Kentucky Basketball: The Calipari Conspiracy
This could be the title of a movie.
I am just amazed at all the conspiracy theories that have surrounded John Calipari since he decided to take the Kentucky job. I know that college basketball fans, particularly in the immediate aftermath of a season where there is little to talk about except recruiting, have a lot of time on their hands and very little information about how the nuts and bolts of the recruiting process works.
Having watched the Big Blue Nation try to pry, divine, and otherwise glean insight from the stubble of information that is publicly available about Marquis Teague's recruitment, I'm not surprised to see all sorts of theories pop up -- Louisville's newly-announced game against Butler was arranged to entice Teague and Pitino's new contract extension through the 2016-17 season was designed to reassure him, etc.
As far as I can tell, Teague never seriously considered Butler, even though he lives very near the school. The theory is that the Butler/Louisville game was arranged so that he would be able to play in front of his family and friends for his "one and done" year, and I suppose that's not inherently implausible, but it seems like a lousy reason to pick a school.
As for Pitino's extension, well, that makes sense for all kinds of reasons. Pitino has been under fire for some personal indiscretions, and Louisville needed to decide whether or not he was going to be their coach of the immediate future or not. Anytime a college coach's contract duration gets under four years, it can become a recruiting issue that rivals will often use against you. But if Teague is as good as everyone thinks, why would he even worry about Pitino being there past 2013, when Teague would presumably be gone after the 2012-13 season? I seriously doubt that John Wall would have sweated Coach Cal's contract if it had been only 3 years when he came, but DeMarcus Cousins, Eric Bledsoe, and Daniel Orton may have.
At least these theories have a ring of plausibility to them, though. They actually make sense on some level, even if those reasons were not the drivers for the these two things. Call it serendipity, or whatever.
But there are some that make no sense, and just how little sense is becoming more and more clear.
Yesterday, Gary Parrish had this article, which falls under the rubric of, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." In it, he explains that William Wesley, the infamous "World Wide Wes," is a very powerful man in basketball circles -- too powerful to be an off-the-payroll recruiter for John Calipari.
What Wesley actually does is poorly understood (and frankly, none of our business unless he is violating the law or some NCAA rule, which has been examined at least once by the NCAA), but he clearly does have some influence over some decisions that players make in the sense that a friend or a business adviser might. He does not obviously have the ability to "steer" players to a school, a team, or an agent, but he may well have the ability to make a case for them to do so that is persuasive to some. He is connected with high-profile NBA types like LeBron James (who's success every young college player wants to emulate), and Michael Jordan among others. He also is connected to rap music figures that many players seem to love, as well as hip-hop and other pop artists like Beyoncé Knowles.
Seth Davis has reported recently that Wesley is now coming out of the shadows to represent coaches (mostly NBA but also some college) on behalf of Creative Arts Agency. This will likely significantly expand his circle of friends in one area, but somewhat contract it in the area of actual players, since there will be conflicts of interest involved and less time on his hands. No matter what, though, it will expose Wesley to more scrutiny, which he is apparently willing to accept.
But most importantly, William Wesley is connected to John Calipari -- they are apparently good friends. This controversial connection surfaced big time last year when Josh Selby, a highly-ranked 2010 guard who had committed to Bruce Pearl and Tennessee in his junior year in high school, decided to reopen his recruitment.
You remember this, right? You remember how some in the media pointed to a conversation between William Wesley and Josh Selby's mother around the time of the LeBron James Skills Academy, shortly after which Selby reopened his recruitment? You remember the charges that Wesley is connected to Nike (he is) and Tennessee wears Adidas, and voila! It was an obvious case of Wesley tampering with recruiting on John Calipari's behalf, and shoe money was behind it.
Never mind that Selby denied knowing Wesley, and that his mother denied any of the rumors created by this confluence of events. But that didn't matter. This conspiracy theory was too good not to be true. The Tennessee assistants ginned it up and Bruce Pearl allowed it to fester into a big, pustulating boil. This was nasty. This was messed up.
And Josh Selby committed to ... Kansas.
To the conspiracy theorists, this is vindication of their theory -- the "U" and the "K" are still there, Calipari tossed Self a bone so he could sign Michael Gilchrist and Brandon Knight, two players that were obviously headed elsewhere without the nefarious Wesley pushing his magic button.
But then, just when you think you have it all figured out about Wesley, there is this:
Back to Main Street: We're standing with a young player who wants the night to keep going. The young player pushes to find another bar even though the odds are against it. Uncle Wes makes a face. He's squashing this right now.
"Nothing good can happen at this point," Wes explains simply. "You can't chase the night. When the night is over, the night is over. That's just the way it is. You just gotta wake up tomorrow and hope for a better day."
Uncle Wes had spoken. I am not exaggerating by saying it's a strangely profound moment. Within 15 seconds, our group splinters in three directions to look for cabs. I find one with my friend Connor. We climb in. We look at each other.
"I will never be able to properly explain that story to anyone," Connor said.
Agreed. You can't chase the night. It was like hearing a human fortune cookie. I went back to my hotel, took my contacts out, crawled into bed and hoped for a better day. These are the things that happen at NBA All-Star Weekend. [Emphasis mine]
I find that unbelievably profound, a side of Wesley that few outside his "nephews" have ever seen. If this is the sort of advice he gives to young AAU players, I have to tell you they could use a lot more of it, and it's likely a sight better than what they are getting from their AAU coaches.
Of course, the conspiracy theorists are all over the Marquis Teague situation, and boy, if Teague commits to Kentucky (which I don't think he will -- see John Clay's column today for why), the long knives will be out for Calipari. "Too much success in recruiting," they will say. "Something shady's going on."
All I can say is this -- Calipari has marketed his NBA connections to perfection. Other coaches have done this too (see Pitino, Rick), but not as successfully as Calipari. Most of the college coaches who were formerly coaches in the NBA have basically eschewed their NBA connections and have tried to trade mostly on the fact that they have experience at both levels of the game. Not Calipari. He has nurtured and developed ever more valuable NBA connections and allowed the fact that he has those connections to be widely known, and to work their magic on these young men.
