on 17 yr old's Facebook pages?

I mean…just a little?

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Apr 30, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is so easy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/30/sports/ncaabasketball/30duke.html?scp=1&sq=jewish%20jordan,%20jon%20scheyer&st=cse

Jon Scheyer is his name. Just like I said.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Apr 30, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed (If You Can READ)

… Tamir Goodman, the Orthodox basketball star who was dubbed "Jewish Jordan" by Sports Illustrated as a high schooler, has called it a career at the age of 27 …

by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 30, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's revisit history, shall we?

I brought up the point about Jon Scheyer being referred to as the JJ. You wrote that you had "…never heard anyone refer to him as that…’ Tamir Goodman is a red herring. It means nothing to my primary comment and your ‘ignorant’ (and I mean that in the strictness of terms limited to this topic) uninvited comment to chime in. It’s okay to write you were wrong. As a manner of politeness I won’t even ask you to admit I was right.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Apr 30, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can be a fan and follow UK. too.

See we UofL graduates can do two things at once. There’s a great big purple world out there where everything doesn’t have to be blue or red. Try it sometime.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Apr 30, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hardy...har...har

I never heard that one. Hilarious. Quite clever and original.

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Apr 30, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

In Order

Not surprising. Yes. No and no.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 1, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two things at once, like what?

Bend over and pass gas?

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on May 1, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not That It Matters

But the Facebook info was posted on a KU board, i.e. the reference to slant posters.

"There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." --James Madison

by Wild Weasel on Apr 30, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

My Wishes Have Been Granted

Hoze vs Forty — reminiscent of Henry Kissinger commenting on Iran-Iraq war: Is there a way both can lose?

"There are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." --James Madison

by Wild Weasel on Apr 30, 2010 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually that's kind of funny.

At least original. And look…..I won’t call names. Does that mean I win?

'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'

by HozeKing on Apr 30, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope

The kid from Maryland WAS dubbed The JJ.

The kid from Glenbrook North was NOT.

by FortyYearCatFan on May 1, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe

there were two JJ’s?

I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.

by kywineman on May 1, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

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