The Big Blue Daily Mail -- Tax Day Edition
by Glenn Logan on Apr 15, 2010 10:04 AM EDT
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PrintFor all of you who have not yet paid Uncle Sam, get ready to write that check. Here are a few stories to get your mind off the pain:
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Andy Katz's Daily Word: Incoming tourney chair Gene Smith not in favor of expanding to 96 - ESPN
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Rivals.com College Basketball - Coaches believe tournament expansion inevitable
The only clear consensus is that we're about to learn the answers to these questions because a 96-team bracket could be coming to your office pool as soon as next season. Even the critics of expansion concede that much.
This just goes to show you that there is no good thing in the world that humanity cannot screw up.
More after the jump.
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Did you want Brandon Knight for one season? - Alligator Army
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Melick: Calipari making early signing period obsolete | al.com
Players commit to coaches and to situations. There was nothing the University of Kentucky offered to the fabulous freshman class of John Wall, DeMarcus Cousins, Eric Bledsoe, and Daniel Orton that almost any community college in the country couldn't have offered except the chance to play for Calipari.
This is an astute observation. There was a time when the school mattered more than the coach. Arguably, that time has passed.
- C.J. Leslie weighs his options - NC State - NewsObserver.com
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Brandon Knight: Kentucky gets a special kid … who plays ball too - South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com
Yet this is what colleges got, if they cared to read it. They got an English Honors III teacher raving about "Brandon's perfect articulation in reading Shakespeare," and describing "the stillness of the room as his peers listened in rapt attention" to his "Macbeth" soliloquy. They got an Advanced Placement statistics teacher recalling all the times he would stay for extra help, even it meant missing dinner before a game. They got his college counselor gushing, "A finer Pine Crest student I cannot imagine."
And this is a young man who will likely put his educational opportunity on hold before he gets a degree. Is anyone going to argue that he isn't qualified to make that choice, or that it should not be available to him?
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Beecher: Coach Self’s first strike in recruiting | Kansan.com
Coach Bill Self steps to the plate, tightens his gloves and knocks the bat against his cleats. In his own words, Self needs to hit a home run.
The first pitch comes, and Self takes a mighty hack. He whiffs on his first chance at a recruiting home run this week, losing Brandon Knight, Rivals.com’s top ranked player to Kentucky.
If you've been around Kentucky the last four or five years, stuff like this is like sweet music.
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No new Huskies on Day 1; Knight selects Kentucky The Republican-American
The late signing period began as expected Wednesday for the UConn men. They came up empty.
Fortune reverses itself.
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"We recruit the best players. But you know what the team did? They were like scouts. They sacrificed for one another. Because they did it together, they've all benefited.
" … If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together."
This is one of the most cogent defenses of Calipari's recruiting strategy I have seen. Fittingly, it comes from Coach Cal himself.
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So congrats, Kentucky. You’re riding the momentum of a fantastic recruiting streak, undoubtedly helped by the signees (who often persuade other high school stars to join them in their ivory towers).
But let’s step back — does this actually guarantee victories? Coach Cal’s recruiting hauls from last year netted the SEC Crown (barely), but their collegiate careers never lasted past the Elite Eight. Should we suppose another freshman-heavy squad (which 2010-2011 certainly smells like) should go any further?
Okay, let's step back. Does any recruiting strategy "actually guarantee victories?" Better ask Roy Williams while you're at it. He had as many highly ranked recruits as UK did. How does 17 losses sit with you? Kentucky? 3.
So maybe the answer is "yes" when we are talking about Coach Cal, who is far and away the winningest coach in college basketball over the last several years.
There are no guarantees. Calipari's system requires good players. If the good players do well, they get noticed and wind up being on draft boards. If the good players do not do well, most of them come back and try again. But as soon as good players get noticed and start appearing on draft boards, they almost always start planning their exit.
Get over it, pal. You don't know the first thing about Calipari. You are just against him. Period.
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Signing Day Open Thread - The UConn Blog
Anyway, use this thread to debate how much money John Calipari can afford to pay potential recruits, and to cry tears of sadness that Knight Fever is (probably) over.
Jealous, much?