Calipari does not need to have LeBron or William Wesley "advise" his recruiting targets to come to Kentucky -- they already know that Calipari has those connections. They already know Calipari has a track record of getting players ready for the NBA. They already know that Calipari plays an NBA-ready style, and that he is friends with lots of NBA superstars including LeBron James. They know that Calipari has coached in the NBA and, unlike other coaches, continues to develop relationships with the movers and shakers in that league. Calipari has boldly gone where his peers were irrationally afraid to go, and he is reaping the rewards of his efforts -- which, by the way, appear to be perfectly above board.
Unless, of course, you are a rival fan, or a rival program. Then, you need conspiracy theories to get you past your disappointment, either at your school's failure or Kentucky's success. He just can't be that good, right?
Wrong.
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What the haters do not realize
After the last set of major violations in the late 80s, do people really think that Kentucky is going to let someone come in and knowingly violate NCAA rules? It is just blind hate for UK that lead people down the “Calipari is a cheater and will get caught at UK” road.
UK’s compliance office today is as good as there is in the NCAA, starting when Sandy Bell took over after the football fiasco with Claude Bassett. UK self reported players getting comped a pizza at Joe Balogna’s for Christ’s Sake, yet UK is going to sit back and let players get paid? Bulls**t.
What is boils down to is that the haters can’t stand that the greatest program in the NCAA now has the greatest recruiter in the NCAA. You can point to UMASS and Memphis (BS by the NCAA) all you want. But if you (meaning the haters) want to start throwing around all these consipracy theories, come hard with the proof or STFU.
They see me rollin
They hatin
Patrolling they tryin to catch me ridin dirty
Tryin to catch me ridin dirty
Tryin to catch me ridin dirty
Tryin to catch me ridin dirty
Tryin to catch me ridin dirty
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
by btcoop71 on Apr 21, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Memphis AD department....
is keystone cops compared to UK. I am convinced Rose problems (both act and brother on the plane) would not have happened at UK.
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Apr 21, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
It's all on the Athletic Department?
Only the Athletic Department? Solely the Athletic Department? Seriously?
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Enforcement IS solely the athletic dept's responsibility. Ethical behavior is EVERYONE's
responsibility……n’cest pas?
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Oh, thanks.
I must have missed the ‘enforcement’ word in the above comment. However, if what you say is true, that would be an argument and shelter for every coach at every school. There wouldn’t be any coach held accountable for breaking NCAA regulations. Sorry….that doesn’t fly. Nice try, though.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
now you are flipping to a different side of the coin......
UK’s compliance dept is in most people’s opinion much more diligent about keeping things from happening that shouldnt…..whether this is through enforcement, training, or whatever I have no idea……a coach breaking regulations is a totally different matter…..assuming you mean that they are doing it knowingly and willingly…..
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
stories of Memphis' somewhat "loose" compliance dept have been around for years....
now that also may have been as a result of Calipari being there, I do not know….but combining the two with no proof is a bit malicious dont you think?
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
see below....
interestingly as much as the memphis fans like to point as cal as the only coach to have two final fours vacated, if i am not mistaken, memphis is the only PROGRAM to have two final fours vacated – 25 years apart…
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by memphis wildcat on Apr 21, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree.
UK’s compliance department is one to be modeled. From what I know they do an outstanding job. I will certainly and wholeheartedly acknowledge that. But the coaches can’t hide behind Sandy’s skirt and say ‘…wait, I thought you were monitoring that…it’s not my job…’
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
I don't think anyone implied that
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
And I dont think that would be allowed to happen, but who knows.....
I honestly believe that in some cases , i.e. Memphis….that compliance works as a part of a team…..and in some cases i.e. UK, they work as an independent unit who has poewr and control over the athletics dept as a whole….
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
No it's not malicious.
It’s pragmatic and realistic. See my above note. The coaching staff and compliance staff can’t be looked at as two seperate entities. Expecting them to overlap, work in concert, and to share accountability should be the norm. To suggest otherwise is giving one or the other cover.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
I think that if I am Lee Todd or Mitch Barnhart I look at that differently
I think I walk into Sandy Bell’s office and look her straight in the eye and say hey, We just got the guy that everyone in the world is convinced is dirty, even though they have no proof…….your job is to keep him from stepping over the line he gets right up against every day……one of the most humbling things for a person who is basically being given Carte Blanche is to have a pencil pusher busting their proverbial bubble every now and then……..keeps the system working the beat way it can
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Okay...if I am Sandy Bell.
I walk into Calipari’s office and look him straight in the eye and say, ‘…hey, we are both in this together. I expect both of us to know and abide by the rules. If any is broken we both are held accountable. Certainly I am here to help you, help us, make sure we stay on the straight and narrow (now go divorce yourself from Wes and don’t talk about him)…wait that would be my view)..’
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
and I would say you are probably about 85% right in that discussion
Sandy should go do that very thing, with one caveat…..
The statement goes, “Now I dont know exactly what the deal is with you and this Wesley guy, but let me make it clear, if you so much as make one step in his direction that isnt 100% above board and able to be clarified to the nth degree, I am going to come down on you like a ton of bricks….”
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
"if you can live with that, and I can live with that, then welcome to UK Coach"
“Let’s go win a boatload!”…..forgot to finish what Sandy would tell him….lol
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Fair enough Hoze..
I see your point and it is not all on the compliance department. Cal clearly could have asked for more support and I have always said Cal pushes it right up to the line. but the head coach does not have to make sure everyone on the plane is correctly reimbursing for flights – and the biggest part of the ncaa investigation was a nightmare in the woman’s golf department. not brushing off the rose ACT part, but there were far more structural (or “institutional”) deficiencies than what everyone in the bball world was focused.
