The Big Blue Daily Mail -- Spring Shakeout Edition
Lots of stuff going on around the basketball and football world at this moment. Talk of Big Ten expansion, talk of a conference arms race, NCAA investigations, endless coaching searches, waiting for more UK basketball commitments, football heading toward the spring game and a partridge in a pear tree.
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Josh Selby picks Kansas, plans short stay - College Basketball Nation Blog - ESPN
Exactly how long will he be in Lawrence?
"God willing one year," Selby said. "But I have to get where I need to be."
Okay, where are the "intentions police?" All those who have criticized Calipari for recruiting guys who have "no intention to graduate," you can head on over and go all sanctimonious on the Kansas Jayhawk sites now.
C'mon, be consistent ...
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Vaught's Views: Calipari will add more top recruits: AMNews.com
Could UK get Leslie and Jones? Two words ... damn skippy. -
courier-journal.com | Jody Demling - Recruiting blog | The Courier-Journal
Rick Bolus' High Potential Recruiting Service has ranked Elizabeth (N.J.) St. Patrick forward Michael Gilchrist as the No. 1 player in the Class of 2011.
But you knew this.
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C.J. Leslie will announce college choice soon - College - NewsObserver.com
A planned visit to Florida for this week won't happen, he said, adding for the umpteenth time that parched Wolfpack fans and others could expect an announcement, he said, "I would say shortly, maybe in a couple of weeks. ... I'm definitely ready to just go ahead and get on with it now."
Three words, C.J. -- Dribble Drive Motion. You are perfect for it.
More after the jump.
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Hartline leads Cats QB derby | cincinnati.com | Cincinnati.Com
Next Saturday, the University of Kentucky football team wraps up its spring practice schedule. The race to be the Wildcats' starting quarterback next fall figures to linger longer.
Ryan Mossakowski and Morgan Newton need to impress soon. Hartline is building momentum.
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Cats WR bounces back from dangerous injury - Kentucky Football - Ledger-Enquirer.com
Very interesting article. I think Brian Adams will help us a little this year, but a lot next year. -
Kentucky Sports Radio " Blog Archive " Arizona recruit’s father says Coach Cal is a failure
Did you see this? Funny. -
courier-journal.com | Jody Demling - Recruiting blog | The Courier-Journal
Portland, Ore., forward Terrence Jones said a few things have drawn him to looking closer at the University of Kentucky basketball program during his recruiting process.
Come on over, Terrence. You will find no equal to the Big Blue Nation, and we do have ... ahem ... seven of what you covet. Come get some.
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CBS-Turner Outbids ESPN For NCAA Tournament | Seattle Times Newspaper
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NBA Draft: Top Five Most Ready - Basketball News & NBA Rumors -
John Wall – 6'3 Point Guard
Right now there are simply not enough reasons to go anywhere other than John Wall with the top overall selection. The success John Calipari guards are having in the NBA is no fluke and Wall should quickly find himself mentioned with the likes of Derrick Rose and Tyreke Evans. His speed is game-changing and he is a collected customer under pressure.
I think this is right.
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Ratings war goes to Cats - Business - Kentucky.com
In a year with fans' high expectations, the University of Kentucky men's basketball team dribbled rings around Winter Olympians among television viewers.
Surprising no one.
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Teague in middle of Kentucky recruiting war | IndyStar.com | The Indianapolis Star
Except the longer Teague delayed his decision, the more the advantage seemed to shift to Kentucky. Calipari is sending more guys to the NBA this season (five) than the four Pitino has sent to the league during nine seasons at Louisville.
Now there is an interesting statistic for you.
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Singler returning for Duke - Duke - NewsObserver.com
Not a surprise, really. He was a late, late first-rounder at best. -
Forbes: Missing on Selby 'hurt' " GoVolsXtra
Many suspected the influence of Nike was at work, and thought Kentucky would enter the recruiting picture.
But Selby never set foot on the Wildcats' campus for a visit, and Kentucky wasn't a finalist for his services.
I am accepting apologies from UT fans who claimed that Calipari back-doored Pearl on this, and that William Wesley convinced Selby to decommit from UT to come to Kentucky.
Conspiracy theories are for losers.