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John Clay: UK fans are willing to settle for ... every top recruit | KentuckySports.com
Then Calipari came to town. Dominoes began falling. Expectations were lifted. Now Kentucky basketball fans don't want just one blue-chip recruit. They want all the blue-chip recruits.
Let me ask you this question -- why should we not?
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Inside Opinion - " A true student-athlete The News Tribune Blogs, Tacoma, WA
Here's the kind of story you don't hear very often: The top-rated 2010 high school basketball player in the nation could just as easily get an academic scholarship as one for athletics.
Bite your tongue. He is a likely "one and done" at Kentucky. We all know that's for the dumb kids, right?
Sorry about the excess sarcasm, folks, this is a great, short article you should read. I'm a little defensive this morning.
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Is Reebok Hitching Its Future on John Wall? - Chris Littmann - First Cuts - Sporting News
Shock No. 1: They're still giving out shoe deals worth this much? The last few years made it seem like shoe deals had really dried up. Shelling out that much for John Wall would be a big change of course. Judging from Darren Rovell's tweet, it would be risky.
I wonder how much Chuck Taylor got for having his name on Converse All-Stars?
Those were the days ...
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BBL: Brandon Knight and Michael Gilchrist links roundup John Clay’s Sidelines
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John Calipari Monopolizing Recruits | Online Basketball Betting
One way to battle a team loaded with freshmen is to build a team centered around chemistry and experience, much like Duke did this year. This article explains Coach K’s system and how he recruits. Maybe that is the way to go, but you won’t stop Calipari from taking players who plan on being around for less than a calendar year.
Sure, Coach K won yet another title, but does that mean Calipari is destined to never win one? Obviously not, as he was a miracle three by Mario Chalmers away from being on top of the college basketball world.
But that doesn't fit the narrative.
- A Pro Scout's Take on Kentucky's Patrick Patterson
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Kentucky Lands Brandon Knight - CBSSports.com Video
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ZagsBlog.com – Brandon Knight to Kentucky (UPDATED)
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DraftExpress: Mock Draft
For what it's worth. I'm skeptical.
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GAH
The Kevin Macks and Jim Nantzs of the world kill me. Nantz went on Bill Simmons’ podcast and trashed “one and done” players and specifically UK’s, calling them “mercenaries” and asking why we’d want such players. Fact is, those kids have to play ball for one year at minimum. If that is the case, I want that one plus year to be spent in Lexington. If we weren’t getting them, these same sportswriters would be decrying our descent and spilling ink about the faded glory of UK.
I feel you.
This whole rant and rave against “one and dones” is logically bankrupt. It is indefensible, and I’ve said so many times and will never let up.
I once thought as these people do, until I discovered I hadn’t really given the matter any thought at all – I had simply gone on emotion and envy. When I actually engaged my brain instead of my heart and drove out the green-eyed monster, the bankruptcy of my former position became clear as day.
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by Glenn Logan on Apr 15, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
so sayeth the ostrich.....lol.......sorry.....couldnt resist
sane and rational thought does not control this issue……emotion and historical, and even imperical thinking will…….c’mon Tru……I know how you feel…..but I put it to you that it is indeed your feelings that are getting in the way here…..how many rules are changed becuse people dont like the way someone works the existing rule……remember BCG’s early BBM??…..boom! rule change…..I too have always held that you cannot “legislate morality” but this is going to happen, and the media and the academics of the world are going to make it so….
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
You are wrong.
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by Glenn Logan on Apr 15, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont claim that it is right, but it is inevitable.....
I want all of these kids we can get here at UK……and I do not personally believe there is anything wrong with these kids coming and playing for however long they want to be here…..but the powers that be are going to get pushed on this one by everyone who gets a chance at a microphone until something is done
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
It is not inevitable.
Change is inevitable. You are trying to end a dispute by claiming something is inevitable when it isn’t.
Running around shouting “Something must be done!” really loudly does not make it inevitable.
You are, as the old saying goes, urinating into a heavy breeze.
Not a good idea, by the way. :-)
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by Glenn Logan on Apr 15, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I didnt say "something must be done"......I said
something will be done…..there is a difference…..and that heavy breeze is blowing the other direction my friend…..please dont misunderstand that I am for this, or that I condone it, but that, in and of itself, also will not prevent it from happening.