My only point is that UK’s compliance department and Cal are a better mix. Memphis – despite having a final four vacated 25 years BEFORE the most recent one, never took compliance seriously, imo. That was more a recipe for disaster than the UK/Cal mix..
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Apr 21, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
By the way, great article Tru
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
In watching Cal up close, I think you hit it on the head....
Calipari has boldly gone where his peers were irrationally afraid to go, and he is reaping the rewards of his efforts — which, by the way, appear to be perfectly above board.
Some coaches will follow, some will not. Some will be successful following and some will not be successful. Some will be successful without following, some will not. Different strokes for different folks.
What a boring world it would be if we all did things alike….
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Apr 21, 2010 10:50 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Another great article
I think we all look at our competitors in business and think “Well, I’m doing it the right way… that guy must be cheating.” Its the same in his business as well.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Didnt we chalk all of this up to "embracing the hate" earlier??
although I think it should be renamed to “embracing the seething, violent, postulating hatred” now…..lol
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
'...a lousy reason to pick a school.'
You can’t be serious. Do you remember that Butler won their conference title? Do you recall that they were in the NCAA tournament championship game? Do you know that they will likely be rated in the Top Five going into next season?
The answer must be NO. If not, I smell a little jealousy.
Where has Teague ‘quoted that he ’sweated’ out Pitino’s contract.? Seems to me that you are expressing the same conspiracy theories that you complain about. But, oh, I see….your theories have a ‘ring of plausability’!! How convenient.
I do agree with your primary point though. There remains a lot of craziness around Cal’s recruiting and much un-supported. But it seems to me that Cal has brought much of this scrutiny upon himself by so publicly embracing Wes. Just sayin’.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
The word "sweated" was used to refer to John Wall, not Teague.....jealousy over Butler opening the
“Bucket of Wings”?? Not sure where you are getting that one either…..I am assuming the Tru meant UL’s choice to open their new facility to add to Marquis thoughts to ponder…..but maybe you are taking it another way
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
i thought lousy reason to pick a school...
referred to teague picking a school because they played one game against butler. if teague picks UL for that one, singular reason, then it is not only lousy, but insane. as a result, i believe scheduling bulter had nothing to do with trying to recruit Teague – or at least, nothing major :)
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by memphis wildcat on Apr 21, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
It's clear to me.
‘The theory is that the Butler/Louisville game was arranged so that he would be able to play in front of his family and friends for his “one and done” year, and I suppose that’s not inherently implausible, but it seems like a lousy reason to pick a school.’
I take it as Tru thinking that UofL scheduled the Butler game just to lock up one recruit…Teague. Now if UofL scheduled IUPUI, a better case could have been made. Well, whatever, that’s a drawback to conspiracy theories….its all so confusing!! Which of course is ironic because the article speaks to the problem of conspiracy but prefaces it with conspiracies of his own.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Hoze
You stated in an earlier thread that “You were a giver” Just what did you give us today?
Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !
A healthy dose of perspective.
You can thank me later. Or now, if you desire.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
The only thing
you ever bring is dissent!
Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !
Oh...I have plenty of love.
Been married 28 years. You just can’t open your heart to accept it.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
How does your marital
status help anything? You come here every day to take exception ti whatever the topic is!
Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !
+1
How does your Marriage Badge factor into this?
You are a contrarian, and quite frankly, your presence since Tru apparently let you out of Arkham on 4/1 is making this site dis-tasteful.
No matter where you're at, there you are
...and you take exception to everything I write.
Why do I feel like I am back in grade school again?
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Because That's Your Maturity Level
"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek
Because, here you are the little kid that others wish to pick on.
Not saying it is fair or deserved, just seeing it for what it is.
Buzzz.
Wrong answer. It’s because the give and take was so juvenile.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Apr 21, 2010 8:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You call the discussion "juvenile"
yet you took part in it. I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt. Sorry, won’t do that again.
OF course I did.
Obviously. But yet you felt the need to jump on the jungle gym, too.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Apr 22, 2010 8:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I just cant figure out whay Teague would want to go to UL since UK is now supposed to be
“One And Done U”….whay would he waste his time somewhere else than go where all of the attention is going to be??? No matter who they play…. ;-)
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
He can't get playing time over Hood.
I’ve read over the past year or so on this site that Jon is awesome and will get much of the playing time. :)
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
and if that is indeed the case, then what are we all worried about???
I too think playing time would be an issue, but hey, they worked it out last year…..and at the end, the cream rose to the top for the team com tourney time
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
I'm not worried.
Not yet, at least. Check with me Thursday night, though.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Why would you
slur Jon Hood? You don’t even know him.
Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !
You slur words and you slander people.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Another Morsel Of Nonsense
Teague is a 1, Hood is a 3.
"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek
You wouldn't recognize
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Apr 21, 2010 5:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
...sarcasm as friendly 'comeback' if..
It reached up and gave you a wet kiss. C’mon, catch up.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Apr 21, 2010 5:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i still think you read it wrong....
i believe tru was saying the scheduling of one game against a specific team was a lousy reason for TEAGUE to pick LOUISVILLE. He was not saying that the scheduling of one game against a specific team by louisville in order to get a one and done recruit was a lousy reason to pick butler…
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by memphis wildcat on Apr 21, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
nevermind...
i see tru cleared it up below.
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Apr 21, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Hoze, really --
Tru was busting the Bulter schedule conspiracy. He wasn’t supporting a the conspiracy. You have misread the meaning of the sentence and are now arguing against yourself. Enjoy your conversation.
Well it is a mutually enlightening discussion. I have found someone to keep up with myself. :)
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Intentional Misreading
Is a statement of character. Unintentional misreading is a metric of intellect.
"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek
Jaberwocky
Is a sign of self importance and a lack of humor. Loosen up; it’s good for the soul.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Apr 21, 2010 6:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You misunderstood.