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College Conferences Ponder Expansion and Extinction - NYTimes.com
In the aftermath of the A.C.C.’s plucking of Virginia Tech, Miami and Boston College in 2003, the Big East put in place what would appear to be some prohibitive measures for conferences swiping universities. One is a $5 million penalty for a university to leave. The other is a minimum 27-month waiting period — an eternity in college football — for a Big East university to join a new league.
This may not stop the Big Ten from being a vampire, but I think it just might.
The bottom line is that no matter how greedy the Big Ten gets, 12 still looks like the best number for a conference. In the end, after all this Sturm und Drang, I expect that's where they'll end up.
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JM: So has the NIT run its course?
CK: If you're the NCAA and you've got 65 and 32, and you manage and run both of those tournaments, doesn't it make sense to put all those teams under one roof? Perhaps making the two into one makes one really good, big-time tournament. Those are reasonable options to explore, especially when you think about the money.
I like the idea of two tournaments, an upper and lower tier. Combining them into one does two things -- it eliminates a tradition that had been working just fine, and makes the tournament that much less watchable in the early rounds.
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If Big Ten Expands Will SEC Follow? Ranking the Expansion Candidates -- NCAAFB FanHouse
If you forget about everything but the TV markets as the driver, this is all pretty logical. - BCS chief Bill Hancock says potential expansion won't change attitude toward playoff - Orlando Sentinel
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Big Ten expansion coming soon - College Basketball Nation Blog - ESPN
If the Big Ten goes to 16 teams, how much longer before the SEC, Pac-10, ACC or Big 12 expand? One 16-team conference is an interesting idea. Two is officially an arms race.
Trust me, if the Big Ten expands beyond 12 teams, it will be an arms race.
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Daigneault: Interesting times in Storrs The Republican-American
Heh. Kentucky has seen times like this before. Hopefully, though, they won't return for some time. -
OU basketball coach Jeff Capel addresses postseason turmoil, won't discuss Tiny Gallon | NewsOK.com
If you think that losing all our freshmen was tough, just read this article. Things could be one heck of a lot worse than having to reload. -
Nike Connection - Card Chronicle
You need to read this. It gave me a belly-laugh for 5 minutes.
I'll say it again -- conspiracy theories are for losers. (Note: This is the opinion of one Cardinal fan, not all of them, and is not an invitation to go over to the Card Chronicle and act like a jerk. Just enjoy the unintentional humor, and embrace the hate.)
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Dana O'Neil: So what's taking so long at Oregon? - ESPN
Botched coaching searches are nothing new. Kentucky stumbled and bumbled is way through Billy Donovan and Rick Barnes before landing on Billy Gillispie three years ago. But as drawn-out as that process seemed at the time, the Wildcats still went from Tubby Smith to Gillispie in a matter of 13 days.
But boy, is there a lot of difference between coach at Kentucky and coach at Oregon. I don't care how much money you come up with, drawing a name coach to Oregon is going to be a tough thing to do.
I highly recommend they look in the mid-majors and quit kidding themselves. The next "name" coach has got to come from somewhere -- at this point, what do the Ducks have to lose?
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OU basketball: Capel supporters seem few | Berry Tramel's Blog
That’s relatively unheard of. In the dark days of Sooner football, some zealots supported John Blake and even Howard Schnellenberger almost to the bitter end. Some hoop fans supported Kelvin Sampson even after the NCAA violations.
But support for Capel seems minimal.
Hey, Oregon -- need a coach? I think I know where there is a proven one that is feeling the heat right now, and a few dollars more (plus his buy-out) might look like a sweet deal.
Of course, if he is implicated in the Gallon affair, that could be trouble. But you could always ask the NCAA. It worked for us.
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The Effect of a Potential NBA Lockout on NCAA Basketball
The author thinks the net effect of an NBA lockout would boil down to a lot of early entries this year and many of the 2010 players like Brandon Knight and Harrison Barnes hanging around for another year.
This does make some sense, and it would be a really, really good thing for Kentucky basketball if it turns out that way.
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Rivals.com College Basketball - Best of the decade: The one-year players
Interesting. I think I pretty much agree with this. Cousins is good, but he is no Greg Oden.
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This is the part of the off-season that I hate most.....
of course it happens during the season as well, but when people start yaking pot shots at us just because they are bored, it must be off-season…..That kid’s father out in ‘Zona has got his head buried in the sand so far his athlete’s foot is being aggravated by it.