People are speaking out on this everywhere. Remember hearing people who were heavy smokers say they would leave their jobs if smoking was banned at their workplace?? Ever drive by office buildings in Lexington or Louisville in the dead of winter and see all of the people standing outside smoking in the snow???
Cal has even come out against the idea himself……..I am sorry, but when the man who runs our program, who has benefitted most by these kids being in the system, comes out and says “hey, I dont like it either”……handwriting is on the wall….no pun intended with the “wall” comment…..lol
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
You are wrong
And here’s why…
Look no further than the proposed expansion of the tournament. Everyone is opposed to it. I have yet to hear one talking head opine in favor of the move to 96 teams. (Well… except maybe Jim Boeheim.) Yet the consensus is that the change is “inevitible” to use your word. Why would this be? Well, most people seem to agree that money is the driving force behind expansion.
Now lets apply the same litmus test to the “one and done” situation. Who makes money when these kids play in college? The NCAA, the member schools, and the NBA who has an addition year to evaluate a prospect and potentially avoid a bust. Who loses out financially? Just the kid themselves who would otherwise be multi-millionaires instead of college students.
In short: Money talks. And in this case, its speaking in favor of the status quo.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
money talks unless the appearance is being given that money is talking
in lieu of morals and ethics. However wrong the perception may be, the perception is that these kids are using the NCAA as a stepping stone to a get rich quick scheme leading to the NBA. Expansion has no ill effects towards the “perception” of the integrity of collegiate athletics, this situation with the “one and dones” as everyone wants to falsely call it, does have that perception.
Anyone remember how the football rule came to be?? This very situation of kids leaving early was brought out for all to weigh in on. The NCAA said nothing about the kids making huge amounts of money too soon, or how they were not mature enough, or anything like that. They said they were protecting these kids from not being ready to leave their schools for play in the NFL. They were not “physically” ready, was one of the caveats of that move.
The NCAA is always going to take the position that they are operating in the best interests of the kids. You are right, this is about money deep down, however, the NCAA cannot side step this one. Too many people are making the discussion too public. Calipari is his own worst enemy here. He has shown that you can make things work with these kids, when all along it was thought that anyone who did, did so in spite of what should happen. Now everyone is shouting his name to the rafters, and saying he is going to ruin the integrity of the game. It is all hype and complete BS, but it is effective. I counted today, when typing in “one and done” on a search. There were 1,660,000,000 references to it on Google. And up until the last 5 years this was never discussed.
By the way, of those 1,660,000,000 hits…….more than 50,000,000 are less than 2 weeks old…..a lot of talk for something that isnt going to be a factor, dont you think?
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Rupp Had 1 & Done(s) In 1935 And 1971
LeRoy Edwards played 1 year of varsity in 1935.
Tom Payne played 1 year of varsity (and DNP as frosh) in 1971.
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 15, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what I mean Forty......it was never an issue until now.....2 in 40 years of coaching???
I wonder what Coach Rupp would have thought of this situation??
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ABC, who is it exactly that is clamoring for this change.
I like to consider myself as someone that keeps up with what is happening in the world, and I have yet to see the outrage that you describe. I have yet to see it in any major publication (newspapers or magazines) and, to my knowledge, it has not been the feature story on any network’s nightly news. The only people even talking about it are random bloggers that are read by less than one percent of this country. I have yet to hear any college president come out and demand or propose a rule change, for that matter I have not heard any athletic directors do so either. I have heard some coaches say they would like to see a change, but that is it.
If the NCAA can resist listening to over 70 percent of its basketball fans and go to a 96 team tournament, what makes you think they are worried about a few sportcasters and random bloggers?
Jim Nantz is the latest...the lead announcer of the network that covers the tourney....
the bloggers are not random…..there are several articles on ESPN….Tru even went on TV about it look I realize everyone is standing back and pointing fingers and laughing, thinking that this is just a bump in the road……but its not…..The Secretary of Educationhas come out against it, but it will not be done as I said before in an attempt to get rid of the one and done player……the NCAA will pass legislation aimed at improving grad rates with penalties for schools who dont graduate players….much stiffer and more straightforward than they have now…..