What I was saying was this… “Playing Butler in order to get one game in front of his friends and family was a lousy reason to pick Louisville.”
No jealousy. I was making no comment whatever on Butler, or for that matter, Louisville.
The sweated out part was in reference to Cousins et. al. if Calipari had only 3 years remaining on his contract. When they came, Cousins, Bledsoe and Orton were not certain to be “one and done” like Wall, and could have been around for two or more years. My point was that Teague, as a consensus “one and done,” need not worry about Pitino’s contract, extended or not — theoretically, he would be gone after 2012-13, and Pitino’s final contract year is 2013-14.
Your cognitive hiccup renders most of your comment irrelevant, so I need not respond.
As to whether Calipari’s embrace of Wesley brought scrutiny on him, one can only wonder why. Wesley has never been accused of wrongdoing. The entirety of the fear and loathing surrounding Wesley is that he prefers to keep his business … well, his business. Nothing wrong with that. Just sayin’.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Glenn Logan on Apr 21, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the explanation.
I can see that now. Regardless, for whatever reason, Indianapolis has supplanted Louisville as a hot bed of high school basketball. I think scheduling Butler is a good thing regardless whether this plays into Teagues decision or not.
One can wonder why associating with Wes is good or not. It’s the perception. As they say, perception is reality. It is what it is and it is wasted words why it is fair or not.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
I wouldn't disagree about playing in Indy.
As far as perception goes, yeah, that’s true. But I guess my larger point was, why sweat the perception? It certainly hasn’t hurt recruiting, and UK’s status in the Commonwealth has never been higher.
In the end, having an unpopular friend in Wesley is more than offset by having a popular friend in LeBron. :-)
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Glenn Logan on Apr 21, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
great write Tru...
don’t these guys have anything better to do???…they could come and cut my grass, trim up the shrubs, wash my windows…any number of beneficial projects are to be had!!!
"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as much as you please."...Mark Twain.
Let's embrace Wes
as a valuable member of the Wildcat family. He obviously knows his basketball, and he earns the trust of some very good high school players, their families, college and pro coaches and pro players. He gives advice to kids — much of it apparently very good. He is Cal’s friend. Let’s accept him for who and what he is — a friend who can help once in a while.
just so long as he does it within the proper context and guidelines.....get the man a
“Refuse To Lose” T-shirt and a megaphone as far as I am concerned.
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
just wasted better part of a half hour reading
the simmons piece that included the encounter with wes. then i even followed his link to his open letter to blake griffen to run from the clippers. both were hilarious….
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by memphis wildcat on Apr 21, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions
Regardless of what rival bloggers think
I don’t think we think Cal can do no wrong. We are the Big Blue Nation. We connect with our program. We want to know what is going on, and most of all, we expect things to be done totally within the regulations. We have been down that road, and we don’t like it.
I have full faith in our compliance department and have not seen anything in my crystal ball that suggests things will go sour with Cal. The man is a great recruiter and the guys seem to genuinely like him. History says two schools where Cal has been has had to vacate wins because of violations. He may never shake those off his back, although he was found to be uninvolved. Do the naysayers think he seriously intends on adding number 3? That would probably be the end of his career, IMO. I am not so sure he could Bounce Back from that.
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
Thanks for the perspective, Hoze.
I can now clearly see that you are the same jackass you were when you “contributed” to this site before. Go play with your own friends. Maybe you could meet regularly at Porcini’s. Helpful hint, stay away from the mayo.
I may be paranoid, but that doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
Classy.
Let me give you a little perspective. In this one post, #1) I complimented Sandy Bell and Kentucky’s Athletic Department, and #2) agreed with Tru’s point that there is un-supported criticism of Calipari.
Your crass comment suggests that I somehow can be personally be insulted through the act of others. I guess that is where we differ. I don’t feel my personal self worth is either elevated nor torn down by the wins or losses of my alma mater. Neither by the actions of my alma mater’s coach. Certainly not by the decision of a high school senior where he decides to matriculate.
Geez, I feel dirty just replying to your post. I need a shower.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
Let's avoid the name calling.
We don’t do that here.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Glenn Logan on Apr 21, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
marquis.....
Would have lots more fun in Lexington. Plus the girls (sororities or otherwise) are way hotter @ UK.
And uL can’t touch the scene at keeneland.
Seriously….
Come to UK marquis. You won’t regret it.
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price. "
Vince Lombardi
by Kuhnnie on Apr 21, 2010 12:50 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Please accept my apologies, Tru.
I may be paranoid, but that doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
Well, I could use one.
Nah…..on second thought it’s a blog. Nevermind.
'..when they bring a knife, you bring a gun...that's the Chicago way..'
by HozeKing on Apr 21, 2010 4:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It is amazing
that the WWW discussions keep popping up. Cal obviously knows there is discomfort among the blue masses with the relationship and has acted accordingly. Think hard, when was the last time there was “news” about any dealings between Cal and WWW?
Yep, that relationship took a severe restriction as soon as Cal took the Kentucky job. Sandy Bell has spoken.
www getting tight with auburn now...
will be interesting to see who he gets to play basketball on the plains….
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by memphis wildcat on Apr 21, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Where there is smoke there is fire.
Why do universities NEED guys like him? It seems he has successfully inserted himself where he is not needed, and made a steady income as well. College BBall was doing just fine before the shoe companies and AAU ball.
"all the way"
but are they doing anything that isnt LEGAL and WITHIN NCAA GUIDELINES??
everyone knows they are out there and very prominent…..but are they doing anything that they shouldnt, or are people simply assuming that because they are there they are doing something dirty?
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If it is not dirty
Then what is the motivation? How does WWW benefit? That is the true answer. If he benefits financially, then from who, and why? I’m sure he is not running a charity.