I, like you Tru, am waiting for all of the outrage for Selby, on both fronts….UT AND the world…..
If the Big Ten becomes the next “Super-Conference” we have to make a move in the SEC…..something must be done to keep us in the mix of things for these overgrown leagues they are forming all over the country. If they are going to do this, then why not just make all of the conferences that way…..this is going to become a whole other war of the “haves and have nots”.
I swear I do not understand the Oregon situation……is it so bad up there that no one wants to go at all?? Surely there is some really hungry coach out there just dying to prove themselves??
Glad to see Singler go back to Duke…..now we only have 350 lottery picks out there for 30 teams……
Clark Kellogg is just spewing what his employer wants to hear….which is what he is best at.
Jeff Capel might need iron underwear before these next couple years are over….
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Top 25 Recruits (Vaught Article)
Calipari has now signed Wall, Cousins, Bledsoe, Kanter, Knight, Lamb – that’s 6 in 2 years. That is consistent with Joe Hall’s recruiting in 1970’s and 80’s or Eddie Sutton’s recruits in 1980’s, although Sutton paid good $$$ for some of those recruits.
Pitino (for example) only signed 7 such recruits in 8 years at UK – Mashburn, Delk, Rhodes, McCarty, Walker, Mercer, Turner.
Tubby (again EG) signed 8 such recruits in 10 years at UK – Prince, Bogans, Stone, Parker, Carruth, Morris, Crawford, Rondo.
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 20, 2010 10:26 AM EDT reply actions
A few of the Hall top 25 were a bust, but he signed a bunch of them.
Among Pitino’s 7, the easiest to criticize was Rhodes, but he was very good in stretches.
Among Tubby’s, several were busts: Stone, Carruth and Morris and/or Parker (arguably). And that is out of only 8. Parker was actually very good and effective as a frosh and I thought he would be a big time player for us one day, but he left after only one year never to be heard from again.
The best recruiting Pitino ever did was of JC players
Heshimu Evans comes to mind immediately
"all the way"
That and transfers.....Pope, Anderson.....wasnt there another big name he transferred in??
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Pitino Took 4 Div I Transfers
Ford in 1990, Pope in 1993, Anderson in 1994, and Evans in 1996.
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 20, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasn't there a guy named Knight that he brought in?
Or was that Tubby?
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Tubby Signed Nate Knight In 1999
After John Stewart died. Knight was not a target but a late replacement.
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 20, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Evans NOT A JuCo
He transferred from Div I Manhattan.
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 20, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Missed The Point (Again)
Calipari is a BETTER RECRUITER of 5 Star (Top 25) players than EITHER Pitino or Tubby.
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 20, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just fine with all of this offseason hoopla until I got my LExy message from Cal this morning, and he pointed out that
we have to replace 70 pts and 34 rebounds a game……
I am now officially sweating again…..
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Tru, you have never spoken word that were more true than this:
Conspiracy theories are for losers.
That goes for all areas of life.
Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel
is just a freight train coming your way.
Amen.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
by Glenn Logan on Apr 20, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
That is exactly what Keyser Soze and World Wide Wes want you to believe.
Who is World Wide Wes? He is supposed to be Turkish. Some say his father was German. Nobody believed he was real. Nobody ever saw him or knew anybody that ever worked directly for him, but to hear the Loser Basketball Teams tell it, anybody could have worked for WWW. You never knew. That was his power. The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist. And like that, poof. He’s gone.
"The Usual Suspects" was an awesome movie.
I wouldn’t say that I’m usually genuinely surprised when watching movies, but the ending of that one totally shocked me and I love it when a movie can do that. It was enjoyable the first time you watched it, and even more enjoyable the second time around. Very mysterious and fabulous, that movie.
Totally agree
If anyone here hasn’t seen it – rent it. Kevin Spacey is incredible.( Also recommend K-Pax.)
I was kind of glad that Selby went to a school other than UK ...
All of our recruits to this point, seem to be good kids with good attitudes … team chemistry means alot … we’ve all seen how a problem player can poison a team (Carruth). Not saying that Selby is that kiindof a kid …. I just like the attitudes of our recruits ….
Selby And Momma Interview
Heard KLWN (Lawrence) interview with Josh and Maeshon and came away with a whole different POV. She’s one bright lady who’s very well informed.