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
and penalties much stiffer for those universities who
have multiple players that fit that descrpition……
I AM THE CAT......The Cat In The Hat!!!
Calipari ...
… came out against the idea of forcing high-schoolers into college for a year. I am opposed to that as well. That’s not what we are talking about, in case you didn’t know.
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Calipari is opposed to the NBA rule
And I somewhat agree, but I think the NBA had to do something to protect themselves from themselves also. Perhaps going to a 20 year old minimum would have been a better move.
I don’t think the NCAA should (or could) do anything to address the issue beyond the continued enforcement of the academic progress issues.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
it is part and parcel Tru.....
when it all shakes out it will be a smaller part of the whole thing…..I agree with cal entirely……it is stupid……but it is what it is, and it will not last
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In regards to the Players you are absolutely right
It’s the adults who are driving the insanity
"all the way"
agreed, as well, chstrckwl.
I wouldn’t trade our one-and-doner’s for anything.
Like you said, they have to go somewhere, and I’m quite glad they chose UK instead of going overseas or to some other college for one year which were the other options afforded to them if the NBA is their eventual destination. I’m very grateful to have had them even if only for a year, and I welcome even more with open arms.
totally disagree
that UK didn’t offer anything to the freshmen beyond playing for Cal that almost any community college could match. I know of no community colleges that can offer UK’s pro-level facilities, a vast appreciative fan base that will adore you for the rest of your life, a bevy of beautiful women, and the K-Lair.
by DCBlueandWhite on Apr 15, 2010 10:45 AM EDT reply actions
that "bevy of beautiful women" might not be the best recruiting tool to use.....lol
just ask UT…….lol
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if it means we can finally beat UT next year
then I’m for it regardless.
by DCBlueandWhite on Apr 15, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL, K-Lair is the secret weapon
I worked many happy hours at the Lair back in the 70s, didn’t know it was still around.
K-Lair, yummmmm.
I lived off of their cheeseburgers, fries and fried honey-buns my freshman year.
I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.
Brings back some fond memories.......
and the big plate of fries at the Campus Corner.
For a quarter
if memory serves me.
I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.
Tax Season
Remember, if you choose not to pay your taxes, you can always spend a weekend with the Pain Monster!
3 > 2, except for very large values of 2.
I believe it is still about the program if all else is equal.
There are thousands of kids who grow up every day wanting to play for UK. They may not be the stars we want; but we have a whole plethora of kids who dream of wearing Blue. I was one of them. I’m looking for my “Hang on Joe I’m coming” t-shirt right now. Are those the guys we want? Maybe not, but if NCAA BBall becomes truly about student athletes, UK will be in fine shape. How about a Chris Lofton, Jeff Hall, Frank Lee, Tony Kimbro, Todd May, Jr VanHoose STYLE Uk team.; very competitive with a good coach. Notice I said Coach, not recruiter. If Butler can Coach em’ up, why can’t we?
"all the way"
One thing that I think we can all agree
on if nothing else in regards to recruiting, one & done’s and college b-ball in general….IT"S FRICKIN GREAT TO BE BACK IN THE DISCUSSION IN REGARD TO ALMOST ANY RECRUIT!!!!!
While I’d like to think UK’s history, our campus, our fans, our facilities, the entire UK package might have something to do with top recruits coming here……the modern day reality is that these kids are coming for Coach Cal.
There’s nothing wrong with that and I read the CJ today also Tru and agree….Cal’s speech in Louisville is the best defense or explaination I’ve seen anywhere for the current state of UK basketball.
The guy is obviously worth EVERY penny he’s being paid!!! Now let’s win a championship…..or 3!!!!;-)
You can't fix "stupid"!
I just can't jump on the
“Brandon Knight is a one-and-done” train. We’ve only seen glimpses of the whole package (mind and body) but from even this limited prospective there is no doubt he is as much a scholar as an athelete, probably more than any other recruit we’ve had in years. The combination of his intellect and the impending NBA lockout there is a very real possibility of him staying for a second year.