"all the way"
Don't think anyone ever
indicated WWW makes any money directly from his basketball activity directly; although, his contacts ultimately may take part in his real estate business. As far as anyone can tell, he does it purely for the enjoyment, press and self satisfaction. I know, in this material world its hard to believe someone would do something like this for pure indulgement.
well, he is now an agent.......and that means there is only one way he can be involved with a player
and that is as his agent…..which means he should be fairly scarce around colleges now…..but again, maybe he just loves the game…..I know that if I was wealthy enough to be around it, I would go just because I love it that much. If I didnt have to be here every day, and I could get my foot in the door, I would find a way to involve myself with the UK Basketball and Football programs…..I love it that much. If that opportunity didnt avail itself to me, then I would try somewhere else.
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Its ll from the goodness of his heart
He doesn’t get anyting out of it. If he does that would ruin all the warm and fuzzy feeling that is attempting to be built here.
Tru said he was investigated once and apparently came out clean so why should we thing anything different?
He probably lives off the pot of gold that is at the end of the rainbow.
We are big on defending the down trotten, the accused, the whatever.
Actually, I ask the same question. Even Superman had to work a day at the newspaper to eat.
Where does he get his bankroll?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
Its another conspiracy!
First, we won’t know until some one leaks the story the NCAA is in town.
Second, who cares?
Third, is Kentucky Basketball a ‘virgin’ when it comes to investigations from the NCAA?
I don’t care if we are cheating or not. We’re winning. Isn’t that all that matters.
As I read on a tee shirt the other day -
‘Its all fun and games until someone loses a wienie’
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
Is that your real stand?
I know you can’t believe that: “I don’t care if we are cheating or not. We’re winning. Isn’t that all that matters?” q mark mine.
"all the way"
Of course its not
but are we really concerned about appearance?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
i just figured you out PG....
you want a football coach that will cheat so you no longer have to watch the downtrodden play at commonwealth stadium and we can get the likes of boise state to come play us and win…. :)
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Apr 21, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Cheating in football in the SEC is a god givin' right
we tried it with several coaches but, hell, we couldn’t even do that as good as the others.
I believe the last time we cheatedd we actually ended up with a worst team that before we started the cheating.
Ain’t it wonderful/
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
I cannot believe this.....someone over on card Chronicle is actually referring to their
multi million dollar facility as ……………………….
The Yum Bucket………..oh myyyyy……….
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Either a reference to the Chum Bucket of SpongeBob Squarepants fame...
Or something a little more unsavory…
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
So does that make Sypher .......
…… C _ _ Bucket?
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
I know.....
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
we ain't a little jealous are we?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
of what? what in the name of all that is good and Holy do we have to be jealous of at UL?
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The new arena. Or are we going to wait for a few more years so we can pay more for one.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
That is nothing to be jealous of.....I am tickled for them to get it.....it opens up Freedom Hall for
us to use. And it also helps college basketball. Seems you are the only one who is feeling jealous. The rest of us are simply having a laugh……you dont have to be jealous of someone to laugh at funny names.
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I loved the comment about Sypher. So much class.
Wonder why we aren’t hearing more about our assistant basketball coach and his involment with the program?
Surely you guys know some good drunk jokes.
Post them so we can laugh.
Joking about someone’s personal problems isn’t funny. BUT if it is let’s go for it.
Who’s got the frist joke?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
OK, someone made a classless comment.....it happens......we dont have to make it a federal case do we??
I expect there will be more to hear about Strickland when the time comes.
I thought about mentioning 2 guys and a drunk pig, but thats a whole other can of worms to open…..lol
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I heard one down here in Florida.
We were watching the Alabama Crimson and White game in a sports bar. My wife was wearing her Kentucky tee shirt.
A Florida fan was teasing us about the big crowd we’ll have Saturday at our scrimmage, etc
Some one mentioned that before every Alabama football game they all stand and sing ‘Sweet Home Alabama’.
One guy looked at us and said ‘next year in basketball we can have the fans stand and for the benefit of our recently arrested basketball coach, we could all sing ’Whiskey River".
Got a lot of laughs in the area of our table.
Funny aint’ ti?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
in a bar in Florida??.....yeah its pretty funny.......
remember something, the amount of humor in a statement is usually in direct correlation to where you are standing when you say it…….
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I bet
it would even get some laughs on Tates Creek Road.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
So
Instead of commenting on this ‘classless comment’ ymaybe saying that is was inappreatie for the board, you want my stuff? lol
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
hey.....it aint rocket science, nor heart surgery......just a bunch of fans getting online and
baring their souls….lol…..and sometimes their backsides…..
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A few
unsolicited (as usual) thoughts:
-the new downtown arena has an incredibly stupid name, solely because it is named after a company with an incredibly stupid name. “Yum!” is a name meant to sell fast food to people who don’t speak English; for instance, over a billion Chinese. I prefer The KFC Center and that’s what I’ll call it. However, the arena itself is nothing but a positive for the UofL athletic department and the city of Louisville. There are already businesses popping up near the construction site.
-Teague may very well go to UK, but it won’t be because of “the scene at Keeneland.” And, I’ll admit, it won’t be because Calipari is any shadier than anyone else. I really don’t get caught up in recruiting. It’s all pissing in the wind, really.
-We really should all meet at Porcini’s. The food there is quite excellent. “Yeah, something unsavory happened here four years ago. Yawn I’ll have the Capellini Con Pesce, please.”
by don'tshootmei'macard on Apr 22, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Heh.
I think this is right.
I think impugning Porcini’s because of an unfortunate event there that had nothing to do with the restaurant is unfortunate.
The downtown arena is a positive for U of L, no matter what people call it. Living in Louisville, I have seen it go up and it is a very nice addition to the city. I look forward to many victories there. :-)
But seriously, it is a nice place and the name is irrelevant to that fact. It is an asset to the city, and to the state of Kentucky.
As far as Teague goes, we will know sometime today.
