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Trading Tom Gugliotta for John Wall... don't laugh... it may have already happened


So in my boredom between appointments, I was perusing nbadraft.net's latest mock draft.  I got curious about Utah having a high lottery selection and I hit their link for Outstanding 2010 trades and saw that the pick had been acquired through a 2004 trade involving sending Tom Gugliotta to Utah and Stephon Marbury to New York.  Out of all the tomfoolery, Utah obtained two conditional first round picks... one of which was an unprotected pick in this year's draft.

As we all know, the New Jersey Nets have the best chance at landing the number 1 overall pick (25% chance); but the Knicks/Jazz have a 2.2% chance to obtain that pick. 

I knew that NBA deals got convoluted, but never in my wildest dreams did I think that a deal from 2004 involving an aging player averaging 2.3 points a game would affect where John Wall plays basketball.

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Doc

I posted this earlier on another thread. I found out by being a Suns fan. They posted it on “Bright Side of the Sun” some time back. Like you I was surprised how a pick could last that long. I know it involved “Starbury” from the Suns but didn’t remember the rest og the story. 2,3 and more way trades can be confusing. Good post.

Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !

by oldcat73 on Apr 20, 2010 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

On another note

I don’t think the Jazz will want Wall while they have Deron Williams. But he would make good trading material.

Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !

by oldcat73 on Apr 20, 2010 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry, I didn't see your earlier post

Like I said, I stumbled across it earlier yesterday and was just stunned.

I think as you say, the rights to John Wall are probably almost as valuable as the player himself and would actually probably be better in the end for Wall. Imagine if Utah got his rights and then traded him somewhere like Cleveland or Miami.

Or they could trade down a handful of picks and get a player and the ability to still draft Cousins. Most mocks I see have them taking Greg Monroe after Cousins is already off the board.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Apr 21, 2010 8:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Doc

No need to say your sorry. I never meant for that. I just mentioned it in an earlier post.

Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !

by oldcat73 on Apr 21, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tom Gugliotta

WOW! Thanks for this. I needed a mention of one of my favorite players from NBA Live 2000! LOL

by Acdixon on Apr 21, 2010 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

He was big for me back then too!

We played a lot of Live 98 in my dorm room in Richmond College back in my sophomore year.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Apr 21, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love live 98

I take Portland with their awesome depth.

"all the way"

by ro307805 on Apr 21, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I loved Phoenix and Steve Nash et al

I had a friend who played as Houston that I could never beat though. Somehow, he used to throw it the length of the court on every inbounds pass to Olajuwan at the free throw line and take one step and dunk it.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Apr 21, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

r2 is alley hoop.

The Dream can do it from half court.

"all the way"

by ro307805 on Apr 21, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was unstoppable!

We had a lot of fun with that game. Haven’t played any version of that game in probably close to 10 years. My brother had the 2k Hoops NCAA game from 2008 with updated rosters for his PS3 and it was pretty decent though.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Apr 21, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I run emulators on my PC

To play those kinds of games. How about Tecmo Superbowl?

"all the way"

by ro307805 on Apr 21, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly, not even the most advanced of Madden games

Could ever match the perfection that was the original Tecmo Super Bowl.

Honestly, running backwards to your own end zone and then throwing the ball 100 yards for a touchdown??

Running in zig-zags to avoid tackles???

The epicness that was Bo Jackson?

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Apr 21, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take Live 95

The first one I ever played was Live 95. For a while, I tore it up with Houston, but then I switched to Utah when I discovered that John Stockton and John Crotty could apparently blast right through any defender with a layup and get the foul called. I put up 215 points in one game and my computer froze up because there was no sound file for “two hundred”. LOL

by Acdixon on Apr 22, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had Live 95 on the Genesis

A lot of fun.

Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."

by chirop1 on Apr 23, 2010 9:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Googs!

This has nothing to do with anything, but I remember getting to watch Gugliotta play against the Suns in 2005 when he was with the Hawks. That happens to be the only NBA game I’ve ever been to, but it was fun. A friend of mine loved Gugliotta and was very excited when he came into the game.

3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.

by JLeverenz on Apr 21, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

and i thought the drama was...

only with the college recruitments!!!…this is crazy…why don’t they just ask JW, Cuz, PPat and Bledsoe where THEY want to play???…i know, crazy thought!!!

"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as much as you please."...Mark Twain.

by KYCatwoman on Apr 21, 2010 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

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