Just as PPat got his degree early, Knight can go through summer school classes for two summers along with two years of regular terms and reach the point where he’d only have to return for a short time to complete a degree. He and his family appear to be very focused on the education aspect and going well past half way toward a degree before going pro could well be in the cards.
Brandon's parents strike me as the "Patrick Patterson" variety.....they may well
have the final say in where and when Brandon does what he does…..
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Pat did not face being a one and done,
and if he had been played and trained by Cal in his first season, he would have been gone after his second (my opinion). I love Pat too, but, c’mon, he is not a saint. He is a guy who came back because he thought that it would help him and he wanted to enjoy himself for one season. Had he been coached correctly and had fun in his first two, he probably would not have come back.
Brandon Knight will be a one and done. He is being given the keys to a high profile team and an offense that will feature his skills. By the end of the season, he will have progressed to such a point that it will be hard to imagine five other point guards being drafted ahead of him (which would have to happen to keep him from being a first round pick). He may not be John Wall, but then again, neither was Tyreke Evans and it did not hurt his draft stock.
This is probably right.
Given Knight’s high academic profile, there is a chance that he may hang around for at least a year, and a 3-year profile like Patterson’s is not impossible.
It just isn’t very likely.
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How dare you
defile St. Pat!
I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.
Read that some around him feel he'll stay at UK at least 2 years
which obviously would be great. All these kids come from different backgrounds and there are untold factors to consider but as a Dad of 3 and two of whom have gone to UK, I think I’d want my 20 year old staying in school as long as possible no matter what kind of $ was being bantered about. Rather have my 20 year old in Blanding tower than in an NBA locker room where they’re pulling guns on each other. Easy for me to say but……
You can't fix "stupid"!
I've heard that.
It could happen. If I were you, I would not bet on it. :-)
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by Glenn Logan on Apr 15, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't bet on him staying
at least two years, but he’s MUCH more likely to stay over than other so called one-and-done players because he has the intellect and apparently the drive to feed that intellect.
maybe...
color me skeptical and nothing against the academics of UK, but he is at UK to feed the basketball side of things, not feed the intellect…however, i would agree with you on a relative basis, he is more likely to return vs. other one and dones….
i believe the lockout, or potential lockout, will have more to do with him staying or going. If a lockout looms, he might as well stay in school another year and play ball while the nba gets its act together…
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Apr 15, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Knight has been taking AP courses.......
and probably AP exams, my oldest started college with a semester worth of college credits based on AP classes and exams, and the program has expanded since then.
Knight will probably start college ...
… as an academic sophomore. This is becoming quite common among good students like him.
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Don't agree at all
that the program is not important. Definitely, you have to have a coach that can get the job done, but the program adds a ton of significance to a recruit’s decision. Else, why would Calipari have even considered coming to UK from Memphis, where he stood to make more money than they are even paying him now at UK?
Calipari knows what, evidently, a lot of people don’t understand. There are great coaches with great systems and then there are great programs, where a coach can take advantage of the perfect storm. We’ve been crying around here for years about North Carolina, Duke, Kansas and Connecticut getting all the recruits. There is something about the tradition of a program. Even Michigan State has some of that mojo, but while that alone is not enough, it is still very important to recruits.
The haters just love to insinuate, “Why would anybody want to go to Kentucky?” They don’t get it.
There is tradition here, there are great facilities and great fans here, and, now, we have a coach that GETS THAT and sells it to recruits, and it is working for him even better than what he was able to do at UMASS or Memphis, or why would he have been so eager to get here?
Some programs are built on personalities… IU maybe? Some programs are built for the long haul. Through all the ups and downs, UK stands the test for the long haul, because up or down we still love the program and that passion gets noticed by players all over the country.
by BluebloodinNaptown on Apr 15, 2010 12:37 PM EDT reply actions
I am not going to say the program is totally unimportant....
but just look at UCLA. After Wooden left, it fell off a cliff.
they (coach and program) go hand in hand, but if it really was the program, even a caveman could coach UK and win…and if it were not the coach then umass, memphis, butler, northern iowa, etal would never have a shot…
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Apr 15, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
if it was all about the program and not the coach,
We would still have Billy Clyde……
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and we would be winning...
only one rule in my house - uk has to be your favorite college bball team
by memphis wildcat on Apr 15, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Re: Wooden
Not going to create a war here, but if you Google “John Wooden & Booster” you will see there is a good chance that UCLA may not have any titles left if the NCAA had been as strict then as it is now.
hmmmmm
Provokes a thought in my mind
by 2.1 seconds left on Apr 15, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't let it provoke too much.