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The "Yum Bucket"
I’m sorry, but the “Yum Bucket” just says it all. It’s a much more catchy nickname than the Atherosclerosis Arena or the Fatty Liver Forum.
by BlueCollarMan on Apr 22, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
If we ever get a new arena
You can BET YOUR A** it will be better than Louisvile’s – and that is just the cold hard truth talking there, no jealousy necessary. One should just look at the facilities of the Joe Craft Center and Wildcat Lodge and rest assured that any new arena built to house a dynasty like UK will UNDOUBTEDLY overshadow anything that UofL will ever have.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Apr 22, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
are you high?
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
That comment is past PG. Please don't do that again.
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My bad Tru
You are correct….it was over the line.
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
ABC
Before this is done they may invite me back to “Chicken Cronicle” Chicken house may be mild compared to the other things it is being called.
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I shouldnt have brought it up, but I couldnt believe one of their own fans posted it
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Tru
I must have mssed it but where’s the beef? Or conspiracy?
I don’t understand this sentence _
He does not obviously have the ability to “steer” players to a school, a team, or an agent, but he may well have the ability to make a case for them to do so that is persuasive to some
Is steering not being presuasive? Do he have the ability to presude young men to go to a certain school or not?
And this paragraph -
Calipari does not need to have LeBron or William Wesley “advise” his recruiting targets to come to Kentucky — they already know that Calipari has those connections. They already know Calipari has a track record of getting players ready for the NBA. They already know that Calipari plays an NBA-ready style, and that he is friends with lots of NBA superstars including LeBron James. They know that Calipari has coached in the NBA and, unlike other coaches, continues to develop relationships with the movers and shakers in that league. Calipari has boldly gone where his peers were irrationally afraid to go, and he is reaping the rewards of his efforts — which, by the way, appear to be perfectly above board.
Would Rick Pitino have the same ability? Maybe not with LeBron but with others who has gone from his teams to the league?
We are getting to the point of the little boy who cryed Wolf. Throw enough of this stuff at the wall and some of it might actually stick.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
Pitino used to have it.....but it seems to have up and disappeared from his repetoire.....
the conspiracy theorists abound on all of this stuff Paris…..you cant look at ESPN.com or any other sports website without them hitting you right in the face…..and as much of a conspiracy theorist as I am, I cannot find one speck of anything to make any of it worthwhile……When all irrational arguments are set aside ( Cal has some voodoo going, WWW is actually a witch doctor in disguise, etc.) the only thing left here is sour grapes. I would be the first one yelling from the mountaintops if I could find ANYTHING to yell about…..but there is nothing…..there isnt anything going on that is not 100% within the rules and guidelines the NCAA lays down, that is any part od any public record anywhere…….I have looked under every rock, checked every source, and asked everyone I know involved with the program in any manner. I even got a distant relative of mine who is in law enforcement to ask around to some of his buddies in Memphis about anything shady that might have been going on there…..no one knew of anything….If there is anything going on that shouldnt be, then there is someone with a cloaking device standing beside it. And as best as I can tell those havent been invented yet……but I am checking on that as well…….lol
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Calipari is sending more guys to the NBA this year
Than Pitino has sent in his entire time at UofL.
That carries weight.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
you better believe it.....and Pitino has severed some of his NBA ties I believe on purpose, simply because
he dislikes what it has become that much……just my opinion
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ABC
How many players do you think pick their college by the type of basketball shoes they wear?
Now there is somethiing we certainly should look into. Would Pearl have changed to Nike if he only had know the effect it would have had on recruiting.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
Not sure how to answer that, now If you are asking if Nike or Adidas enters into it,vs. which coach to play for then my answer would be no.
If you are asking where kids want to be to get the inside track on shoe deals, etc. then I would have to say yes. But again, there is nothing wrong with that per the guidelines……these kids are establishing relationships that may suit them well into their adult lives, whether they go pro or not.
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I can tell you this, If I am a kid wanting to make my living from sports in some fashion or another
whether it be playing, coaching, marketing, or whatever, I want to be where I will be paid the most handsomely for my services. That may sound like a very self-serving answer, but it is the only one I have.
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I guess when UofL starts playing at their new place
it will give the term “double down” whole new meaning.
I may be paranoid, but that doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
Doesn't seem right
How come little brother got a new arena before us? I guess Mitch was too busy fixing the footba -. nevermind
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
because little brother has been playing in a place that was much worse than we have had for a lot longer time
they needed a new arena…..who cares if they got one now?…..why do you insist on making something out of nothing Paris???
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Its amaizing we can even admit they are going to be playing in a new buiding. No way it could be more modern is there?
if it anin’t Kentucky it ain’t worth a sh-t!
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
"if it anin’t Kentucky it ain’t worth a sh-t!"
Amen brother.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Apr 22, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m really surprised we would expose our players to playing in that building are you?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
sure.....I wanna be the first team to beat their backsides in it......but the way their recruiting is going, Butler might beat us to it
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Ain't it funny if it involves Louisville, or Duke or North Carolina is automaticly wrong?
Now I know we play in the palace of college basketball. No doublt about it.
But didn’t I hear some on this board lamenting the fact that Jeff Lebo was shafted because he wasn’t going to get to coach in the new arena and all the recruits it was going to attract and better their basketball program?
And the Craft Center. We absolutely had to have it because it would be a new practice facility and would attract better recruits?
So Louisville wants it own arena. They build it and already its terrible. And I bet it won’t help them in recruiting either.
Maybe that’s what wrong with our football program. The Nutter Center isn’t as good as Alabama’s or Florida’s so we aren’t expected to play the top quality of football that the other’s do.
Be I just haven’t figured out why we need these other things, like the Craft Center and when other’s build something we want to immediately critize them for doing so.