"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek
I just haven't heard something along the lines of an Eric Bledsoe type comment from him ...
LIke he just wanted to come in and contribute and didn’t mind sharing playing time with another very good point guard (JW) .. or playing at the two spot if another point was already committed (Knight). I’m sure he’s a good kid and he’ll be great for Kansas
Nothing new.
Some people say UK. Some say the Dirty Birds. I have no clue.
A Sea of Blue -- Kentucky Sports for the Discerning Fan
Supposed to know on Thursday I believe
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Looks like the offseason is a thrill a minute
When we calm down; can anyone see us having 4 to 5 walk-ons just to fill the practice squad? Our depth for 2010-11 looks very shallow.
"all the way"
Really glad to
see Brian Adams is going to be back after a bad health scare. He’s going to have a major impact.
For Those Wondering > Hall And Sutton Top 25 Recruits
Hall – 0 in 1972. 0 in 1973.
Givens and Robey in 1974. Willoughby and Foschi in 1975. Williams, Shidler, and Macy in1976.
0 in 1977.
Anderson, Tillman, and Verderber in 1978. Bowie, Hord, Minniefield, and Hurt in 1979. Bearup and Master in 1980.
0 in 1981.
Walker and Harden in 1982. Bennett and Blackmon in 1983. Davender, Madison, and Jenkins in 1984. Thomas in 1985.
Total of 24 in 14 years.
Sutton – Chapman in 1986. Manuel and Ellis in 1987. Mills and Kemp in 1988.
Then 0 in 1989.
Total of 5 in 4 years.
Calipari trumps all of them.
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 20, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions
Lots of underperformers
Several may have been top 25 in the ratings, but they didn’t contribute much to the program.
Pitino’s picks appear to be the most productive; Tubby was 5 of 8. Both had mostly 2-4 year players.
Cal’s top 25ers seem to offer more. Are the ratings better now? Are the players better? Has the game changed? Is Cal a better judge of talent/character? A better teacher?
Or will we eventually see a reversion to the mean?
Just a thought
The younger players are better. They are better developed,stronger and been exposed to more playing. Most play more today what with AAU,school than they used to. Exposure is better from internet,TV and the world is smaller now. All the good players are now known by coaches.
Happy Days are here again The sky is all ways BLUE again Happy days are here again !
Calipari Better Than His 4 Predecessors As A Recruiter
No doubt in my mind.
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 20, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Rick Pitino better at assessing players who are not 5 star
Tubby and Pitino both did a fine job developing players. Tubby was particularly adept at developing big guys; which is odd considering his teams consistently froze out the post.
"all the way"
Tubby better at developing big guys
I’m not meaning to start a debate…
But could you elaborate? I’m not sure I can think of what you mean. Unless you are talking about getting more from undersized guys like Chuck Hayes.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
How about Shageri Allene?
This guy could not walk and chew bubble gum at one time, he shaped up into a passable ballplayer. Marquis Estill went from an afterthought to a very dangerous post presence. Just 2, there is more…How about Daniels? A 6’7" post guy that actually was effective? Just the attitude adjustment of Daniels deserved a COY award.
"all the way"
I think that your post is the first time I have ever heard
Shagari Allene referred to as a passable ballplayer. He was over 7 feet tall and was a perpetual backup behind another great light and start for UK, the big Polish stud, Woo. Oh, and neither of those guys, both over 7 feet tall, started. We started 6’7 and 6’9 in the post over them (or under them depending on your view).
That's my memory too
Estill is a fair argument. The rest were undersized guys who played with a great motor like Daniels and Hayes.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Passable, not a starter.
Allene was an imposing defensive presnce no matter how you slice it. He did gain value at UK, and I think the credit goes to coaching.
"all the way"
"Imposing defensive presence" that "did gain value".
He was 7-3 and had 40 blocks in 73 games over a three year period. In his best season (his sophmore year), he averaged 9 minutes per game, 2.8 pts and 1.9 rebs. Those stats all went down his junior year and he transferred out to Manhatten for his senior year because he couldn’t crack the lineup.
This is not what I think of as either an imposing presence or as gaining value and hope that our coaching staff doesn’t think so either.
I will have to agree to disagree
He was just a role player, but teams need that. This year, we will have 8-9 players total as it is now. We could use a warm body like that right now. Even if they never set foot on court.
"all the way"

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