Kansas fans coming over here have almost universally lasted two comments before a visit to /dev/null.
If you want to talk smack, don’t come back.
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Wooden Left In 1975
UCLA returned to FF in 1976 and made NC game in 1980.
Hardly falling off a cliff.
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 15, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the Coach vs. Program debate is similar to the Country vs. President debate
As U.S. citizens, we understand and appreciate (parts of) our culture, history, and values. We (mostly) respect our President and (largely) recognize that he is the leader of the country.
To those in other countries, our President = our country to a large extent, and the people of those countries recognize our President to a greater degree than they understand our culture, history, and values. That’s true now, and is only supported by the fact that those in other nations cheered when W’s term was over, because they perceived that with a new President would come a palpable shift in our foriegn policy. To us as Americans, new Presidents bring great change (or at least the expectation of it), but the United States persists.
The Big Blue Faithful understand UK’s culture, history, and achievements, and respect our coach. To those outside the BBN, UK = John Calipari and vice versa. To those on the outside, UK with Calipari is not the same as UK with Gillispie or UK with Tubby. To us, it’s always UK. Sure, there are great chanhes from coach to coach, but UK remains constant.
I really just depends on your perspective.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
--O.W.
True, But Consider This:
In recruiting the only perspective that counts (parents and advisors to a lesser amount) is that of a 17-18 year old and there it’s (except perhaps with a Commonwealth recruit) Calipari and not UK.
"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek
Don't kid yourself
These kids aren’t just playing to the choir when they talk about the atmosphere here. When our coach is winning and sending players to the next level, our atmosphere gives us a decided edge, just like the rest of the upper echelon of the basketball world.
Coach Cal knew that combining his talent with the tradition and passion of the UK faithful would propel him to even higher things, because our fan base, built by our tradition, is an edge—just listen to our team from this year… “the fans” are never far from their comments and that just reveals the extent of our program.
by BluebloodinNaptown on Apr 15, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
UK With Tubby Was Nowhere Near The Same As UK With Gillispie
76% overall and 72% in NCAA games under Tubby.
60% overall and 0% in NCAA games under Gillispie.
Hardly similar.
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 15, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't believe I said that the program isn't important.
I said the coaches are becoming more important.
There is a big difference.
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Going pro
While it doesn’t seem to happen as much as it did in the 70’s and 80’s, there have often been tennis players and golfers (fewer of these) who “go pro” when they are teenagers. No one ever seems to be upset about that. My gut tells me some of the difference is perhaps rooted in socio-economic biases, but that a much greater part of it deals with the fact that tennis is not a profit-making, high-spectator-appeal college sport. Just for thought . . .
by olddoc on Apr 15, 2010 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Another good point
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Taxes?
I ain’t paying no stinkin’ taxes!
BTW, if you haven’t converted your regular IRA and other tax-deferred retirement accounts into Roth IRA’s you’re missing a great opportunity and the $100,000 limit doesn’t apply in 2010 for the first time. You’ll appreciate it in the high-tax years to come and your children will enjoy the benefits for the rest of their lives. Look into it.
"Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom" - Hayek
47% Of People Pay $0 Income Taxes
The other 53% of us pay 100% of the tax bill.
by FortyYearCatFan on Apr 15, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like
the middle class is shrinking fast. Can’t blame young basketball players for wanting to get their piece of the pie while they can.
I woke up feeling BLUE this morning. It's gonna be a great day.
The middle class isn't shrinking.
We have used tax “credits” to convert middle class people into non-tax payers.
No one should get a free ride. There is no such thing.
by non-tax payers, I mean non-"income tax" payers.
And that is, frankly, enough. 50% of the people should pay nothing towards income tax.
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