And make up your minds. Is Freedom Hall good enough for us to play there or are we going to get giddy for having the opportunity to get to play there more often?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
no one said the place was terrible....they said the name was......you wanna go visit the YUM! Center??
it just sounds wrong…..lol….Rupp Arena may not be the palace of college basketball, but it is one of the most iconic places to play……I personally think it is a great place, but maybe not the cathedral to the game we would like to have, but we have done ok with it……and they will build something downtown or elsewhere when the time is right…..the economy sucks right now……I am frankly amazed that Lousiville was able to keep the funding together to finish theirs….kudos to them……Jeff Lebo might have done better with a new arena, he might not, but that is is Auburn, not UK……there is much more here than Rupp Arena…..
You have this bad tendency Paris to make everything into a confrontational discussion…..I really hope you dont have to live this way…..would make for some really terrible ulcers…..
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I'd love to go.
See. I’m a sports fan.
And you can bet if someone gives 10 million for the naming rights to a new faciliry at Kentucky Mitch will accept it.
Craft Center? lol made out of cheeze? Funny? I bet its tough to dribble on swiss with all the holes in it. Funny no. Maybe in Louisville.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
Probably so, but thats what they do......they gripe groan and laugh at us,
and we do the same to them….its called a rivalry……guys do that kind of thing……
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I really don't understand you.
You would reasons to complain about a wet dream.
“I would rather have been dreaming about a super model.” – ParisGuy
Well, thank you
I’m not into guy but if I find someone who is, I’ll tell them to look you up.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
Kraft is the cheese company,
craft is something you build or create. The only holes around here are the ones in your logic.
I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.
Paris ...
… please get off your high horse. Let people have a little fun.
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obtuse is the word i was looking for...
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Apr 22, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Some people are taking way to much into this...
The KFC YUM! Center is a dumb name – even Louisville fans think so. So What? It’s a lame name. Period.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Apr 22, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
WWW Scanned By Professionals
The most bewildering aspect of the conjecture and assumptions put forth relating to William Wesley by the posters here, the various bloggers and anyone else who has the inclination to opine is that, one, most are the rankest of amateurs when it comes to unearthing facts, and, two, Wesley, one could surmise, has been investigated by professionals, folks who could earn a Pulitzer, seriously enhance their position in the journalism world, not to mention the monetary dividends. Yet not one of the rakers of muck have found a shred of evidence of wrongdoing. Until such time as that occurs I’ll consider the disparaging of Mr. Wesley to be only the thoughts and words of the envious, invidious axe-grinders. Or, put in a more aphoristic fashion: Embrace the hate.
"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek
The Lex-Herald did exactly that at one time.
But the journalists and employees didn’t like the idea of starting up their cars and wondering what could happen.
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by HozeKing on Apr 21, 2010 6:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That sounds like
something that would happen in your home town.
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thats a rather bold statement to make without proof in and of itself there Hoze.......care to share? or do you intend t just leave that
out there with nothing to back it up?
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There may be mention in the archives but I can't look it up in the Geo. Bush Airport
However, I was personal friends with sports writer at the paper at the time. Our respective wives were close high school friends and each was in the others wedding. I can’t write anymore than that. You’ll have to trust me I guess. But you are correct, I wouldn’t have written it if I didn’t have proof.
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by HozeKing on Apr 21, 2010 9:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I will give you the benefit of the doubt, but I do wonder who would have been the ones making the threats.....
and if that indeed is the case, I would hope that time has removed those responsible from this earth so they are no longer a threat to those who would ask the questions…..
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Wonder if there was any truth to the rumor the players at the time wouldn’t shake hands with the men who flocked to the locker room after the games because with the NCAA in town, there wasn’t going to be any hundred dollar bills in their palms?
Funny ain’t it?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
Don’t fuorget we’re just a bunch of guys having fun. Hell, if we can’t laugh at our own program why laugh at others?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
Paris,
the thing is, you make snide remarks about UK and stand up for our rivals. ’Nuff said.
Now I think you guys need to stop this, please.
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I have erred again on
my second. comment as well. The repost was for PG….not a2d2…total apologies. I need to just read for the rest of the night. Again a2d2…sorry for the mixup. I enjoy your comments.
I knew what you meant
Comment on, I enjoy your comments as well.
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You are exactly correct.
i don’t see any reason to belittle someone who has personal problems? Do you?
I read about how we hate this and hate that. The conspriracies.
It I wanted to come on here and agree with the reasoning that UK is always perfect, I’d be the greatest guy in the bunch. But I read comments that redicule the other teams and its wrong. Of course we hate Duke. Why? Wouldn’t be they are accomplishing something we would dearly love to have going for us? And North Carolina, the same. Bobby Knight, we hate him the most. certainly nothing to do with the fact that he has more wins than any of our coaches. current or pass?
Florida, Tennessee and South Carolina. Well, actually not South Carolina, just Steve Spurrier. And now we get to hate Tennessee basketball a little more because Pearl has built a program that is damn good.
Het’s hate instead of trying to get better. Its easier. Sure we don’t like admitting these other programs are doing well. In basketball we will have the chance to improve and get to Duke’s level. I hope we do.
In football actually there is alot of teams we can ‘hate’. But let’s go on doing that instead of spending the money, which we had no problem doing in basketball to fix the situation, we can just go one hating and accept it.
I have tickets in both basketball and football to the UK games. I actually quit going to the games when Pitino was there. The man was trying to be too big for the program. My opinion.
I don’t have to hate someone else’s success to find pleasure. I envy what they are doing. And I want us to have the same.
CA, don’t question my loyality. I’ve been a fan a long time And watching a good athletic program succeed is entertaining. It doesn’t have to have on a Kentucky jersey, althought I wish more did.
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
Paris your quote ...
It I wanted to come on here and agree with the reasoning that UK is always perfect, I’d be the greatest guy in the bunch.
So just a question. Do you see it as your duty to provide us with everything negative you can think of about UK just to be a balancing factor? Everything that is wrong, that’s all you have to say. Try posting something they do right, every once and a while. I promise it won’t kill you. Just try it. I am not saying you have to do it all the time. Lighten up a little. :-)
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I've tried reasoning
and even given suggestions on proposing positive, constructive discussion. It doesn’t work. Save your effort for someone capable of viewing themselves through the eyes of others.
I had to try again, it had been a while
Enduring wasn’t working, tonight. ’-)
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
Every group
seems to have a curmudgeon, Paris is ours. Gotta love him!
I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.
or not....
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Apr 22, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
…and it is ALL THE TIME. I swear, I would never even know that he was a UK fan – and I’m not being an ass, I really wouldnt. I would venture than anyone reading 99% of his comments would assume he was a fan of a rival school or worse one of those “I dont care who succeeds as long as its not Kentucky” people. I mean, if I had all the negative feelings toward the Kentucky program as it seems he does, I dont know what the benefit of being a “fan” is for him.
It is not worth an intelligent man’s time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
by kentuckygirl0724 on Apr 22, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Wrong
Read the comments and try to look at them as I do. There is other programs in the NCAA who have excellent results. Yep. in basketball too.
We, the Kentucky faithful seem to feel we are just a little better than others. Louisville gets a new arena. We have to make fun of the name. We even have a couple of people who want to make sexual slants on the name. Do we really need to do that? We make comments about all the things we hate. Do we really need to do that? Of course if I make fun of our missteps, our failures, the failures, its terrible. But we can laugh off these thngs and say its all in fun. When is hating some program or person or organization fun? You might dislike their success but do you need to show your biase by saying disparging things about them?
I’m a fan who wants all programs to be successful. Not just the basketball team. Am I a fan? Yes. Do I think if its done under the guise of Kentucky athletics its always correct. No.
Do you?
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
Because this is a UK forum.
If you want to make fun of UK, go over to Card Chronicle or someplace — there are tons of other places to do it. Or start a FanPost. But what you are doing here is changing the subject and baiting everyone, and harshing my mellow in the process.
Rethink you program, please, and re-read the community guidelines.
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I have a difficult time
with your comments for several reasons. My strongest reaction to what you offer is that you are not a fan of Kentucky. You have nothing constructive to say. Your comments are mostly negative and critical. Your overall motivation appears to be that you ……a non Kentucky fan…have better information and better judgment than those of us who are here to support the Kentucky team. I can’t imagine reading a Duke or NC blog. I certainly would never read a U of L one. I have no interest in those teams and I cannot imagine the readers of the blogs have any interest in my opinions of their teams. After all, I am not a fan so what would be my motive to be offering comments on a fan page. Just wondering.
sorry
took so long to write I got posted on the wrong comment. My comment was in response to Hk and the Herald Leader comment above.
A funny night.....
as I read where my comments were posted…they fit both places.
Who are you to say I am not a fan?
A little judgmental for not knowing me, don’t you think?
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by HozeKing on Apr 21, 2010 10:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Your profile says you are a Card fan
That was your choice. It seems non-judgmental at all.
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Did it say anywhere that 'I am not a fan of UK'?
I mean you’re interested enough to go read my profile (honestly, I am a little creeped-out right now). Go back and read again and let me know what you find out.
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by HozeKing on Apr 21, 2010 10:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sorry Hoze, not interested,
In fact, your red bird creeps me out. Just like the JD Becker store in the ’Ville that has all that red stuff in the same building as the beautiful UK stuff. ;-)
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
at least i have seen hoze compliment uk
(and even Cal) from time to time. cannot recall anything positive from pg…
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Apr 22, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes !
You can be assured many have looked. And looked long and hard.
So it goes that when you cannot find facts to support your claims you make assertions without merit like those above.
I can hear it now if....
the NCAA passes the new guidelines for foreign player eligibility in August, the haters will be calling it “the Calipari rule”. Give me a break!
Pretty soon ...
… we’ll be calling every new rule the “Calipari rule.” There already is one, so I suppose we’ll have to add roman numerals after them.
Calipari Rule XXXV — No coach who is a known associate of an NBA player shall engage in recruiting of a prospective student athlete, especially if such coach is a male of Italian descent with a name beginning in “C” and ending with “I”, except on a case-by-case basis. Permission must be granted by a license, in writing, provided by the Enforcement Division of the NCAA Compliance Office. Application for a recruiting license must be made in 16 originals and 32 copies attested by a notary public. Applications must be delivered in person to:
The National Collegiate Athletic Association
700 W. Washington Street
Indianapolis, Indiana 46206-6222
Applications must include, at minimum, the name and address of the prospective student athlete, the proposed length of the meeting (not to exceed 1 hour), and a detailed description of what is to be discussed. Generalizations like “recruiting the player to come to Kentucky” are not allowed.
Decisions on visits can take 4-6 months, so plan ahead.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Well, so much for bringing in that Canneloni guy from the bronx......geez this is going to get difficult....
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
That is funny Tru
I want to know how numbers I-XXXIV read now. :-)
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!
You forgot to finish that rule tru:
Licenses may be revoked after the recruit plays at the school at the discretion of the NCAA.
If that happens, the recruit will be deemed ineligible and all games in which he played will be retroactively vacated, but the NCAA will keep all ticket and TV revenue earned in those same games.
I believe its that conspiracy thing
I have be correctly accused of having a 'football fetish'. You know, someone who doesn't think football is the warm up sport to basketball season.
Next rule...
No school can sign more than one top ten recruit in any given year. So much for Cal getting 5 (at least) out of the top 10 every year. Good grief!!!
Hey Ya'll
Just landed at Nashville International, from my annual fishing trip to Michigan. Have been on Lake St. Clair for a solid week. Away from the t.v. and the internet. I haven’t missed anything, have I? LOL! No really, as soon as I arrived in Detroit, I heard about B. Knight. Just heard about D. Lamb when I got home. Can’t wait for the next big name to sign…GO CATS!!!
"You are what you are and you ain't what you ain't"
Press conference from PPat on Friday
JW tomorrow.
Hope you had a big catch !
Blue... there is no other color to Bleed !!!

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